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"Citation needed" = Stupid mother fucker too lazy to do a simple Google search.

Gawd, why can't gun violence visit your doorstep and save us all from suffering your stupid snarky posts?

Looks to me like a Republican, in the face of potential gun bans, is pointing at video games and saying "LOOK OVER HERE! HERE! LOOK OVER HERE INSTEAD."

Well, I guess it would be okay if Colleen Lachowicz was my representative. Otherwise, I'd refuse. I mean, are there even any republicans out there that have actually played a videogame?

I've read that source too (specifically to get more of the details). The blog and the article (at least the part available so far) have different focuses. The former on the punishment sought, the latter on the charges and the case. My post referred to the punishment sought; perhaps it is more accurate to say the punishment sought and the decision to seek it. Your reply continues to focus on the case and the charges despite my not disputing them.

I repeat, I do not dispute those charges. What I dispute is the decision of the prosecutor to pursue those charges against the wishes of the victim after a civil settlement had been made and the further decision to pursue guilty pleas to every count and jail time for them despite the risk of the punishment far exceeding the crime.

Your analogy is a little off, too. Please correct me if I'm wrong: it misses the bits where one of you (JSTOR) told the government the matter was settled, the other one of you (MIT) prevaricated as to whether it cared, and the government (Prosecutor) unilaterally decided to put the guy in jail anyway and that some of your money would be spent to do this (unless JSTOR/MIT don't pay taxes) whilst ignoring your objections and refusing plea bargain requests from the defence; the defendant and the government having a history of conflict; and a system where successful prosecutions can be rewarded politically.

So this whole furor isn't about the legalities. This is about justice, and it must not only be done, it must be seen to be done. It applies to prosecutors too, not only judges and their clerks, and particularly when it is the choice of the prosecutor whether to pursue, rather than a legal requirement.

...I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with a fine plus time served.

Furthermore, he almost certainly could get a plea bargain-- believe it or not, prosecutors don't want to go to court if they can possibly get a conviction without doing so. Unfortunately, a plea bargain would have required Swartz admitting that he did broke the law, and it looks like he was not the type of person who would do that.

Swartz tried to plea bargain two days before he killed himself. The prosecutor adamantly refused to accept less than a guilty plea to every single charge (even the patently absurd ones), and was also adamant that prison time would be required.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2262137/Aaron-Swartz-Reddit-founder-request-plea-deal-turned-Massachusetts-prosecutor.html

If you're just going to make stuff up, you should probably be quiet.

Until they have the same standards as a mechanical, aerospace, chemical, etc engineers they are not really engineers.

It's this exact mentality that makes those other kinds of engineers rather poor software developers.

I'd be quite happy to see the STEM sphere partitioned into engineers, with engineering standards (slow-moving, narrow specifications and slow, expensive implementation) and elite non-engineers (as yet unnamed) who are flexible, change focused, and wise enough about systems to be mostly right, most of the time.

There's a special place in hell reserved for people who think we could suffice with only the former and none of the latter.

In the military, the divide falls in large measure somewhere between procurement (top heavy in formal engineering) and supply chain management.

How U.S. Army spent $5BILLION on 'failed' pixel camouflage... because they 'wanted to look cooler than Marines'

While soldiers were issued with desert camouflage uniforms, their darker equipment - including flak jackets - stood out against the light-coloured clothing, making troops dangerously conspicuous.

Five teams of hard engineers, five incompatible colour schemes. This is roughly where the software engineering usually begins in a sufficiently large project.

Prepare your tinfoil hat dudes because lots of pieces of information are starting to come together.

If we take McAfee's findings as true (which they appear to be) then Iran is preparing the capability of conducting a massive chemical attack on the United States. I will now present the threads of evidence for you to consider.

