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he is talking about this:

http://www.todd.demon.co.uk/encyc/million.htm

british billion != american billion

so that tower is REALLY expensive!

If you haven't checked out the Critical Dates link, it's fascinating (if somewhat repetitve) reading. Just think! Someone actually figured out that, on Tuesday, January 1, 29602, NTFS fails! I'm thinking, if you're stilling using NTFS in 27,000 years, you're probably gonna get what's coming to you.

probably something to do with the trolling bible coming to public attention.

matt

I take it back. I said elsewhere you were possibly ignorant or naive; but clearly you are just a troll. No one could be so ignorant of their own history to not know of indentured servitude or slavery on their own soil. Slavery was not abolished in England until 1833 Link. You get a 30 year lead there- which, on the grand scale of history, isn't much. And there was a great deal of fuss about it... sure, no civil war, but only because the numbers were smaller and the economy less dependent on them.

White women in Britain couldn't vote until 1918 and for 10 years after that only women who owned property or were married to men of property were allowed to vote. Universal female suffrage happened here in 1920. Either we are two years worse or eight years better- take your pick.

And, of course, you have to know whose idea property based suffrage was. It's not like British settlers arrived from enlightened England, bumped into classist Native Americans, and said "gee, how silly it was of us to give suffrage to everyone back in the old country. Here, only those with property will vote." Like many of our other good and bad ideas, the Brits had it first, and had had it for a lot longer than we did. As late as 1884, if you worked on a farm, you couldn't vote in the UK. True general suffrage was not granted until 1928. Legally speaking, the US wins by 59 years here (though obviously blacks were practically barred for another 100 years.)

As far as the reasons for revolt... sure, taxes were a huge reason. But if the British Government had actually given the Colonies seats in Parliament instead of opening fire on protesters, maybe we might have stuck around. Maybe India might have done the same if you hadn't tortured and arrested people who wanted the right to make their own salt. And let's not get into South Africa.

Look, America has a pretty dreadful history. But it is clear that you are just trolling when you are so willfully ignorant of your own history. Go back in your hole.
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http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/nation

For most US readers, I'd suggest searching for Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, or UK radio stations or just listen to blazznet: http://www.bmbient.demon.co.uk/blazznet/index.htm

I have a very small mind and must live with it.

Also, check out this page. It's much more general (replies to stuff that wasn't brought up in the Fox special).

Actually, while your at it, check out this site, which reveals that the existence of the moon itself is just a conspiracy! (Yes, it's a spoof).

Actually there are several driving techniques sites. Here are a few:

Drivers Club

Bootlegger turn

The Chronicle's list of driving related sites

"Ad hominem" means "to the man" -- attacking the messenger instead of the message, which I did not do.

Funny, that snide little "Have your atheist card? cause you spout the party line pretty good" sure as hell didn't look like any kind of attack on my message to me.

Whoa. Let's leave the goalposts in one place, shall we? We can't blame atheism for Stalin just because Stalin was atheist; however, World War II was all the pope's fault just because Hitler was Catholic. Yup -- works for me. Not.

Cute. Quoting me out of context. Here, let me quote the next part of that:

"As for the Holocaust, Hitler was Catholic (thus had been taught by church leaders for years that the Jews were evil), "

The fact that he was Catholic means that his church had been teaching him for years that the Jews were evil. See how that works? Hitler's being Catholic actually has, like, relevance, ya know what I mean?

Additionally, I never said that the Pope was responsible for World War II. (Though his extensive support of of the Nazi and Fascist regimes didn't exactly prevent it.) What I said was that Catholicism was one of the main instigators of the attempted extermination of the Jews. Try responding to what I actually said, OK?

Well, which is it? "Killed in the name of religion" is a fairly clear target, but "a result of religious teachings" is way too self-servingly
ambiguous to be of practical use, as you proceed to demonstrate.

