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  1. Re:Some quasi-scientific experiments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    the interesting thing is if you misspell Tiananmen -> Tianamen and search on google.cn, you get images of Tankman, and articles about the protests:

    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=tianamen&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&aq=f&oq=
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=tianamen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=w

  2. Re:Some quasi-scientific experiments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    the interesting thing is if you misspell Tiananmen -> Tianamen and search on google.cn, you get images of Tankman, and articles about the protests:

    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=tianamen&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&aq=f&oq=
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=tianamen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=w

  3. Utterly spineless by Brummund · · Score: 1 · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    This is really disgraceful:

    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=Tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.com/images?hl=no&source=hp&q=Tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

    So much for "Don't be evil" :-/

    But interestingly enough, add a typo to the name and "square massacre":

    http://images.google.cn/images?gbv=2&hl=zh-CN&sa=1&q=tianamen+square+massacre&btnG=&%2332034;&%2322270;&%2329255;&aq=f&oq=&start=0

  4. Utterly spineless by Brummund · · Score: 1 · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    This is really disgraceful:

    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=Tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.com/images?hl=no&source=hp&q=Tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

    So much for "Don't be evil" :-/

    But interestingly enough, add a typo to the name and "square massacre":

    http://images.google.cn/images?gbv=2&hl=zh-CN&sa=1&q=tianamen+square+massacre&btnG=&%2332034;&%2322270;&%2329255;&aq=f&oq=&start=0

  5. Re:Some quasi-scientific experiments by nkh · · Score: 1 · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    You should search for the Tienanmen square (with an e instead of an a) and you'll get pictures of tanks in the chinese version of Google. Of course I'm not located in China, but still, I see tanks in the chinese web site.

  6. Re:contrast by sharperguy · · Score: 2, Informative · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=tankman&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&aq=f&oq=

  7. Re:Some quasi-scientific experiments by Jeeeb · · Score: 4, Informative · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    Trying that again in traditional Chinese:
    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0

    I don't speak (or read) Chinese but I do know Japanese and can recognise simplified vs traditional characters. I'm pretty sure that search is in simplified characters. I replaced the "men" with the Japanese "mon" which is identical to the traditional Chinese "men" and the results changed significantly. Link:

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%96%80&btnG=Search+images

  8. Some quasi-scientific experiments by phoenix321 · · Score: 5, Informative · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    Assuming we have an Internet surfer searching for information about Tiananmen square.

    Inputs can be "Tiananmen" or tian1an2men2 in simplified Chinese (which will not render on /. due to missing UTF8 support)

    Compare the Google returns for searches
    http://www.google.de/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    (note the difference in the TLD, safe search is off in all cases)

    Wildly different results, the CN domain returning no image of Tank Man and the DE domain returns nothing BUT him.

    Trying that again in traditional Chinese:
    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0

    Results almost identical, with only a slight variation in their order.

    http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0

    Results again wildly different. Both searches now return Chinese content, but the DE domain prominently features a YouTube link to our good old friend Tank Man, while the CN domain prominently features a city map and Baidu links, which are guaranteed to not contain something about Tank Man, I can assure you.

    This get's more pronounced if we search for Tiananmen in Chinese AND the year number 1989, which simply must return some content about the protests if the search engine itself is any good.

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

    Same result: both searches return pages entirely in Chinese, but the DE domain return a Chinese photo of the protests first and the CN domain returning only photos of The Party Leaders and happy soldiers.

    Let's compare the results with other TLDs
    Russia:

  9. Some quasi-scientific experiments by phoenix321 · · Score: 5, Informative · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    Assuming we have an Internet surfer searching for information about Tiananmen square.

    Inputs can be "Tiananmen" or tian1an2men2 in simplified Chinese (which will not render on /. due to missing UTF8 support)

    Compare the Google returns for searches
    http://www.google.de/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    (note the difference in the TLD, safe search is off in all cases)

    Wildly different results, the CN domain returning no image of Tank Man and the DE domain returns nothing BUT him.