• Motivation: it is well know that the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), a 57 country body, seeks to establish Sharia (Islamic Law) worldwide.
• Legal basis: the OIC defines "terrorism" only as non-lawful attacks made by non-Muslims against Muslims. Attacks made by jihadis supporting Sharia are considered lawful. The 9/11 attack is considered lawful under this basis. A ricin WMD attack by Hezbollah through Mexico would also be considered lawful by the OIC. Here is a 75-minute video by intelligence Major Stepehen Coughlin (retired) where he covers the legal concepts the OIC use (for fans of Orwell, the OIC are masters of doublespeak): http://www.mrctv.org/videos/stephen-coughlin-oic-brief [the first 55 seconds of the video is blank, please skip past it]
• Jurisdiction: The OIC claims jurisdiction over all Muslims. It also claims jurisdiction over non-Muslims engaging in "Islamophobia" (which the OIC defines as anything opposing the Sharia, eg. the US Constitution). Hence they essentially claim global jurisdiction. See the same video in the previous point for the discussion about this.
• Agents: Hezbollah are Iran's agents. They don't do anything without Iran's say so.
• Iran: Iran wishes to destroy the US, Israel and the Western way of life - it says so every day (it is trivial to find YouTube videos that show this). It appears Iran is preparing multiple ways to do this: a nuclear track and McAfee has uncovered a ricin WMD attack. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px2CvPySHSs (with the input of a moderate Muslim, they're not all bad).
• US complicity: The State Department, White House and US military senior leadership (eg, after the Fort Hood massacre) appear to believe that intolerance of Muslims is a greater threat than the threat of jihadi terrorism. They are suppressing the information that independent researchers discover. They also vilify these researchers despite *facts* being uncovered. The State Department is currently (and probably unintentionally) advancing the cause of Islam by suppressing facts that are emerging and not standing up for the 1st Amendment (Free Speech) Rights of US citizens, instead suggesting things like Hillary Clinton's "naming and shaming" campaigns. This is a disgraceful position to suppress the lawful Free Speech rights of US citizens in their own country to appease foreign islamic powers. Conclusion: the State Department in the current administration is misguided and currently working *against the interests* of US citizens.
• US media: the US media are trying to promote tolerance of Islam to the point they overlook and suppress the significance of events happening around the world. Global media are self-censoring (notice how they pixellate out the image, where is Free Speech in the press?): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256690/Magazine-firebombed-printing-satirical-Sharia-edition-France-publishes-Prophet-Mohammed-cartoon-book.html
• False narrative: there is a false narrative that the threat to the US is caused by "radical Islam". While there are moderate Muslims (good people) there is no disagreement as to what the Qur'an and hadiths say. The problem is Islam. As Turkey's Erdogan famously said recently, "There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.". It is important to understand that the

They should team up with the researcher from last year,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2115974/Einstein-right-CERN-says-particles-DIDNT-travel-faster-light--quite-right-years-experiment.html

We'll show them the light ! Here they are, all of them in all their glory:

http://www.independent.ie/
http://www.irishexaminer.com/
http://www.irishtimes.com/
http://www.thestar.ie/
http://www.herald.ie/
http://www.independent.ie/
http://www.sundayworld.com/
http://www.businesspost.ie/
http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/fr/viewer.aspx (they don't even have a website, how funny)
http://www.farmersjournal.ie/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/
http://www.thesun.ie/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/
http://www.thesun.co.uk/

Most of them don't even have an irish dedicated website. They are pathetic. It's like passing a decree that makes people owing me $300 if they ever whisper my name in their car. There. Be warned.

maybe its the most clever link bait :)

We'll show them the light ! Here they are, all of them in all their glory:

http://www.independent.ie/
http://www.irishexaminer.com/
http://www.irishtimes.com/
http://www.thestar.ie/
http://www.herald.ie/
http://www.independent.ie/
http://www.sundayworld.com/
http://www.businesspost.ie/
http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/fr/viewer.aspx (they don't even have a website, how funny)
http://www.farmersjournal.ie/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/
http://www.thesun.ie/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/
http://www.thesun.co.uk/

Most of them don't even have an irish dedicated website. They are pathetic. It's like passing a decree that makes people owing me $300 if they ever whisper my name in their car. There. Be warned.

Because there's only one item on any true iFan's wish list: I wish I wasn't overdrawn at the bank so I could put another iShiny on my credit card!

Amen! Unfortunately, it's also true of Android users at each software release since you generally get stuck on the outdated release your device came with. (The Nexus line being the shining light among exceptions)

Because there's only one item on any true iFan's wish list: I wish I wasn't overdrawn at the bank so I could put another iShiny on my credit card!

Aye, because unlike the Tea Party protesters and their corporate backers and media conglomerates with special interests, OWS hasn't singled out a political movement/activist group as its supposed mortal enemy and started compiling lists of every time a member of that enemy group goes to sleep, goes to the toilet, scratches his or her arse, and everything else in between. Of course you're going to document some of them smoking weed (etc.) if you're watching them like a hawk. You're also going to document particularly nasty things like murders, rapes, and assaults that happen in the area and are not, in fact, caused by the protest, as websites like that would have us believe.

