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DM almost certainly exists.

Go on, tell us all about it.

I found this web page discussing a similar microfiche library, the Appropriate Technology Library, which appears to be available only on CD-ROM or DVD now, which is unfortunate.

I'm not sure it's the same thing; the earliest copies in libraries seem to date only from 1986 or so.

Definitely, those probes are trying to see if the moon is indeed hollow. NASA knows from the instruments they left there in the '70s that the moon rings like a bell when something hits it. It could mean it's hollow or has large hollow spaces within it. http://keelynet.com/unclass/luna.htm

This short story is one of my favorites and pretty much sums up how I think it will go:
Sentient Meat

Apparently, the story can be summarized as:

"But, back to our electric automobiles - in 1931, under the financing of Pierce-Arrow and George Westinghouse, a 1931 Pierce-Arrow was selected to be tested at the factory grounds in Buffalo, N.Y. The standard internal combustion engine was removed and an 80-H.P. 1800 r.p.m electric motor installed to the clutch and transmission. The A.C. motor measured 40 inches long and 30 inches in diameter and the power leads were left standing in the air - no external power
source!"

http://uncletaz.com/library/scimath/tesla/teslacar.html
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Tesla's_Pierce-Arrow
http://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=1062
http://waterpoweredcar.com/teslascar.html
http://www.tfcbooks.com/teslafaq/q&a_016.htm
http://keelynet.com/energy/teslcar.htm
http://keelynet.com/energy/teslafe1.htm

"What utter rubbish"

He was definitely on to something, e.g.:
http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/generator.htm

I am only saying what I said because I am talking about Tesla. If there's one person who could have done it, it is him.

Apparently, the story can be summarized as:

"But, back to our electric automobiles - in 1931, under the financing of Pierce-Arrow and George Westinghouse, a 1931 Pierce-Arrow was selected to be tested at the factory grounds in Buffalo, N.Y. The standard internal combustion engine was removed and an 80-H.P. 1800 r.p.m electric motor installed to the clutch and transmission. The A.C. motor measured 40 inches long and 30 inches in diameter and the power leads were left standing in the air - no external power
source!"

http://uncletaz.com/library/scimath/tesla/teslacar.html
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Tesla's_Pierce-Arrow
http://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=1062
http://waterpoweredcar.com/teslascar.html
http://www.tfcbooks.com/teslafaq/q&a_016.htm
http://keelynet.com/energy/teslcar.htm
http://keelynet.com/energy/teslafe1.htm

"What utter rubbish"

He was definitely on to something, e.g.:
http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/generator.htm

I am only saying what I said because I am talking about Tesla. If there's one person who could have done it, it is him.

A while ago I came across something called a Cornish Hydrogen Generator:

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/cornish.htm

Which is a similar type of system, except one of these was tested by BMW. All it uses is an aluminum wire and cylinder for electrolysis in a water bath. The only by product is alumina.

This suffers the same basic issue as the gallium solution:
Recycling the alumina.

This prevents it being carbon neutral at present, but it may be very carbon efficient. Also, by thinking about a global economy based around providing aluminum and recycling the alumina it may be possible to reduce the carbon to almost, if not, zero. The efficiencies of the system suffer, but if using solar or wind energy to be the base power source, the overall efficiency does not matter with renewable/free power sources. The hard (and this may be very very hard) part is making the whole system competitive economically.

Just imagine if it is real.. and we had something like this available:
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/teslcar.htm

We need another eccentric genius! :P

I found this article quite a while ago: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/ford.htm Model T Magnetic Engine - from TFA My contact said there were three fellows who got wind of this story several years ago. They secured a first-run Model T and found it did indeed have strange slots on the bell housing. Magnets were inserted and when they cranked it, the flywheel began to spin on its own. Based on this initial verifying experiment, they eventually produced a 40hp version which was self-running, using the same magneto system. A demonstration was scheduled in a larger city and two of the men drove the prototype to the demonstration, the third man was ill and could not attend. The demonstration went off without a hitch and was enthusiastically received. Plans and contacts were made for duplicating the prototype for further tests that would be followed by marketing. As the two men were driving home late that evening with their prototype, their vehicle was run off the road. The next day, their vehicle was found overturned, both bodies lying in a ditch with their throats slit and the prototype was gone. The third man who had been too ill to attend the demonstration packed up everything and went into hiding. Word is, this man is still alive, very paranoid, yet he has not given up on the principle and has gone even further in his development of the principle. I heard a lot of rumors about lots of prototype engines that are using alternative energy like water even small nuclear engines but either the inventors were bought out by oil company's or they were found murdered, had an accident etc.

