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Re:Imagine
Look for yourself, there's a link Over a thousand bugs in Natilus alone, including a blocker that's been open since 2014. Crappy, corporate-like dev team that can't manage their way out of a paper box. Keeping a bug tracker like that. They should commit seppuku from shame.
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Re:People still use Gnome?
The answer to this question is available in the annual report.
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Re:What if I am an Ubuntu hater, too?
So why *do* so many people use Gnome? As you said elsewhere, it's not as much as it was 10 years ago but still... I feel like they should be a niche player by now, but they're very much not. Does being Red Hat's default really carry *that* much weight? And why does RHAT support a desktop environment that's overtly hostile towards its users and (if what you say is true) third party devs as well?
I've heard nothing but good things about Qt too (even though I had the same initial assumptions about C++ vs. GTK's C), but GTK, too, seems to have already garnered too much momentum to stop. I just don't quite get how so much momentum can exist in an ecosystem where the alternatives are all free and they're all just single apt-get install (or yum equiv) away. I understand laziness, but surely when Gnome 3 rolled around the lazy option was to go KDE or XFCE and never look back?
I know I've said this like 4 times already in this thread but it's been bugging me for a long time now and I've yet to hear a plausible explanation, or really any explanation not resting entirely on the might of RHAT. -
Re:what "overall user experience" usually means
That's why I've been working on this
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Re: What does Netcraft say?
I'm not sure why you post anonymously. It is a righteous rant.
:-) We are trying to do something about it - http://las.gnome.org/. It's too bad people on slashdot reject designers so assiduously like they were the plague. Basically, this audience are a bunch of technocrats that believe the raw interface to the computer is ascendant and that if you can't adapt to it, you don't belong. -
Re: What does Netcraft say?
Well, that's why there is a conference exactly building that - http://las.gnome.org/ We still move forward.
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Re:Current Version is GIMP 2.8.18
What real world work can be done in Photoshop but not GIMP? I'm not trolling, this is a serious question
... often obscure seldom-used features get compared ... out there in the world of practical productive work, what are the true shortcomings?For me, the major shortcoming is adjustment layers. In Photoshop, you can apply a non-destructive layer/filter over your image to modify parameters such as brightness, contrast, colour levels, etc. You can then directly edit your image "below" this filter, e.g. cropping it. You can then modify the adjustment layer later.
In GIMP, once you modify brightness or contrast, that's it. You can't come back and remove/change these setting later. This has been a requested feature for at least 14 years.
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Re: The iPhone 3 still gets support?
There were over a hundred WebKit security updates last year. How many made it to the iPhone 3? https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatan...
I would imagine zero, which is to be expected for a phone discontinued in June, 2010. But they all made it to iPhone 4s, iPad 2 and above.
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Re: The iPhone 3 still gets support?
There were over a hundred WebKit security updates last year. How many made it to the iPhone 3? https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatan...
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Re:Typical KDE
Yes,
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Re:I Like Apt
> NetworkManager is impossible to control from the command line https://developer.gnome.org/Ne...
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Re: Why would anyone want Linux on the desktop?
I've used "Document Viewer" on the Trinity Desktop (KDE3.5 fork) for the last year, works great so far. Only issues have been with a few DMV forms that had some kind of "encryption" that kept me from saving the completed document as another PDF file, could still print the completed form or print to pdf without problems. Just couldn't "save as
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Re:Can you open multiple windows simulaneously yet
I wonder, have they discovered in gnome 3.x that real people need to open real applications on the same screen?
Or on multiple screens, for that matter.
Or run the desktop environment in a window on a bigger screen (e.g. a VM).Relying on pointing devices not going past the edge of the screen takes a certain kind of talent.
You could always press the Super key as an alternative to the hot corner. Or you could install one of the many extensions https://extensions.gnome.org/ that gives you an alternative way to launch applications. Neither of these things would take as much time out of your day as your slightly odd
/. post.Why should the lack of corners on your virtual machine prevent me from having access to useful features?