    Trying that again in traditional Chinese:
    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0

    Results almost identical, with only a slight variation in their order.

    http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0

    Results again wildly different. Both searches now return Chinese content, but the DE domain prominently features a YouTube link to our good old friend Tank Man, while the CN domain prominently features a city map and Baidu links, which are guaranteed to not contain something about Tank Man, I can assure you.

    This get's more pronounced if we search for Tiananmen in Chinese AND the year number 1989, which simply must return some content about the protests if the search engine itself is any good.

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

    Same result: both searches return pages entirely in Chinese, but the DE domain return a Chinese photo of the protests first and the CN domain returning only photos of The Party Leaders and happy soldiers.

    Let's compare the results with other TLDs
    Russia:

  10. Some quasi-scientific experiments by phoenix321 · · Score: 5, Informative · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    Assuming we have an Internet surfer searching for information about Tiananmen square.

    Inputs can be "Tiananmen" or tian1an2men2 in simplified Chinese (which will not render on /. due to missing UTF8 support)

    Compare the Google returns for searches
    http://www.google.de/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    (note the difference in the TLD, safe search is off in all cases)

    Wildly different results, the CN domain returning no image of Tank Man and the DE domain returns nothing BUT him.

    Trying that again in traditional Chinese:
    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0

    Results almost identical, with only a slight variation in their order.

    http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0

    Results again wildly different. Both searches now return Chinese content, but the DE domain prominently features a YouTube link to our good old friend Tank Man, while the CN domain prominently features a city map and Baidu links, which are guaranteed to not contain something about Tank Man, I can assure you.

    This get's more pronounced if we search for Tiananmen in Chinese AND the year number 1989, which simply must return some content about the protests if the search engine itself is any good.

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

    Same result: both searches return pages entirely in Chinese, but the DE domain return a Chinese photo of the protests first and the CN domain returning only photos of The Party Leaders and happy soldiers.

    Let's compare the results with other TLDs
    Russia:

  11. Some quasi-scientific experiments by phoenix321 · · Score: 5, Informative · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    Assuming we have an Internet surfer searching for information about Tiananmen square.

    Inputs can be "Tiananmen" or tian1an2men2 in simplified Chinese (which will not render on /. due to missing UTF8 support)

    Compare the Google returns for searches
    http://www.google.de/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    (note the difference in the TLD, safe search is off in all cases)

    Wildly different results, the CN domain returning no image of Tank Man and the DE domain returns nothing BUT him.

    Trying that again in traditional Chinese:
    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0

    Results almost identical, with only a slight variation in their order.

    http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0

    Results again wildly different. Both searches now return Chinese content, but the DE domain prominently features a YouTube link to our good old friend Tank Man, while the CN domain prominently features a city map and Baidu links, which are guaranteed to not contain something about Tank Man, I can assure you.

    This get's more pronounced if we search for Tiananmen in Chinese AND the year number 1989, which simply must return some content about the protests if the search engine itself is any good.

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

    Same result: both searches return pages entirely in Chinese, but the DE domain return a Chinese photo of the protests first and the CN domain returning only photos of The Party Leaders and happy soldiers.

    Let's compare the results with other TLDs
    Russia:

  12. Some quasi-scientific experiments by phoenix321 · · Score: 5, Informative · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    Assuming we have an Internet surfer searching for information about Tiananmen square.

    Inputs can be "Tiananmen" or tian1an2men2 in simplified Chinese (which will not render on /. due to missing UTF8 support)

    Compare the Google returns for searches
    http://www.google.de/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&btnG=Search

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=cn&safe=off&q=tiananmen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    (note the difference in the TLD, safe search is off in all cases)

    Wildly different results, the CN domain returning no image of Tank Man and the DE domain returns nothing BUT him.

    Trying that again in traditional Chinese:
    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&start=0

    Results almost identical, with only a slight variation in their order.

    http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0

    Results again wildly different. Both searches now return Chinese content, but the DE domain prominently features a YouTube link to our good old friend Tank Man, while the CN domain prominently features a city map and Baidu links, which are guaranteed to not contain something about Tank Man, I can assure you.