Taking a more educated approach you have to look at the modern scientific research
that has been done in regards to the Casimir Effect .

http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/15/9/6

Merely one of the modern day brilliant scientists looking into this efect is Puthoff .

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/putnasa.htm

Please read the references at bottom of the page, discredit one doubtful, all ludicrously so .

Excerpt of nasa study:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research/warp/po ssible.html#vac

Zero Point Energy (ZPE), or vacuum fluctuation energy are terms used to describe the random electromagnetic oscillations that are left in a vacuum after all other energy has been removed. If you remove all the energy from a space, take out all the matter, all the heat, all the light... everything -- you will find that there is still some energy left. One way to explain this is from the uncertainty principle from quantum physics that implies that it is impossible to have an absolutely zero energy condition.

Add up the energy for all those different frequencies of light and the amount of energy in a given space is enormous, even mind boggling, ranging from 10^36 to 10^70 Joules/m3.

If you choose to call the research scientists at NASA quacks, that is your prerogative.

Zero Point energy absolutley sounds like fairy tale science, but every once in a blue moon
something comes along that truly stuns the world .

Like Warp Drive research being funded with this concept at the root of it .

http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=16902006

At times like this, Technology does approach being indistinguishable from what some call magic, hehe .

Ex-MislTech

Looks a little like an article published on April 1st, 1997... http://www.keelynet.com/energy/hydmills.htm

That brings to mind the following web page on the great airship UFO flap of 1897.

We are looking into the Dellschau manuscripts and further researches on this mysterious N.B. gas. From the work of Walter Russell and his development of the Octave Periodic Progression of elements, there would appear to be somewhere on the order of 26 elements BELOW HYDROGEN. This is TOTALLY CONTRARY to any modern understanding of chemistry.


Airship inventors originally tried pumping all of the air out of their balloons figuring the vacuum would be lighter than air, but then they realized they had to fill it with something other than air otherwise the container would just collapse. So they had to start looking for different types of lighter than air gas (Hydrogen, Helium, etc...).

Heck Reuters did an article on him back in 1997: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/hydmills.htm

In 1987, a gentleman in Cornish, UK developed a system (patented under US patent 4,702,894) that basically oxidizes aluminum welding wire in water, liberating hydrogen gas and precipitating an aluminum oxide powder into the water.

He sent a prototype to BMW in 1981, who ran a 2.0L gasoline engine for 70 minutes with no noticable problems, save for the problem of eliminating the oxide powder from the water.

Here's a link to a current mirror: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/cornish.htm

Read it, tear it apart. Only thing I noticed is that there's a minor error in the reaction formula.

CFC's are incredibly heavy. In order to reach the ozone layer, the CFC's have to be super-heated.

OK, the Holy Grail of solar power has been realized. Don't jump for joy before you clear the nails from the area.

Society is controlled by Big Bu$ine$$. Big Bu$ine$$ controls the di$tribution of Power to the masses (us!).

Cheap solar power destroys that fragile balance. Inventors around the world are constantly finding new and cheaper ways to create usable power. This will most likely be crushed and the inventors "canceled and removed" before anything can result.

Nothing to see here.

I can't wait until Tritium-D power modules are cheap enough for my laptop.

I've thought about making my own but radioactive stuff is hard to find...

Atlantis is located on Antartica.

Literature from centuries ago mentions that from the location, all oceans of the world can be viewed. Antartica has such a view: Pacific (which can be broken into Pacific and Indian oceans) and the Atlantic ocean.

This is from the book "Gravity is a Push" by Walter Wright.

1. Walter Wright is a very good friend of ours here at KeelyNet and we have finally gotten around to getting some of his papers typed up. Walter has been actively researching the PUSH gravity concept and has developed some astounding physical models to prove his point.

The gist of this aspect of the theories is that the axis of rotation of the Earth has changed. This is supported by modern science and archealogical evidence. If the axis of rotation was perpindicular to it's current position, Antartica would be on the Equator.

Oops that's Keelynet.com not .org

Using electric cars is the logical next step in our society, synthetic alchohol fuels are a good idea as well, but the problem with those is the flammability issue.

Forgive my ignorance, but how is there an issue with the flamibility of alcohol, that's different from the flamibility issues with regular gas? As I understand it, Alcohols are infinitly renewable, significantly less polluting, and can be used in most vehicles with only minor alterations (valve settings and different material for the head gasket or something.). Why isn't this being persued as actively as fuel cells? The only reason I can think of is that High schoolers would be able to pull up to the gas station and get their resources for the kegger that weekend, (and how is that any different than now anyway?) Just a thought..

