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Re:Three months? For proxies?I know this is probably feeding the trolls but...
get a clue and stop trying to CONTROL CHILDREN by using CENSORSHIP
I know it's in vogue to claim that schools just want to control kids and stick them in little boxes. I'll admit that sometimes colossally bad decisions are made at a school or some seemingly arbitrary new school rule is added. But the truth is that there may be more behind what is done than you realize. Still, it's a fact that school and district admins are just people and sometimes people make mistakes even with the best intentions.
To be perfectly honest I would love to do away with filtering. I have things to deal with besides whether Johnny has the ability to see a nipple on images.google.com or if Cindy is sending emails to her new Lesbian girlfriend she met online who lives in another state. There are four things that stop me from yanking the filters and giving everyone unrestricted access:
- http://goat.cx/ - No six year old should stumble upon the nastier version of that site. Heck I'm not a prude but I wish I'd never stumbled upon it. Think a 3rd grader doing a report on beavers (the kind that make dams) won't accidentally see something they are too young to understand?
- Parents - After some kid spends four hours trying to bypass filters and manages to see a breast then they (or the kid sitting next to them) quickly goes home to tell mom and dad how they saw someone having sex on the school computers. Some parents are shocked that their "innocent" child was exposed to something like that and will call all of their neighbors to warn them. At least we can tell the angry mob that shows up that we are making an honest effort to block access to that stuff. Then usually they put down the pitchforks.
- Federal/State laws - While we can't be hauled in to jail for not filtering we can have money withheld. If you think your school is doing a poor job then how good do you think it would be if they had 1/2 of the budget to pay for things like teachers, books or electricity?
- PC Access - We had MUCH looser filters a few years ago. Then the lab assistants called to let us know that regularly every computer in the lab was in use by someone using chat or web-based email often for the entire hour.
Since I've been asked this offline I'll assume someone is going to ask here... "What's wrong with #4? Their parent's taxes pay for the computers, Internet access and even your salary!"
True, but so do the parents of all of the kids who can't get time on a computer to work on actual homework. I bet the parents of the kid chatting away every one of his study periods expects that their tax money is going to educate their children... not to let them search for Britney Spears look-alikes naked.
Censorship is never an appropriate solution to anything,
Nobody is shutting down web sites. Nobody is telling you that you can't watch videos of some chick getting it on with a horse. Nobody is censoring anything. You are free to view/read what you want online in your own home with your own computer using Internet access that you or your parents pay for. We're just saying, "No, not here, not with things funded by the public for the purpose of education." Schools aren't (and shouldn't be) your private ISP.
children should be guided and educated rather than controlled or restricted.
A great altruistic ideal and goal. But the truth is that a fair amount of time is spent educating students in our district about not only what they should and shouldn't do online but why. Things are taught like how it might affect their future career if they view porn at work, etc.. I believe that with a large percentage of students that is enough and they won't intentionally go to sites they shouldn't.
But if you take 1200 kids in one school and just say "shame on you. It's naughty for you to do that and here is why..." then there will still be enough wasting computer time to keep those who want to learn and do their homework off of the PCs.
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