If the Tea Party protests were subject to such unhealthy, obsessive scrutiny, I can guarantee that you would find a similar frequency of crimes documented.

Here's one example of that unhealthy interest, across the pond:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053463/Occupy-London-90-tents-St-Pauls-protest-camp-left-overnight.html

Looking through tents with heat-detecting cameras, FFS. If that isn't an unhealthy and chilling manifestation of the special interests of a media conglomerate, nothing is.

And for the record, "some of the protesters are committing petty crimes" is not a justification for clearing protests. It is unconscionable to support the silencing of either political movement.

Now could you look at knive/stabbing crimes and compare those:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/datablog/2012/apr/12/london-knife-crime

A Knife attack every 4 minutes:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036154/A-knife-attack-4-minutes-130-000-year--ministers-insist-crime-rates-falling.html

Sure is easy to always hit the terrorists when "militant" is defined as a non-infant male killed by drone.

http://voices.yahoo.com/report-obama-redefines-militant-avoid-counting-11403806.html

Any other bullshit you want to shovel asshole? You have blood on your hands by virtue of your blind suckage of the lies. That makes you an accessory to evil and as such, you deserve loathing just as the people pulling the trigger on "dogs" (the childlike two legged variety) in drone attacks deserve.

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2011/07/18/washingtons-untrue-claims-no-civilian-deaths-in-pakistan-drone-strikes/

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/pain-continues-after-war-for-american-drone-pilot-a-872726.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208307/Americas-deadly-double-tap-drone-attacks-killing-49-people-known-terrorist-Pakistan.html

Nice set of photos here, and the biggest hole I ever saw:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2253602/Antarctic-Lake-Ellsworth-project-called-British-team-forced-abandon-7m-project-drill-signs-life.html

Precisely Bruce Willi's point when he wants to leave his music collection to his daughters (computerworld, cnn dailymail yahoo).

What about Meccano? Maybe it's a Commonwealth thing, but when I was a kid, that was my go-to building toy. Now it's all Lego, Lego, Lego.

Example:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/15/article-1338800-0C670197000005DC-903_964x593.jpg

According to this 2009 Daily Fail article, Lego was down to under 3,000 unique pieces from the all-time highs reached in the late 90s and early 2000s period.

For fact-checking you'll need to refer to The Daily Mail or The Sun.

Or if this article has any merit...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1229857/How-16-ships-create-pollution-cars-world.html

We could stop shipping crap across the ocean, as it's apparently causing more pollution than all of our cars combined...

Mail Online link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2250548/Nasa-reveals-new-spacesuit--designed-fan-Buzz-Lightyear.html

Slashgear link: http://www.slashgear.com/nasa-testing-on-prototype-z-1-space-suit-is-complete-20261770/

HuffingtonPost U.K. link: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mobileweb/2012/12/21/nasa-new-space-suit-buzz-lightyear-toy-story_n_2343677.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Can we get some links from the Daily Mail please? As a UK citizen I don't think there's enough reactionary nonsense from the Daily Fail posted on slashdot as journalistic fact!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2251617/Video-mash-ups-song-parodies-legalised-just-long-funny.html

I'm sure some editors will be able to spin this as proof that the UK is somehow living in a mish-mash between 1984 and Mad Max.

On a more serious note, I'm amazed that our government would do something so sensible (especially in denying the "storage tax") merely 15 years too late, and since our governments of the last decade appear to be living out of the back pockets of the financial and entertainment industries, I'm wondering what other copyright reforms will be riding on the back of this. Call my cynical (or maybe reading too much sensationalist nonsense), but whenever I've seen a move for the better regarding copyright in the other first-world countries, it's always come with a whole shedload of "...just one more thing!" provisos, such as blank media taxes and three-strikes rules. Perhaps those will come up in the next few days and be buried over christmas...

Your ignorance is showing.
A 17 year old girl can get on the list for having consensual sex with a 15 year old boy:
http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2003101190_offender03.html

Two 14 year olds boys got put on the list for putting their naked butts on the faces of two 12 year old boys :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017081/Two-teenagers-branded-sex-offenders-life-horseplay-incident.html

You can get put on the list for answering the door undressed:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2887/is-it-indecent-exposure-if-im-visibly-naked-while-on-my-own-private-property

A few more dumb reasons for being put on the list:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/sex_offender_registry_stupidity/

In short, sex offender lists are being applied for anything having to do with nudity and on the other being used to justify barring people from anything to do with children. It's clearly bullshit but as most people don't pay attention to how laxist laws have become on placing people on the list they are easily swayed by prosecutors looking for a cheap & easy public display of how hard they are working.