Really? I'd say it's pretty obvious. When an organized religion (Catholicism, for example) goes out of its way to prevent the dissemination
of information and proceeds to spread false information in its place, then I'd have to say that that religion is at fault for any deaths caused by this. I'd also have to say that when a religion says that an act is EVIL and should be punishable by death (homosexuality, for example), and then, following that teaching, someone (a group of rednecks with a pickup, say, or maybe a short guy with a bad mustache) proceeds to do what they've been told by their religious leaders, then maybe their religion is responsible?

It's actually pretty damn obvious (at least to people who don't practice fuzzy thinking, and aren't trying to confuse the issue) when religious
teachings caused death.

It is true that nearly six million Jews were exterminated during the Holocaust. It is equally true that more than five million non-Jews lost
their lives. The man who, on August 22, 1939, mustered his stormtroopers to kill "without pity or mercy, all men, women, and children of Polish descent" was a racist, not a religious bigot.

Uh, dude? Being a racist doesn't mean you're not a religious bigot. Hitler was both.

And yes, somewhat less than half the Holocaust's victims were non-Jews. However, somewhat more than half *were* Jews, and Jews did not make up anywhere near half of the population of the areas the Nazis deported people from. Instead, they were *singled out because of their religion* for
extermination. Homosexuals were singled out because they offended Hitler's religious sensibilities. The rest offended Hitler politically, or were unfortunate enough to be of the wrong race.

Numbers for the two world wars are easy enough to come by: the Great War, 8.5 million military and perhaps 6 million civilian; the Second, 55 million; if you throw in the 26 million who died in the Spanish Flu epidemic (which I'm sure you'll think of some way to blame on religion) that swept the world in the aftermath of WWI, the total stands in the vicinity 96 million.

As for the Crusades, numbers are nearly impossible to guess, but the great British historian Wertham estimates the casualties at approximately 1 million. Pitirim Sorokin, on the other hand, estimated that Europeans lost some 435,000 men on all battlefields between 900 and 1450.

Even if we accept Wertham's higher numbers for the Crusades, still the two world wars did not simply kill more people than the Crusades, they exceeded the Crusades by nearly two full orders of magnitude.

Congratulations on one of the most impressive pieces of intellectual dishonesty I've seen lately! One the one hand, you're including military and civilian casualties from all sides of the wars, as well as the people killed by a plague whose severity was made worse by a war. On the other side, you're including ONLY military casualties from ONE side of the war. Man, if there was an award, you'd be up for it.

Since I can't find any information on civilian casualties during the Crusades, let's compare military casualties.

WWI military casualties: 8.5 million
WWII military casualties: Approximately 18 million
Crusades military casulaties: Let's double your low-end one-side figure and go with 900,000.

So, yes, I was wrong. However, it's not even CLOSE to your alleged "couple orders of magnitude."

And as to the "Inquisition", if we presume you mean the Spanish Inquisition (which is the one most of those who don't know any better have
in mind), Juan Antonio Llorente, General Secretary of the Inquisition from 1789 to 1801, estimated that 31,912 people were executed between 1480-1808. Historian Will Durant, on the other hand, lends his weight to much lower numbers, in the vicinity of 2,000 burned between 1480 and 1504, and another 2,000 between 1504 and 1758, for a total of 4,000 burnings during the
254-year span of the Spanish Inquisition, or a rate of less than two a month.

First off, as a matter of fact, I'm talking about ALL the inquisitions carried out in Europe, Western and Eastern, by Protestants, Catholics, and Eastern Orthodox. Might try leaving out some of the unwarranted assumptions you've been making here. Second, the Inquisition didn't just confine itself to burning people to death (which is what Llorente's figure actually was as well; the number of burnings, not the number of deaths). A LOT of people died under torture, or were executed in other ways. Finally, by 1808 the Inquisition was no longer in such wonderful repute, and it would be in their best interests to fudge the numbers downwards. In short, you've misinterpreted both sources, and I don't trust one.