One of the best extensions is taskBar
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Re:two remaining developers
Highly anticipated by all two remaining GNOME developers
Right.
In total, the release incorporates 28933 changes, made by approximately 837 contributors.
(from the release notes).
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Re:Can you open multiple windows simulaneously yet
I wonder, have they discovered in gnome 3.x that real people need to open real applications on the same screen?
Or on multiple screens, for that matter.
Or run the desktop environment in a window on a bigger screen (e.g. a VM).Relying on pointing devices not going past the edge of the screen takes a certain kind of talent.
You could always press the Super key as an alternative to the hot corner. Or you could install one of the many extensions https://extensions.gnome.org/ that gives you an alternative way to launch applications. Neither of these things would take as much time out of your day as your slightly odd
/. post.Why should the lack of corners on your virtual machine prevent me from having access to useful features?
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Re:Thanks, so much thanks
Seem much easier to search for "pointer confinement" "pointer locking" to get hits on Wayland. Seems Wayland won't let you move the cuusor like X does, but it will, eventually, allow you to confine or lock it. Seems to be taking fooorrrreeeevvvveeeerrrrr.
Good news "MARCH 4, 2016 ... pointer confinement have all landed this cycle"
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Re:Linux is a fragile house of cards
I'm guessing it refers to NetworkManager, the GUI tool for finding available networks and configuring interfaces to connect to them. WLAN in particular is a lot more complex than ye olde ifup eth0.
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Re: Stop whining
On the command line, try this one : gvfs-open. It's good if you simply want to open a file.
Unless you have a non-heterogenous environment and use X remotely.
~ $ gvfs-open
.bashrc
GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gcon... for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally without any error message)
~ $ Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" -
Overload == operator, moderate, optimize for +, &a
Even before Bruce wrote this timely article, I wondered whether more women in open source might be a cause or an effect of better moderation. My brief time working with the late Telsa Gwynn at GUADEC 2003 suggested that moderation was one of her under-appreciated roles. But she was attacked by the misogynistic mob (AKA the open source community.) Were it not for Telsa's thick skin and an overdeveloped sense of forgiveness, none of us would have benefited from her work. Many other women and others outside of a particularly narrow age/race/religion/gender profile have experienced similar when attempting to contribute and most gave up. We tolerate Linus's rantings and ignore that only timing and humility separated Linus from countless other early *nix hackers. We tolerate Gangolf Jobb's racist license and Trumpish rantings because he is a good coder. My family and remote team members met at GUADEC Istanbul where a very well-known opensource developer spewed misogynistic rantings that embarrassed and offended me, projected a terrible impression of Christians and Euro/American society to my global team who were experiencing western society for the first time. He came very near to inspiring at least one person to push him into the Bosporus. Why does this happen? Part of it is the same reason Whitney Houston and other rock , movie and sports superstars are bat shit insane. Society should be a counterbalance to the Id, but when we worship people as superstars, there is no counterbalance and Id rules. The defence mechanism takes over when the inner demons unleashed by bad decisions are externalized, possibly as police brutality. Similar forces were at play when Hans Reiser became our OJ Simpson.
In the past that role of moderation was performed by a central government (e.g. the FCC), a tight group of highly educated individuals, a class/caste system. Twitter and Facebook use something close to a democracy but the S/N ratio can quickly fall to the level of CB radio, AOL and usenet. The more sophisticated merit-based moderation system used by Slashdot, some opensource projects and creative sites such as worth1000 works well, at least above a certain threshold. But these systems must be designed to prevent individuals or small groups from becoming immune to criticism. Within government legal frameworks the censor or impeachment is a mechanism for moderation. We could do something within opensource communities where an individual's ethics could taint their contributions. Each of us would be able to choose whether we want to contribute or use ethically-tainted patches.
