You'll fare better, and your arguments will meet a better reception, once you realize that not everyone who disagrees with you is a cynic. You've used some variation of that word a half dozen times in this thread alone.
Some us simply refuse to select which rights we want to see lost. I want to keep my rifle and I don't care if two gays marry. What do you mean that choice isn't on the list? I thought my vote mattered?
So while people like you put their efforts toward deciding which anal rape scenario will be the least inconvenient people like me get up on their hind legs and fight. I focus my attention on local candidates, because that is where my vote 'matters' most and that is where future candidates for higher offices typically come from. And I support, to whatever extent I can, legislation that holds these motherfuckers responsible for their actions. Bush is going to retire to a plush estate with comforts that can come only from a long list of important friends and a pile of money you'd need a warehouse to store. If we'd arranged things properly in advance he would commit suicide in anticipatory capitulation for fear of what we'd do to him, for the crimes he has committed.
The parent poster is complaining on behalf of users who don't really have a solid handle on any aspect of the computer other than means to launch and use the few applications they care about. I have known many of them who are afraid to delete shortcuts from their desktop or Start Menu. They are afraid to move them around. They are afraid to rename them. I try to explain the difference between a shortcut and an executable. They do not understand.
And those of us who do understand usually just want to do some work with our computer, not get constantly bogged down with administrative tasks and upkeep. And the free-for-all Windows allows application installers results in just that kind of bogging down.
Install something new:
delete its desktop shortcut(s)
open Start Menu -> drag executable shortcut to All Programs -> delete vendor named folder containing the uninstall link and the link to the vendor's web site
check Start -> All Programs -> Startup to see if anything stupid has been added, delete if so
Start -> Run -> regedit. Check the two or three places in the Registry to see if anything stupid has been set to start at boot
Check Services...whatever menu based rigamaroll you have to go through these days to do that...disable any automatic services that are stupid
Open up My Documents, sort past all the various "My..." folders to find and delete the various stupidities your new app created there
If I was building a team to decide which way the tastes of consumers would turn, last picked would be the kid who can't get people to take his product at 0% the price of his competitors.
All those people who invest based on their estimation of that human capital are welcome to ask for medical records, get told to fuck off, and exercise their prerogative to buy or sell stock accordingly.
As with most generalizations, yours is too general. A great many regular Africans would be happy to get by not much above subsistence, if they could do it in relative freedom.
The problem happens to be that while 'a great many' think a world of peace, love, and understanding would be a great place to live, there are a few who think it sounds like a great place to pillage.
If you examine closely my quote of you above you will find an embedded clue to point you in the direction of the primary reason why the product you mention has so much blood surrounding it.
Back when we put it in popular fizzy drinks, no one was motivated to slaughter for it. No more than any other legitimate business anyway. And there wasn't enough profit after tax to fund entire armies.
You assume that preventing children from seeing 'things that will harm them' online is a means of protecting them. It isn't, of course, not that this law would do that anyway.
What would protect children more than anything else would be stiff penalties for lawmakers who pass laws later found to be unconstitutional. Something on the order of losing your pension. They know what they are doing, and it is time we held them responsible somewhere other than on the campaign trail.
It is unfortunate, for the rest of us, that you don't know what the parent poster is talking about yet you feel compelled to reply.
RSLogix 5, 500, and 5000 are Windows only. RSView is Windows only. Citect, Windows only. Solidworks, Windows only. Wonderware InTouch, Windows only. Siemens S7 runs only on Windows. Emerson DeltaV is Windows only. Emerson EnTech == Windows. All of Fanuc's robot software is for Windows and no other OSs. Panasonic FPWIN PRO is Windows only. Baldor MintNC, Windows. Typact TPd32 runs only on Windows.
Anyway, thats just off the Windows partition of my T61 up until I got bored.
Just because you aren't aware of it doesn't mean there isn't plenty of software that requires many of us to use Windows even though we'd rather not. And if I roll into some factory to fix a robot or something its time to do work and get paid, not grandstand about which software development model I like best.
I don't find it a toy feature at all, I think it is the most elegant solution to browsing the web, maps, photos, etc. on a small screen I've seen yet.
Since the Freerunner's screen is smaller, and from the screenshots it looks like more of its space is taken up by administrative junk, there might not be enough room to pinch/unpinch anyway.
You need an iTunes account, even for the free apps, but you don't need iTunes itself installed on your computer. You can install all the App Store apps from the iPhone itself.
It does force you to use WiFi if the install package is >10MB though.
I browsed around the App Store and thought it was seriously lacking compared with what can be had through Installer.app, and this is ignoring the fact that most of the decent stuff requires a payment.
