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  1. Re:VIC-20 Patch by shepd · · Score: 1 · on MS Exec: 'Our products just aren't engineered for security'

    >... I'm glad I'm using something so obselete that not only does it not need a patch, you couldn't apply one to it to begin with.

    Don't you wish...

  2. ISODE/quipu by sohp · · Score: 4, Informative · on Open Source X.500 Directory Projects?

    A couple of search terms that you'd never come up with if you weren't already steep in the the arcane x.500 world: ISODE and quipu.

    Most of this stuff comes out of and is maintained in Europe. As the RFC 1330 says,
    "The ISODE is not proprietary, but it is not in the public
    domain. This was necessary to include a "hold harmless"
    clause in the release. The upshot of all this is that anyone
    can get a copy of the release and do anything they want with
    it, but no one takes any responsibility whatsoever for any
    (mis)use."

    You can still find the latest downloads via FUNET.

    Be aware, this stuff is a major effort to compile and get working. It's big and complex, but well documented. Have fun, and let me know when you get dish -user "@c=$(COUNTRY)@o=ORG@cn=Manager" to give you a prompt.

  3. mirrors by country... by neo8750 · · Score: 4, Informative · on Mozilla 1.1 Beta Out And About
    lets be nice to the main site! .at .au .be .bg .ca .ch .com/.net/.org/.edu .cz .de .dk .ee .es .fi .fr .gr .hk .hu .ie .il .jp .kr .no .pl .pt .ru .se .sg .sk .tw .uk
  4. Re:Well done to the team (again) but.. by ianezz · · Score: 2 · on Mozilla 1.1 Alpha Released
    And even the smart ones can get lazy and include a feature just to make life easier or because they forget that "export VAR=value" is just fine in ksh/bash, but not sh.

    Fine for ksh and bash, but not sh? It doesn't seem so looking at the Posix 1003.2 draft:

    3.14.8 export - Set export attribute for variables

    export name[=word]...
    export -p
  5. Re:alt.gourmand and the USENET Cookbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative · on Geek Food: A Cookbook for the Technologically Inclined

    Well, THAT brings back memories...

    You've got two options:

    1. I found an online version of it here.

    2. If you really want to recapture the "old school" experience, you can get the original troff sources here - but then you have to go to Finland to find the "recipes" macro package that you need to process them successfully.

  6. Mimic functions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Peter Wayner Interviews Lawrence Lessig

    Not only is Peter Wayner an author, but he's the inventor of one of the most underrated stegonagraphic methods: Mimic Functions
    Using Mimic Functions one can esentially hide information as _anything_, assuming you've defined a good enough grammar.

  7. Earliest Linux Link by _J_ · · Score: 1 · on Great points in Usenet history

    Although I'm not a big Linux guy this link - http://www.funet.fi/pub/OS/Linux/ - was still up from the earliest archived linux post from Thorvalds. It just refers you to a more updated link but still....

    IMHO, as per

    J:)

  8. Firewalling universities a big problem by magi · · Score: 4, Insightful · on Peer-to-Peer for Academia

    I'd be more worried about the tendency of some universities to build strong firewalls around their networks that filter out all incoming traffic, thus preventing the use of any private servers and peer-to-peer clients of students as well as researchers.

    Our university did this, which has annoyed especially many computer science students. For me, it closed down my largeish website, together with many CGI programs for research (such as a data equalizer for neural net research) and personal purposes.

    I wrote a long complaint (in Finnish sorry) about the problem, but since most people don't need (or don't know they need) the service, they don't care. The students still can put up their web page to a poorly administered and always outdated main server, which doesn't have any DB or other softwares, and has very severe restrictions on disk space (on the order of 10 megs while I'd need some 10 gigs).

    I see this also as a serious threat to the development of new Internet services. If you look at most of the existing Internet technologies (http, nntp, smtp, bind...), they were all created in universities as "gray research", often by students. In a tightly firewalled Internet, they might never have made it out.

    Sure, researchers and deparments of our university can theoretically have their own servers, if the department's head takes personal official responsibility and the department officially allocates money for the upkeep. This means absolute ban for almost all "gray research" projects (often part of larger projects.)

    In our case, firewalling was explained with need for tighter security. However, an easy-to-use unofficial port registration would have solved most of the security problems. It's difficult to say what's the real reason; perhaps over-enthusiasm for "high-end security tech", or perhaps just low interest to administer the system - if the net isn't used it doesn't cause so much work, right?

    Oh, and we pay for our connections, although they are partly subvented. Well, it might even be profitable for the university. (Note that studying doesn't cost anything here.)