Back in the 1980s when I may have been the last male to wirewrap a PDP-11 core memory board, a friend commented, "Did you ever notice that men in the comp-sci program are (80s equivalent of "Meh") but the women are brilliant?" Yes, I did notice that. But whatever happened to Karen Norwood, Maureen T, Kathy Christiansen, Norah K, and the sole woman in our Physics program?
This is where overloading the == operator comes in. Equality is an overloaded word. Here in Ireland, the word was a slogan for LBGT marriage rights which passed referendum with an overwhelming majority. But the word "equality" doesn't apply to gender, race, religion or immigration issues here. But do we really want women to become equal to 20-something males who live in their parent's basement who have the moral and emotional depth of comic book and video game heros? I don't. Let's take the best woman have to offer and not try to force them into our broken mold.
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Re:The real problem is Millennials.
Then around 2005 the Millennial Generation started getting involved, and things took a nosedive from there. We ended up with the debacles that I listed earlier. When three generations manage to do things right, and then the fourth royally fucks up everything, let's place the blame where it deserves to be placed: with that four generation!
Windows 8 Metro designer is Julie Larson-Green born in 1962. She's a 22 year Microsoft veteran headed to Office next. The Gnome 3 design history shows William Jon McCann (whom I cannot find a DOB for. I don't think it's strictly a generational thing, and if anything you're barking at GenX.
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Re:Gnome 3
It sounds like you don't use GNOME like it is intended either. Sure, you get what you want - for the most part - if you go without the panel and use compiz and build an OSX-like interface, etc. etc.
No, that's how I chose to use the GNOME desktop. I still used the gnome session manager, and nautilus, so I was categorically still using GNOME. I simply chose to sub out the panel.
As far as what's missing, it was like I said: configurability.
Yes, I used that configurability. It would let you configure it to use an alternate panel. That's what I did.
It's been fifteen years, I can't give you specifics. The mailing lists should still be there, and you'll find people on them (including myself) complaining about the process.
If you can't remember, it's not important. Stealing the window widgets, that's important. Whatever you forgot, not important.
Oh, and I like Motif, too, in a strange sort of way. Want to talk about removal of configrability, just ask where X resources went.
You like something about it. You don't like Motif. And on the subject of XResources and GTK, they were intentionally omitted because in practice they were little used and just increased the PITA factor. They were underused before, if you don't make them mandatory people don't implement them or don't implement them well. It was better to let them go away.
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Geary
I'm about to test Geary https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Ge...
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Re:Duh
Lennart Poettering has been actively pushing other projects to depend on systemd. Here's one example from the Gnome mailing lists.
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Re:Duh
So now there's no Gnome or KDE on anything but Linux.
That is Lennart's plan. Here's what he says::
"I
think we need to ask ourselves the question if we do ourselves any good
if we continue to support all kinds of kernels that simply cannot keep
up with Linux anymore."I guess we'll see how writing non-portable *nix code as a strategy works out in the long run. I'm not a fan of the idea. It certainly makes for some big trade-offs. I like having the same desktop available on multiple platforms (and different Linux distros don't count for that).
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Re:Wrong way around
The systemd team didn't create those dependencies, the DE maintainers did. All of these DEs ran just fine without systemd and they still could if someone was interested in doing so.
The systemd developers have been active in the DE mailing lists, encouraging them to make systemd a dependency. See here for an example.
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Re:Duh
So now there's no Gnome or KDE on anything but Linux.
That is Lennart's plan. Here's what he says::
"I think we need to ask ourselves the question if we do ourselves any good if we continue to support all kinds of kernels that simply cannot keep up with Linux anymore."
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Re: Get some perspective.
If a co-worker wants to crop baby photos gimp is the tool. If a co-worker wants to take screenshots and put them in reports gimp is the tool.
Not according to the GIMP developers it's not.
I can only assume this means they'll continue to make GIMP worse for people that just want to use it rather than live their lives with it.
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Re:A good point, but poorly phrased.
