Domain: hackingnetflix.com
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They don't get it
This isn't about the use of disposable income. It's about having a huge increase in cost with absolutely nothing in return. Now, if they'd said that they'd finally ripped their DVD collection to streaming, or even somewhere near it, I'd listen. Or perhaps they're finally going to get more recent titles in line with Blockbuster or Redbox. But they're not.
This is a pure, unadulterated money grab. So I'm grabbing mine back before they get the chance. Canceled my service yesterday. And per http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2011/07/new-pricing-poll-what-are-you-going-to-do.html, I'm not the only one. Over 1/3 say they are quitting. Explain that to the shareholders, NetFlix execs.
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Re:And nothing of value was lost
someone needs to tell that to Netflix who's rolling out a new backend powered by Amazon's AWS
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Re:It's fundamentally flawed
You should try the profiles feature. It solves that exact problem.
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Re:DRMThere used to be a limit of n hours per month (where n was about 1 hour of viewing per $1 spent per month), but they removed this restriction a while ago.
There is still a non-revokable 8 computer license limit per account (http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2007/09/watch-now-limit.html)
The main limit though, is the meager selection of available movies.
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Re:Netflix Is A RipOff
for Netflix to have an automated system to throttle.
basically the CEO admits to having a throttle algorithm, and calls it a "trade secret":
http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2006/07/hacking_netflix.html
although it sounds like it is more of assigning priority's of high demand movies (as you noted.)
than holding back on shipping. Since Netflix has definitely already implemented the "flag high use customers" it would be trival to delay marking a movie as returned for a day, based on this flag.
I am almost certainly flagged as one of these high use customers, and I have to agree with the CEO's asertation of "#1 in e-commerce satisfaction" just above amazon.com whatever their currently doing with that flag is OK by me. -
Re:does the MPAA know...http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2004/11/the_mpaa_threat.html Pursuant to the Copyright Act (17 U.S.C Section 504(c)), statutory damages can be as much as $30,000 per motion picture, and up to $150,000 per motion picture if the infringement is willful. OK, let's assume one *wanted* to get those movies for a "willful infringement". I think that's a fair assumption.
:-)
$572,400,000! Ka-ching!
(it's still not on par with the AllofMP3.com lawsuit though [I wonder what happened with that one btw?]) -
Netflix
Flash is already soaked in the mainstream, so it'll be tough for MS to uproot Adobe from that position.
You're probably right, but note that they've already got one killer app signed up - Netflix. -
Netflix got it right
As long as you're using Windows and IE, Netflix's Watch Now offering is superb. It's worked 100% of the time for me. Though I'm no fan of DRM, Netflix took Microsoft's DRM and built something superb. If you want to see what it looks like, you can watch this video
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Re:Hmm.
As a followup to my previous post, lots of people have also been posting netflix addresses on this page (some as recent as this year):
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Re:I don't believe the throttle rumorNetFlix throttling is well documented and even admitted to by NetFlix in their TOS. When I was a member, there were basically 3 ways in which I was throttled:
1. They lied about what day they received a DVD back from me (adding 1-2 days to the time it takes for the DVD to show up as being returned on their site)
2. They lied about the availability of new releases (I would see "Very Long Wait" while a new subscriber would see "Available Now" for the exact same DVD)
3. They lied about what day they shipped a DVD back to me (for example, saying they shipped the DVD on Monday but actually shipped it on Tuesday or Wednesday).
Check out http://www.hackingnetflix.com/ for more information about NetFlix throttling.
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HackingNetflix.com
A useful link to add perspective on this story. This guy has been following Netflix, their practices, and their industry for some time. Of note is his opinion and the fact that renting from Netflix is still a good deal even if you are throttled. http://www.hackingnetflix.com/ Thanks to The Economist for pointing me to this site in a somewhat prophetic manner.
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Re:Statistical information about throttlingScouring the net to try to learn what I could about their throttling practices, I found the following site: "An Analysis of Netflix's DVD Allocation System"
I too have been looking for data about this practice. I found hackingnetflix where there were plenty of complaints. One person sent back 5 DVDs in the same return slip. When Netflix got them, they sent an email saying the first DVD arrived. On the next day, a second email arrived saying the second DVD was received. On the third day a third email was sent even though all 5 DVDs arrived on the first day. I will check out the link you provided to see if more of this deceptive behaviour is documented. Netflix is free to run their business in any way they see fit, but they should not lie about limiting the rentals through these throttling techniques.