In addition, the Spanish Inquisition was active well before 1480.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to dig up aggregate number I trust; everything I found was biased in one direction or the other. They ranged between 20 and 68 million. (Highball estimate was on a fundie christian website, incidentally. So you can skip your beloved "athiest fanatic" accusations on this one.)

I begin to wonder if you even know the meaning of the word "cause".

Well whaddya know! Another contentless ad hominem attack!

Yes, "how many" and "how much", indeed. Tell you what -- when you can provide me with something more than the idle machinations of an overactive imagination, we'll talk. Until then, all you've managed to do is bandy about some wild, half-baked speculations without attempting even a modicum of factual support. As you said yourself, simply saying something don't make it true.

Uh, dude? That, like, wasn't the point here. You're pointing out things which you believe are unrelated to religion. I'm pointing out that religious teachings CAN AND HAVE made them worse than they would would have been without organized religion spewing crap, and that they are, therefore, at least as closely connected to religion as the Spanish Flu was to WWI. Exactly how much worse? Well, given that my alternate-dimension teleporter's on the fritz today, I really don't know.


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Does that mean it will run Zork III?

z-machine spec

The obvious next step of course is to staple peril sensitive sunglasses onto your face so you don't have to find out where they have already installed the V-chip...

Paul

For a list of numbers take a look at http://www.todd.demon.co.uk/encyc/million.htm, which compares british and US usage.

it seems thought that today most people use the american billions (though this arguably is a less sensible system), but as long as we're not starting to quote pressures in psi or some equally silly unit i'm happy....

• http://www.chem.uci.edu/education/undergrad_pgm/ap plets/bounce/demon.htm
• http://www.maxwellian.demon.co.uk/name.html
• http://musr.physics.ubc.ca/~jess/hr/skept/Weird/no de1.html

Check those out, and if that's not enough, just do a search for "maxwell's demon" or a similar phrase.

Max, in America, it's customary to drive on the right.

I use it as my default shell everywhere I work, on both NT and Unix. Here's some of the features that I love:

Programmable Completion
You can define completion for different commands in different ways. eg.
ping/telnet completes with the list of machines on my network
man completes with my man pages
kill completes with job numbers

java completes with all my available Java classes (I have to provide a Perl utility to help with this (classfind) though)

Recursive and intelligent wildcarding
ls **/* completes through directories, subdirectories and the like. I never really have to use find anymore
ls **/*(ah-5) finds files accessed within the last 5 hours
ls **/*(L0) finds files of zero length
ls **/*(@) finds symbolic links
etc.

Jerry Peek has quizzed the Zsh mailing lists for info so he can write about it in the next Unix Power Tools. Hopefully Zsh's profile will be raised somewhat.

For those interested in the challenges of really long term preservation, check out the Long Now Foundation, who are building a variety of interesting projects, including a 10,000-year clock (designed by ubergeek Danny Hillis) and an updated version of the Rosetta Stone. I've seen these pieces in person, and they're very cool.

For the clock, they mention they are using "Monel alloy, Invar alloy, tungsten carbide, metallic glass, and synthetic sapphire" in the prototype.

The DPA specifically excludes creative works. Any camera owner can refuse to hand over footage of creative works.

From the DPA CCTV guidelines (Introduction), actually linked from the Mark Thomas website (for fuck's sake, he obviously hasn't even bothered to read the DPA guidelines linked from his own site):

It is not intended that the contents of this Code should apply to: -
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Use of cameras and similar equipment by the broadcast media for the purposes of journalism, or for artistic or literary purposes.

Document is here (MS Word) and is linked from this page on Mark's own site about a third of the way down, link entitled "CCTV Code of Practice guidelines".

Mark Thomas' journalism is purile schoolboy smart-arse childishness of the most pathetic kind. He constantly claims to be fighting The Man but invariably his shows revolve around taking the piss out of some poor doorman, security guard or receptionist on minimum wage. Mark just makes easy jokes about headlines and never actually bothers to read the small print, as this cock-up demonstrates.

