This OpenGL thing seems like a step in that direction.
I was wondering this morning if MS will start to ship DirectX for XBOX only - what a way to shift the PC games market over to XBOX!
I mean, they may not do it outright, but they could start to ship new versions of DX on the XDK, months before the PC version, making the XBOX more attractive for developers. Then they could drop it all together, or at least the super-advanced features.
Its not like 90% of the apps on PC need hardware pixel shaders right?
Could someone post them for the new iBook or PowerMac? Yeah *NIX, sexy UI, long battery life is all great, but what about good ol' fashioned gaming performance?
4 years of development does sound bad when you consider a "commercial vendor" who has waited "until 3.x to begin getting things right" now has approximately 80% of the browser share.
How is it an "unfair free ride" ?
The memory is being used, sure, but its being used more efficiently - how is that "unfair"?
No one in their right mind would compare the memory usage of an app that uses a lot of its own libs ( like Netscape ) to something that uses a lot of pre-installed, system libs: eg IE, Explorer, Office.
Windows dlls are not fully PIC (position
independent code) so they are smaller than an
equavalent unix one...
Errr...not sure where you got that one. Win Dlls have been in common use for much longer than shared libs in most unixes. Maybe you're thinking of vbx's on Win16?
I'm curious about this, got a link to some info you wanna share?
You don't know how much IE5 is using because so much of it is built into the OS and executed on bootup.
They're called "dll's" and the cool thing about them is they actually save memory by being shared with other applications.
Why would you count memory usage of code that exists in one place in memory and is shared by several other apps?
Judging from the time demo that was shown I'd guess that the card was hitting around 50-60 FPS at 1600x1400 as well as 1024x768 with 4 sample AA, but that's only an estimate.
Folks, this is an estimate. There are no hard facts in here at all - the framerate could have been half this for all we know. The author didn't even see the actual scores. And where are the benchmarks showing it beating a GeForce2?
Jeez, give us something at least a few facts to argue about next time.
"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't touch it! But I predict that within 100 years computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." From "Much Apu About Nothing" ( Season 7 )
Folks, there are two different arguments going on here.
1) Windows itself is a buggy and unstable platform with bad API's. 2) Programming tools on Linux are easy/harder/more productive than under Windows (with tools like Visual Studio)
I agree with #1, however as user of Visual Studio for several years I'd say that Windows wins #2.
I've never used a more helpful and intuitive coding environment. Once you use Intellisense its hard to remember how you worked without it. Just try coding without syntax highlighting and you kind of get the picture. "Edit and Continue" make it an absolute joy to debug.
If you are a little careful it's easy to write portable code under Visual Studio, and Win2k is suprisingly stable.
That said, there's something beautifully pure about using makefiles and debugging with GDB, and its good for your soul to take control on a low level now and then. For me, its kinda like camping in the woods for a few days. Some peope like camping a lot, others don't...
Microsoft has its own gaming department, but they realized years ago that it sucked the big one. ( Any one remember Fury3? ).
Hence they've been buying developers ( & keeping them independent), then releasing games under the "Microsoft" label: in the lame attempt to fool the world that they can do hip & edgy stuff as well as patches for Office.
I could be wrong, but I think Terminal Reality Inc was the first game company to be bought out by Microsoft, way back in 95....
That's a pretty "sad" place to nuke, given that people actually lived there and have since become dispossesed and radiation sick thanks to the good ol' US Government. Cheers, j.
Did you just make that up?
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Excellent work. You've obviously been listening to waaaaay too many Xmas carols:)
Dynamic pages don't exist until you click on them in your browser either. Search engines *will* follow links to dynamically generated pages.
The point is there has to be a link there in the first place. Crawlers will not be able to index a dynamic page if it is only accessable through a "form" post.
The way you can get around this is to have a hidden (to users) page on your site with hardcoded (or database generated) links into the dynamic content that you'd like visible from search engines.
For example, if you have a whole heap of news articles on your site, with one per page, you can make a dynamic page called "newslinks" which, when generated by a crawler, querys the database and writes links to every news article in the site.
Dynamic pages don't exist until you click on them in your browser either. Search engines *will* follow links to dynamically generated pages.
The point is there has to be a link there in the first place. They will not be able to index a dynamic page if it is only accessable through a "form" post.
The way you can get around this is to have a hidden (to users) page on your site with hardcoded (or database generated) links into the dynamic content that you'd like visible from search engines.
For example, if you have a whole heap of news articles on your site, with one per page, you can make a dynamic page called "newslinks" which, when generated by a crawler, querys the database and writes links to every news article in the site.
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Thats why they quit the OpenGL ARB.
Clearly they have seen they way of the future and intend to devote all their energies to it!
Arcades? Give me strength! Who goes to an arcade anymore?
j.
This OpenGL thing seems like a step in that direction.
I was wondering this morning if MS will start to ship DirectX for XBOX only - what a way to shift the PC games market over to XBOX!
I mean, they may not do it outright, but they could start to ship new versions of DX on the XDK, months before the PC version, making the XBOX more attractive for developers. Then they could drop it all together, or at least the super-advanced features.