I can personally testify about how slow they are now compared to the first few months. Last week it took them over 7 days to record the DVDs I sent back. I actually reported one of them as lost and they sent an email acknowledging receipt of it a few days later. This compares to the overnight delivery I previously saw.
This bait and switch tactic seems to be well documented. During the trial period, the service is great and the expectations rise. After a few months, they decide you have been getting too many DVDs and the service slows down. Now the DVDs come two or three days late. I wonder if the account is permanently tagged or if we can hold the DVDs longer to return to the previous higher quality service
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Re:subject
This stuff about Netflix has been known for a long time by their actual customers. I first read about it when I was comparing Blockbuster and Netflix and read this site. (I went with Netflix)
Blockbuster didn't have the same selection as Netflix and the free in-store rentals don't appeal to me, living 30 mins from the nearest Blockbuster. And Blockbuster is slower to deliver your rentals in general, not just when throttling. -
Re:I would never use Blockbuster
Cough! Cough! Cough!
Okay, I am at least half wrong, they have updated their policies to lie about it if asked:
http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2005/08/netflix_vs_b loc.html
http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2005/10/variety_bloc kbu.html
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Re:I would never use Blockbuster
Cough! Cough! Cough!
Okay, I am at least half wrong, they have updated their policies to lie about it if asked:
http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2005/08/netflix_vs_b loc.html
http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2005/10/variety_bloc kbu.html
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Re:Why use this instead of Netflix?
With Netflix, you're also essentially "getting DVD's in who-knows-what condition, in who-knows-how-much time from who-knows-who" when you consider the fact that after who-knows-how-many people have already had the dvd, you aren't guaranteed that it will be playable, and if you return it as unplayable, you will likely be throttled.
And even after throttling, you won't know which DC (distribution center) is sending your next flix, so it will arrive in who-knows-how-much time after the fact. Of course some of them arrive next day or 2 days, but it's not guaranteed. Plus, you don't own the movie (unless, of course, you burn copies... which is illegal and immmoral and hurts the artist and their families and who-knows-who else) ^_^ -
It doesn't matter...
Streaming, on-demand video is the future.
I think both of these formats have an uphill battle against the fact that we aren't far away from a subscription service with access to a library of HD-quality movies and shows...
This for example, was most recently in the news.
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Netflix PlayerIt's not a new story (and I didn't submit it to
/.), but the fact that they are testing the product and it looks like a Tivo login is interesting. Netflix really hasn't said much other than they have a deal with TiVo and the service will be "underwhelming."The screen capture also has the name of the new device: Netflix Player.
Mikek / http://www.hackingnetflix.com/
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Re:BB editing?I did some research into this. About 4,000 of the Blockbuster stores are franchises, and they buy the full, unedited copies of movies. My local BB is a franchise.
The company stores usually buy the "rated" vs. "unrated" editions of movies, such as Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle.
Your store is probably a franchise. Ask the next time you're there.
- MikeK
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Great Move for Netflix and WalmartThis is an excellent move for Walmart because it gives them the chance to exit the DVD-by-Mail business gracefully. They had between 100,000 and 250,000 subscribers, and didn't want to be in an expensive business during a price war (Blockbuster is spending over $100 million to compete). Walmart sells about 30% of all DVD's and this is where the bulk of the revenue is now.
Walmart is probably getting paid very each time someone subscribes to Netflix (Netflix pays $20 or more for each new subscriber). This could be a lot more profitable than doing the service themselves.
Netflix gets a bunch of new subscribers and the blessing of Walmart. While Netflix isn't predicting a huge amount of revenue from the deal, it's very strategic: Walmart is actually recommending Netflix.
I have more info and pictures of the Netflix and Walmart ads on my blog: http://www.hackingnetflix.com/.
MikeK
www.HackingNetflix.com
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Re:Canceled
This is as good a time as any to cancel my subscription. I really wasn't getting my money's worth anyway. Before it was choice between convenience and how much their sight design sucked but wal-mart is just evil.
I know I'm replying to flamebait, but don't you get it? YOU WON! WE WON! Wal-Mart didn't buy out the little guy. Instead, Wal-Mart decided they couldn't beat Netflix, and decided to cut their losses and make a deal while they could still pretend they didn't get their hind end handed to them.