    This get's more pronounced if we search for Tiananmen in Chinese AND the year number 1989, which simply must return some content about the protests if the search engine itself is any good.

    http://images.google.de/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%201989&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

    Same result: both searches return pages entirely in Chinese, but the DE domain return a Chinese photo of the protests first and the CN domain returning only photos of The Party Leaders and happy soldiers.

    Let's compare the results with other TLDs
    Russia:

  13. Re:not really by TeethWhitener · · Score: 4, Informative · on Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries

    Yeah I did a search on Bing for "" ('six-four,' a mainland reference to June 4, 1989, the date the army was deployed in Tiananmen Square) in simplified chinese and the tank man picture was still there under images. Though I'm also not in China. For comparison, the same search in google.cn yields a message at the bottom of the page saying something like 'According to local laws and policy, some search results are omitted.'

  14. Re:In other news by fulldecent · · Score: 2, Interesting · on Google Accused of Violating Copyright In China

    in other news, so does google:

    http://google.cn/mp3

    only accessible from certain countries' IPs

  15. Re:Let's add a link. by eldorel · · Score: 1 · on Dashboard Reveals What Google Knows About You

    Why not just use the localized language pages?

    English http://www.google.com/intl/en/
    Japanese http://www.google.co.jp/
    Chinese http://www.google.cn/
    Spanish http://www.google.es/
    German http://www.google.de/
    Swedish http://www.google.se/
    Bork http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/

    Note: If you happen to speak swedish, the the last one is a very perverted joke.

    You can easily find any other language that google offers simply by typing "google in $X" into any google search page.

    I've never been redirected to another page by these links, but YMMV.
    However, the default searches build into the browsers tend to redirect constantly, no matter what you language is set to.

    It was so bad I had to edit the search files on my system manually.

  16. Been doing it for years in China already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative · on Google To Take On iTunes?

    Google's been doing this in China for a couple of years already www.google.cn/music. It's ad-supported and provides completely free mp3 downloads and streaming, without DRM and with scrolling lyrics sync'ed to fast-forward and rewind and fully licensed content from all the big four record companies (including both Chinese and Western artists). It's pretty much exactly what you'd want in an online music service. It's also IP-blocked unless you're in China.

  17. it's google.cn, not google.com by suzerain · · Score: 1 · on Google Suggest Disabled In China Due To Porn

    Just a point of clarification that this applies to google.cn, and obviously does not apply to google.com, which those of us in Beijing can also see.

  18. Re:Some surprising results searching google.cn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on 20 Years After Tiananmen, China Stifles Online Dissent

    I just searched images.google.cn for "Tiananmen Square (massacre OR killing OR event)" and got a page that seems surprisingly uncensored (by China's standards). Is google.cn only censored when it detects IP addresses within China?

    Here's my search: http://images.google.cn/images?gbv=2&hl=zh-CN&sa=1&q=Tiananmen+Square+(massacre+OR+killing+OR+event)

    Not really, I am in Beijing, and if google" Tiananmen Square", famous tankman pics jump out.

  19. Some surprising results searching google.cn by MojoStan · · Score: 3, Interesting · on 20 Years After Tiananmen, China Stifles Online Dissent
    I just searched images.google.cn for "Tiananmen Square (massacre OR killing OR event)" and got a page that seems surprisingly uncensored (by China's standards). Is google.cn only censored when it detects IP addresses within China?

    Here's my search: http://images.google.cn/images?gbv=2&hl=zh-CN&sa=1&q=Tiananmen+Square+(massacre+OR+killing+OR+event)

  20. To help you all out: by Landak · · Score: 2, Informative · on Google Launches Free, Legal Music Downloads in China

    List of free online public proxies located in china, listed by latency:

    http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?port=&type=&ssl=&country=CN&latency=1000&reliability=9000&sort=latency#table

    "Easy listening songs" from google: here.

