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Better Liars Make Better
war criminals.
As this member of the Bush Crime Family has clearly demonstrated.
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Re:Oh, my God. Oh, God, no!
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Dear N.S.A. : Please
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on war crminal fomer President-VICE Richard B. Cheney's spider-hole.
Peace be with you.
Yours In Justice,
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Re:nice...
"Sometimes conspiracy is a crime."
... and sometimes it is a system of government.
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Re:Typical Unimaginative Solution From Redmond
Ob. link.
Just remember bush == 'bama.
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Thank goodness for useful idiots
Under similar circumstances, the 2004 US election caging list controversy , where the Republican party was attempting to have thousands of African-Americans taken off the voter rolls, was revealed when sensitive e-mails were addressed to a George Bush parody site instead of the W's actual re-election site. The caging list wound its way into the hands of Greg Palast and the BBC and the rest is history.
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Well...
If you believe Greg Palast, those emails aren't so lost after all. His claim is that Rove and company messed up and accidentally sent a bunch of those emails to http://georgewbush.org/ addresses instead of http://georgewbush.com/. If these emails are genuine, they detail, among other things, how Republican operatives used a practice called caging to suppress probable opposition voters.
Of course given the nature of email, it's probably not provable that the email is genuine. And it doesn't help that Palast has a bit of a muckraker reputation. From what I've seen, he does have a bit of a bias, but I've never known him to fabricate his evidence. Personally I'm inclined to believe the emails are real, but, like I said, I'm not sure you can prove that. Unless of course they also turn up in the White House archives.
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THE ACTUAL EMAILS
Not sure how many this represents, but google found this for me:
http://2004.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice/index .asp -
Re:see a real live caging list
Basically you don't want a certain block of people to be able to vote (be it, republicans, democrats but, historically black democrats in tight elections). You send registered mail to every person on the registered voting list that meets your criteria.
Some mail will be failed to be delivered because the person doesn't live there anymore, they refuse to sign for the mail, they weren't home during delivered, etc, etc.
On election day you wait for those who have their registered mail returned to cast a ballot at their polling place. The agent then formally contests the ballot which is legal.
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Attached is the excel document with the returned mail from Douglas County.
Chris Jaarda
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From 'Douglas County Voter Fraud Master Spreadsheet.xls' properties
Network & Online Services
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see a real live caging list
some found lost emails: search Caging-1.xls already scooped here.. Karl Rove's caging guy, Tim Griffin, replaced of one of the fired U.S. Attorneys.. it's gonna be a painful 600 days for the Republicans.. the Dems are smart not to impeach, even though that's what the country (and world) really needs..
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Re:Hmmm
they can be seen here
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Funny that
Somebody else psoted a link refuting your critic point by point : Why EV vehicule failed.
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Re:see top 10 tech we miss article, insteadThere's a very extensive article written about the EV here:
http://www.georgewbush.org/forum/lofiversion/inde
x .php?t16860.htmlI can't verify anything it says myself, but scan ahead to the 'Why the EV failed' headline.
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CARS: Part of the Military - Industrial - Fascist
Regime..
Unfortunately, public transportation gets no attention because of the current fascist regime supported by
fundagelicals.
Patriotically as always,
Kilgore Trout, CEO -
It's already happened
... and the fix was worse than the problem.
It's a classic scenario. What we really have to worry about is going back in time and accidentally doing something that makes us cease to exist.
That appears to have already happened, and then been corrected. Unfortunatley, we now have Biff in charge of the world, so things are even worse off in this timeline than they were in both the original timeline, and the one where we don't exist. God damn that delorian and misguided science! -
Jesus Jihad Unleashed: +1, Patriotic
Welcome to the Jesus Jihad. We are determinied, as God-endorsed Christians,
to destroy any opposition to our political puppet, George W. Bush, in order to gain entrance to heaven. We endorse war, Israel, and the military-industrial-fascist regime of The United States of
America.
And, remember, when you visit my God-endorsed Web site The 700 Club,
don't forget to purchase the many products that should be otherwise taxed if it were not for the IRS courteous designation of our tax-empt status.
Remember: War is Christian
Godly As Always,
Pat Robertson
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Re:God Bless America
You think that "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is a bad guideline because sometimes it doesn't get followed?
Nothing wrong with the guideline at all - I wish more people would follow it! ESPECIALLY those people who claim to be extremely religious (I'm a devout agnostic, by the way!) and will quite happily pick and choose quotes from the bible when it suits them, on issues like homosexuality, yet conveniently forget the other rules it gives them when they don't accord with their own personal crusade.