I'd use maybe one of the radio app (like Pandora), maybe the NYT app, Weatherbug kicks ass. The rest of it is no better written than the free apps (lots of absurd interface choices), and there are no useful utilities like SSH. A killer, probably for me and a small fraction of others only, is that the developer of iXBal didn't get on the approved list, so I can't use my iPhone to give me firing solutions out on the rifle course, meaning I have to carry a Palm in addition to a phone.
Obviously a selfish complaint, but there are probably many other jailbreakers thinking the same thing about their pet app and if Apple had let everyone in they'd be more amenable to upgrading.
The 2.0 part is the firmware. People with EDGE iPhones who upgrade to the 2.0 firmware get push, location awareness for Google Maps and the camera and wherever else they wove it in, searchable contacts, App store....blah blah.
Essentially everything but 3G and a black case back.
Since you are person #2 to point this out, using this language, this early in the comments, I'll take this opportunity to tell you that you don't 'have' to do any such thing. No one makes you buy the phone in the first place.
I don't live in a 3G area either, EDGE barely works out here, but I had an EDGE iPhone gifted to me. And even though that stuck me with a data plan I could only use when I traveled, the phone itself has turned out to be well worth it. When the 2.0 firmware jailbreak comes out, and iXbal gets ported to it, I may well buy the new one. What I don't expect I'll do is come on Slashdot and claim someone is making me pay for a 3G plan I can't use because, obviously, I am free to either choose to buy the phone and pay for the plan or make due with some other phone.
That would cut out a lot of the drama that keeps the Tour in the news year round. From a marketing standpoint they really need to catch a couple of big names every year in the doping net....not enough to deplete the field but a couple of well known names...a Castre or a Hincapie type guy this year would be good. Both of those guys would looke really good in a commercial, where footage of their accomplishments was played in reverse to shame them.
I like the Flandis one, where they busted an Amish guy on the day he rode away from the field in spectacular fashion, high on a drug that wouldn't have impacted his ability to ride away from the field in spectacular fashion. That entertained us all for 2 years.
and therefor not only has the right, but the DUTY to step in
It is a matter of established legal precedent that a cop has absolutely no duty whatsoever to protect anyone from anything. There are no professional repercussions for his walking away from the scene of your ass kicking.
Which is why it can't work. Often, on Slashdot, the answer to a problem is that people need to educate themselves and then, for sure, they'll make choices we all agree with. If they only understood all there was to understand about a given topic the world would be a better place.
And maybe that is true, but it isn't possible. If we start our list of stuff to be concerned about by looking at the front page of Slashdot we find: Telecom Immunity; Bell puffing up the P2P problem; the offensiveness of WTF; whether we should spend money exploring other planets; China's internet censorship; security on the web; and the big one: a SCOTUS decision on the 2nd Amendment.
Even if you can keep up with all of that, Slashdot is just 1 web forum and it is mostly tech focused.
And even with this limited scope you can find plenty of fundamental misunderstandings. Some people above us right here in this discussion have linked to a Wikipedia article about Ex Post Facto. Those linkers obviously either couldn't be bothered to read all the way through the article or they just didn't get it, because it doesn't apply to the discussion at hand. Look at the comments on the SCOTUS story and there are people writing about how Governments grant people rights, which is about as low level a failure at understanding the concept of rights as there is.
So I don't see education or keeping up with things or people getting more involved as a solution, there is just too much data to work with and getting to it is often arduous. And plenty of it is just beyond their ability to understand. The RTFA meme here didn't come up by accident, and half the time the submissions don't link to actual raw information, they link to a blog summary of an AP story of the highlights of the content of a press release about a paper someone wrote.
Even with a somewhat techy, science oriented, crowd there is still an inability to identify and get at the facts behind any given subject. If our discussions in this limited arena constantly devolve into one Overlord Welcoming post after another, how can we expect anyone else to pay attention past the face on their big screen TV telling them what to think?
is it just that people don't bother to do the research and find out just who is lining their leaders' pockets?
Because that would just be an exercise in sorting out which candidates get their pockets lined by people you agree with. And it would just be a snapshot. By the next day a different set of people, with whom you might not agree, would be buying the votes.
And you'd also find out they are all on the take, so whether you agree with any of it or not you have no ready replacements available.
Then you'd end up highly cynical about politics, and government in general, and you'd be here on Slashdot looking for any opportunity to spread that cynicism to people who show any sign of not yet being fully cynicised.
Slashdot Mirror
You'll fare better, and your arguments will meet a better reception, once you realize that not everyone who disagrees with you is a cynic. You've used some variation of that word a half dozen times in this thread alone.
