they have things called "anti social behavior orders" in england to curb.. well, anti social behavior, one such example was this (source above):
The oldest recipient of an order to date is an 87-year-old who among other things is forbidden from being sarcastic to his neighbours (July 2003). He was subsequently found guilty of breaking the terms of his order on three separate occasions.
11. A 13-year-old was served an order banning him from using the word "grass" anywhere in England and Wales.
12. In May 2004, a 16-year-old boy was banned from behaving in an anti-social manner at school. The five year order covers the whole of England and Wales and came as a response to his disruption of a science class
19. The oldest recipient of an order to date is an 87-year-old who among other things is forbidden from being sarcastic to his neighbours (July 2003). He was subsequently found guilty of breaking the terms of his order on three separate occasions. He awaits sentencing but the judge has already made it clear that "there will be no prison for an 88 year old man".
I dont see the reason for all of the hate that people seem to spew whenever a Pi article pops up here.
this seems just the right spot for these articles..
especially this one..
not everyone on slashdot is an old hand at this type of thing.. some might even be inexperienced with linux and messing about with electronics.
this project is an excellent way for people to get involved in the types of things that the more snooty among us really enjoy..
baby steps, yo.
this project doesnt require any soldering! and you can accomplish something.. whats wrong with that?
if you, and others, cant see the value in this im not sure what to say..
it seems like the editors are damned if they do, damned if they dont..
something is either determined not newsworthy enough for nerds..
or, like this, it seems like, while very much for nerds, its not quite complex enough to make them care?.....
well i am here to say i do care, and this type of thing is encouraging me, and others to get involved in electronics..
if you cannot deal with simple interesting projects that get people involved in the world of electronics being posted on on slashdot... im not sure what to say...
but, you do realize that IBM have basically turned this into another one of those pointless corporate advertisements that you might see on TV?..like the GE jet engine adverts..or the siemens ones with spaceX mentioned.. you know, things the average consumer buys..
the clearest fact is that the person who said "the bible is a bunch of bullshit, its [sic] just a fact." clearly has not read the bible.. theres tons of useful stuff in there.
just one example of the insight offered in the bible which has nothing to do with faith can be seen in the book of Deuteronomy.
Designate a place outside the camp where you can go to relieve yourself. As part of your equipment have something to dig with, and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover up your excrement. deut23:12-13 (niv)
Now, this might seem silly/simple/obvious at first.. but if you look at the problems that still exist today, it is anything but a bunch of bullshit.
Over 90 per cent of deaths from diarrhoeal diseases due to unsafe water and sanitation in the developing world occur in children below 5 years old.
About 4,500 children die each day from unsafe water and lack of basic sanitation facilities. Countless others suffer from poor health, diminished productivity and missed opportunities for education.
Diarrhea, mainly caused by poor sanitary conditions, claims the lives of 1.8 million people annually, 1.6 million of them children under five years old, he said, citing World Bank figures.
So here we have nearly 2 million people dying a year due to no toilets and sanitation facilities... they openly defecate without burying it.. the flies carry waste around..
One of the best ways to stop the flies from landing on the human waste and contaminating everything?..burying it.
If people were able to follow this simple bible scripture, one that has nothing to do with God, or Jesus.. we may be able to save hundreds of thousands of lives.
Helping hundreds of thousands of children avoid a horrible death by following a simple scripture, a bunch of bullshit? really?
even PAT ROBERTSON thinks the whole 6000 years thing is a bunch of crap... youd think the militant anti-theism folks would give it a break.
Look, I know that people will probably try to lynch me when I say this, but Bishop Ussher wasn't inspired by the Lord when he said that it all took 6,000 years. It just didn't. You go back in time, you've got radiocarbon dating. You got all these things and you've got the carcasses of dinosaurs frozen in time out in the Dakotas. They're out there. So, there was a time when these giant reptiles were on the Earth and it was before the time of the Bible. So, don't try and cover it up and make like everything was 6,000 years. That's not the Bible. If you fight science you're going to lose your children, and I believe in telling it the way it was.-Pat Robertson
im often glad to see what may on their face seem like 'not slashdot' material posted because people on slashdot often offer insight and info that just doesnt appear anywhere else.
i've not seen it yet on this story but this is the EXACT type of story that some slashdot user will geek out on and bust out all kinds of chemistry stuff about how a certain chemical reacts on the body and how effective they are when used in certain places.. in certain ways..