Potential downsides abound -- Wal-Mart is notorious for its bullying of its suppliers. But Netflix has shown the determination to survive, so I think they'll make it. But I'll be keeping an eye on Hacking Netflix to see what happens next. -
Automatic Purchase Program and Franchise RevoltThey just changed late fees to an automatic purchase program. Worse, when you return the movie after you've "bought" it, they give you a store credit and sock you with a handling fee.
Up to 20% of stores are franchises and many revolted against the "No More Late Fees" program, causing customers to be totally confused. "No More Late Fees" commercials running on all channels and yet my local Blockbuster still charges late fees?
I've been covering this story and more at: http://www.hackingnetflix.com/
- MikeK @ HackingNetflix.com
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Is DVD fading away?They ask whether DVD is dying, as the sub-heading in the article. Here are some recent sales figures; judge for yourself:
Um...
Oops, sorry, MPAA won't release that information. I guess we'll never know...
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Re:This is true....and then you provide a link to a site that posts a document, contradicting your own statement. The other post was a troll and so is yours. From hackingnetflix.com:
Hi Alan,
Thanks for your inquiry.
We appreciate you taking the time to provide us with your feedback and comments. I sincerely apologize for the difficulties you've experienced and have forwarded your feedback to the appropriate department. Please be assured that we are continually striving to improve our service.
I have provided below some details of how we ship and process DVDs so that you can understand how our service works at this time:
We receive rental returns Monday through Friday, except holidays. We process nearly 100% of returns the same day we receive them. When we check-in a return, an e-mail is automatically and promptly sent to you to let you know that we have received your DVD.
Our goal is to ship you the DVDs listed highest in your Queue. We try to ship you DVDs from the distribution center closest to you so that you get movies quickly. Often, on the same day that we receive a DVD from you, we will ship the next available DVD from your Queue. In certain instances, your next available DVD will not ship until the next business day following our receipt of your returned movie. This can occur, for example, when your top choices are not available to you from your closest distribution center or the number of shipments to be processed by the distribution center on that day has been exceeded. When this happens, your DVD will ship on the next business day and may come from an alternate distribution center.
In determining priority for shipping and inventory allocation, we give priority to those members who receive the fewest DVDs through our service. As a result, those members who receive the most movies may experience next-day shipping and receive movies lower in their Queue more often than our other members. By prioritizing in this way, we help assure a balanced experience for all our members. Those that rent a lot of movies get a great value and those with lighter viewing habits are able to count on our service to meet their limited needs.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us.
Thanks,
[name withheld]
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This is true.This is true. The other post on this was moderated troll by the netflix loving mods.
http://www.hackingnetflix.com/
I noticed a significant decline in shipping speed in the 3rd month and have filed a complaint with my states attorney general.
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Really?From the site you link to, and in turn from Netflix Customer support on the issue at hand:
"In determining priority for shipping and inventory allocation, we give priority to those members who receive the fewest DVDs through our service. As a result, those members who receive the most movies may experience next-day shipping and receive movies lower in their Queue more often than our other members. By prioritizing in this way, we help assure a balanced experience for all our members. Those that rent a lot of movies get a great value and those with lighter viewing habits are able to count on our service to meet their limited needs."
As a netflix customer who gets a lot of DVDs, and whose DVDs have sometimes been slow in coming, this seems extremely reasonable.
Just my $0.02. -
Netflix is a Dishonest Company
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I have been a netflix subscriber for about 6 months now. They advertise unlimited accounts, but hold your shippments even when they are in stock to slow you down if you start getting too many. This is my last month. Can anyone recomend another?
I hope they do get tossed out on there butts. They deserve it. -
Re:How long?
Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the states of Kansas, North Dakota, or Washington are subject to tax.
Hardly a handful.
An interesting tidbit. I saw speculation over at Hacking Netflix that while rumors abound that Amazon will acquire Netflix, we'll never actually see that day because Netflix's massive network of distribution centers in all or nearly all 50 states would give Amazon nexus everywhere, thus making ALL purchases on Amazon.com within the US eligible for applicable state sales taxes. -
Napster "considering", Netflix
Right - and meanwhile, Netflix said (at their recent quarterly earnings call) that their online movie download service will launch in 2005.