You know, like thou shalt not kill, and those wacky ones in Leviticus that prescribe a death penalty for wearing clothes made of more than one fabric. Funny how THAT one never gets quoted by fundamentalists....
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Faithfully yours,
President George W. Bush: The World's Most Dangerous AND Inarticulate Leader -
Try georgewbush.org
Mirror here: http://www.georgewbush.org/
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TLDs Considered Harmful
I am personally not much of a fan of TLDs. In my experience, they just lead to confusion. Most domains are registered under
.tld, so that's where people will look, even if they should technically be somewhere else. This is also how domains are registered (compare georgewbush.com and georgewbush.org). Outside the US it's even worse - sites often have the country TLD, but sometimes a gTLD. To avoid confusion, some sites are accessible through multiple TLDs.
So, if TLDs are not being respected, why have them at all? Some have tried me that it organizes the namespace hierarchically, thus distributing the load. I don't think it helps a lot, if most people go for the .com anyway. The only people who benefit are those who profit from more domain registrations.
My proposal? Change the system so that top level domains can be directly registered. E.g. Google would get just Google, with no .com or anything. While we're at it, we might as well get rid of the ass-backwards naming, e.g. google/www/search rather than www.google.com/search. Companies that actually use the TLDs to select sites in different countries could still do so; instead of google.de and google.co.uk they would get google/de and google/uk.
And one more pet peeve of mine: we could add support for IP-IP encapsulation. That way, if your server is hosted between a NAT box, you can just instruct clients to route the packet to your internal IP via the NAT box. Of course, the client and the NAT box would have to support it as well... -
georgewbush.org caught this stuff in their smtp
What's interesting is that the non-Republican site georgewbush.org is the one that provided the documentation to the BBC on this story. They apparently had a catch-all mailbox that they discovered accumulating a ton of GOP-internal mails that were misdirected to the wrong domain!
The site goes on to document all sorts of interesting internal correspondence, including dubious intimidation tactics and sleazy fliers the GOP is encouraging religious groups hand out at services. It's very illuminating. -
Re:At least the .org's still accessible!
Have they changed it now? Or am I supposed to be insulted that it works from Canada?
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Re:Please...
The problem is that since we don't have access to all the information Palast has, the question boils down to whether we can trust him.
Palast got his information from this page containing emails sent to georgewbush.org by mistake.
The footage of the private detective filming people, along with physical evidence of Republican voter fraud provided by Florida elections officials, is available here in RealVideo format.
So now you have enough information to address the substance of what he says, and you don't need to resort to ad hominem attacks anymore.
It is not an ad homienm fallacy, because our opinions of Palast DO matter. If we cannot trust him, we cannot pay attention to what he says, unless fully corroborated.
Even if fully corroborated is more like it. You "cannot pay attention to what he says" only because you're afraid of learning things that might challenge your beliefs. -
Re:This one works
Here's a mirror
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Re:Proxy
Don't worry there's a mirror
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Dead Letter OfficeFunny story about the georgewbush.org domain:
It seems like some of the Bush campaign staffers have accidentally sent emails to colleagues at name@georgewbush.ORG instead of the correct name@georgewbush.COM. Fortunately, the georgewbush.org mailserver had a "catch-all" mailbox in place, and you can read the contents of this "Dead Letter Office". There are some gems in there, like memos intended for Karl Rove, a weekly report from "Pennsylvania Evangelical Outreach", and even apparent evidence of illegal suppression of black votes (check out Caging1.xls).
Interesting
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Re:Someone explain to me how this is news
In a time where 537 votes makes ALL the difference, the ten-thousand plus Americans overseas certainly do not consider themselves a statistically negligible group. Your feelings may vary.
Granted, it's primarily Republicans that are fighting to ensure that not all the votes counted, as they did in 2000 when they argued before the Supreme Court that racially marginalized populations don't deserve to have their votes counted (being too brown, and all), but it's not at all inconceivable that someone overseas might not know how to vote and might need to find out how to vote. While they can, of course, search for the information on Google and check out cached pages and do a reverse DNS over IP doubleback-traceroute off a proxy server in Malaysia to get to the information they need, chances are they are not as computer savvy as your average slashbot (though certainly more worldly, as you've pointed out). In fact, there is undoubtedly someone out there that can only guess at where they might go, and it certainly seems to the layperson that the candidates that want your vote might have information on how to vote on their webpages. Guessing http://www.georgewbush.com/ is a lot easier than guessing http://www.eac.gov/register_vote_forms.asp.