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Whatever your take on CCTV and the whole privacy issue, Mark Thomas' (British comic, bit like Michael Moore for all you State-side folks) recent take on the issue was interesting.
Seems CCTV footage is now covered by the UK Data Protection Act, which means that, for a nominal fee (ten pounds in most cases) the owners/operators of the cameras have to release any footage they might have of you.

Mark's taken this to the obvious conclusion by hosting a competition for the most creative short film captured via CCTV and obtained via the DPA. Details here.

As to whether CCTV is a good thing or not, I'm still sitting on the fence on the issue I must admit. Key point seems to be how the use/availability of any captured film is regulated and policed, but you're probably looking at cases on a site by site basis, which naturally makes it very hard to administrate.

Could Slashdot readers reply to this and tell me if they can tell the difference between MP3s and CDs?

It's gotten so that the only things I use MP3 for are old AM radio shows and Napster downloads of rare demo stuff that's already sonically degraded prior to the MP3 encoding process.

LINUX IS NOT READY FOR GAMES, not yet. Name a game that you can just install and start playing without touching any config files.

Once you have the Allegro library installed from source tarball (./configure; make depend; make; su -c make install), you can run any free Allegro game such as freepuzzlearena, TOD, or scores of others. There are also emulators to run other platforms' games (such as TuxNES and SNES9x).

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Incase you're wondering about Sealand, here is the official website. For pictures, look at their old website.
If you ask me, it looks like a raft on stilts rather than a sovereign territory, but hey. To each his own. {=)

Incase you're wondering about Sealand, here is the official website. For pictures, look at their old website.
If you ask me, it looks like a raft on stilts rather than a sovereign territory, but hey. To each his own. {=)

Should there be clause added to the GPL and other open licenses that prohibits jerks like movie studios from benefitting from the same process they try to destroy?

I suggested this to Richard Stallman last year. (Here's my proposal). However, he was against the proposal, as it stood.

The EU's doing the same thing. See my page about the new EU copyright law.

It would probably be advisable, whatever else is done in the universally decodable encoding scheme, to come to a better understanding of the relationship between the combinatorial heirarchy and the physical coupling constants of the universe before settling on a core encoding scheme.

My argument is at the most basic root of anything is an assumption (Something taken for granted or accepted as true without proof. Close enough to Faith I believe to use interchangeably).

*sigh*. You batter the same old argument that's been raging for centuries. Theologists do not base their arguments on material evidence. Scientists only base their arguments on material evidence. When the two clash, the theologists hypocritically accuse the scientists of lacking evidence. The argument goes that because nothing evidence can be known to be 100%, it is therefore wrong to base any judgements on evidence, and instead work in cloud-cuckoo land with 0% accurate evidence. This is the essense of faith - lack of evidence, lack of logic. However, science does not claim that evidence is 100% accurate, in fact they generally work out their margin of error as a matter of course.

This all boils down to the subjective vs objective argument. For example, let's have 100 people look at an alledged tree in a forest. 99 subjectively percieve the tree, but one person does not. Is the tree there? It is 99% likely that the tree is there. It depends on the levels of skepticism and pedantry, but it would generally be agreed that the objective viewpoint is that the tree is there, even though all evidence was collected subjectively. That's enough to convince scientists, but anything less than 100% is not going to convince a fundamentalist theologian, who would rather believe the 0% accurate claims of his religion.

But what material proof do you have that you're simply not dreaming the whole thing, or delusional? My contention: none. You merely assume so.