  9. Rumors of passing on are vastly overrated by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting · on MS DOS: A Eulogy
    No MS_DOS prompt is just one more reason I wouldn't move to XP, not that I even plan to. Still on 98 and I've been re-discovering some of my favorite old software and games from 386 days (remember Scorched Earth?) Much of these require the DOS shell, even if you have to fool around with slowing the computer or something.

    Can't expect old dogs like me to leap on the bandwagon just because there is one. Maybe someone will write an MS_DOS emulator for XP ;-)

  10. newbie question: sat systems in USA a'la Astra? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting · on DirecTV to Pursue Pirates
    I have a question, coming from a typical EU sat TV experience:

    Back at home, all I had to do was to buy a sat receiver, an 80cm dish, a small motor and the 'converter' (whatever that was called, which goes into the dish's focus point), and I was able to get hundreds of channels:

    • High quality stuff, like German-Austrian-Swiss 3sat
    • programs in all kind of languages, from Finnish to Turkish (not that I speak those, but between English, German, French, Italian and Spanish, I had some choice of multi-lingual programming :-P)
    • best of all: I did not have to subscribe to any service, no monthly fee etc.

    I don't want to start a flame-war: I just want a similar service here in the USA while I am here. How can I get it?

    Or is it so that, in a similar fashion as for cellphones in the USA, I have to pay even for things which are (or should be) paid for already by someone else?

    thanks for any detailed help.

    PS: what I mean with the cellphone comparison is:

    • I don't see why I should pay for TV movies interrupted by many commercials: I either pay by watching the commercials, or I don't want to see them inbetween movies. Not both.
    • Likewise, I don't want to pay for someone else's phone calls: if someone wants to call my phone, I don't see why I should be paying for it (as if I were asked to pay for incoming calls on my home phone, d'oh)

    PPS: I don't want to mess with sat dishes larger than 1m for that, nor to spend more than $300 total for the whole rig (as I'd do in EU).

  11. Yes I'd pay by chris_sawtell · · Score: 1 · on Micropayments: Effective Replacement For Ads Or ?

    The obvious place to collect the money off the reading public is at the portal. The portal would collect a regular subscription and pay the content providers on a clickthrough basis. A secure cookie on the client machine tells the content providers that this particular client is a paid-up reader and to let them view the information. No secure cookie, no view. I'd like this because it would keep the portal editors on their toes to only link to good information. The price could vary too. $0.000005 for a verbose yet content free page, and perhaps a dollar or two for an informative essay of real value. The amount actually paid could perhaps be tied in some way to the current scoring system. Yes, you would then have to extend the slashdot scoring system to the pages to which you link, but that would be no bad thing. Hopefully we would then be able to read single articles on subscription sites such as The Economist's report on the Microsoft appeal as they would then be getting paid. Also it would give individual authors who create content a motivation to produce good work and keep it updated. I for one would put more effort into my little Notes for C Programmers if I thought that I was going to be paid for the work.

  12. Re:Mirror PDF's? by sh00z · · Score: 1 · on History Of Infocom aka The Creators Of Zork
    the big mirror site is http://ifarchive.org/

    ...where the documents are:
    http://ifarchive.org/if-archive/infocom/info/infoc om-paper.pdf and
    http://ifarchive.org/if-archive/infocom/info/infoc om-presentation.pdf
    (maybe a /. expert can tell me why those spaces are appearing in the text above? It's not in what I'm typing, and the links appear to work fine...)

    But if that one goes away, it also has these alternates:

    Hope this helps!
  13. Real languages. by chris_sawtell · · Score: 1 · on Tutoring A Child Prodigy?
    This young fellow is either an Aspergers Syndrome sufferer, or a polymath. If the latter then breadth of education is what is needed. I'd suggest exposing him to real human languages such as Russian and Mandarin Chinese, both of which have considerable beauty. For a computer language tutorial you might find my "Notes for C programmers" useful. The youngest student I know about was a 12 year old in Israel.

    C-NOTES ( Not C++ )

  14. mirror by ]ix[ · · Score: 2 · on What Happened to ABIT's Gentus Linux?

    Get your Gentus here:

    ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/Linux/mirror s/g entus/

    /ix

  15. Re:Why this won't work by plover · · Score: 1 · on SDMI Technologist Talal Shamoon Interview
    I do not think these points are as invalid as you claim.

