It is an odd paradox that the further people are removed from having used the ammo box the more they see it as some sort of solution to tyranny. Ask Randy Weaver's wife how well that worked out. Or David Koresh.
I have considerable deployment time as a scout sniper in the USMC and I regularly shoot in long range tactical matches. Usually place well. Knowing what I know about the force capability of even the national guard, I have 0% interest in joining some kind of armed insurrection put together by a bunch of weekend shooters with instruction jackets that consist of having watched a Magpul video and accumulated 1000 posts on gun forums.
People who don't know their stuff think it sounds really awesome printed on a flag or the like, but those of us who've seen the elephant hope you all concentrate really hard on the first couple of boxes.
I agree with you completely, because a slippery slope implies a loss of control on everyone's part. What we deal with in these matters is better referred to as moving the Overton Window because there are people purposely moving it in the direction they choose.
No doubt there are plenty of examples of leaping without looking, and leaping while knowing everyone else behind is going to get screwed.
But there are also a lot of times when the full impact of an act can't be known in any practical way. Nature is extraordinarily complex and many very high order interactions can have serious long term consequences. For instance, farmers are finishing up planting here in the midwest. Once again the guy I lease my farm ground to cannot bring himself to understand why I make him leave 10 yard untilled perimeters around all my fields. To him that is just leaving money in the fields. When 'clean farming' first became popular no one thought that it would wreck the quail population, but it does, unless you purposely leave transitions.
And if your fencerows are too clean you hurt the rabbit population.
And with fewer quail and rabbits you have fewer hawks.
Fewer hawks to prey on, say turkey chicks, means more turkey.
More turkey attract more larger predators like coyote.
So I have coyote everywhere because of clean farming. And I left out many dozens of other factors. That natural resources are anything other than inexhaustable is a relatively recent development. For the above, Game Management was published in 1933 and wasn't taken seriously until some time later. As far as widespread application of research based management methods the same time frame applies to forests and waterways and minerals and petroleum and wetlands and etc etc.
Once you've climbed the hill past every other questionable component of human behavior, why not ban porn? You're past racism and oppression and outright murder of whatever race isn't the one in power. And starvation. And everyone has enough water. And you can grow all the food you need. And you haven't sold everything under the ground to companies that will burn everything above making room to dig.
No one is actively raping and pillaging their neighbors. People's homes aren't being burned with government approval. You won't be murdered and your gold teeth pried out if you ride a Kombi outside Johannesburg. Not everyone you meet has aids and does nothing to prevent its spread.
The presence of DRM doesn't seem to be doing much good either.
I don't like pirating but I rightly recognize that it cannot be stopped. All the technical and legal measures taken so far have done nothing more than cause a temporary lull. The many millions of dollars wasted by the RIAA should stand as a fucking monument to what not to do. If they'd taken just what they spent to destroy Napster and built their own digital music store they'd not only have secured their future but they'd also not be at the mercy of their new masters Apple and Amazon.
But fine, the movie people either think they are different or they can't see the forest for the trees. There isn't enough money in the entire industry to sue all the pirates out of existence, but they are going to try anyway because someone watched their movie and didn't pay the $20. Some day in the near future business schools will use this as an example of one of the greatest fundamental misunderstandings of a market ever to be committed by an industry.
Not really sure what an OS extremist would do, though.
A 4 digit UID and you don't recall the good old time distro flame wars here?
Point releases of Debian were announced as if Linus himself had handed them down on silicon tablets. Slackware people would descend on the story like Visigoths on Rome. If you didn't compile from source Gentoo people didn't even consider you a Linux user at all. If you missed typing "GNU" RMS would log in via vterm and personally correct you. Those of us who prefer a BSD flavor were either ignored or flamed, not for our OS choice but its license. RedHat users were the Ubuntu users of today, obviously just trying to be cool enough to show up at a LUG but would reboot to Windows at the first sign of a command line.
Think man. Back when it was actual News for Nerds this place was ground zero OS extremist training camp.
Alternatively you could not rely on symbols to show that religion and science do not have to be in opposition, you could just take the straight forward method and actually take actions now, in real time, that demonstrate, to people alive right now, that religion and science don't have to be in opposition. Not that it matters much because science gained the upper hand long ago and can't effectively be stopped any longer. By locking people up or forcing them to recant on pain of torture, anyway.
As for a Copernicus I don't think he is please. I think he is dead and his corpse long ago rotted mostly away. It isn't possible that he is pleased given that reality.
For those of us still among the living the less validity we lend to voodoo magic symbols the better we will all be. Dig up people you used to persecute or burn incense and chant, it doesn't matter in any practical way to anyone with any sense.
No, it isn't false. In order for there to be a correlation the post ban data would need to be significantly different from the rest of the population, and it is not.
The murder rate in the US is about 3 times higher than the UK rate.