    Note that the characters "äè½½" mean download, and if slashdot murders that for you, it's the link in the penultimate column in the table. Going down the left hand side of the page are words that correspond to different genres. In order, from the top, they are:

    - New (release) music
    - Chinese music
    - European/American music
    - Japanese music
    - Pop music
    - Rock music
    - Hip-hop music
    - Soundtrack music
    - 'Ethnic' music (though presumably not the "Free tibet" rap...)
    - Latin music
    - R&B music
    - Country music
    - Folk music
    - Soul music
    - Easy-listening music
    - "JnB" music

    Enjoy!

  21. Google's music download address by pythonist · · Score: 1 · on Google Launches Free, Legal Music Downloads in China

    Google's music download service in China:

    http://g.cn/music

    and their very cool music screener

    http://www.google.cn/music/songscreener

  22. Re:Link? by hackingbear · · Score: 1 · on Google Launches Free, Legal Music Downloads in China

    I assume this one but the download link is blocked because it detects your IP's from US.

  23. Chrome hijacks 404s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on New Jersey's Cablevision Hijacks DNS Error Pages

    Since the article is technically wrong (though the actual problem - redirecting failed DNS lookups - is still unsatisfactory), let's instead consider something that really does hijack 404s: Google Chrome (nice to see google.cn doesn't censor criticism of Google too, eh?).

    But this is Slashdot, and Google does no evil, so everyone please put your defences as responses to this thread. Oh, and "it doesn't do it for long 404 pages" isn't any more a defence than "oh he only punches short people".

  24. Re:What does this mean? by cyfer2000 · · Score: 1 · on China to Regulate Internet Map Publishing

    "So from now on, publishing maps would require approval and (yet another) license from the state survey bureau."

    I know we /.ers don't RTFA, but now it looks we don't read the teeny weeny summary too.

    BTW, it is not "from now on", it is from maybe 50 or 40 years ago. And the Google Chinese map is at http://ditu.google.cn/.

  25. Re:Censor my search! by somersault · · Score: 1 · on Google's Shareholders Vote Against Human Rights

    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&ie=GB2312&q=Tiananmen+square&btnG=Google+%CB%D1%CB%F7&meta=

    Seems fine to me..

  26. Oh,The Horror! "Google.cn" still works (for now) by Zymergy · · Score: 1 · on China Bans Horror Movies

    Searching for "Horror" on http://www.google.cn/ still works... (But I am inside the United States):
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&ie=GB2312&q=Horror
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&ie=UTF-8&q=Horror

    -I am sure the Chinese will "kindly suggest" to Google.cn that they "voluntarily redirect" all search request traffic on these topics to the friendly 'Golden Shield Great Firewall of China'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shield_Project
    (Imperfect as the US might be, I truly love having a Bill of Rights!)

  27. Oh,The Horror! "Google.cn" still works (for now) by Zymergy · · Score: 1 · on China Bans Horror Movies

    Searching for "Horror" on http://www.google.cn/ still works... (But I am inside the United States):
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&ie=GB2312&q=Horror
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&ie=UTF-8&q=Horror

    -I am sure the Chinese will "kindly suggest" to Google.cn that they "voluntarily redirect" all search request traffic on these topics to the friendly 'Golden Shield Great Firewall of China'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shield_Project
    (Imperfect as the US might be, I truly love having a Bill of Rights!)

  28. Oh,The Horror! "Google.cn" still works (for now) by Zymergy · · Score: 1 · on China Bans Horror Movies

    Searching for "Horror" on http://www.google.cn/ still works... (But I am inside the United States):
    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&ie=GB2312&q=Horror
    http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&ie=UTF-8&q=Horror

    -I am sure the Chinese will "kindly suggest" to Google.cn that they "voluntarily redirect" all search request traffic on these topics to the friendly 'Golden Shield Great Firewall of China'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shield_Project
    (Imperfect as the US might be, I truly love having a Bill of Rights!)

  29. Re:Haha had us all fooled! by revengebomber · · Score: 3, Interesting · on Is China's "Great Firewall" a Fraud?

    Remember Tiananmen Square? Yes.
    No.
  30. Re:The state secrets he leaked by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful · on Letter Casts Doubt On Yahoo China Testimony

    Well, if the world uses Chinese Google, it just might not...