Sure. It's hard to get an estimate for the whole of gimp, but look at one of the plugins, eg. lighting:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/tree/plug-ins/lighting
In that plugin, apply, image and shade (about 1500 lines) contain the actual image processing code. The rest (about 2600 lines) is all UI and plumbing. And that's for a plugin, where most of the UI is supplied by GIMP. The code for something like the paintbush will be more like 90% UI and 10% processing.
You could also look at GEGL, the new image processing library that gimp is supposed to be switching to. That's currently 5mb of code to gimp's 20mb.
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Re:Sadly..
Compare it with Blender, with a healthy and energetic user and developer base, a continuous flow of real and useful new features, and a rapidly growing and actively using user base.
Feel free to correct me, but GIMP doesn't have the kind of sponsors that Blender has. But the help you get in the forums involves a lot of "works for me" defensiveness and that drives users away.
The day GIMP started trying to force people to save in its own proprietary format (to the great unhappiness of a large portion of its user base) rather than the format the file was OPENED in pretty much marks its death.
Native, not proprietary (the spec is out there and you're free to write readers/writers for it). Do you know of any other open format that preserves the structure of a GIMP doc?
As for writing back to the original format, I just opened a random PNG to double-check. Sure enough, under the File menu, Save (Control-S) and Save As... are for saving to XCF (so you don't lose any GIMP features you've built on top of it). Then you have Overwrite foo.png which does exactly what you want and Export As... which lets you pick a new name. Just remember that, just like with Libre|OpenOffice, opening another format is actually an import operation.
That's not where my gripes lie. For example, using the Text tool is akin to waltzing on a messy car repair shop and the font picker is an unhelpful eyesore. Installing plugins is anything but foolproof. My memory fails me right now but I'm sure you guys can pick up from here.
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Drop Down Terminal + Screen
If you're running a terminal, GNU Screen is absolutely essential. And when you're using GNU Screen, all terminals are pretty much interchangeable already.
So, technically I run Gnome Terminal. But I run Screen inside of that.
Less-technically: I use this https://extensions.gnome.org/e... "Drop Down Terminal" extension, which allows me to bind a key (such as the otherwise unused "context menu" key on my keyboard), to cause a terminal to drop down, as it would in Quake or other games with a "console".
Drop Down Terminal (running "screen -A -x -RR"), has, without any sarcasm or hyperbole, completely revolutionised my workflow. It gives the ability to treat the terminal as something you "peek" at, between doing other tasks (which take place either in the web browser, or some window dedicated to being a text editor). I cannot go on enough about how much I think this should be a thing everywhere.
As a bonus, it gives a use to that otherwise completely useless "context menu" key.
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CMU Sphinx
I've been toying around with this to get voice controls on desktop. Seems OK but finding a good noise cancelling room mic is key. Another benefit here is you don't need a server transaction to analyze your voice as many "personal assistant" softwares seem to do.
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Re: No one is surprised
The recommendation to web site hosts to address the beast attack was to go back to RC4 because the browsers supported it and the servers supported it. The right thing would be to go forward to a decent mode like CCM or GCM, but that would require the browsers to support them and they don't universally support those modes.
E.G.
https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatan...
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Windows 7 to Linux
First, if they are moving from 7 to 10 they are learning a new OS
In what world? For the basic user very little at all has changed between 7 and 10. The interface looks a tiny bit different, "All Programs" is now called "All Apps" in the start menu but otherwise there's absolutely nothing about windows 10 that needs "learning".
To the extent that they're moving from Windows 7 to Linux, the learning curve may be less than that from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Things are less screwed up in the user interface, and probably more familiar to a Windows user.
If they're moving to a KDE or xfce distribution, there might be a (very small) learning curve. It might take longer if there's a highly customized xfce configuration (as we have). Similarly for Gnome distributions. Of course, I agree that the learning curve for Unity is quite long, and might require as much as a whole hour. Oh, and you can change the user interface later, if you want.