And has tracked along at roughly that without even correlation to any legislation meant to control firearms. Prior to 1938 just about anyone here could purchase a firearm in a hardware store without so much as showing identification. Own a machine gun without paying an exorbitant tax. Murders involving firearms were not impacted after the act. Some localities throughout the US heavily restrict firearms, but again there is not even correlation between their firearms crime statistics and localities that support individual liberty. Like our most recent nationwide gun control attempts (1994 assault weapons ban) before and after differences cannot be detected in the statistics.
People here blame you for this situation, by the way. Had you not sent your non-conformists here (England) or your prisoners (France), the US would not be rooted in violence.
It's better to live in a walled garden when you're entirely incapable of defending yourself from the barbarians at the gates.
Alternatively, we can recognize that no one has to choose one of those options and live with it for the rest of their lives with no hope of ever moving back and forth between the two as their own personal needs dictate. We might also want to drop the reductio ad absurdum rhetoric that ends with the entire world forced at bayonetpoint to use iTunes to conduct all commerce.
I'd do that, but my XP disc is stamped "DO NOT MAKE ILLEGAL COPIES OF THIS DISC" and I haven't yet finished reading USC Title 17 to determine whether your recommendation would be illegal.
I don't know how long you've been paying attention, but media organizations have fought to control nearly every single advancement in the content distribution arena. Their insanity has derailed or generally fucked up a number of great technologies. They've sued their own customers. They've pushed ridiculous monitoring overhead off on people in the business of just carrying packets. They've invaded privacy. They've lied about you to authorities. They've bought laws.
But when I read stories like this its like 10 years ago and I'm watching Cops and here is some beaten housewife, face bruised, blubbering through her bloody lips that even though her husband beats her and drinks to much and she knows he is a degenerate piece shit, she still loves him and does he really have to go to jail? Like her, people like you complain about the transgressions above but you reliably choose them over 'nothing'. No musicno moviesNo TV.
The media organizations do not believe that you are unhappy with them. When they look at their monthly reports they see you still give them your money. It isn't like they have demonstrated particularly clear and forward looking vision.
I have an edge iphone I don't notice any fragmentation.
Apps that want your location get it through cell tower triangulation rather than GPS, with no help from me. I've yet to install an app that wouldn't run due to the hardware differences, although some are unacceptably slow to me.
I'm not sure what you mean by multitasking. I can browse the web at the same time I have a call going. Or listen to music. My email is downloading while I do those things. Maybe there are things the 3G phones can do in that area I've not noticed, but the edge phone does and always has multitasked.
Drawing inspiration from the cartoon world the other editors set up one of those pecking bird novelties to press whatever key moves a submission from the firehose to the front page. They play games with each other by manipulating the office thermostat to affect the rate of peck. When Taco is in the office you see fewer kdawson stories because Taco is warm natured.
I'm not sure this is how pecking birds work but if it isn't there is probably a pecking bird geek in the crowd who will correct me.
They named it kdawson because those are the letters the Chinese characters on its label look most like. Kind of a pinyin for the ignorant.
But they offer a grilled chicken salad that is meal sized and it has only 240 calories. A little high in sodium but not high enough to be a concern unless your doctor has you on a sodium restricted diet. They also have a grilled chicken sandwich at 300 calories, and they offer fruit as an option in place of fries.
So why don't people choose that instead of the combination you listed? The same is true for most fast food joints, they either have lower calorie choices or they used but dropped them because they don't sell.
Right you keep posting that it is a start. I don't deny that but you linked to Jamie Oliver. He starts by trying to educate kids about food, and where the differences between healthy and not lie. He promotes preparing your own food, from fresh ingredients, so you know what goes in it. He also helps kids understand which ingredients are high in calories and which aren't.
Where is any of that in this toy ban? Here is where Santa Clara county was in 2005 with respect to applying nutritional guidelines to vending machines. The first bullet point under 'lessons learned' is about the challenge of explaining nutritional standards to the public. What advancement has been made in the 5 years since other than advancing to banning new things.
Mercury News links to the nutritional guidelines that will be used. So a meal with more than 485 total calories or more than 600 milligrams of sodium can't include a toy. Why 485 and 600?
At some point we'll have to demand actual accomplishments from people rather than letting them get off to good starts over and over.
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It is an odd paradox that the further people are removed from having used the ammo box the more they see it as some sort of solution to tyranny. Ask Randy Weaver's wife how well that worked out. Or David Koresh.
I have considerable deployment time as a scout sniper in the USMC and I regularly shoot in long range tactical matches. Usually place well. Knowing what I know about the force capability of even the national guard, I have 0% interest in joining some kind of armed insurrection put together by a bunch of weekend shooters with instruction jackets that consist of having watched a Magpul video and accumulated 1000 posts on gun forums.