    • People will accept SDMI with open arms. People wouldn't accept SDMI with open arms, but they'll accept it with closed eyes. If it's on sale at Best Buy and Circuit City, it'll get accepted eventually.
    • Audible watermarking is a-okay. Watermarking at the bottom bit will be almost indistinguishable from random thermal noise, and will certainly introduce less distortion than the crap you get from MP3 compression (which the sheeple seem perfectly willing to settle for today.) Watermarking is certainly less audible than cassette tape hiss. Try it yourself -- play with one of the cypherpunks' audio-stego programs, like s-tools. I seriously doubt you can audibly detect the difference in any passage but silence.
    • Every hardware and software maker in the civilized world will be SDMI-complian t Actually, I agree with your third point. All it takes is for one "renegade" audio manufacturer to render all their protections impotent. Look to Aiwa to lead the way here, they were the first to decline to add the "copy protection chip" to their DAT recorders. Kenwood might also release "unprotected" hardware in an attempt to gain market share on Sony.

      Keep in mind, though, that while there certainly is fiscal incentive to allow copying, there is much less incentive to encourage piracy (which is the only feat watermark removal would accomplish.) Don't confuse the watermark with encryption -- its removal is not required to make the music playable / recordable.

      I suspect one of Mr. Shamoon's "value added" plans will use the watermark to authenticate "license to listen", performing exactly the same service MP3.com tried earlier this year.

    Mr. Shamoon is not a fool. A propagandist, certainly, perhaps a bit of an opportunist cashing in on the latest hot topic, but he is not a fool.

    John

  16. Censorship in universities by magi · · Score: 1 · on Just Say No To Reading About Drugs
    I am a CS student at the University of Turku, Finland. A few years ago, I had myself written a substantial amount of drugs information on my web pages at our university server (later relocated because of technical reasons). At one point, they removed them, and I received a strict order not to publish them in our university network.

    This means that I can't even publish them in my home computer, because it is connected to the Internet through our university. (I'm actually not even allowed to give user accounts to non-university people - which would clearly mean also family members...on a Windows machine there obviously wouldn't be such restrictions...)

    Since I had no other server in Finland where I could relocate the drugs information pages, they now reside at Lycaeum.

    The university apparently is allowed to censor the publications of its students and researchers, and of persons who pay money for their Internet connection.

    I have met similar problems as an administrator of ftp.funet.fi, one of the historically most significant FTP servers. It is maintained by FUNet (Finnish University Network). They also banned keeping drugs information there. ftp.funet.fi is funded by the Ministry of Education, and the administrators feared of cuts in funding, if it were to become public knowledge that the MoE is funding drugs information.

    Disclaimer: I am personally not a user of any illicit drugs, nor do I recommend their use to anyone. I might personally have some interest in medical use of marihuana, and perhaps also in recreational use of marihuana and some other drugs. I definitely think that the current prohibition laws of many drugs are bad, because they themselves make drugs much worse thing than they would otherwise be.

    Censorship is baad, o'kay?

  17. Censorship in universities by magi · · Score: 1 · on Just Say No To Reading About Drugs
    I am a CS student at the University of Turku, Finland. A few years ago, I had myself written a substantial amount of drugs information on my web pages at our university server (later relocated because of technical reasons). At one point, they removed them, and I received a strict order not to publish them in our university network.

    This means that I can't even publish them in my home computer, because it is connected to the Internet through our university. (I'm actually not even allowed to give user accounts to non-university people - which would clearly mean also family members...on a Windows machine there obviously wouldn't be such restrictions...)

    Since I had no other server in Finland where I could relocate the drugs information pages, they now reside at Lycaeum.

    The university apparently is allowed to censor the publications of its students and researchers, and of persons who pay money for their Internet connection.

    I have met similar problems as an administrator of ftp.funet.fi, one of the historically most significant FTP servers. It is maintained by FUNet (Finnish University Network). They also banned keeping drugs information there. ftp.funet.fi is funded by the Ministry of Education, and the administrators feared of cuts in funding, if it were to become public knowledge that the MoE is funding drugs information.

    Disclaimer: I am personally not a user of any illicit drugs, nor do I recommend their use to anyone. I might personally have some interest in medical use of marihuana, and perhaps also in recreational use of marihuana and some other drugs. I definitely think that the current prohibition laws of many drugs are bad, because they themselves make drugs much worse thing than they would otherwise be.

    Censorship is baad, o'kay?

  18. Re:Development Costs? by Stskeeps · · Score: 2 · on How Can I Promote Open Source On The Macintosh?

    I seem to remember there is a GCC module for MPW,
    www.funet.fi/pub/mac/programming/ (read 00Index). this thing (programming FAQ for Mac) might answer some questions too. If you want a MacOS (non-MacOS X), it is always possible to get. - Try search on Google (or any other search engine), and you will find it quickly)

  19. Re:it's illegal by Xenu · · Score: 2 · on Build Your Own 10Mbps Microwave Data Link

    I think the 56K symbol/second limit only applies to the 70 cm band. See Part 97 of the FCC regulations.