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meaning of 'release"
The URL shown in the announce video https://download.gnome.org/mis... n'exist pas. Tsk!
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Re: tricks: Vaccum, wash the keboard, load linux.
Then installing Linux [...] will give them a modern, supported, OS with a good and easy to use word processor (Open Office) for free.
OpenOffice is dead.
LibreOffice is the better Office clone.
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Process Explorer
There are a number of GUI process and resources tools, but all pale in comparison to Mark Russinovich's/Winternals' Process Explorer. That puppy is rock-solid stable, loads instantly, and is performant. By comparison the Ubuntu default (gnome-system-monitor) is a resource hog, takes relatively forever to load (on non-SSD hardware, anyway), is half as discoverable, makes no (or little) intelligent use of colors, has maybe a 20th of the options of PE, and looks
... just plain bulky.The closest in quality I have is htop, which is unfortunately CLI only. htop is an incredible improvement on top, and is certainly much more suited to situations like SSH, but the Linux ecosystem is missing a quality GUI, well, "Process Explorer".
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Re:Just look at GNOME 3, Firefox 4+, Windows 8.
I ditched GNOME the day that I received the new Evince after an update. After encountering the new 'pretty' interface, it took me over 10 minutes to find out how to open a fucking file.
Apparently, all functionality has been delegated to the single Hamburger Menu Button (since that's what's hip and cool in web design these days!) -- but this button doesn't appear if your window is too small. You know what doesn't have that problem? Menu bars. It's almost like the classic 'File/Edit/View' is a taboo in UI design these days!
The entire 'but you have more vertical space!'-argument is also a load of bull. Going back to Gedit, the tabs are larger, and so is the title bar. In the screenshots you linked, old gedit (title bar + menu bar + tabs) has approx. 74px of space used; the new gedit (title bar/toolbar combo + tabs) uses approx. 84px! If you really wanted to save that precious vertical space, why not just turn off the toolbar?
The GNOME foundation claims that "[t]he design of Evince is centered around creating a natural experience [...] where you hardly even know that Evince exists". After switching to MATE's Atril I can wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment; I hardly know that Evince exists!
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Re:Just look at GNOME 3, Firefox 4+, Windows 8.
I ditched GNOME the day that I received the new Evince after an update. After encountering the new 'pretty' interface, it took me over 10 minutes to find out how to open a fucking file.
Apparently, all functionality has been delegated to the single Hamburger Menu Button (since that's what's hip and cool in web design these days!) -- but this button doesn't appear if your window is too small. You know what doesn't have that problem? Menu bars. It's almost like the classic 'File/Edit/View' is a taboo in UI design these days!
The entire 'but you have more vertical space!'-argument is also a load of bull. Going back to Gedit, the tabs are larger, and so is the title bar. In the screenshots you linked, old gedit (title bar + menu bar + tabs) has approx. 74px of space used; the new gedit (title bar/toolbar combo + tabs) uses approx. 84px! If you really wanted to save that precious vertical space, why not just turn off the toolbar?
The GNOME foundation claims that "[t]he design of Evince is centered around creating a natural experience [...] where you hardly even know that Evince exists". After switching to MATE's Atril I can wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment; I hardly know that Evince exists!
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Re:Anger and other lack of social ability stops Li
Notepad++ is pretty nice, but it does not hold a candle to several of the Linux based text editors.
For instance:
kate http://kate-editor.org/
gedit https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Ge...
vim http://www.vim.org/
emacs https://www.gnu.org/software/e...
Like I said, Notepad++ is a good editor, and I use it myself when forced to use Windows, but it does not compare to what is offered in Linux. Also, most things in Linux are well documented. Sadly there are some things that are not, but practically nothing I have ever needed documentation for in Windows has had decent documentation. -
Re:The Microsoft key!!!! I've never used it...ever
It does, in Gnome at least (not used KDE in donkey's years, other environments YMMV). https://wiki.gnome.org/Gnome3C... This obviously assumes you use a bog-standard keyboard, but you need to make a real effort these days to get one without a Windows key.