I think some people often want the stories to be tech related miss something.... a thing that we see on nearly every article.. that people dont read the fuckin article.. we read the comments, because thats where the real good stuff is.
the users who know things, and we have a varied community here, can make even the most mundane story a tech/science related thing that as a geek.. keeps me coming back.
though..im sure, from what ive seen there at burning man.. that slashdot and the 'social media' sites could easily be filled with tons of neato stories about the tech/projects people work on at burning man.. a lot more hotels at sxsw..
a United States-based Arabic-language satellite TV channel funded by the U.S. Congress that broadcasts news and current affairs programming to audiences in the Middle East and North Africa.
Its stated mission is to provide "objective, accurate and relevant news and information" to its audience while seeking to "support democratic values" and "expand the spectrum of ideas, opinions, and perspectives" available in the region's media
it says its available in nearly 2 dozen countries.. i dont see afghanistan on the list.. it looks like the US wont have to worry about competition in that country?
I am surprised to see the push against this, especially in the types of communties like here on slashdot
in the USA to me, this seems just a continuation of the freedom to make photographs in public that people have enjoyed for a long while now. While there have been some challenges.. its been upheld a few times that freedom of speech can include making videos or photographs
not related to photography/video/recording in public in any way at all,.. the supreme court said this in Texas v. Johnson 1989.. a case about whether one should be able to desecrate an american flag.
The First Amendment literally forbids the abridgment only of "speech," but we have long recognized that its protection does not end at the spoken or written word.
While we have rejected the view that an apparently limitless variety of conduct can be labeled "speech" whenever the person engaging in the conduct intends thereby to express an idea... we have acknowledged that conduct may be "sufficiently imbued with elements of communication to fall within the scope of the First and Fourteenth Amendments,"
In deciding whether particular conduct possesses sufficient communicative elements to bring the First Amendment into play, we have asked whether:
[a]n intent to convey a particularized message was present, and [whether] the likelihood was great that the message would be understood by those who viewed it.
at least, for americans like me.. it seems to me to be 'freedom' issue.. it might be unpleasant to know that someone else can annoy you with their Nazi uniform, or video camera but if its in public.. its likely that they are free to do that.
in a somewhat related issue there was the case of a photographer who was in conflict with people who felt he shouldnt have been allowed to sell images of them
Nussenzweig v. diCorcia is a decision by the New York Supreme Court in New York County, holding that a photographer could display, publish, and sell street photography without the consent of the subjects of those photographs
it might be annoying, it might creep people out..but really i just see it as a thing that one might have to deal with in a free and open society
(can one imagine people crying about government crackdowns if we saw China/North Korea banning the use of things like google glass? or am i just being a bit cynical today?)
"How much evil must we do in order to do good? We have certain ideals, certain responsibilities. Recognize that at times you will have to engage in evil, but minimize it."
After the dolphins are kidnapped, an investigation by an undercover government agent for hire, Curtis Mahoney (Paul Sorvino) reveals that the Institute is planning to further train the dolphins to carry out a political assassination by having them place a limpet mine on the hull of the yacht of the President of the United States.
when he starts taking military contracts to put weapons and spy devices on these rockets i will start to be tired of him very quickly..
its sad to imagine how quickly one goes from 'science!' to.....'weapons'
as is, theyve done great at showing one neednt be an aged defense contractor to do this kind of work... i just fear that that success will be marred by getting involved in some of the nasty stuff those very capable defense contractors are involved in.
Slashdot Mirror
Would it be any more difficult to spot one of the vast numerous contractors that work at the behest of the feds?
When I first saw this story I wondered if they were to apply it in a legal sense, and not for marketing..
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmhaff/80/80we20.htm
they have things called "anti social behavior orders" in england to curb.. well, anti social behavior, one such example was this (source above):
The oldest recipient of an order to date is an 87-year-old who among other things is forbidden from being sarcastic to his neighbours (July 2003). He was subsequently found guilty of breaking the terms of his order on three separate occasions.
really? england ?
what about ASBOs ?
https://www.gov.uk/asbo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-social_behaviour_order
those seem kinda of anti-freedom to me.
11. A 13-year-old was served an order banning him from using the word "grass" anywhere in England and Wales.
12. In May 2004, a 16-year-old boy was banned from behaving in an anti-social manner at school. The five year order covers the whole of England and Wales and came as a response to his disruption of a science class
19. The oldest recipient of an order to date is an 87-year-old who among other things is forbidden from being sarcastic to his neighbours (July 2003). He was subsequently found guilty of breaking the terms of his order on three separate occasions. He awaits sentencing but the judge has already made it clear that "there will be no prison for an 88 year old man".
source: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmhaff/80/80we20.htm
When the genetic crops fail they will ALL fail
[citation needed]
(plus, do ya got any good tips on the 2013 MLB World Series ?)