  20. Re:Break it UP... by muldrake · · Score: 2 · on Microsoft's Watered-down Version Of DOJ Remedy

    Will this benefit the Linux community? Probably not as much as all the diode-heads on here think. Linux and open source is still run by a bunch of techies. There is too much for your average MBA/CEO/CFO to grok now that they are used to doing it the MS way.

    I remember first using the Internet in 1989. I had been vaguely aware it existed before then, but didn't have access. People on Usenet were still arguing about the "Great Renaming." There was a huge prono ftp site at ftp.funet.fi. (The site still exists at ftp.funet.fi but I think without prono.) talk.bizarre was raiding rec.arts.startrek. You get the idea. (Interestingly I didn't even notice the WWW until 1995 and even then continued to ignore it for another couple years because I thought it was just a huge waste of bandwidth and it pissed me off and gopher was faster anyway.)

    I'd tell non-geeks about this Internet thing and as soon as I'd mention downloading things from Finland and Japan and other countries the immediate assumption was that I had to be doing something illegal or that I was just making the whole thing up. Nobody would buy the idea, or see that it was useful, and some would even outright deny that it was possible. I'd tell them in twenty years they'd have it in their house and they'd look at me like I was a nut.

    Now my mom sends me email.

    I think Linux and other such software is going this way, too. Mandrake and other simplified installations are a step in this direction. Right now the cluebies and other pointy-hairs can't even imagine using such a thing, but in ten years they won't be able to imagine not having it.

    Proprietary software will also continue to exist where it is advantageous to have it, but like BBSes and other top-down hierarchical distribution networks, will have its dominance destroyed.

  21. ASUS K7V Athlon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1 · on Athlon Motherboards And Chipsets Under Linux

    The machine:

    ASUS K7V, 800Mhz Athlon
    256MB PC133Mhz
    ASUS GeForce 6800 DDR
    Miro PCTV

    I recently bought this machine and installed Mandrake 7.0. It has been working for the past four days without a problem. The only problem is I'm trying to get the on-board sound card (using AC'97 compatible via82cxxx module) to work but without success (yet). The TV card using xawtv works with overlay using 2.3.99pre9 kernel.

    I have spent the last week searching for information on various items on hardware and linux information. An interesting sites about linux and the Athlon which I have just found (will be applying some of these advice tonight):

    http://apollo.ppm.u-psud.fr/athlon.html - Building a stable Athlon system...
    Documentation on via82cxxx patch-2.3.38

    Looking at the links on the first link, there is mention of optimisation flags that you can used to speed up some application for the Athlon under linux. Cool!

  22. Re:Too bad it's expensive, and output-limited by nutsy · · Score: 2 · on Compaq's PJB-100 MP3 Player Open-Sourced

    ...a suitable error-correcting protocol that can cope with there being no feedback from PC back to MP3 player.

    Why, of course there is! And another one too...

    Isn't modern technology great?

  23. Re:enigma warez ftp sitez by billstewart · · Score: 2 · on Enigma Machine Stolen
    The standard international crypto FTP sites have them:

    http://www.funet.fi/ftp/pub/crypt/

    ftp://ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/misc/

  24. Mirrors by dsplat · · Score: 2 · on XFree86 3.9.18 Today, v4.0 in March
    When their server couldn't talk to be, it gave me the following list of mirror sites. Typos introduced into the list in converting it to HTML are mostly my fault. However, Slashdot is fighting me on the lists a little bit, introducing spaces in my end tags.


    US



    Europe



  25. For more information on Tesla... by arnoroefs2000 · · Score: 1 · on Tesla: Erased at the Smithsonian

    For more information on maybe the most undervalued scientist of all time check the following links:

    How does a Tesla Coil work

    A short bio

    The Tesla Coil webring

    The Nikola Tesla Museum

    Huge ftp archive with Tesla pcitures

    Tesla's Autobiography

    Very thorough plan on how to build your own Tesla Coil

    This guy already made his own Tesla Coil

    Enjoy,
    Arno

    -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------
    "One World, one Web, one Program" - Microsoft promotional ad
    "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler

    http://www.picturez.net/ - All the people all the pictures

  26. still alive by csbruce · · Score: 1 · on PET Computer Article, Circa 1978
    Some of you might be interested to know that 8-bit Commodore computers are still alive and in use. In fact, there's even an active hardware company that can sell you a 2GB hard drive, a 20-MHz CPU accelerator with 16MB of RAM, a 16-MB RAM disk with battery backup, a UART chip, and a high-density floppy disk for your Commodore 64. Check out:
  27. Finally, a voice of reason. by nutsy · · Score: 1 · on Forum: Future Ports of Games to Linux

    I get *so* tired of the endless yapping about Quake IV, Monkey Island XIII, and other churn-out-a-rehash crap...