  31. Re:judge by jmashaw · · Score: 1 · on Google Makes Case to Join Microsoft Antitrust Case

    google does no evil! Don't you mean this: Google does no evil!
  32. Re:judge by jmashaw · · Score: 1 · on Google Makes Case to Join Microsoft Antitrust Case

    google does no evil! Don't you mean this: Google does no evil!
  33. judge by wwmedia · · Score: 2, Insightful · on Google Makes Case to Join Microsoft Antitrust Case

    doesn't the judge read slashdot?

    doesn't he know that

    microsoft are the evil empire!
    and
    google does no evil!

  34. Re:China by rentmej · · Score: 2, Informative · on Google May Close Gmail Germany Over Privacy Law

    Ahh - Close. Did you even RTFA that you linked to?

    Actually it was Yahoo that was outing anonymous users in China.

    Google actually has a good record of protecting people's anonymity in China (Per your article), they just doesn't give them all of the web. Which is kind of funny since you now have people who are realizing that their government is censoring.

    US search Tienanmen's square Vs China search Tienanmen's square

    So how many people in China really think that those are the only pictures out there?

  35. Re:i wonder just how successful this will be? by mattatwork · · Score: 1 · on Yahoo Confirms Beijing Blocking Flickr

    will people post the pictures all over in a rebellion, a la AACS? or will all the image providers cave a la google.cn, where an image search for tiananmen massacre returns pictures of puppies and gerbils...?

    I was curious after checking my /. RSS feed what pictures were being censored and found very few on Flickr that directly related to the massacre back in 1989. Most of the pictures were turist pictures of buildings around Tiananmen or of vigils held in honor of those who died. I only found a handful of pictures but none were "racy" like Jain Hua Li suggested.

    It seems like the greater tragedy in this is that people who were not there in the midst of the massacre will never be able to fully appreciate the loss or have much of photographic history of what and to whom it happened.
  36. i wonder just how successful this will be? by eyrieowl · · Score: 2, Interesting · on Yahoo Confirms Beijing Blocking Flickr

    will people post the pictures all over in a rebellion, a la AACS? or will all the image providers cave a la google.cn, where an image search for tiananmen massacre returns pictures of puppies and gerbils...?

  37. Re:I'd like to see more transparancy by mpcooke3 · · Score: 1 · on Looking Into Mozilla's Financial Success

    Google has been around a while now and has no real history of being dirty

    Well I'm not sure what you mean by dirty but I certainly wouldn't blindly trust a company that produced the Google-Ministry-for-Truth and Google-For-Domain-Squatters projects.

  38. I wish the AACS the best of luck by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1 · on AACS Vows to Fight Bloggers

    They're going to need it.

    http://www.google.cn/search?complete=1&hl=zh-CN&q= 09+f9&meta=lr%3D
    http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&q=09+f9&btnG=%D0 %9F%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA+%D0%B2+Google&lr=lang_ ru

  39. Re:If China really wants to help kids... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny · on Chinese Govt Limits Kids to 3hrs of Online Gaming

    Pictures at eleven.

    What are you talking about? All I see are happy pictures of happy people hanging around China's grand Tiananmen Square. It sounds like you've been listening to too many American conspiracies! Would you like to visit our special hotel for American conspirists?
  40. Re:This is a positive for Google by dscruggs · · Score: 1 · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging

    > http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+s quare

    And this means... what?

    In China, people don't search for the English phrase "tiananmen square," they search on one of two things:

    1. For information about the location in Beijing we know of as Tiananmen Square, they search for , the simplified Chinese characters.

    2. When searching for info about the crackdown in 1989, they search for the phrase , pronounced liu si, which translates to 6-4, as in June 4, 1989, when the crackdown began.