And yet countries that ban ownership of assault rifles and handguns by the average person don't have these crimes. They just don't.

We need to be MORE like these countries, not less. We need to ban all assault rifles, and severely restrict the ownership of handguns. One per person, that's it, no more.

Yes because crazy people will stop if they can't find a gun. In China 22 children were stabbed recently. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248054/China-stabbing-22-children-elderly-woman-stabbed-outside-primary-school-Chinese-knifeman.html Don't forget the deadliest attacks in America did not involve guns (911 and Oklahoma City Bombings). I personally think one of the more dangerous substances currently sold to anyone in our country is gasoline. Cheap, highly flamable, explosive when contained, and it's available in VERY large quantity everywhere. So should we ban gasoline or should we work on the real problem, mental health?

Nail. Head.

The very MINUTE a celebrity turns 18 (sometimes even earlier), they're hung on the Daily Mail's wall of shame, often with a headline in the vein of: "Ooh! Look! Celebrity X is all grown up! Here's some hawt pix!!!".

You can practically hear the heavy breathing in articles like this where the young age of the actress is the focus of the article. Seems odd for a newspaper that claims to campaign against the sexualization and commercialization of childhood, right?

Then there's the straight up porn stories. I mean.. wtf?

Just have a scroll down the "FEMAIL" column on the right of any page. The "articles" listed there really say it all.

They're hypocritical bastards of the worst kind.

Nail. Head.

The very MINUTE a celebrity turns 18 (sometimes even earlier), they're hung on the Daily Mail's wall of shame, often with a headline in the vein of: "Ooh! Look! Celebrity X is all grown up! Here's some hawt pix!!!".

You can practically hear the heavy breathing in articles like this where the young age of the actress is the focus of the article. Seems odd for a newspaper that claims to campaign against the sexualization and commercialization of childhood, right?

Then there's the straight up porn stories. I mean.. wtf?

Just have a scroll down the "FEMAIL" column on the right of any page. The "articles" listed there really say it all.

They're hypocritical bastards of the worst kind.

If you read the Daily Mail article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250809/Victory-Mail-Children-WILL-protected-online-porn-Cameron-orders-sites-blocked-automatically.html you will find that the truth is that David Cameron "is backing alternative proposals to allow parents to tailor exactly what they can and cannot see". Sadly due to the continuing illiterate editing by the Daily Mail this was somehow equated to "Victory for the Mail! Children WILL be protected from online porn after Cameron orders automatic block on sites"

If only we could use this against the Daily Mail website.
It's filled with things that could be deemed porn.

If only we could use this against the Daily Mail website.
It's filled with things that could be deemed porn.

If only we could use this against the Daily Mail website.
It's filled with things that could be deemed porn.

If only we could use this against the Daily Mail website.
It's filled with things that could be deemed porn.

The only RAs in the story were to the previous announcement that has allegedly been overturned. The Daily Mail article that the story is about is here, though as it's the Daily Mail I take it with an emetic-scale pinch of salt.

This is a truly dipshitted comment. Cameron wrote the fucking article in the fucking Mail announcing the policy change. He's a twat.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250809/Victory-Mail-Children-WILL-protected-online-porn-Cameron-orders-sites-blocked-automatically.html

Bull. [...] Breaks can apply many times more force to the wheels than the engine.

Incorrect. Source.

I read a more in-depth report of the incident. Mr. Weir phoned the police, who suggested all of the things one would expect: turning off the engine, shifting to neutral, &c.

Mr. Weir was unable to stop the car using the foot brake alone, and only "just barely" managed to stop the car using both the handbrake *and* the foot brake *while* hopped up on adrenaline.

Anyone in worse physical shape than Mr. Weir (a 22-year old male) would have considerable difficulty stopping a vehicle under those circumstances.

Oh, and read the report: he was speeding for 30 minutes and had time to call the police. He didn't inadvertently have his foot on the gas.

This might indeed be bull, but I've got good evidence in support of my statements.

Do you have any idea how hard it is for people to get serious and effective mental health treatment? Half the medical insurance companies don't pay it or charge rediculous copays. For the government to do anything he would have to have been arrested and that usually leads to prison, not quality mental health care.

