You've got to admit that the circumstances of the 9/11 incident were fairly suspicious. A few days prior to the attack they had an evacuation drill in the towers that was out of the ordinary, the attack occurred during a time of day when most of the people who worked in the towers were not in the building, another building that was not struck by a plane collapsed, and the buildings collapsed in a way that was consistent with the way that buildings collapsed during controlled demolitions when there are explosives planted on each floor at key structural points.
I would seriously not be surprised if the Bush family helped the terrorists co-ordinate their attack in order to create a pretense for war that would allow them to tighten the federal government's hold on national security and drive oil prices through the roof.
Roads/Schools/Libraries are classified as public goods, which the free market does not allocate very efficiently. That's why we use taxes to pay for them and provide them for everyone. I think the parent understands that they aren't "free" in the sense that you mean.
Go take an introductory macroeconomics class and then get back to us when you're slightly more educated. We really don't have the time or patience to deal with you until then.
Yeah, but Israel is smart enough not to just accept information from any jackass who comes along out of the blue to offer it to them. What if the person approaching them with information was sent by the CIA as a double-agent in order to assess whether or not Israel really is spying on us? Better to play it safe with such an individual and turn them in to U.S. authorities, gather whatever intelligence they can from legitimate sources, and if they plant any agents, make sure they're people groomed by Israel's intelligence forces, not just some random jackass who comes along offering some intel who could just be a CIA plant.
Way to make a bunch of idiotic assumptions based on the article summary. The technology allows the local admin to configure the banned words; they aren't configured by Canon.
I just felt like dropping by to remind you that you're a total moron. There are lots of reasons that you're a moron, but I don't really feel like enumerating all of them, as it is rather late in the evening.
You said it man. Every time I hear about a would-be spy trying to sell U.S. Gov't or Corporate secrets to contacts in Israel, I just shake my head. Don't these people realize that Israel is a close ally who wouldn't risk losing our assistance by engaging in espionage against us? Israel has enemies that they are more worried about, their intelligence services are too busy dealing with that to even think about messing with the U.S. -- If you're going to try to sell U.S. secrets, at least sell them to someone who actually doesn't like us or isn't afraid to spy on us, like China or Russia respectively.
Gold is useful if the currency of your country collapses in value prior to your purchase and the world economy is still strong enough to buy your gold.
Economic collapse is not an all-or-nothing event, sometimes the economy in a limited number of countries collapses. An example of this would be Argentina in 1999.
Oh god shut the fuck up. He's right, Anonymous is unpredictable. What the hell part of his post made you think that he gives a fuck what Anonymous does, or that he was in the least bit annoyed? He is annoyed with YOU morons who seem to think that Anonymous is some sort of "organization." It isn't, it's just a flash mob.
"Shameless abuse of/b/ as his personal army" is a reference to a meme on 4chan. People come to the board with requests often, like "harass this guy because I don't like him" and so on. The standard response to these requests (if they don't sound like fun) is to say "/b/ is not your personal army."
4chan is just an Internet Amusement Machine. Anonymous does whatever amuses it.
Sometimes that involves posting pictures of dead cats or trolling 11-year old internet girls who show their boobs on tinychat (see Jessica Slaughter), sometimes that involves wishing an old man a happy birthday or organizing anti-Scientology protests.
I have personally seen Anonymous engage in some unusual behavior. For example, someone recently was asking Anonymous on/b/ to troll a high school kid because his Mom had just died and he was homosexual. Anonymous decided that would be a dick thing to do and decided that it would be more fun to troll the person making the request. Anonymous immediately set about trying ascertain the identity of the troll so that they could harass him.
Anonymous is unpredictable. There is no central organization and there are no rules. Anonymous just does whatever it thinks might be fun at the moment.
Your statement piqued my curiosity but 5 minutes of searching on Google revealed nothing. What are these anti-romance laws? Can you describe them or offer a link? Thanks!
I think the parent had a good point that he expressed poorly.
Basically, while most of us will never experience a terrorist attack, we may experience a home invasion, carjacking, bank robbery, kidnapping, or any other number of hostile actions that are perpetrated against innocents all around the world every day.