Why stop there? Are you just a brain in a jar?.

this seems to me a perfect opportunity

no one with any sense will trust the silicon from a vendor without having it peer reviewed

there are notes on how OpenBSD would not like to trust IBM crypto accelerator (for ssl and such) because the RSA,FBI,MI5 and various three letter agencies might have tampered with it

why not do an add in for a SOC solution based on the AMBA bus
the Leon is a good example of a LGPL core

my page on it
http://www.mischevouslittle.demon.co.uk/hardware/s parc/index.html

why not do this for AES ?

regards

john jones

But TrueType (an Apple/Microsoft venture) came standard with Windows 3.1 first.

TrueType is an Apple invention. It is NOT an Apple/MS joint venture. You are thinking of a technology swap: Apple's TrueType for Microsoft's PostScript interpreter. TrueType has been a standard part of MacOS since version 7.0 (which comes after Win 3.0 but before 3.1), but it also works with 6.0.x.

For more information, see A Brief History of TrueType. For even more information, see A History of TrueType.

I've built gnome for Solaris 2.6 using Paul Barnfather's excellent instructions found here

Have fun!

This URL seems to address all of the stupidities of the 'Apollo Hoax' nutters. Take a look.

I find it worrying that 4% of the population of the "Last Superpower" don't just believe in UFOs, they beleive they've been abducted by one.

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

Note that adding "target = _blank" to your HTML tag will not work on /., though I wish it did.

I found a good site that explains in detail why NASA really did land on the moon for real. It is http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/. It also has a page set-up to anwser people's questions about the FOX tv show that was on. It is a very good site, and after reading it you would have to be really stupid to still believe that the Apollo 11 landing was a hoax.

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Since the engines are just technologies and the identity of the game lies in the way these technologies are put to use, everyting that could be made into an engine/library should, so it can be shared and improved upon. But the actual game code could be closed and sold along with the data as a game (or it could, ofcourse, all be open). The game code is probaly not even interesting if you got all the suporting libraries. If you wanted to know how to use one the libraries you could look at the library code or perhaps they'd even have good documentation (Allegro is a good example). And all that was left to look at in the game code was the actual game and then you'd just be making a copy of the game instead of some original content. Well maybe I'm just rambling off again. I can't stay focused, I'm tired, good night.

Since the engines are just technologies and the identity of the game lies in the way these technologies are put to use, everyting that could be made into an engine/library should, so it can be shared and improved upon. But the actual game code could be closed and sold along with the data as a game (or it could, ofcourse, all be open). The game code is probaly not even interesting if you got all the suporting libraries. If you wanted to know how to use one the libraries you could look at the library code or perhaps they'd even have good documentation (Allegro is a good example). And all that was left to look at in the game code was the actual game and then you'd just be making a copy of the game instead of some original content. Well maybe I'm just rambling off again. I can't stay focused, I'm tired, good night.

This is a huge area of research that has been active for at least the past 15 years. See A Theory of Objects for a taste.

Celeron 533Mhz (basically the best I could fit on my existing PII mobo)

128MB RAM

40GB ATA/100 (running at 33 :( ) HDD, 7200RPM

ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder

Logitech AST Remote - to control mouse/applications

Software to control mouse is Girder. (It's awesome)

Black desktop ATX case

Black wireless keyboard/trackball (Compaq)

Running Win98 (Radeon can't output digital audio thru SPDIF in 2000 yet)

Creative Labs MP3+ 5.1

Cheapo black DVD-ROM drive

100Mbps ethernet

It generally performs very well. I use it for DVD (only in a secondary capacity, my regular DVD player is superior and I laugh at anyone who claims their PC's DVD player does a better job than a decent component DVD player), MP3 (primarily the reason I built it), watching MPG1/2/DivX movies and VCDs. It can also act as a WebTV in a pinch, though it's running at 800x600 and the text can get hard to read, even when set at largest font.

I do have some issues with the Radeon card (besides the exorbitant price) - it does straight-to-MPEG2 capture, which is nice, but it doesn't enforce a/v synching, which isn't usually an issue until I decide to compress to DivX. Then you usually need to fire up something like AVI Info to correct the problem. I bought the Radeon because it comes with some TV-Guide type software to control listings and recording, but in my experience, it's not really worth it. From what I hear, the ATI AIW 32 is a better card for straight PVR uses.