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Re:No more!
Before complaining about mbed TLS's GPLv2 license, you should probably be aware that OpenSSL uses its own application-specific license, which is not OSI approved. The license contains an advertising clause similar to the original BSD license; that makes OpenSSL both GPL-incompatible and a general PITA to work with.
In fact, I'd wager that almost every time OpenSSL is redistributed, it's done in violation of the license. When was the last time you saw a product advertising that "This product includes software developed by the OpenSSL Project for use in the OpenSSL Toolkit"? That text has to appear whenever you advertise any OpenSSL-based crypto functionality.
The license is technically libre, but only by the skin of its teeth...
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How the fuck is it "hijacking"?
GIMP is open source software. Firefox is open source software.
The whole point of open source software is to allow anyone to freely change and redistribute the software.
The GPL, which GIMP is released under, says in its preamble (emphasis added)
The licenses for most software and other practical works are designed
to take away your freedom to share and change the works. By contrast,
the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom to
share and change all versions of a program--to make sure it remains free
software for all its users.If the developers of GIMP and Firefox don't want others redistributing their software, possibly with changes, then maybe they shouldn't have released them under open source licenses.
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GIMP project's official statement on SourceForge's
GIMP project's official statement on SourceForge's actions:
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exactly
SourceForge, the code repository site owned by Slashdot Media, has apparently seized control of the account hosting GIMP for Windows on the service, according to e-mails and discussions amongst members of the GIMP community—locking out GIMP's lead Windows developer. And now anyone downloading the Windows version of the open source image editing tool from SourceForge gets the software wrapped in an installer replete with advertisements.
http://arstechnica.com/informa...
The GIMP developers aren't happy at all about this. They say that Sourceforge impersonated the GIMP developers, and abused the trademarks owned by the GNOME foundation.
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Re:Well, from Dice's perspective...
Yes they did that. They not just added adware to the installers, they also locked out the original devs from the accounts.
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SourceForge.net is spreading adware installers
SourceForge, the code repository site owned by Slashdot Media, has apparently seized control of the account hosting GIMP for Windows on the service, according to e-mails and discussions amongst members of the GIMP community—locking out GIMP's lead Windows developer. And now anyone downloading the Windows version of the open source image editing tool from SourceForge gets the software wrapped in an installer replete with advertisements.
Link to original source
The GIMP developers aren't happy at all about this. They say that Sourceforge impersonated the GIMP developers, and abused the trademarks owned by the GNOME foundation -
SourceForge.net is spreading adware installers
SourceForge, the code repository site owned by Slashdot Media, has apparently seized control of the account hosting GIMP for Windows on the service, according to e-mails and discussions amongst members of the GIMP community—locking out GIMP's lead Windows developer. And now anyone downloading the Windows version of the open source image editing tool from SourceForge gets the software wrapped in an installer replete with advertisements.
Link to original source
The GIMP developers aren't happy at all about this. They say that Sourceforge impersonated the GIMP developers, and abused the trademarks owned by the GNOME foundation. -
Re:oajds
This whole SourceForce/GIMP debate makes no sense, and is really a non-issue. Let me explain why.
GIMP is open source software. It's released under the terms of the GPL.
The preamble of the GPL states, with emphasis added,
The licenses for most software and other practical works are designed
to take away your freedom to share and change the works. By contrast,
the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom to
share and change all versions of a program--to make sure it remains free
software for all its users.The whole point of releasing software under the GPL is so that it can be freely modified and shared by anyone, and not just its creators.
So to me, that means that SourceForge, or anyone else for that matter, should be able to take any software released under the GPL, including GIMP, and (optionally) modify it and redistribute it as per the terms of the GPL.