Its not like 90% of the apps on PC need hardware pixel shaders right?
Just a thought.
Good work on the port(s).
Before the Intel/AMD fanboys go crazy. I wanted to get a few questions in:
1. Can you tell us what specific optimizations you have done/are planning to do for the 64 bit architecture?
2. What optimization benefit do get from a straight "re-compile" of the UT codebase in 64 bit mode?
cheers,
j.
But the logo has magenta in it. What else do you need?
Sheesh.
Justin.
Could someone post them for the new iBook or PowerMac?
Yeah *NIX, sexy UI, long battery life is all great, but what about good ol' fashioned gaming performance?
"some ludicrous number of people watched some team beat the other team."
What an attitude!
And how many billions of people from all nations are involved in that other sporting event called "The World Series"....
Justin
set troll = 1
And BTW, its called football, because its game involving feet and balls.
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4 years of development does sound bad when you consider a "commercial vendor" who has waited "until 3.x to begin getting things right" now has approximately 80% of the browser share.
Horrible but true.
Nothing more than what a 4 dollar price per stock ( down from 50 ) says for itself.
Its on the second page.
Cheers,
Justin.
The memory is being used, sure, but its being used more efficiently - how is that "unfair"?
No one in their right mind would compare the memory usage of an app that uses a lot of its own libs ( like Netscape ) to something that uses a lot of pre-installed, system libs: eg IE, Explorer, Office.
Cheers,
Justin.
I'm curious about this, got a link to some info you wanna share?
Cheers,
Justin
They're called "dll's" and the cool thing about them is they actually save memory by being shared with other applications.
Why would you count memory usage of code that exists in one place in memory and is shared by several other apps?
Cheers,
Justin.
I'm going nuts waiting for the new PowerBook.
Does anyone who went to the Expo know if Mr Jobs mentioned them? Or is he going to ?
Cheers,
Justin.
Jeez, give us something at least a few facts to argue about next time.
Cheers,
Justin
Why? What are they going to do for me? Some how force the "evil" NVidia company to open their source and make the world a better place?
C'mon, 3dfx did the same thing to NVidia back in 1998 with multitexuring. Having Open Source drivers don't make them saints.
Cheers,
Justin
Just like 3dfx was, back in 1998 when they tried to sue NVidia over multitexturing.
And just like SGI & S3 who both sued NVidia for patent violations.
Won't anyone consider the fact NVidia may be right?
Cheers,
Justin
and finally... the cube!
Sigh. If only it were black.
Cheers,
Justin.
From "Much Apu About Nothing" ( Season 7 )
See "The Definitive Frink"
cheers,
j.
And what about Slashdot for linking to Wired?
When does the buck stop?
cheers,
Justin.
1) Windows itself is a buggy and unstable platform with bad API's.
2) Programming tools on Linux are easy/harder/more productive than under Windows (with tools like Visual Studio)
I agree with #1, however as user of Visual Studio for several years I'd say that Windows wins #2.
I've never used a more helpful and intuitive coding environment. Once you use Intellisense its hard to remember how you worked without it. Just try coding without syntax highlighting and you kind of get the picture. "Edit and Continue" make it an absolute joy to debug.
If you are a little careful it's easy to write portable code under Visual Studio, and Win2k is suprisingly stable.
That said, there's something beautifully pure about using makefiles and debugging with GDB, and its good for your soul to take control on a low level now and then. For me, its kinda like camping in the woods for a few days. Some peope like camping a lot, others don't...
Try both out and see what feels "right".
Cheers,
Justin.
Hence they've been buying developers ( & keeping them independent), then releasing games under the "Microsoft" label: in the lame attempt to fool the world that they can do hip & edgy stuff as well as patches for Office.
I could be wrong, but I think Terminal Reality Inc was the first game company to be bought out by Microsoft, way back in 95....
Cheers,
Justin.
That's a pretty "sad" place to nuke, given that people actually lived there and have since become dispossesed and radiation sick thanks to the good ol' US Government.
Cheers,
j.
Will someone forward this to Blues or Stomped?
cheers,
j.
So yeah, I think he would have done it anyway :)
Cheers,
j.
Dynamic pages don't exist until you click on them in your browser either. Search engines *will* follow links to dynamically generated pages.
The point is there has to be a link there in the first place. Crawlers will not be able to index a dynamic page if it is only accessable through a "form" post.
The way you can get around this is to have a hidden (to users) page on your site with hardcoded (or database generated) links into the dynamic content that you'd like visible from search engines.
For example, if you have a whole heap of news articles on your site, with one per page, you can make a dynamic page called "newslinks" which, when generated by a crawler, querys the database and writes links to every news article in the site.
cheers, j.
The point is there has to be a link there in the first place. They will not be able to index a dynamic page if it is only accessable through a "form" post.
The way you can get around this is to have a hidden (to users) page on your site with hardcoded (or database generated) links into the dynamic content that you'd like visible from search engines.
For example, if you have a whole heap of news articles on your site, with one per page, you can make a dynamic page called "newslinks" which, when generated by a crawler, querys the database and writes links to every news article in the site.
cheers, j.