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White Papers
If anyone wants to read more details on the "Zettabyte File System" they can view the white papers on ZFS self-tuning and QOS as they contain far more detail than the marketing article given.
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Links to real information
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Links to real information
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There already is an HFS as well.
Then why didn't IBM call its improved HFS "HFS Plus"? No wait, that would collide with Apple's HFS and HFS Plus, used in Mac OS.
It would appear that there can be only twenty-six distinct file systems. Then Microsoft went and innovated NTFS with Four-Letter-Word File System Technology, which actually was just a copy of IBM's HPFS, the first to introduce File System Named After a Competitor Technology.
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wow, I learn something new everyday
I'd never heard of this, but after some reading: Wireless over modems it's out there, and well supported. I can see it being a less touchy solution in that it's old school analog, but 40 miles? THat's hard to believe.
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*Extremely* un-novel
The original IBM mainframes worked like this.
Also, earlier this year hp released a 4-way Linux machine which does the same trick with twice as many users - and considerably smaller licence fees. -
HP Dynamo come to mindIt remaind me of an HP project named Dynamo. It allowed to translate and existing binary at runtime, eveng gaining some performance in the process. The demo/test was demonstrated on a PA8000 (IIRC). So it got PA8K ASM in, digested it (!), and come out with different PA8K ASM. Every translated block (to a branch point) was cached and reused if possible. All with minimum overhead.
See here: '99 Paper
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Re:Not Another Linux Distro
Assuming your goal is to create a pretty desktop OS like OS X, why would you run it on Itanium?
For portability's sake? Sometimes, it's a good idea to get your software running on as many platforms as possible. When your software is something like an OS (or close to it), that's a real challenge and it can point out a whole number of problems, from simple typing errors (I mean int vs long here) to serious design problems.
Itanium is designed specifically as a "RISC killer" for high-end RISC/UNIX shops (and it's failing miserably, I might add).
Failing miserably? Yeah, right. Itanium shipments have increased quarter-on-quarter at a rate unsurpassed by any other microprocessor including Opteron, EMT64 Xeon and POWER5. HP, Itanium-mover-#1, outsold every other server vendor yet again:
bit of HP PR
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Re:Spy-Blimp
Get a job in HP Research
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HP is inconsistent in this question too
Bah. once I tried to find out why the heck HP does not commercially support debian for example on one of their most-sold servers,
the proliant dl380.: proliant drivers
However, the following article says, that the internal development at HP _is_ running on Debian: ...and that since 2001!
Or here's the other URL claiming HP to be Debian-supporting: HP OSS site
still, they only provide their Insight Agent drivers for monitoring this nice hw for RHEL and SuSe. bah. -
HP is inconsistent in this question too
Bah. once I tried to find out why the heck HP does not commercially support debian for example on one of their most-sold servers,
the proliant dl380.: proliant drivers
However, the following article says, that the internal development at HP _is_ running on Debian: ...and that since 2001!
Or here's the other URL claiming HP to be Debian-supporting: HP OSS site
still, they only provide their Insight Agent drivers for monitoring this nice hw for RHEL and SuSe. bah. -
Support
I agree. Debian is wonderful, I use it at home, I use it at work. If your work is expecting to get Enterprise level support, you can get Enterprise level support for Debian with HP.
However, it sounds like your Enterprise has already standardized around IBM. As good as Debian is, I can't see how it's good enough to lose an enterprise support agreement, even if it's just a few machines.
Maybe you can threaten the sales people to go to HP if they don't amend the support contract to include Debian. They probably will know you're bluffing, but it might help. -
Interesting graphic and link on that page.
"HP ranked #1 in outsourcing"
... ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/services/spotlight/info/info_ week.pdf (PDF file)
I don't think I'd be advertising the fact about how good I am at outsourcing on a "please buy our support" page. It brings about bad visions of not being able to understand the person on the other end of the line. -
Go HP!Go HP, they support Debian.
PS: No, I am not an HP employee.