    Anyway, there are plenty of Infocom interpreter knock-offs available. The IF (Interactive Fiction) Archive's main site is an FTP site in Germany that's bog-slow; a list of mirrors follows.

    Go to the subdirectory "infocom" then "interpreters" and pick your poison -- my personal favorite is Frotz. Happy adventuring.

    in the USA:
    http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/doc/misc /if-archive/
    http://ftp.nodomainname.net/pub /mirrors/if-archive/
    http://ifarchive.org/
    ftp://www.plover.net/pub/ifarchive/

    in Finland:
    ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/misc/if-archive/

    in Australia:
    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/if-arch ive/

    in the UK:
    http://www.firedrake.org/if-archive/
    or ftp://ftp.firedrake.org/if-arch ive/

  28. Re:Thank Lenin! by fACTOR · · Score: 1 · on Nazis on Napster

    Here is a link to the orginal lyrics, translations and audio files. Soviet National Anthem

  29. Perl and Monitoring Oracle by moscow · · Score: 3 · on Linux Databases with Huge Tables?
    Are you aware of the perl DBI? It works for both Oracle and PostgreSQL (and mysql and ...). This can be used to provide access to databases regardless of type in a uniform manner, and are truly useful for remote access and regular running jobs, particularly those which use standard SQL. In Oracle terms, you can run Perl DBI anywhere that you can run sqlplus.

    There are a number of GPL products which use Perl + DBI. One of the best, IMHO, is Orac which also uses Perl/Tk and so provides GUI access from multiple platforms (Solaris, Linux, NT). Orac offers loads of SQL scripts to help with tuning, or just seeing the layout, of databases. It also provides realtime database monitoring, which is the current thrust for improvement of the tool. You can find it on CPAN, e.g. here .

    Another monitoring tool, which is capable of emailing you when it's unhappy as well as putting up current status on a web page is Karma. This is still developing rapidly and is intended for Oracle on Linux. This can be found here on freshmeat.

    Hope this is of some use.

  30. From the master's mouth by copito · · Score: 1 · on Loki Announces Loki Hack 1999 Contest

    ftp://ftp.funet.fi /pub/Linux/PEOPLE/Linus/SillySounds/english.au

    I hear it as "Lee-nooks"
    --

  31. Re:Size Matters YES! by Eg0r · · Score: 1 · on uCsimm News
    Whow! I've been wondering about exactly the same issues!

    On the one hand, Linux is adapting to Desktop computers in terms of integrated features and this is a good thing, nobody questions that, but on the other hand, Linux's size means its suitability for embeded applications becomes questionable. Not as questionable as using NT but still... (correct me if I'm wrong, and I wish I were, but I do have heard micros~1 is pushing its NT kernel (if there is such a thing...) for embeded applications)
    Anybody remember this /. article about a cash machine BSODing?

    Now... there is always a way to compile a custom kernel with minimal functionality, thanks god! the size of the compressed kernel source means for a great part that there are now lots of features / drivers / functionality that were just not available a couple of years ago.
    However, how does a minimal 2.2.10 compares with a 1.2.13? (both considered stable if I recall correctly)

    This is important, because projects like linuxrouter depend on being embedable, either on a floppy or much much more important, on devices like the diskonchip thingy. Do you see the market? routers, dns, xterms, you name it! Any of those devices could work on an embeded 486 with 8Mb or more of RAM. Is this 486/8Mb under my desk, a masquerading router/caching DNS? I thought so too.

    Now... you can spit on Linux, and use QNX ( check it, QNX is the king!).
    OR, because we're dealing here with a minimal Linux, actually designed for embeded applications, there is a lesser chance to get it wrong, therefore adding to security /stability / once again, you name it. Also, but some people might argue this is not the point (then please tell me what is the point about Linux), make it more attractive to hardware hackers.
    Hackable alternatives to QNX might include katix, ELKS or even FreeDOS... and of course, uClinux.

    Well well well,those are just some thoughts of mine, I'm nowhere involved with The Kernel, therefore I'm not in a very good position to critisize it, I just hope that the right people have reached the same conclusions or are aware of the fact that we may loose an important market if we only concentrate on desktops and above.

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