Of course, if people overseas can't get to the cesspool of lies that is georgewbush.com, they're more likely to go to the mildly festering swamp of lies and revealing truths at http://www.johnkerry.com/, or preferably the amusing and admirable http://www.georgewbush.org/. Either way, it's a step in the right direction (or at least shorter strides in the wrong one). -
No problem--the info is located on his other site
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At least the .org's still accessible!
though it's a little off-message.
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Re:List of Names == EVIL!The "list" is given the somewhat odd filename caging.xls. Vague, but not exactly positive, as it appears to imply a negative use, and it's difficult to think of positive uses for the list anyway.
I guess if the box of paperclips had the label "Eye pokers", the analogy would be complete.
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Re:Stupid stupid stupid.
Fortunately, this one still is accessible:
www.georgewbush.org/ :-) -
If you want to see the emails and the lists
go here.
Seems like they accidentally sent a copy to someone at a georgewbush.org email address, instead of .com. .org is an anti-Bush site!
This site's been printing a lot of other interesting misdirected letters, also.
Bonus: way at the bottom of this page is a discussion between staffers at the .com website basically comparing attractiveness of the Bush daughters. -
Re:Sent to the wrong address
I think this e-mail from the deadletteroffice is actually more interesting. Didn't the last POTUS get in trouble for selling access?
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen W Hammond [mailto:karen.hammond@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:07 PM
To: kvetri@georgewbush.org
Cc: FHSuitter@suitter.com
Subject: Fw: RE:
David Plummer was unable to attend the Seattle or LA events. As you can see, they are still interested in finding one that will fit their schedules with POTUS. ($25,000) Do you have an updated schedule of events other than convention I can get to him? If I can get the money before convention, is there an event at Convention with POTUS where they can get their picture?
Frank....see below...David is still on board.
--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Carol A. Shrives" [carol@classicstar.com]
To: "Karen W Hammond" [karen.hammond@juno.com]
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:56:27 -0600
Subject: RE:
Message-ID:
DCDD1F18594EDC4BA0031E104D69183B 03BC3A@stallion.cl assicstar.classicstar. com
Hi Karen,
David and Debby are still very much interested in attending a Victory Event and David asked me to contact you for a schedule of upcoming events and related information. Thank you and please contact me anytime for assistance.
Sincerely,
Carol A. Shrives
Assistant to the CEO
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Sent to the wrong address
What's interesting about this story is the way the it was uncovered. The "secret" email was only revealed because of the stupidity of the sender. Instead of sending it to an email address at the real bush campaign website, it was sent to georgewbush.org, an anti-bush website. georgewbush.org decided to post all email in their catch-all to in what they call the "dead letter office."
http://www.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice/
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drum beating robot, eh?
no thanks, already have one.
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Re:This isn't the first time
Rove missed one though... and this one is considerably more misleading than the "Van Hollen" site (although, I have to say I like it, but I went to it knowing what it was, not thinking that is was a "Bush" site).
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SadYou would think that all political domain names would be held to the same high standards as georgewbush.org, whitehouse.org and whitehouse.com.
There ought to be a law. Won't somebody please think about thinking about the children?
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same thing in the presidential race
now, I doubt this domain was paid for by the democratic candidates... but GeorgeWBush.ORG is the mock site, the real site is
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Re:Perpetual Employment!
Try and research your comment before you post:
Bush's Yale Transcript
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but only when he
is not speaking.
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Re:Electronic Civil Disobedience speaker said WHATAlthough I can see the argument that some sort of electronic attack on the RNC cold be a valid form of civil disobedience, I definitely have to agreee with you that this guy is just lame lame lame, for the following reasons
:1) The best you can propose is a DDOS attack? I mean, come on! That's just stupid, and causes collateral network slowdowns as well... how about something useful, like getting into the servers, redirecting to other websites or plain ol-fashioned defacing of main pages? A DDOS attack... it's just so lame...
2) The guy can't even write a decent call-to-arms. "undemocratic will of the people" ? Did someone proofread this crap??
;-)And no, I am not advocating that anyone should hack into any computer system, anywhere, because that would be wrong and illegal. No, really...
Besides, individual bodies actually showing up in person all at once would be much more convincing and newsworthy than a website being down for a few minutes. If you want to disrupt the convention, I'm guessing a whole bunch of protesters showing up in person would be more effective than shutting down a website.
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Re:one is /. and the other not?
Try http://georgewbush.org/ instead.
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I've got a better question: +1, Informative
Was George W. Bush the first fake president?
People want to know.
Regards,
Kilgore Trout -
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