The original creator of the software doesn't need to like or approve of these changes. Somebody could update GIMP to show pictures of penises every 10 seconds, and to loudly play an audio clip of somebody screaming "Buttfuck!" every 20 seconds. As long as this updated version is released in a way that's compatible with the GPL, I don't think that the original authors of the code should have any reason to complain. They chose the GPL, which gives people the freedom to make changes to the code, and to redistribute those changes.
I think that the authors of the software have even less reason to complain when an installer is involved. The installer is completely separate from the software it is installing. The installed software is compiled, and could very well be completely unmodified. The installed software is very likely compressed within the installer, so it's not like the binary itself is even directly embedded within the installer. All the installer contains is an array of data that, as-is, is useless. So the authors of the installed software should really have no say over what the installer does. If it chooses to show ads before or after installing the software, so be it. If it chooses to install other software before or after installing the main software, so be it.
I know that you'll probably accuse me of being a "shill" or otherwise affiliated with Dice or SourceForce, but I'm obviously not. All I'm doing is, as an independent observer, rationally and objectively looking at the facts of the case. The GIMP developers chose a license that's specifically designed to allow their software to be modified and freely shared. It doesn't require them to approve of or even like the modifications that were made, or how it was redistributed. So they shouldn't act like children when somebody freely distributes the software in a way that they don't like, especially if the software itself hasn't even been modified.
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Re:File manager without file, edit, view..
Right.
The evolution from FVWM/FVWM95/IceWM/Scwm/Sawfish (in my case) to Metacity was a big progress because The windows management API goes normalized and was separated from all the others goodies provided by a desktop. At this time Gnome 2 was a superb improvement (KDE too) for the users without losing really used features from the previous projects. XFCE, MATE and Cinnamon continue on this track, with some success. Gnome 3 WM Mutter was a different kind of evolution, more like an experimental project. There nothing wrong to try experiment, but closing Gnome 2 WM Metacity project so early was a bad choice. The most obvious prove of this is the fact that the developers of Mutter ported Metacity to GTK3+ instead of adding Metacity features into Mutter:
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME...From my point of view, Metacity should have been ported to GTK3+/Gnome 3, first and then Mutter could have started as a new experiment, not the contrary. The actual situation is just the natural correction of this error that have taken a lot too much attention than if it was done the right way.
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duplicity: local encryption, multiple backends
automatically encrypt your data locally and upload it to multiple locations. These locations can be public locations as only your private key can decrypt the incremental (or full) backups.
Some backends:
- azure backend (Azure Blob Storage Service) Microsoft Azure SDK for Python - https://github.com/Azure/azure...
- boto backend (S3 Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud Storage) boto version 2.0+ - http://github.com/boto/boto
- cfpyrax backend (Rackspace Cloud) and hubic backend (hubic.com) Rackspace CloudFiles Pyrax API - http://docs.rackspace.com/sdks...
- dpbx backend (Dropbox) Dropbox Python SDK - https://www.dropbox.com/develo...
- copy backend (Copy.com) python-urllib3 - https://github.com/shazow/urll...
- gdocs backend (Google Docs) Google Data APIs Python Client Library - http://code.google.com/p/gdata...
- gio backend (Gnome VFS API) PyGObject - http://live.gnome.org/PyGObjec...
- D-Bus (dbus)- http://www.freedesktop.org/wik...
- lftp backend (needed for ftp, ftps, fish [over ssh] - also supports sftp, webdav[s]) LFTP Client - http://lftp.yar.ru/
- mega backend (mega.co.nz) Python library for mega API - https://github.com/ckornacker/..., ubuntu ppa - ppa:ckornacker/backup
- OneDrive backend (Microsoft OneDrive) python-requests - http://python-requests.org/ python-requests-oauthlib - https://github.com/requests/re...
- ncftp backend (ftp, select via ncftp+ftp://)
- NcFTP - http://www.ncftp.com/
- Par2 Wrapper Backend par2cmdline - http://parchive.sourceforge.ne...
- rsync backend rsync client binary - http://rsync.samba.org/