People who don't know their stuff think it sounds really awesome printed on a flag or the like, but those of us who've seen the elephant hope you all concentrate really hard on the first couple of boxes.
I agree with you completely, because a slippery slope implies a loss of control on everyone's part. What we deal with in these matters is better referred to as moving the Overton Window because there are people purposely moving it in the direction they choose.
No doubt there are plenty of examples of leaping without looking, and leaping while knowing everyone else behind is going to get screwed.
But there are also a lot of times when the full impact of an act can't be known in any practical way. Nature is extraordinarily complex and many very high order interactions can have serious long term consequences. For instance, farmers are finishing up planting here in the midwest. Once again the guy I lease my farm ground to cannot bring himself to understand why I make him leave 10 yard untilled perimeters around all my fields. To him that is just leaving money in the fields. When 'clean farming' first became popular no one thought that it would wreck the quail population, but it does, unless you purposely leave transitions.
And if your fencerows are too clean you hurt the rabbit population.
And with fewer quail and rabbits you have fewer hawks.
Fewer hawks to prey on, say turkey chicks, means more turkey.
More turkey attract more larger predators like coyote.
So I have coyote everywhere because of clean farming. And I left out many dozens of other factors. That natural resources are anything other than inexhaustable is a relatively recent development. For the above, Game Management was published in 1933 and wasn't taken seriously until some time later. As far as widespread application of research based management methods the same time frame applies to forests and waterways and minerals and petroleum and wetlands and etc etc.
Once you've climbed the hill past every other questionable component of human behavior, why not ban porn? You're past racism and oppression and outright murder of whatever race isn't the one in power. And starvation. And everyone has enough water. And you can grow all the food you need. And you haven't sold everything under the ground to companies that will burn everything above making room to dig.
No one is actively raping and pillaging their neighbors. People's homes aren't being burned with government approval. You won't be murdered and your gold teeth pried out if you ride a Kombi outside Johannesburg. Not everyone you meet has aids and does nothing to prevent its spread.
So yeah why not tackle porn?
The presence of DRM doesn't seem to be doing much good either.
I don't like pirating but I rightly recognize that it cannot be stopped. All the technical and legal measures taken so far have done nothing more than cause a temporary lull. The many millions of dollars wasted by the RIAA should stand as a fucking monument to what not to do. If they'd taken just what they spent to destroy Napster and built their own digital music store they'd not only have secured their future but they'd also not be at the mercy of their new masters Apple and Amazon.
But fine, the movie people either think they are different or they can't see the forest for the trees. There isn't enough money in the entire industry to sue all the pirates out of existence, but they are going to try anyway because someone watched their movie and didn't pay the $20. Some day in the near future business schools will use this as an example of one of the greatest fundamental misunderstandings of a market ever to be committed by an industry.
Not really sure what an OS extremist would do, though.
A 4 digit UID and you don't recall the good old time distro flame wars here?
Point releases of Debian were announced as if Linus himself had handed them down on silicon tablets. Slackware people would descend on the story like Visigoths on Rome. If you didn't compile from source Gentoo people didn't even consider you a Linux user at all. If you missed typing "GNU" RMS would log in via vterm and personally correct you. Those of us who prefer a BSD flavor were either ignored or flamed, not for our OS choice but its license. RedHat users were the Ubuntu users of today, obviously just trying to be cool enough to show up at a LUG but would reboot to Windows at the first sign of a command line.
Think man. Back when it was actual News for Nerds this place was ground zero OS extremist training camp.
I have one simple requirement: all laws must be written in a Wiki with full history.
I have another:
All laws must have a measureable objective, defined in advance of their passage, that they must meet or otherwise be repealed.
Alternatively you could not rely on symbols to show that religion and science do not have to be in opposition, you could just take the straight forward method and actually take actions now, in real time, that demonstrate, to people alive right now, that religion and science don't have to be in opposition. Not that it matters much because science gained the upper hand long ago and can't effectively be stopped any longer. By locking people up or forcing them to recant on pain of torture, anyway.
As for a Copernicus I don't think he is please. I think he is dead and his corpse long ago rotted mostly away. It isn't possible that he is pleased given that reality.
For those of us still among the living the less validity we lend to voodoo magic symbols the better we will all be. Dig up people you used to persecute or burn incense and chant, it doesn't matter in any practical way to anyone with any sense.
Or they didn't charge more because they learned their lesson with the iphone that you piss off early adopters if you drop your price, and you end up having to give them free apple store gift cards or the like to slow the stream of negative blogging being reported as a national emergency on TV news.
It isn't a comparison between 6 and 9.
Leave statistics to people who know statistics. I don't look over your shoulder and tell you when the fries are done.
No, it isn't false. In order for there to be a correlation the post ban data would need to be significantly different from the rest of the population, and it is not.
The murder rate in the US is about 3 times higher than the UK rate.