And as long as we're talking about electric cars, here's the obligatory Tesla refference: Tesla Electric Car #1

Gravity is a PUSH! United States Patent Number 5,377,936

Walter Wright's Push Gravity: First posted on the KeelyNet BBS on February 15, 1992 as WRIGHT.TXT

Oddbooks: Gravity is a Push

the photos of the various parts and signage for his 'building power system' are here. I think it's the book 'Voodoo Science' that includes a chapter on it, also? (i think. Have to go home and check.) But this guy's a treat. I'm not surprised to find out about the heist. I AM alarmed that this guy has any credibility at all, but i guess there's always someone willing to believe...

the photos of the various parts and signage for his 'building power system' are here. I think it's the book 'Voodoo Science' that includes a chapter on it, also? (i think. Have to go home and check.) But this guy's a treat. I'm not surprised to find out about the heist. I AM alarmed that this guy has any credibility at all, but i guess there's always someone willing to believe...

Thanx everywun for prooving meye poynt :-)

Sentient Meat

So how many people reading /. this morning can explain how a battery works? How it really works?

OK, you asked for it.

I suddenly realize that I read (for example here) that it is common belief that blue is a soothing, relaxing color that makes people underestimate how much time passes by.

Blue skies, Blue ocean, no problems around...

Hmm, the standard windows desktop background is blueish too...

Here's the article from Scientific American

You should check out this link, which explains the fairly extensive work done with these devices (Ionocraft) in the 1960's. Here's a quote (sorry for the overexplained nature of the text):

High negative voltage is shot from the spikes toward the positively charged wire grid, just like negative and positive poles on an ordinary battery. As the negative charge leaves the spike arms, it peppers the surrounding air like buckshot, putting a negative charge on some of the air particles. Such negatively charged air particles are called ions, and these are attracted downward by the positively charged grid.

"Okay," I said. "But I still don't see what holds it up." "I'm getting to that," Yorysh assured me as he spelled out the rest of the Ionocraft principle. In their mad rush from the ion emitter to the main grid, the ions bump into neutral air molecules-air particles without electric charge.

The terrific wallop in these collisions hurls a mass of neutral air down-ward along with ions. When they reach that air grid, the ions being negative are trapped by positive charge on the grid. but the grid has no attraction for the neutral air particles that got bumped along. So the air flows right through the open grid mesh, making a downdraft beneath the Ionocraft. The contraption rides on this shaft of air, getting lift just like a helicopter - by sucking air down from the top.

Notice how they say it's been tested in a vacuum, but don't show any video of that particular test. Still look like a ionocraft to me. See this link

It was supposed to be an electric car that ran for a week without refueling at speeds up to 90 MPH. Tesla reportedly built a generator to demonstrate it that ran off of permanent magnets and vacuum tubes purchased at a nearby electronics store. He said the energy to power the car came from "the ether". The stories I've read have been a little mysterious, much like the man himself. This search found this link to an article about it.

>> I suspect that independant verification attempts will not work when using non-ferrous target materials.

Actually, I first saw this story in 1996. It was initially thought that the scientist had reduced gravity in an area that went further than was measurable, straight up from a spinning super conducting experiment.

They would not have even noticed the effect if one of them wasn't smoking a cigarette. It was the ciggie smoke that they observed behaving strangely in the area above the experiment.

Running upstairs, they noticed that the effect went all the way through the building, throught each floor, in the area immediately above the experiment.

I was actually dissapointed to see the story hushed up for further research after only a couple of months. I still have an archive somewhere of all this stuff.

Anywho, great to see this progressing. I just knew we were going to get some real gravity revelations in my lifetime.

Oh, here's something.

>> I suspect that independant verification attempts will not work when using non-ferrous target materials.

Actually, I first saw this story in 1996. It was initially thought that the scientist had reduced gravity in an area that went further than was measurable, straight up from a spinning super conducting experiment.

They would not have even noticed the effect if one of them wasn't smoking a cigarette. It was the ciggie smoke that they observed behaving strangely in the area above the experiment.

Running upstairs, they noticed that the effect went all the way through the building, throught each floor, in the area immediately above the experiment.

I was actually dissapointed to see the story hushed up for further research after only a couple of months. I still have an archive somewhere of all this stuff.

Anywho, great to see this progressing. I just knew we were going to get some real gravity revelations in my lifetime.

Oh, here's something.

Here's a link that explains how bees fly.

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This is probably all speculation, because I don't remember it having much convincing evidence. Intriguing none the less.

Um, that's Keely, not Kelly... :->

Try http://www.keelynet.com instead...