Just my $0.02.

What ever happened to the VESA video card standards? Its about time we get a VESA3 out folks, as it is though, few new cards are even VESA2 complient

There already is VESA 3 VBE/AF; here's a few free VBE/AF drivers, and here are some you have to pay for.

OK, I can see this is all well and good for the big five record companies. But what about the rest of us?
I make my own tracks. Before with Napster I connected and I shared them. Now Napster are going to be charging a fee for me to share my tracks, and furthermore they're going to be making money by charing other people to listen to them! Does this in any way strike anyone as injust??

I'll be emailing Napster to enquire as to exactly how they intend to resolve this issue. If I had money for lawyers, I reckon I might actually have a pretty decent case, because they've set a precedent by paying other artists.
But then of course the question arises: how much are they going to pay everyone? They could, I suppose, pay per search request (they can't tell when someone connects to download at present). But how do you link searches to particular tracks? Filenames are pretty meaningless.
There are a hell of a lot of issues that need to be worked out here.

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What if it were shown that the increase in random murders, resulting from disarmament of the honest citizen, far outweighed the number of those killed in shocking but vanishingly rare massacre incidents? This has been fairly conclusively proven in the US, and I think it is true for Britain as well.

When my dad was born, anyone could buy a pistol licence in the post office for four pounds, and the only people in the land who could not carry guns were the police. The various gun laws have always been promoted on the grounds of crime prevention, but over the years they seem to have been enacted primarily as a result of the Government's fear of Bolsheviks, Irish republicans, anarchists, and the like.

In actual fact violent crime has increased by orders of magnitude since the days when any honest Englishman could carry a revolver, and in particular the spectacular massacres-by-nutter, which were unheard of before gun control.

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There is a guy here in the UK called J. Michael (I forget his first name) who has been trying to sell something he calls "fractal robotics" for years. The whole thing is a big joke in the robotics industry as he's yet to demonstrate any actual working hardware despite often claiming that he has received large amounts of investment from respected companies and that fractal robotics is "the next big thing" which will revolutionise agriculture, space exporation, construction, etc. For a while at least, he used to regularly troll comp.robotics.misc and uk.misc with lengthy articles about how NASA is digging it's own grave by refusing to invest in his company. He even got published in a hobbyist electronics magazine several years ago. He has a web site where you can see obviously fake video clips of a "prototype fractal robot" in operation and read lots of propaganda.

The KDE2 packages are still being worked on by Nick Hudson. For now, you'll have to live with binary packages of KDE 1.1.2, or for the daring, you can try the beta packages of KDE2 at the following URL: http://www.nthcliff.demon.co.uk/NetBSD/KDE2/index. html

Actually, if you hop on IRC (#LFS on irc.linuxfromscratch.org) and talk to a few of us, we allready have machines running ALFS... You can download most of the code from CVS and try it out, we are getting there, i just got back from visiting family and friends (a hole whopping two weeks, i feel so disconnected :) so i have some catching up todo, but i'll be reworking the CVS archive, as we have an influcs of new developers and volunteers, it's great =)

PS, ALFS does work right now, it doesn't have a fancy interface like what is planned but it is usable to an extent, btw there are other implementations that were started when we first were talking about using XML with ALFS, one is Richard Lightmans RALFS and Rod Roark LFSMake

Part of the problem is that there are a lot more assholes who delight in destroying newsgroups and filling them up with garbage.

One of these characters is Gary Burnore. Some of you San Francisco Bay Area people might remember him as one who managed to piss off most of the ISPs around there and anyone heavily involved in database management. More of you might remember him as the one who harassed Jeff Burchell into shutting down the Huge Cajones anonymous remailer because someone fingered him for child molestation; a change for which he was subsequently convicted. In revenge, he had his now wife impersonate a lawyer to get the nonexistant logs of Huge Cajones shortly after Helena Kobrin harassed Jeff to get the same nonexistant logs. Jeff shut the remailer because of this.

