"Personally, I'll pay Microsoft their money."
By which you mean "the money they owe to the countless poeple owning the patents they've infringed to get thus far"...
Not that GPL has any merit...
Oracle is only competing with patches as far as the core system and Oracle are concerned. When Gimp, XMMS, or the like are patched for RedHat I doubt Unbreakable will bother to distribute the patches: they're irrelevant to a server running *NIX/Oracle. RedHat has a much much wider scope than just DB servers, so while a particular part of its market share may get stepped on by Unbreakable, the whole is certainly not affected uniformly.
"If you didn't have support for your USB keyboard or mouse you had non-standard components. Albeit rare, some are out there. "
And yet, if it works in Linux and not Windows, Linux still deserves praise for hardware compatibility, which it gets a TOTALLY undeserved bum rap for. Heaven forbid Linux support something that's non-standard and actually freely document it, as opposed to the myriad Windows drivers that are completely non-standard and non-open, which people have to reverse-engineer(ATI, anyone?)
Nobody with a mildly informed opinion has a right to bash Linux's hardware support. Bring it. Try.
Oh, for bonus fun:
"The issues described in his posting are demonstrative of a lack of experience and/or prioritization."
I.E. You haven't experienced the same thing (or aren't willing to admit it), therefore it obviously has to be false. I hear the same thing from Microsoft guys that haven't even attempted Open Source alternatives all the time. Move along...
Because in the Internet world, market share == money. One metric for market share (and informed, interested users) is downloads within the first few days of a release. They measure a band's popularity in the same way: a record company will decide how much financial backing and marketting a band gets by how many CD's they sell within week one of an album's release.
Ask a local university to develop a product for you as a team senior design project. You can reserve the rights to the final product and everything. I know: 4 other seniors and I are developing a product for a nearby company absolutely free, and it ticks us right off.
Not sure, man. All of my friends on facebook have stopped using it because of said changes. I've had all sorts of people from nowhere I know add me, too. I'm tempted to say "screw Facebook" myself.
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror knowing that I was contributing to the success of a company that has shown such poor ethical and legal practices as Microsoft. I've always wanted to make a difference, and no matter how convenient or lucrative the other options, I hope I'll always choose to make a good difference, and consider all the other factors as secondary.
This is a bit OT, but I don't understand why people would abandon a filesystem whose creator is suspected of murder, but they're totally cool with a filesystem whose creator is convicted of multiple patent infringements, false testimonies in court, and anticompetetive business practices.
I think what presents a threat to Microsoft is when the programs people use on Windows are available everywhere else. That allows for a seamless transition away from Windows and the entire Microsoft suite. So when users can't find their pretty fox-setting-the-world-on-fire-with-its-tail button, they don't feel as comfortable: it's just one more thing that's "different." What's more, not being geeks, they won't know that IceWeasel == Firefox. All it takes is one idiot saying "Iceweasel isn't as good as Firefox..." and tons will just believe them.
Sending clear market signals and extensive branding are vital to success with the "unwashed masses." That's a big reason Microsoft's been winning for so long in the first place. I mean let's face it - it was NOT because they had the best product.
There's a bit more to it than interface philosophy. There are legal and performance and portability issues.
Then, we have the portability to Win32 or Mac OSX, which is handled differently between Gtk and Qt. Widget drawing under Windows and OSX is handled very differently between the two. Yet another very technical difference.
So unifying them is a bit more difficult than deciding whether or not to display advanced options.
I'd mod you up in a second if I had mod points. Yes, it should. If it isn't, perhaps one should divert the money spent on glossing over its insufficiencies to RnD to actually solve them.
They already are obfuscating the c++ stuff. Use Visual Studio 2k(3 or 5) and you'll notice that the last update to any of their documentation was.net only.
Microsoft, Apple, all these commercial companies have billions to throw at marketting to make sure people know about their new! shiny! product, and OSS has very little monetary resources to compete.
I see grassroots activity (read: you and I) as a necessary counterforce in the market to ensure a level playing ground. For example: a vast amount of people that use IE use it because they don't know about the existence of other browsers nor care.
The other day a guy was showing me this new! shiny! system by which you could actually run a Windows application on another machine, and just get its interface on the local machine. When I told him that's been built into the X Window system for decades, he snapped "well nobody wants to run sh*tty linux apps anyway." Not only was he unaware of this powerful feature of X, he's also unaware of the host of great Linux apps that he probably would want to run, had he known about them...
I don't know about that. A few other Computer Science students on my campus needed to use *nix to get some assignments done, and came to me for advice on how to install it. I pointed them at Ubuntu or Freespire, and every single one gave me calls saying "I can't believe it! It just... works, out of the box! Network, Sound, 3D, everything...."
"The EU is more concerned about the impact this will have on MS competitors than they are concerned with the impact of a typical EU citizen."
By which you mean the immediate impact on the typical EU citizen? Because long term, the consequences of a monopoly are much much worse than a little hassle over choosing an antivirus.
but I'd use them revising my resume. A software company that doesn't understand that the users come first is missing something fundimentally important in their paradigm.
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"Personally, I'll pay Microsoft their money." By which you mean "the money they owe to the countless poeple owning the patents they've infringed to get thus far"... Not that GPL has any merit...
Mmmmm.... apt-get update, apt-get upgrade. Free :-) Though I have to admit yours only costs $500...