Being able to ask yourself, "how would an assailant plan a crime against me?" is a useful skill as it will naturally lead one to think of ways that they could defend themselves against the crime.
Furthermore, this sort of project may inspire some students to pursue a career in counter-terrorism. Inspiring children is one of the primary goals of education. Most of us won't go on to be doctors or engineers either, but that doesn't mean we should start cutting our biology and physics programs.
It's also academics, geeks, skilled computer users, video gamers, social scientists, and many others.
Get over yourself, go find some newer engineering trade rag and rant forum where you can have a circle-jerk with the rest of your anti-social, depressed, misanthropic engineering and information technology buddies, if you can't handle the fucking idea that this is not your personal holy ground and anyone can read the articles and comment on them. Seriously, you people piss me off, get lost.
You're an idiot for thinking he buys into it. He never indicated that he did, or even that it bothered him. He merely suggested that whoever wrote the article or article summary has a marketing agenda that may involve making people "feel" that an iPad costs more by quoting it at $500 instead of $499.
Like you, he understands that the "99" gimmick is just that, a marketing gimmick, a not-so-subtle attempt to make something seem cheaper when it isn't. By deliberately not using this gimmick, the author may be trying to achieve the OPPOSITE effect.
I wouldn't have called you an idiot, but you deserved it for calling him one.
I agree that more transparency of our government's actions would be nice. I also wish war would end altogether, and I don't like the war we're in now.
That said, sometimes secrets are valuable. Even information that doesn't show evidence of a crime could be "damning." For example, someone could send the blueprints to one of our combat helicopters to Wikileaks. Release this information would only serve to allow foreign governments the opportunity to learn how to duplicate or sabotage our helicopters. Setting up a honey pot to ferret out soldiers and intelligence operatives who would be willing to release this sort of information could be a valuable counter-intelligence maneuver.
I highly doubt that Wikileaks is a honey pot, but I simply wanted to engage in the mental exercise of considering the possibilities. For the most part, I wish war would simply stop, but until it does, I understand the need to keep some things secret. However, I only want to keep things like vehicle blueprints, attack plans, and troop positions secret. Unlawful imprisonment, illegal torture, execution of unarmed civilians -- these things shouldn't be happening anyway so I hope that if they are, they're brought to light ASAP.
Maybe Wikileaks is collaborating with U.S. counter-intelligence. The strategy? Instruct Wikileaks to post a lot of legitimate, apparently sensitive military documents that are ultimately irrelevant to OpSec. Make a giant fiasco in the press about it, demanding that Wikileaks remove the offending documents. Now that people believe Wikileaks is a safe source to report their knowledge to, and to offload sensitive military documents, they will do so. These people can then be identified and thrown into military, CIA or FBI lockup with no formal charges filed against them.
No, he has a point. Yes, that isn't the only reason they don't want people reading the documents on Wikileaks. However, there are plenty of personnel who DO have the security clearances to view some of the documents in the set, and those people would be entirely within their right to view those documents. Viewing them on the Wikileaks server could raise the security issues proposed by the OP.
I think the OP's post was pretty insightful. "Games" likely had nothing to do with it.
That security clearance does not mean access. Even if someone has security clearance, they still need a reason to access something. Intelligence information is kept on a strictly need-to-know basis and your line of reasoning is completely bogus.
Wait. I was responding to Causality, not you, but you're replying to me as if you are the one who wrote the post I responded to.
Are you suggesting, perhaps by forgetting to change user handles, that you actually troll Slashdot with several different identities, and then have long-winded conversations with yourself?
You are about ten kinds of crazy and I'm not even about to get sucked into some time-wasting moral debate with you.
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You've got to admit that the circumstances of the 9/11 incident were fairly suspicious. A few days prior to the attack they had an evacuation drill in the towers that was out of the ordinary, the attack occurred during a time of day when most of the people who worked in the towers were not in the building, another building that was not struck by a plane collapsed, and the buildings collapsed in a way that was consistent with the way that buildings collapsed during controlled demolitions when there are explosives planted on each floor at key structural points.