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Re:Quote from TFA
You can boot from a usb dongle, provided it's not a large usb hard drive (it gets tricky if it is)
HP make a fantastic tool for quickly setting up an emergency usb boot dongle, all you need is a win9x emergency boot floppy disk (images can be found almost anywhere, as long as it's a bootable disk) and it'll reformat the usb dongle, set it up to boot, and almost any modern bios can boot from it.
probably not something i'd recommend for booting to flash a bios, but it is good in a pinch. add loadlin or syslinux to the mix, and you can also boot a miniature flash-based distro like puppy-dog linux for recovery :)
I've recently been doing research on this myself, because i wanted to use my iriver iHP-140 to boot my system to dos (or, failing that linux) yet i've run into WAY too many roadblocks:
* syslinux cannot boot from fat32, and the drive is 40GB. (i can partition an extra partition in without detriment to the player, but that's kludgy)
* the dos usb stack DUSE seems to take like 300KB of conventional ram, so i can't format the damned disk with system files without win9x, which i don't have currently. (format really wants more ram, oddly)
* win2k can't format it to fat32, and can't make fat32 partitions bootable anyway.
If anyone's found a way to easily make a large usb disk bootable to dos without resorting to win9x, i'd like to see it, almost every method i've tried has failed.
anyway,
HP's fantastical usb boot-maker tool: Here at hp.com
(there's also another one that's 28 megs, but that includes bios flashing stuff for HP laptops)
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Re:This sounds great!
ERROR: Order of magnitude problem
With a transfer rate of 60 MB/sec, the Ultrium 460 is the ideal choice for enterprise-class data protection needs. linky
So, real numbers are max 1.2GB/s or 12Gb/s for the L700, not bad, but not that much faster than this transfer. And with the tapes you still have to transport them to the destination to make the comparison fair. -
Re:Interesting point...
At first I didn't think that you quoted the whole sentence, but you did. It starts with "For example,". It never says that they used a PC. Plus, I don't know of any computer that can survive outside of a server room that money can buy that has peripherals faster than what you can get on a PC. Plus, assuming that the data that was transfered from some kind of storage device (it may very well have been cached into RAM first, or even done in parallel from more than one computer), I don't know of any storage device that can handle anything near 7.5Gbps (7.5*1024/8 = 960 MBs). The fastest storage I know of is fibre channel that can sustain 400 MBs.
This is a pretty impressive feat that is pushing the envelope of all existing computer and networking hardware.
Also, at the end of the article it says:
The technology used in setting this record included S2io's Xframe 10 GbE server adapter, Cisco 7600 Series Routers, Newisys 4300 servers using AMD Opteron processors, Itanium servers and the 64-bit version of Windows Server 2003.
The AMD servers specs can be found here. I don't know if you consider that a "PC" or not. The best offerings in the Itanium department is from HP, and you can look at those guys here. Again, I don't know if you conder those a PC or not, but at least at the lower end of the Itanium family they use the same PCI architecture that PCs use. -
brand value !
I would not buy this for the same reason i would not buy the iPod from hp
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URL
I think this is the URL to it! http://h10049.www1.hp.com/music/us/en/ipod.html?m
t xs=home-ent&mtxb=B2&mtxl=L1 It's exactly the same! At the time of this writing, though, you could not access shopping.hp.com! Can anyone correct me if I am wrong? -
Re:yeah, try and buy it from their web site
I tried this, too
... and then tried "linux nx5000". That actually seems to work -- at least, the first hit brought me to a configuration page (http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/MiddleFrame.asp? page=config&ProductLineId=430&FamilyId=1776&BaseId =11024&oi=E9CED&BEID=19701&SBLID=&AirTime=Fals e that let me choose SuSE Linux (this reduces the price by US$50 relative to the default XP Pro).
That page also cautions that the DVD+RW and the Intel PRO wireless options are not supported by SuSE Linux. You can save another US$50 by choosing "no wireless", or pay an extra $25 to get a supported wireless option (which, unlike the default 802.11b only, also supports 802.11a and g, or so they say).
After playing around with the options a bit, it looks to me like the price range for a Linux-equipped nx5000 is US$1120 to US$3530 (of which almost half is for the second GB of RAM); a nicely configured version with the 1400x1050 display option, a 60 GB drive, 512 MB of RAM, 24X DVD/CD-RW, and 802.11a/b/g would cost US$1605. -
A little fishy?
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$265 rebate for WinXP version
Rather evil of HP to stack it up against the WinXP version which has a $265 rebate (I wonder if that's coming from Microsoft's slush fund):
Special offers: $265 instant savings on this nx5000. Offer ends 8/31
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/ctoBases.asp?Prod uctLineId=435&FamilyId=1593&jumpid=re_store/smProd Cat/PSG/promo/notebooks/nx5000/$265InstantSavings -
There already is one.