And has tracked along at roughly that without even correlation to any legislation meant to control firearms. Prior to 1938 just about anyone here could purchase a firearm in a hardware store without so much as showing identification. Own a machine gun without paying an exorbitant tax. Murders involving firearms were not impacted after the act. Some localities throughout the US heavily restrict firearms, but again there is not even correlation between their firearms crime statistics and localities that support individual liberty. Like our most recent nationwide gun control attempts (1994 assault weapons ban) before and after differences cannot be detected in the statistics.
People here blame you for this situation, by the way. Had you not sent your non-conformists here (England) or your prisoners (France), the US would not be rooted in violence.
But what do I know, I'm from Africa.
It's better to live in a walled garden when you're entirely incapable of defending yourself from the barbarians at the gates.
Alternatively, we can recognize that no one has to choose one of those options and live with it for the rest of their lives with no hope of ever moving back and forth between the two as their own personal needs dictate. We might also want to drop the reductio ad absurdum rhetoric that ends with the entire world forced at bayonetpoint to use iTunes to conduct all commerce.
I'd do that, but my XP disc is stamped "DO NOT MAKE ILLEGAL COPIES OF THIS DISC" and I haven't yet finished reading USC Title 17 to determine whether your recommendation would be illegal.
Don't they?
Because it is? Certainly it is in this case.
I don't know how long you've been paying attention, but media organizations have fought to control nearly every single advancement in the content distribution arena. Their insanity has derailed or generally fucked up a number of great technologies. They've sued their own customers. They've pushed ridiculous monitoring overhead off on people in the business of just carrying packets. They've invaded privacy. They've lied about you to authorities. They've bought laws.
But when I read stories like this its like 10 years ago and I'm watching Cops and here is some beaten housewife, face bruised, blubbering through her bloody lips that even though her husband beats her and drinks to much and she knows he is a degenerate piece shit, she still loves him and does he really have to go to jail? Like her, people like you complain about the transgressions above but you reliably choose them over 'nothing'. No music no movies No TV.
The media organizations do not believe that you are unhappy with them. When they look at their monthly reports they see you still give them your money. It isn't like they have demonstrated particularly clear and forward looking vision.
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I have an edge iphone I don't notice any fragmentation.
Apps that want your location get it through cell tower triangulation rather than GPS, with no help from me. I've yet to install an app that wouldn't run due to the hardware differences, although some are unacceptably slow to me.
I'm not sure what you mean by multitasking. I can browse the web at the same time I have a call going. Or listen to music. My email is downloading while I do those things. Maybe there are things the 3G phones can do in that area I've not noticed, but the edge phone does and always has multitasked.
Which prison are you in?
There is no kdawson.
Drawing inspiration from the cartoon world the other editors set up one of those pecking bird novelties to press whatever key moves a submission from the firehose to the front page. They play games with each other by manipulating the office thermostat to affect the rate of peck. When Taco is in the office you see fewer kdawson stories because Taco is warm natured.
I'm not sure this is how pecking birds work but if it isn't there is probably a pecking bird geek in the crowd who will correct me.
They named it kdawson because those are the letters the Chinese characters on its label look most like. Kind of a pinyin for the ignorant.
http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtml
Order 50 and give them all your friends.
But they offer a grilled chicken salad that is meal sized and it has only 240 calories. A little high in sodium but not high enough to be a concern unless your doctor has you on a sodium restricted diet. They also have a grilled chicken sandwich at 300 calories, and they offer fruit as an option in place of fries.
So why don't people choose that instead of the combination you listed? The same is true for most fast food joints, they either have lower calorie choices or they used but dropped them because they don't sell.
Right you keep posting that it is a start. I don't deny that but you linked to Jamie Oliver. He starts by trying to educate kids about food, and where the differences between healthy and not lie. He promotes preparing your own food, from fresh ingredients, so you know what goes in it. He also helps kids understand which ingredients are high in calories and which aren't.
Where is any of that in this toy ban? Here is where Santa Clara county was in 2005 with respect to applying nutritional guidelines to vending machines. The first bullet point under 'lessons learned' is about the challenge of explaining nutritional standards to the public. What advancement has been made in the 5 years since other than advancing to banning new things.
Mercury News links to the nutritional guidelines that will be used. So a meal with more than 485 total calories or more than 600 milligrams of sodium can't include a toy. Why 485 and 600?
At some point we'll have to demand actual accomplishments from people rather than letting them get off to good starts over and over.
How does banning toys in Happy Meals follow along with what Jamie Oliver is doing? Is there some provision to actually educate anyone?
Not that it matters, really. The floodgates have been open for a while already.
The moment you start giving a free ride to apathy just because you disagree with a decision you open the floodgates to total apathy anarchy.
Not that it matters, really. The floodgates have been open for a while already.