Oracle is only competing with patches as far as the core system and Oracle are concerned. When Gimp, XMMS, or the like are patched for RedHat I doubt Unbreakable will bother to distribute the patches: they're irrelevant to a server running *NIX/Oracle. RedHat has a much much wider scope than just DB servers, so while a particular part of its market share may get stepped on by Unbreakable, the whole is certainly not affected uniformly.
"If you didn't have support for your USB keyboard or mouse you had non-standard components. Albeit rare, some are out there. "
And yet, if it works in Linux and not Windows, Linux still deserves praise for hardware compatibility, which it gets a TOTALLY undeserved bum rap for. Heaven forbid Linux support something that's non-standard and actually freely document it, as opposed to the myriad Windows drivers that are completely non-standard and non-open, which people have to reverse-engineer(ATI, anyone?)
Nobody with a mildly informed opinion has a right to bash Linux's hardware support. Bring it. Try.
Oh, for bonus fun:
"The issues described in his posting are demonstrative of a lack of experience and/or prioritization."
I.E. You haven't experienced the same thing (or aren't willing to admit it), therefore it obviously has to be false. I hear the same thing from Microsoft guys that haven't even attempted Open Source alternatives all the time. Move along...
Because in the Internet world, market share == money. One metric for market share (and informed, interested users) is downloads within the first few days of a release. They measure a band's popularity in the same way: a record company will decide how much financial backing and marketting a band gets by how many CD's they sell within week one of an album's release.
Ask a local university to develop a product for you as a team senior design project. You can reserve the rights to the final product and everything. I know: 4 other seniors and I are developing a product for a nearby company absolutely free, and it ticks us right off.
That is, until we have holographic displays.
Not sure, man. All of my friends on facebook have stopped using it because of said changes. I've had all sorts of people from nowhere I know add me, too. I'm tempted to say "screw Facebook" myself.
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror knowing that I was contributing to the success of a company that has shown such poor ethical and legal practices as Microsoft. I've always wanted to make a difference, and no matter how convenient or lucrative the other options, I hope I'll always choose to make a good difference, and consider all the other factors as secondary.
This is a bit OT, but I don't understand why people would abandon a filesystem whose creator is suspected of murder, but they're totally cool with a filesystem whose creator is convicted of multiple patent infringements, false testimonies in court, and anticompetetive business practices.
What about SELinux? Its purpose is to define what such applications can and can't get away with.
They have to - it's GPL.
I think what presents a threat to Microsoft is when the programs people use on Windows are available everywhere else. That allows for a seamless transition away from Windows and the entire Microsoft suite. So when users can't find their pretty fox-setting-the-world-on-fire-with-its-tail button, they don't feel as comfortable: it's just one more thing that's "different." What's more, not being geeks, they won't know that IceWeasel == Firefox. All it takes is one idiot saying "Iceweasel isn't as good as Firefox..." and tons will just believe them.
Sending clear market signals and extensive branding are vital to success with the "unwashed masses." That's a big reason Microsoft's been winning for so long in the first place. I mean let's face it - it was NOT because they had the best product.
The parent, while funny, is way too right. Makes me sad.
There's a bit more to it than interface philosophy. There are legal and performance and portability issues.
Then, we have the portability to Win32 or Mac OSX, which is handled differently between Gtk and Qt. Widget drawing under Windows and OSX is handled very differently between the two. Yet another very technical difference.
So unifying them is a bit more difficult than deciding whether or not to display advanced options.
They should hire him :-)
I'd mod you up in a second if I had mod points. Yes, it should. If it isn't, perhaps one should divert the money spent on glossing over its insufficiencies to RnD to actually solve them.
Hi everyone, my name is Jon, I'm 24, and I have a "wild eyed old coot" problem.
They already are obfuscating the c++ stuff. Use Visual Studio 2k(3 or 5) and you'll notice that the last update to any of their documentation was .net only.
Microsoft, Apple, all these commercial companies have billions to throw at marketting to make sure people know about their new! shiny! product, and OSS has very little monetary resources to compete.
I see grassroots activity (read: you and I) as a necessary counterforce in the market to ensure a level playing ground. For example: a vast amount of people that use IE use it because they don't know about the existence of other browsers nor care.
The other day a guy was showing me this new! shiny! system by which you could actually run a Windows application on another machine, and just get its interface on the local machine. When I told him that's been built into the X Window system for decades, he snapped "well nobody wants to run sh*tty linux apps anyway." Not only was he unaware of this powerful feature of X, he's also unaware of the host of great Linux apps that he probably would want to run, had he known about them...
I don't know about that. A few other Computer Science students on my campus needed to use *nix to get some assignments done, and came to me for advice on how to install it. I pointed them at Ubuntu or Freespire, and every single one gave me calls saying "I can't believe it! It just... works, out of the box! Network, Sound, 3D, everything...."
Take it for what it's worth.
Did! Arrives in 3 days. Can't wait :-)
I can recommend crossover office. I've tried it, and was very pleased with the results.
"The EU is more concerned about the impact this will have on MS competitors than they are concerned with the impact of a typical EU citizen."
By which you mean the immediate impact on the typical EU citizen? Because long term, the consequences of a monopoly are much much worse than a little hassle over choosing an antivirus.
but I'd use them revising my resume. A software company that doesn't understand that the users come first is missing something fundimentally important in their paradigm.