I dont see the reason for all of the hate that people seem to spew whenever a Pi article pops up here.
this seems just the right spot for these articles..
especially this one..
not everyone on slashdot is an old hand at this type of thing.. some might even be inexperienced with linux and messing about with electronics.
this project is an excellent way for people to get involved in the types of things that the more snooty among us really enjoy..
baby steps, yo.
this project doesnt require any soldering! and you can accomplish something.. whats wrong with that?
if you, and others, cant see the value in this im not sure what to say..
it seems like the editors are damned if they do, damned if they dont..
something is either determined not newsworthy enough for nerds..
or, like this, it seems like, while very much for nerds, its not quite complex enough to make them care? .....
well i am here to say i do care, and this type of thing is encouraging me, and others to get involved in electronics..
if you cannot deal with simple interesting projects that get people involved in the world of electronics being posted on on slashdot... im not sure what to say...
perhaps reddit is the place for those people!
i guess some of the moderators are seeing a glitch ..they are seeing 'troll' as 'i disagree'
your comment is +1 interesting
yeah, whatever.
ask the GORN CAPTAIN if the powder kirk made was any good!
yeah.
why dont the mechanics just drive the racecars, too ?
it's fiction, they call it "art"
perhaps youre familiar with some violent fictional art:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator
openbsd allows getting a selection of each archs precompiled binaries as well as the option to build from source the entire port tree.
some ports are available as source only, to be compiled by the enduser
but, you do realize that IBM have basically turned this into another one of those pointless corporate advertisements that you might see on TV? ..like the GE jet engine adverts..or the siemens ones with spaceX mentioned.. you know, things the average consumer buys..
this is one of those.
neat 'science' tho!
Hey!
it's another one of those stories... where its only news because it happened on the internet
if they suggested looking in every letter we sent.. im imagining people would be pretty upset
how is this any different ?
because email can fly around the net in plain text?
are we gonna see a story that says "FBI SCANNING ALL POST CARDS.." ..bleh.
the clearest fact is that the person who said "the bible is a bunch of bullshit, its [sic] just a fact." clearly has not read the bible.. theres tons of useful stuff in there.
just one example of the insight offered in the bible which has nothing to do with faith can be seen in the book of Deuteronomy.
Designate a place outside the camp where you can go to relieve yourself. As part of your equipment have something to dig with, and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover up your excrement. deut23:12-13 (niv)
Now, this might seem silly/simple/obvious at first.. but if you look at the problems that still exist today, it is anything but a bunch of bullshit.
Over 90 per cent of deaths from diarrhoeal diseases due to unsafe water and sanitation in the developing world occur in children below 5 years old.
About 4,500 children die each day from unsafe water and lack of basic sanitation facilities. Countless others suffer from poor health, diminished productivity and missed opportunities for education.
http://www.unicef.org/wash/index_31600.html
Diarrhea, mainly caused by poor sanitary conditions, claims the lives of 1.8 million people annually, 1.6 million of them children under five years old, he said, citing World Bank figures.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2007/10/04/2003381667
So here we have nearly 2 million people dying a year due to no toilets and sanitation facilities... they openly defecate without burying it.. the flies carry waste around..
One of the best ways to stop the flies from landing on the human waste and contaminating everything? ..burying it.
If people were able to follow this simple bible scripture, one that has nothing to do with God, or Jesus.. we may be able to save hundreds of thousands of lives.
Helping hundreds of thousands of children avoid a horrible death by following a simple scripture, a bunch of bullshit? really?
even PAT ROBERTSON thinks the whole 6000 years thing is a bunch of crap... youd think the militant anti-theism folks would give it a break.
Look, I know that people will probably try to lynch me when I say this, but Bishop Ussher wasn't inspired by the Lord when he said that it all took 6,000 years. It just didn't. You go back in time, you've got radiocarbon dating. You got all these things and you've got the carcasses of dinosaurs frozen in time out in the Dakotas.
They're out there. So, there was a time when these giant reptiles were on the Earth and it was before the time of the Bible. So, don't try and cover it up and make like everything was 6,000 years. That's not the Bible. If you fight science you're going to lose your children, and I believe in telling it the way it was.-Pat Robertson
http://www.examiner.com/article/evangelist-pat-robertson-no-longer-preaching-creationism
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/29/pat-robertson-challenges-creationism/
First: wtf is this doing on tec.slashdot.org?