  41. Re:This is a positive for Google by chrnb · · Score: 1 · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging

    For a look at the absurdity, see:

    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+s quare
    Clicked it and found this one on page two:
    http://www.chinalaw.gov.cn/jsp/contentpub/browser/ contentpro.jsp?contentid=co214120157-

    I'm living in China and reading it just cracked me up, this is exactly the way they speak on CCTV9 (the english news channel here), And recently have been forced to read the same type of BS, ever since the cables broke in Taiwan and almost no foreign news sites have been available. for an example of what i mean check english.sina.com - hilarious sometimes

    And whats even worse it's seems like most chinese willfully goble most of all the propoganda they are fed on a daily basis. Cause they are so brainwashed that they simple don't know better.

    Another funny thing is if you try to talk to them about something wrong in China or with the government here, they will usually deny it, cause for them the worst thing is to lose face, especially to foreigners and on behalf of their country.

    Naturally the above issues are not as severe in the younger generation, although most of them are still severely nationalistic/patriotic even if they don't like the government. So the brainwashing from they are little kids are still working to a degree I guess.
  42. Re:This is a positive for Google by garbolino · · Score: 1 · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging

    To find the absurdity you should search for the term Chinese would use when searching for the Tiananmen massacre, which is not "Tiananmen Square". They would search for the date, which is June 4th in Chinese.

    That search brings NOTHING in Chinese! (But what you would expect in the international version)

    On the moral scale of search engines, what else do you have to do to be on the "evil" side of things?

  43. Re:Agreed.. but why? by eternalDRIVEL · · Score: 1 · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging

    When searching for "democracy" they actually get more results... and no ads. http://www.google.cn/search?q=democracy 98,300,000 pages http://www.google.com/search?q=democracy 95,900,000 pages

  44. Re:I disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging

    (a) The rest of the world can see that it exists, and to what extent. It's easier to find out what material is being censored.
    Google changed that. Nothing like a dirty secret if we cannot see just how dirty it is.
  45. Re:This is a positive for Google by metlin · · Score: 1 · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging


    Of course, tiananmen square student tanks return any results, unlike the same elsewhere.

  46. What they say and what they do by br00tus · · Score: 3, Interesting · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging

    I can connect to Google France, Google Japan, Google Germany and so forth. I used to be able to connect to Google China - you can even see it in google.com's search for Google China and the cache for it. But nowadays, it just redirects to Google.com. They don't want Westerners able to see what people can and can't search for in China. So what else is new, the corporate stooges are saying BS to the press, while in the back they are continuing to do what they do and are attempting to hide what they are doing.

  47. Re:This is a positive for Google by warrior_s · · Score: 1 · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging

    How about this? http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&q =tank+square&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2

  48. Re:This is a positive for Google by nkh · · Score: 1 · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging

    I think that Google should stay out of China if they want to be honest with their "no evil" policy but they still provide a lot of infos about the massacre if you use the other spelling of "Tienanmen": http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tienanmen+s quare Did they forgot to censor it or what?

  49. Re:This is a positive for Google by W2k · · Score: 3, Informative · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging
    It's still there. Just not in the obvious places. Try "tiananmen square student tanks".

    The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, also known as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, June 4th Incident, or the Political Turmoil between Spring and Summer of 1989 by the government of the People's Republic of China, were a series of demonstrations led by students, intellectuals and labour activists in the People's Republic of China between April 15, 1989 and June 4, 1989. The demonstrations centred on Tiananmen Square in Beijing, but large scale protests also occured in cities throughout China, such as in Shanghai.
  50. This is a positive for Google by Serveert · · Score: 3, Interesting · on Google Admits China Censorship Was Damaging

    How many other CEOs a) admit mistakes or b) state that dealing with the dictatorial regime in China is not in their best interest.

    But it was amusing to see the rationalizations from the Google employees and apologists for effectively collaborating with the Chinese government. Justify it as you will, Google was collaborating with the Chinese government, working hand in hand, to censor information.

    For a look at the absurdity, see:

    http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=tiananmen+s quare

    Sunrise Over Tiananmen Square

    Tiananmen Square is one of the largest city squares in the world. It is located on the central axis of old ... The Museum of Chinese History and the Museum of the Chinese Revolution are located on the eastern side of Tiananmen Square. ...

    When they take google.cn down then this will mean something more - right now we just have words, actions don't reflect what Brin is saying.