I would seriously not be surprised if the Bush family helped the terrorists co-ordinate their attack in order to create a pretense for war that would allow them to tighten the federal government's hold on national security and drive oil prices through the roof.
Mod Point. That was brilliantly argued and said, friend. If I happen to get mod points soon, I'll come back and mod you up.
Roads/Schools/Libraries are classified as public goods, which the free market does not allocate very efficiently. That's why we use taxes to pay for them and provide them for everyone. I think the parent understands that they aren't "free" in the sense that you mean.
Go take an introductory macroeconomics class and then get back to us when you're slightly more educated. We really don't have the time or patience to deal with you until then.
Yeah, but Israel is smart enough not to just accept information from any jackass who comes along out of the blue to offer it to them. What if the person approaching them with information was sent by the CIA as a double-agent in order to assess whether or not Israel really is spying on us? Better to play it safe with such an individual and turn them in to U.S. authorities, gather whatever intelligence they can from legitimate sources, and if they plant any agents, make sure they're people groomed by Israel's intelligence forces, not just some random jackass who comes along offering some intel who could just be a CIA plant.
Way to make a bunch of idiotic assumptions based on the article summary. The technology allows the local admin to configure the banned words; they aren't configured by Canon.
I just felt like dropping by to remind you that you're a total moron. There are lots of reasons that you're a moron, but I don't really feel like enumerating all of them, as it is rather late in the evening.
You said it man. Every time I hear about a would-be spy trying to sell U.S. Gov't or Corporate secrets to contacts in Israel, I just shake my head. Don't these people realize that Israel is a close ally who wouldn't risk losing our assistance by engaging in espionage against us? Israel has enemies that they are more worried about, their intelligence services are too busy dealing with that to even think about messing with the U.S. -- If you're going to try to sell U.S. secrets, at least sell them to someone who actually doesn't like us or isn't afraid to spy on us, like China or Russia respectively.
I meant to say, if the currency collapses AFTER your purchase, not before it. But you probably knew that.
Gold is useful if the currency of your country collapses in value prior to your purchase and the world economy is still strong enough to buy your gold.
Economic collapse is not an all-or-nothing event, sometimes the economy in a limited number of countries collapses. An example of this would be Argentina in 1999.
Oh god shut the fuck up. He's right, Anonymous is unpredictable. What the hell part of his post made you think that he gives a fuck what Anonymous does, or that he was in the least bit annoyed? He is annoyed with YOU morons who seem to think that Anonymous is some sort of "organization." It isn't, it's just a flash mob.
"Shameless abuse of /b/ as his personal army" is a reference to a meme on 4chan. People come to the board with requests often, like "harass this guy because I don't like him" and so on. The standard response to these requests (if they don't sound like fun) is to say "/b/ is not your personal army."
Now kindly pull the stick out of your ass.
4chan is just an Internet Amusement Machine. Anonymous does whatever amuses it.
Sometimes that involves posting pictures of dead cats or trolling 11-year old internet girls who show their boobs on tinychat (see Jessica Slaughter), sometimes that involves wishing an old man a happy birthday or organizing anti-Scientology protests.
I have personally seen Anonymous engage in some unusual behavior. For example, someone recently was asking Anonymous on /b/ to troll a high school kid because his Mom had just died and he was homosexual. Anonymous decided that would be a dick thing to do and decided that it would be more fun to troll the person making the request. Anonymous immediately set about trying ascertain the identity of the troll so that they could harass him.
Anonymous is unpredictable. There is no central organization and there are no rules. Anonymous just does whatever it thinks might be fun at the moment.
Your statement piqued my curiosity but 5 minutes of searching on Google revealed nothing. What are these anti-romance laws? Can you describe them or offer a link? Thanks!
Maybe the student who aces the assignment would be a prime candidate for recruitment into his or her country's counter-terrorism agency.
Part of preparing to defend against an attack involves considering how the attackers might plan their operation ...
I think the parent had a good point that he expressed poorly.