Lanza's father is a corporate executive. The kid grew up in a $1.6m home. His parents were well educated. Median household income in Newtown is $90000. These are well-off people in an affluent community.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248782/Adam-Lanza-How-classmates-remember-genius-turned-heartless-killer.html

If your comments show one thing, it is how people like you just fabricate facts to support their ideology. I find it sickening that you misuse a tragedy like this to push a political agenda.

The cause wasn't that the shooter played video games, the cause wasn't that the shooter had shot a gun before. The cause was that this guy seriously had some mental issues. You can't fix humanity.

Look at China, they've got some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. They've got censorship of nearly everything and yet this happens: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248054/China-stabbing-22-children-elderly-woman-stabbed-outside-primary-school-Chinese-knifeman.html

You've got to strike at the root cause which is the mental issues. Not guns, not knives, not baseball bats, not video games, not comic books, etc.

Seriously kid, stop watching fox, your bain is rotting away. Australia and Europe both got lower crime rates.

Rather bad news, I'm afraid, it seems that the rot has got you as well.

UK is violent crime capital of Europe - 02 Jul 2009

The figures were sourced from Eurostat, the European Commission's database of statistics. They are gathered using official sources in the countries concerned such as the national statistics office, the national prison administration, ministries of the interior or justice, and police.

A breakdown of the statistics, which were compiled into league tables by the Conservatives, revealed that violent crime in the UK had increased from 652,974 offences in 1998 to more than 1.15 million crimes in 2007.

It means there are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the UK, making it the most violent place in Europe.

Austria is second, with a rate of 1,677 per 100,000 people, followed by Sweden, Belgium, Finland and Holland.

By comparison, America has an estimated rate of 466 violent crimes per 100,000 population.

France recorded 324,765 violent crimes in 2007 – a 67 per cent increase in the past decade – at a rate of 504 per 100,000 population.

The Home Office says there has been a downtrend in overall violence for the past decade.

But last October it emerged that levels of violent crime in England and Wales had been underestimated for more than a decade because of a blunder in recording methods.

Regarding Australia:

Violent crime statistics

Recorded assault increased again in 2007, to 840 per 100,000, compared with 623 per 100,000 in 1996. The 2007 rate was the highest recorded since 1996.

AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Since it "can't happen" . . .
Gun crimes soaring despite ban brought in following Dunblane - 15 Jul 2001

THE controversial ban on the ownership of handguns which was introduced after the Dunblane massacre has failed to halt an increasing number of crimes involving firearms.

An independent report, Illegal Firearms in the UK, to be published by the Centre for Defence Studies at King's College in London tomorrow, says that handguns were used in 3,685 offences last year compared with 2,648 in 1997, an increase of 40 per cent.

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade - 27 October 2009

Here try this data: Murder rates world wide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Please not the very high rates of murder in countries that ban guns. Also, look at violent crime rates. Just because guns are banned does not mean people don't find another weapon to use. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

To stop all of this you'd have to ban people.

Realize that politics and sociology of most businesses makes such embarrassments a very high priority to resolve, especially if they're chump change to the organization in question. http://macwhiz.com/blog/art-of-turboing/

Just be careful not to get the receptionist's blood on your hand...

So I was correct, the mother of the killer collected the guns and taught the sons how to shoot. So your proposal that the guns were for the kids is wrong, she got the guns legally even though Connecticut is the toughest state in USA to get guns (in terms of laws).

This is not about guns clearly, this is about mental problems. If the guy wanted to kill all those people, all he needed was a ton of fertiliser and some gasoline, which is how others killed more people than 27, though some try to kill with knives and are not as successful in their mission (as in they are not as deadly, but only by luck).

So I was correct, the mother of the killer collected the guns and taught the sons how to shoot. So your proposal that the guns were for the kids is wrong, she got the guns legally even though Connecticut is the toughest state in USA to get guns (in terms of laws).

This is not about guns clearly, this is about mental problems. If the guy wanted to kill all those people, all he needed was a ton of fertiliser and some gasoline, which is how others killed more people than 27, though some try to kill with knives and are not as successful in their mission (as in they are not as deadly, but only by luck).

I don't believe this is a correct "interpretation" of the message, as it is too generic. Nothing contained in the message is of any use whatsoever. "Hit Jerry’s right or reserve battery here", "Troops, panzers, batteries, engineers, here", "Counter measures against panzers not working", "Go over field notes", "Found headquarters infantry right here"

What good is any of that? Where is "here"? There would have to be precise coordinates or grid numbers to indicate exactly what is where.

The other question is where would the pigeon be delivering this message to? All the way back to some headquarters in Britain is where. In that case the context of the message is even less useful, especially considering there would be a several hour delay before the message could be delivered all the way from France to Britain.