VMS went 64-bit at least a decade ago.
Great OS for English-speaking folk, despite Linus's hatred for it.
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Re:mmmm cores
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Re:mmmm cores
Here you go. Works on dual-core, seperate cache chips already. (HP PA-8800)
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Re:HP calculator are no more, really.
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Re:HP calculator are no more, really.
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Re:HP calculator are no more, really.
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Stupidest. Story. EverThis has got to be the stupidest story I have read on slashdot. There's a new calculator out from HP? And someone is making a compiler for it? WHOO-HOO, stop the presses!
Next story - Radio Shack has a new clock radio out.... and you can program the station presets YOURSELF!!!
I don't give a rat's ass about new calculators or compiler for them, but if this story IS worth posting why not include a link to the actual product on the HP website, or a link to the the hpcalc.org web site where people get off on this stuff and provide more background information.
Seriously, this DOES look like a great calculator for a student studying math or science, or someone working in a similar field. I guess for those people who already have the calculator to perform calculations and graph stuff (ie the things calculators are sold to do) the ability to 'customize' it might be 'cool'. But you have got to be one card-carrying, dyed-in-the-wool, geek to think so.
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FS: hp 49g+ calculator
Speaking of which, I am selling a spare HP 49G+ I have. Am in United Kingdom, bought from USA but remains unopened (i.e. original packaging, manuals, most of warranty remains, etc.), new style keyboard. Offers to tammy2100@yahoo.com (yes, that's a throwaway-spammable account
;-). I take Paypal, Nochex, cash, bank deposit, cash, whatever, and you can collect if close enough - I am on Sussex coast. -
Re:The correct pricing structure for most software
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Re:amd is niche??
I recently bought a programmable scientific calculator (HP-33S) that uses a single chip processor with an enhanced 6502 core as its CPU, along with RAM, ROM and LCD controller logic. The 6502 is from the same era as the 8080A and the 6800. It was the first cheap 8-bit microprocessor.
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Re:Steak in the heart of VMS now
Erm, I understand the porting effort of OpenVMS to itanium began a fair while ago. I really do not think we will see the end of OpenVMS any time soon have a look here for details.
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Re:Cool!
Well, yeah. I concur. Which is why I think a device like the HP iPaq 6300 series is a lot more useful: you have seamless Internet connectivity. WiFi is primary, GPRS is your backup, and Bluetooth is your PC connection. Why spend $129 to have a Palm that can only do two of the three?
(Yeah, it runs WinCE. Yeah, I hate that too. But I really want one nonetheless, because this can replace two devices with one, reduce my pocket clutter, and give me more functionality than the two devices it replaces had.)
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Re:how much
I could see the increase coming in a couple of potential places:
- If they go with a style similiar to the Compaq TabletPC, where you can detach the screen entirely. In this case, the miniaturization and heat issues could drive up the price
- Adding on the hardware to allow a rotation of the screen's image (so the tablet could be viewed in any orientation) could add to the cost.
- The biggest thing, IMHO, is that it could ismply be an issue of it seeming like a cooler and more enterprise/high-end usage device. Therefore, they might just charge more because they know people who need the technology will pay for it, and to differentiate it from the iBook/PowerBook lines
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Re:Grr..
Broadcom really needs to be blackmailed into releasing Linux drivers (or better, the hardware specs). That way we can have Linux drivers for the Airport Extreme and other Broadcom cards. The strange thing is that they have released Linux drivers for some of their Ethernet cards.
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HP 441
HP recently came out with their 441 solution which might be another option to consider. It runs Mandrake Linux, and you can have 4 users working simultaneously using one CPU.
Obligatory URL -- http://h40058.www4.hp.com/products/desktops/441/te chspec.html -
thinner than thin clients.. dummy clients
you might be interested in this PXES. version 0.9 was released yesterday but never mind that.
this will not provide you with a thin client but with dummy clients. meaning that the client boots from the network via a pxe enabled card (most modern nics support this) and therefore you can disable (or remove) the floopy drive, the cdrom, the dvd, and the hard disk.
translation: the user cannot physically access the operating system except thru the network.
its pretty simple to setup and can even be used with windows terminal services but i do not recommend that legacy OS. in fact, i will recommend mandrake linux for several reasons:
1. draksec will sandbox your users very fast without much interaction from you (if required)
2. if you are not able to set up the server side on pxes. employ drakTermServ. mandrake's dummy terminal solution that comes standard with its distro.