Some us simply refuse to select which rights we want to see lost. I want to keep my rifle and I don't care if two gays marry. What do you mean that choice isn't on the list? I thought my vote mattered?
So while people like you put their efforts toward deciding which anal rape scenario will be the least inconvenient people like me get up on their hind legs and fight. I focus my attention on local candidates, because that is where my vote 'matters' most and that is where future candidates for higher offices typically come from. And I support, to whatever extent I can, legislation that holds these motherfuckers responsible for their actions. Bush is going to retire to a plush estate with comforts that can come only from a long list of important friends and a pile of money you'd need a warehouse to store. If we'd arranged things properly in advance he would commit suicide in anticipatory capitulation for fear of what we'd do to him, for the crimes he has committed.
He gets paid to submit articles to Slashdot?
I don't think you understand.
The parent poster is complaining on behalf of users who don't really have a solid handle on any aspect of the computer other than means to launch and use the few applications they care about. I have known many of them who are afraid to delete shortcuts from their desktop or Start Menu. They are afraid to move them around. They are afraid to rename them. I try to explain the difference between a shortcut and an executable. They do not understand.
And those of us who do understand usually just want to do some work with our computer, not get constantly bogged down with administrative tasks and upkeep. And the free-for-all Windows allows application installers results in just that kind of bogging down.
Install something new:
If I was building a team to decide which way the tastes of consumers would turn, last picked would be the kid who can't get people to take his product at 0% the price of his competitors.
Yes, human capital and all that.
All those people who invest based on their estimation of that human capital are welcome to ask for medical records, get told to fuck off, and exercise their prerogative to buy or sell stock accordingly.
Pay Microsoft for a license key.
As with most generalizations, yours is too general. A great many regular Africans would be happy to get by not much above subsistence, if they could do it in relative freedom.
The problem happens to be that while 'a great many' think a world of peace, love, and understanding would be a great place to live, there are a few who think it sounds like a great place to pillage.
illegal
If you examine closely my quote of you above you will find an embedded clue to point you in the direction of the primary reason why the product you mention has so much blood surrounding it.
Back when we put it in popular fizzy drinks, no one was motivated to slaughter for it. No more than any other legitimate business anyway. And there wasn't enough profit after tax to fund entire armies.
But now there is.
You assume that preventing children from seeing 'things that will harm them' online is a means of protecting them. It isn't, of course, not that this law would do that anyway.
What would protect children more than anything else would be stiff penalties for lawmakers who pass laws later found to be unconstitutional. Something on the order of losing your pension. They know what they are doing, and it is time we held them responsible somewhere other than on the campaign trail.
It is unfortunate, for the rest of us, that you don't know what the parent poster is talking about yet you feel compelled to reply.
RSLogix 5, 500, and 5000 are Windows only.
RSView is Windows only.
Citect, Windows only.
Solidworks, Windows only.
Wonderware InTouch, Windows only.
Siemens S7 runs only on Windows.
Emerson DeltaV is Windows only.
Emerson EnTech == Windows.
All of Fanuc's robot software is for Windows and no other OSs.
Panasonic FPWIN PRO is Windows only.
Baldor MintNC, Windows.
Typact TPd32 runs only on Windows.
Anyway, thats just off the Windows partition of my T61 up until I got bored.
Just because you aren't aware of it doesn't mean there isn't plenty of software that requires many of us to use Windows even though we'd rather not. And if I roll into some factory to fix a robot or something its time to do work and get paid, not grandstand about which software development model I like best.
You need to shoot in matches, then you can buy from the Civilian Marksmanship Program.
I don't find it a toy feature at all, I think it is the most elegant solution to browsing the web, maps, photos, etc. on a small screen I've seen yet.
Since the Freerunner's screen is smaller, and from the screenshots it looks like more of its space is taken up by administrative junk, there might not be enough room to pinch/unpinch anyway.
You need an iTunes account, even for the free apps, but you don't need iTunes itself installed on your computer. You can install all the App Store apps from the iPhone itself.
It does force you to use WiFi if the install package is >10MB though.
Channel28.EverybodyLovesRaymond
Channel52.AmericanIdol
Channel76.FriendsReruns
Channel95.FoxNews
Channel176.WWESmackdown
I mean seriously, do any of these TV shows contribute anything of value to society???