Gary violated probation by leaving California for Raleigh, NC where he offers network services primarily to trolls, flooders, spammers, and other vandals and shields them from complaints. He and his syncophants have been known to threaten lawsuits, make physical threats, launch denial of service attacks, and make up stories to get critics kicked off their ISPs.

Usenet is attracting many more psychopaths just like Gary. They don't care how many people they piss off, nor are they concerned about possible legal consequences or retaliations.

Desert Rat

In a statement released earlier today, scientists stated that due to a clerical error, the message had been compiled with a missing page without which, none of the message would make any sense to any alien trying to decipher it. That lost message can be viewed here

I am sorry not to agree with you.
I have designed dozen of websites and targetted my hand-made code to my test browser.
I actually saw many differences according to the visitor's web browser except in one case : Fresco is a web browser aimed at RiscOS platforms.
Whenever optimizing my code too look properly on it, it usually looked the same on all the popular browsers.
Bottom lines : neither java nor javascript, nor SSL but in this case you can still choose another popular RiscOS browser such as Webster
Maybe there is a need for web developpers to learn to code in standard HTML, especially when I see the crap generated by most HTML-generators (yuk :-( ), which is only aimed at *one* browser (e.g. MSIE for Frontpage, NS for NS-editor, etc.).
Finally, Fresco was developped for Oracle's Network Computer, which first prototypes were developped by Acorn.
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USA:
000 000 = million
000 000 000 = billion
000 000 000 000 = trillion

Netherlands, and from this page I see that we use the official SI standards:
000 000 = million
000 000 000 = milliard
000 000 000 000 = billion
000 000 000 000 000 = billiard
000 000 000 000 000 000 = trillion

There IS a difference between the American way of counting and the official way of counting. The fact that UK citizens are stupid enough to embrace the US version doesn't make that difference go away.

Yep, it's true. Here's one link I know of which explains this phenomenon: A concise reference to the Metric System (SI)

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You give the impression that nethack is not under active developement, version 3.3.1 came out rather recently. It can be found at http://www.nethack.org. Other roguelikes worth mentioning are ADOM (don't worry, he's better at designing a game then a website), and Angband. There are several derivatives of Angband and Nethack, while ADOM is closed source. A good list of other roguelike games (with links) is available at http://www.skoardy.demon.co.uk/rlnews/links.html. All of the popular roguelikes and most of the rest have linux binaries, and the source code is often available too! Nethack is even released under the GPL license.

The other side of text-based gaming are text-based MUDs, a nice list of them can be found at The Mud Connector.

The article also fails to mention that there is a free version of civilization that will run on Linux and has multi-player capability. Check out www.freeciv.org for information and downloads.

I used ElectricFence, mainly because I happened to already have it installed. It helped. There are a bunch of others, some of them look interesting:

MallocDebug
Thu Dec 21 13:26:01 CST 2000 - overview of malloc debugging
tools. looks good.

mpatrol
Thu Dec 21 13:37:30 CST 2000 - didn't try it out,
but the documentation actually lists
"related software", which indicates to me they did their
reseach.

glibc builtin
Thu Dec 21 13:43:54 CST 2000 - evidently glibc has debugging
stuff built-in.

Join the Mars Society. Philip Dembo, the chairman, is conducting a drive to mobilize support. Make sure this project isn't canned like some others; governments can be fickle, and the funding might not be there tomorrow (just ask the folks at the supercollider). And when you leave, make sure you stop at the giftshop and buy something -- 5% of proceeds go towards helping conquer Mars.

yea i get that too, i go into theta everytime i hear white noise..

but then i bet it's from using SBaGen every night.


nmarshall

The law is that which it boldly asserted and plausibly maintained..