3. it comes with kde which has a kiosk mode available (you will have to do your own research i m afraid)
4. it comes with openoffice.org meaning that your users can also read and write word documents, excel sheets, powerpoint presentations, adobe reader pdf (write!) and flash swf among other nice stuff.
did i mention the dummy clients wont have an operating system? meaning that you will only administer the operating system from the terminal server.
furthermore, (2 or 3 years ago) largo florida has a similar setup for 400 pc running of a 1gb ram dual p3-900 server or something like that
and if you are really stingy with money go get the hp d441 4 monitors, 4 keyboards and mice and 1 pc.
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Re:IDE interface ?Any bets on whether this is actually probe storage? That could easily explain the claimed capacity, assuming that the technology is close enough to production quality to actually go to market.
I first heard about this stuff back in '99 or 2000. It's pretty neat stuff. The basic idea is that the limit to hard drive density is caused by the horizontal orientation (across the platter surface) of the metallic particles that represent the bits, coupled with the need to have multiple particles for each bit to avoid them changing state at room temperature.
Probe storage partially solves this problem by reorienting the bits in a vertical fashion. Instead of a spinning platter, it has a square chunk of substrate on which the particles sit. Instead of a head arm that moves in one dimension, the head arm contains multiple heads and moves in three dimensions---left/right and front/back to address a bit, then up and down to read or write the bit. By having multiple heads, it is able to read multiple bits at once and concatenate them into a few bytes of data.
Of course, this could be entirely unrelated, but it certainly would be cool if that turned out to be a viable production-quality technology this year.
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Re:Blah... marketing crap
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Re:Blah... marketing crap
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Re:The last thread on Xeons...
HP too offers workstations with both Xeon processors and Pentium 4's with EM64T http://www.hp.com/workstations/pws/xw4200/
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Re:hmm..I agree with you to a large extent, but my statement wasn't related to a one-off announcement by CA, though it certainly was a constitute.
Here are some others:
- HP and Open Source
- IBM Open source projects
- IBM Wont Use Patents Against Linux
- Software giants feel open source pressure
- Sun, Java and Open Source
- Nokia fights Microsoft by addressing Series 60 developer complaints
This is by no means a complete list. I wish I had more time for this post, but I don't think its worth the effort
I also have no doubt whatsoever that your statement is bald zealotry
Oh really? How is musing about the subtle change in tones of software companies towards open source a fanatical devotion to cause?
If the current corporate adoption of OSS is what constitutes critical mass (ie a few marginal projects here and there), then continue to welcome our current microsoft overlords..
Sure, corporate adoption isn't what we'd like it to be. But neither do we expect things to change overnight. But the very fact that rather than standing firm against it, or suing it, they have started exploring it, smacks of a change in stance and outlook towards open source software. Pretty soon they will figure out way to make money with this change of stance. Which is what the ultimate success of open source software will be - availability of a larger pool of free software, yet the people developing it being paid. -
What about the Alpha?
On the HP VAX site, they recommend to move from VAX to the AlphaServer. What happened to their plans to phase the AlphaServer out?
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Re:HP public denial in five ... four ...
Close. I see here in the top right corner of the product overview: HP recommends Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional. How's that for expressing confidence in Linux?
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Byers information
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Byers information
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Offers Linux yet still reccommends Windows?
Funny thing - I don't know if it's been mentioned already. Grabbing the model name, pumping it into Google and after "feeling Lucky", the first thing I see is:
HP recommends Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
See for yourself:
Google result:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=HP+C ompaq+nx5000&btnG=Google+Search
Hp's page:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/1186 0_na/11860_na.HTML
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Re:WTF? No Wireless or DVD+RW?
The NX5000 is a CTO model and hence there is no black and white "it comes with this, and not that."
"Wireless: Choice of Integrated Intel® Pro Wireless 2100 (802.11b) or tri-band HP W500 802.11a/b/g combo helps keep you connected in the office or on the road2. Optional support for Bluetooth®3" -
Re:HP makes good printers, nothing more.
oops, my bad -- thats an nw8000