I am glad to see this on slashdot.
im often glad to see what may on their face seem like 'not slashdot' material posted because people on slashdot often offer insight and info that just doesnt appear anywhere else.
i've not seen it yet on this story but this is the EXACT type of story that some slashdot user will geek out on and bust out all kinds of chemistry stuff about how a certain chemical reacts on the body and how effective they are when used in certain places.. in certain ways..
I think some people often want the stories to be tech related miss something.... a thing that we see on nearly every article.. that people dont read the fuckin article.. we read the comments, because thats where the real good stuff is.
the users who know things, and we have a varied community here, can make even the most mundane story a tech/science related thing that as a geek.. keeps me coming back.
LOL..
it took a while for that one to sink in.
great work anonymous coward.
at least they arent saying 'Burning Man'
though ..im sure, from what ive seen there at burning man.. that slashdot and the 'social media' sites could easily be filled with tons of neato stories about the tech/projects people work on at burning man.. a lot more hotels at sxsw..
its little known, i guess.. and i dont know if its been a great success either but the united states govt has its own arab language network..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhurra
a United States-based Arabic-language satellite TV channel funded by the U.S. Congress that broadcasts news and current affairs programming to audiences in the Middle East and North Africa.
Its stated mission is to provide "objective, accurate and relevant news and information" to its audience while seeking to "support democratic values" and "expand the spectrum of ideas, opinions, and perspectives" available in the region's media
it says its available in nearly 2 dozen countries.. i dont see afghanistan on the list.. it looks like the US wont have to worry about competition in that country?
I am surprised to see the push against this, especially in the types of communties like here on slashdot
in the USA to me, this seems just a continuation of the freedom to make photographs in public that people have enjoyed for a long while now. While there have been some challenges.. its been upheld a few times that freedom of speech can include making videos or photographs
not related to photography/video/recording in public in any way at all,.. the supreme court said this in Texas v. Johnson 1989.. a case about whether one should be able to desecrate an american flag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0491_0397_ZS.html
The First Amendment literally forbids the abridgment only of "speech," but we have long recognized that its protection does not end at the spoken or written word.
While we have rejected the view that an apparently limitless variety of conduct can be labeled "speech" whenever the person engaging in the conduct intends thereby to express an idea ... we have acknowledged that conduct may be "sufficiently imbued with elements of communication to fall within the scope of the First and Fourteenth Amendments,"
In deciding whether particular conduct possesses sufficient communicative elements to bring the First Amendment into play, we have asked whether:
[a]n intent to convey a particularized message was present, and [whether] the likelihood was great that the message would be understood by those who viewed it.
at least, for americans like me.. it seems to me to be 'freedom' issue.. it might be unpleasant to know that someone else can annoy you with their Nazi uniform, or video camera but if its in public.. its likely that they are free to do that.
in a somewhat related issue there was the case of a photographer who was in conflict with people who felt he shouldnt have been allowed to sell images of them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nussenzweig_v._DiCorcia
Nussenzweig v. diCorcia is a decision by the New York Supreme Court in New York County, holding that a photographer could display, publish, and sell street photography without the consent of the subjects of those photographs
it might be annoying, it might creep people out ..but really i just see it as a thing that one might have to deal with in a free and open society
(can one imagine people crying about government crackdowns if we saw China/North Korea banning the use of things like google glass? or am i just being a bit cynical today?)
"How much evil must we do in order to do good? We have certain ideals, certain responsibilities. Recognize that at times you will have to engage in evil, but minimize it."
-ROBERT S. McNAMARA
http://www.errolmorris.com/film/fow_transcript.html
there was a book.. and film about dolphins that were trained to talk and in some way involved in an assassination attempt on the president of the USA.
ive never read the book.. and the movie wasnt all that great..
its worth a look if youre in to 70s stuff!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_of_the_Dolphin
After the dolphins are kidnapped, an investigation by an undercover government agent for hire, Curtis Mahoney (Paul Sorvino) reveals that the Institute is planning to further train the dolphins to carry out a political assassination by having them place a limpet mine on the hull of the yacht of the President of the United States.
Are you a NASCAR driver ?
that sure is a lot of plugs.
when he starts taking military contracts to put weapons and spy devices on these rockets i will start to be tired of him very quickly..
its sad to imagine how quickly one goes from 'science!' to .....'weapons'
as is, theyve done great at showing one neednt be an aged defense contractor to do this kind of work... i just fear that that success will be marred by getting involved in some of the nasty stuff those very capable defense contractors are involved in.
At least we can feel comfortable that this story wont turn into a bunch of arguing foaming at the mouth people like all of the Aaron Shwartz posts.
of course, we could argue for weeks on someone outing him!!!