I browsed around the App Store and thought it was seriously lacking compared with what can be had through Installer.app, and this is ignoring the fact that most of the decent stuff requires a payment. I'd use maybe one of the radio app (like Pandora), maybe the NYT app, Weatherbug kicks ass. The rest of it is no better written than the free apps (lots of absurd interface choices), and there are no useful utilities like SSH. A killer, probably for me and a small fraction of others only, is that the developer of iXBal didn't get on the approved list, so I can't use my iPhone to give me firing solutions out on the rifle course, meaning I have to carry a Palm in addition to a phone. Obviously a selfish complaint, but there are probably many other jailbreakers thinking the same thing about their pet app and if Apple had let everyone in they'd be more amenable to upgrading.
The 2.0 part is the firmware. People with EDGE iPhones who upgrade to the 2.0 firmware get push, location awareness for Google Maps and the camera and wherever else they wove it in, searchable contacts, App store....blah blah.
Essentially everything but 3G and a black case back.
Since you are person #2 to point this out, using this language, this early in the comments, I'll take this opportunity to tell you that you don't 'have' to do any such thing. No one makes you buy the phone in the first place.
I don't live in a 3G area either, EDGE barely works out here, but I had an EDGE iPhone gifted to me. And even though that stuck me with a data plan I could only use when I traveled, the phone itself has turned out to be well worth it. When the 2.0 firmware jailbreak comes out, and iXbal gets ported to it, I may well buy the new one. What I don't expect I'll do is come on Slashdot and claim someone is making me pay for a 3G plan I can't use because, obviously, I am free to either choose to buy the phone and pay for the plan or make due with some other phone.
That would cut out a lot of the drama that keeps the Tour in the news year round. From a marketing standpoint they really need to catch a couple of big names every year in the doping net....not enough to deplete the field but a couple of well known names...a Castre or a Hincapie type guy this year would be good. Both of those guys would looke really good in a commercial, where footage of their accomplishments was played in reverse to shame them.
I like the Flandis one, where they busted an Amish guy on the day he rode away from the field in spectacular fashion, high on a drug that wouldn't have impacted his ability to ride away from the field in spectacular fashion. That entertained us all for 2 years.
But Alejandro Valverde, he can beat you.
You can often find decomissioned HMI panels for next to nothing. That's how I change the temperature on my hot tub.
They are usually touch screens and their power suppliers can be pretty versatile (combo 120vAC/24v DC is common).
and therefor not only has the right, but the DUTY to step in
It is a matter of established legal precedent that a cop has absolutely no duty whatsoever to protect anyone from anything. There are no professional repercussions for his walking away from the scene of your ass kicking.
Low prices, high volume.
It's with you
Which is why it can't work. Often, on Slashdot, the answer to a problem is that people need to educate themselves and then, for sure, they'll make choices we all agree with. If they only understood all there was to understand about a given topic the world would be a better place.
And maybe that is true, but it isn't possible. If we start our list of stuff to be concerned about by looking at the front page of Slashdot we find: Telecom Immunity; Bell puffing up the P2P problem; the offensiveness of WTF; whether we should spend money exploring other planets; China's internet censorship; security on the web; and the big one: a SCOTUS decision on the 2nd Amendment.
Even if you can keep up with all of that, Slashdot is just 1 web forum and it is mostly tech focused.
And even with this limited scope you can find plenty of fundamental misunderstandings. Some people above us right here in this discussion have linked to a Wikipedia article about Ex Post Facto. Those linkers obviously either couldn't be bothered to read all the way through the article or they just didn't get it, because it doesn't apply to the discussion at hand. Look at the comments on the SCOTUS story and there are people writing about how Governments grant people rights, which is about as low level a failure at understanding the concept of rights as there is.
So I don't see education or keeping up with things or people getting more involved as a solution, there is just too much data to work with and getting to it is often arduous. And plenty of it is just beyond their ability to understand. The RTFA meme here didn't come up by accident, and half the time the submissions don't link to actual raw information, they link to a blog summary of an AP story of the highlights of the content of a press release about a paper someone wrote.
Even with a somewhat techy, science oriented, crowd there is still an inability to identify and get at the facts behind any given subject. If our discussions in this limited arena constantly devolve into one Overlord Welcoming post after another, how can we expect anyone else to pay attention past the face on their big screen TV telling them what to think?
And who would we have write and approve those rules?
is it just that people don't bother to do the research and find out just who is lining their leaders' pockets?
Because that would just be an exercise in sorting out which candidates get their pockets lined by people you agree with. And it would just be a snapshot. By the next day a different set of people, with whom you might not agree, would be buying the votes.
And you'd also find out they are all on the take, so whether you agree with any of it or not you have no ready replacements available.
Then you'd end up highly cynical about politics, and government in general, and you'd be here on Slashdot looking for any opportunity to spread that cynicism to people who show any sign of not yet being fully cynicised.