More information on these sites, includes the various "decoded" phrases.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/16/world-war-2-pigeon-code-cracked_n_2311364.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248818/Hit-Jerrys-panzers--code-dead-wartime-pigeon-cracked.html

Compare the UK to the US.

Ok. The violent crime rate in England is higher than it is in South Africa. Switzerland has a private gun ownership rate over half that of the US (note not counting the government issue rifles) and yet "the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept."

So yeah, it's all about gun control laws.

If you want "hard data"

hard data. Strange that the violent crime rate in the US is lower than Sweden's or Canada's. It'd be interesting to see differences in reporting statics.

It depends how you look at it.
In Australia you have an older population. When younger they where exposed to heavy industry, farming, transport over many years.
Mining, electrical, ship building, trams, busses, home building, cloth dying, pest control would be the classics.
Then you have exotic metals been moved down ducts - an example with a small jet with an AC issue. Staff would be feeling ill, not walking in a safe manner. The press LOL at reports - drunk. Heavy metal exposure will mean early and painful deaths.
Daddy worked in a mine, shipyard, electrical work, earning good cash, walked home covered in "dust", kids come running - nice welcome home hug.
Just as they are parents - 30-40 y later a slight cough sets in. Expert wants to know what they did to their lungs, explores family history, interviews father.
Another early and very painful death.
Solvent components used my the military are another interesting one. Drug, nuclear and gas testing during national service?
What will medical care look like :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/04/ann-clwyd-husband-died-hen
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240075/Now-sick-babies-death-pathway-Doctors-haunting-testimony-reveals-children-end-life-plan.html
My thoughts are if you have US style insurance, work cover, war veterans cover (personal or from marriage) you will be kept alive for some cast flow to the hospital/care home.
You will be well treated with the best of personal care and tech. Drugs will be will tracked and corrected. Your billing codes pay the bills and a bit extra.
If your pension or cover is pulled - then your in for a ride.
Less drugs, less dr visits, longer waits -12, 24h before some form of care. That will add up. Late to hospital, a long wait, rushed staff...
A nice empty bed in months.

But that does not mean that they would still be alive

Right because would never have been able to kill as many people if he didn't have a gun....wait, he didn't have a gun.

Right because if he didn't have access to a gun, he could never have done this...Oh wait this guy used a knife to kill 23 people at a school.

so know illegal aliens getting arrested for blocking traffic is the same as jailing someone for posting something some peoples club considers offensive?

*winces at the bad english* Freedom of expression must have a very different definition in your world.

your violent crime examples of homicides, not violent crime. Of course, rape and violence on women is rarely reported, and even less frequently documented. so you link is less facts and more half truth.

Yeah, what was I thinking, using the most reported and documented violent crime as a baseline reference? Silly me.

The crime rate was low in Germany During the Nazi regime. Is that really an argument that Nazi Germans is better then the US, or any country?

You Godwin'd yourself. But ignoring that, there's about 11 million dead Jews and political prisoners that would disagree about the crime rate. But you know, other than that, there's also the problem of there not being any statistics on the crime rate or population of the Third Reich for the past 67 years.

That said, I suspect that there rate of imprisonment is lower then the US. The USs prison increase is doe toy the privatization of prisons.

Every time you post something to the internet, God kills a dictionary. The ownership of our prisons has as much relationship to the reasons why so many are jailed each year as your literary shortcomings do to the number of books Amazon sells each year.

the truth is, they aren't better. All your metrics ignore what life is like for over half their population.

I will admit I have more confidence that the CIA, the United Nations, The Harvard Institute of Law, and a handful of major news outlets got the numbers right than I do in a person on the internet literary abilities of a fifth grader, who is backing up his argument with no citations, logical reasoning, or even an anecdotal story.

However our country can, and has many times, changed without needing a revolution.

I'm skeptical of this claim that stuff has happened many times. I don't think stuff happens many times. In fact, I'd even go as far as to call myself a stuff skeptic. I'm going to need a citation from you that the country has done stuff, and that this stuff has happened many times. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof, you know.

We do live in a country where you can have a different house of worship on each corner at an intersect and nothing violent happens.

Can I suggest you open a newspaper someday?

Not sure if there would be time to deploy the military shuttle thing...

By amazing coincidence, they just launched the "military shuttle thing" -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2246629/U-S-military-sends-mystery-space-drone-orbit---STILL-wont-tell-mission-be.html