Basically, while most of us will never experience a terrorist attack, we may experience a home invasion, carjacking, bank robbery, kidnapping, or any other number of hostile actions that are perpetrated against innocents all around the world every day.
Being able to ask yourself, "how would an assailant plan a crime against me?" is a useful skill as it will naturally lead one to think of ways that they could defend themselves against the crime.
Furthermore, this sort of project may inspire some students to pursue a career in counter-terrorism. Inspiring children is one of the primary goals of education. Most of us won't go on to be doctors or engineers either, but that doesn't mean we should start cutting our biology and physics programs.
It's also academics, geeks, skilled computer users, video gamers, social scientists, and many others.
Get over yourself, go find some newer engineering trade rag and rant forum where you can have a circle-jerk with the rest of your anti-social, depressed, misanthropic engineering and information technology buddies, if you can't handle the fucking idea that this is not your personal holy ground and anyone can read the articles and comment on them. Seriously, you people piss me off, get lost.
Maybe he thought you were talking about the judge because there is no lawyer. The plaintiff is representing himself.
Don't throw rocks in glass houses, dude.
You're an idiot for thinking he buys into it. He never indicated that he did, or even that it bothered him. He merely suggested that whoever wrote the article or article summary has a marketing agenda that may involve making people "feel" that an iPad costs more by quoting it at $500 instead of $499.
Like you, he understands that the "99" gimmick is just that, a marketing gimmick, a not-so-subtle attempt to make something seem cheaper when it isn't. By deliberately not using this gimmick, the author may be trying to achieve the OPPOSITE effect.
I wouldn't have called you an idiot, but you deserved it for calling him one.
I agree that more transparency of our government's actions would be nice. I also wish war would end altogether, and I don't like the war we're in now.
That said, sometimes secrets are valuable. Even information that doesn't show evidence of a crime could be "damning." For example, someone could send the blueprints to one of our combat helicopters to Wikileaks. Release this information would only serve to allow foreign governments the opportunity to learn how to duplicate or sabotage our helicopters. Setting up a honey pot to ferret out soldiers and intelligence operatives who would be willing to release this sort of information could be a valuable counter-intelligence maneuver.
I highly doubt that Wikileaks is a honey pot, but I simply wanted to engage in the mental exercise of considering the possibilities. For the most part, I wish war would simply stop, but until it does, I understand the need to keep some things secret. However, I only want to keep things like vehicle blueprints, attack plans, and troop positions secret. Unlawful imprisonment, illegal torture, execution of unarmed civilians -- these things shouldn't be happening anyway so I hope that if they are, they're brought to light ASAP.
Maybe Wikileaks is collaborating with U.S. counter-intelligence. The strategy? Instruct Wikileaks to post a lot of legitimate, apparently sensitive military documents that are ultimately irrelevant to OpSec. Make a giant fiasco in the press about it, demanding that Wikileaks remove the offending documents. Now that people believe Wikileaks is a safe source to report their knowledge to, and to offload sensitive military documents, they will do so. These people can then be identified and thrown into military, CIA or FBI lockup with no formal charges filed against them.
No, he has a point. Yes, that isn't the only reason they don't want people reading the documents on Wikileaks. However, there are plenty of personnel who DO have the security clearances to view some of the documents in the set, and those people would be entirely within their right to view those documents. Viewing them on the Wikileaks server could raise the security issues proposed by the OP.
I think the OP's post was pretty insightful. "Games" likely had nothing to do with it.
That security clearance does not mean access. Even if someone has security clearance, they still need a reason to access something. Intelligence information is kept on a strictly need-to-know basis and your line of reasoning is completely bogus.
You think the President is responsible for the recession? Get a grip, moron.
Wait. I was responding to Causality, not you, but you're replying to me as if you are the one who wrote the post I responded to.
Are you suggesting, perhaps by forgetting to change user handles, that you actually troll Slashdot with several different identities, and then have long-winded conversations with yourself?
You are about ten kinds of crazy and I'm not even about to get sucked into some time-wasting moral debate with you.