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Nice PowerPC Roadmap
Motorola has a nice overview graphic - you can also checkout a more generalized article at The Star Online.
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Re:Easy
Interesting you should bring up HDTV; I'm in the middle of setting up a HD PVR based on a G3 PowerMac I just bought on eBay.
My digital cable box, the Motorola DCT-6200, puts out a MPEG2-TS stream over its 1394 port. Using the VirtualDVHS package that's part of Apple's Firewire SDK, it should be possible to record HD video; playback will probably require something a little beefier than the 300 MHz G3, but I have more powerful Windows boxen that can handle that.
If you're a Linux guy, check out Linux1394; it should be able to handle both DV and HDTV. AFAIK, there's no working Windows solution for my particular situation just yet (Windows doesn't recognize the Moto box as being anything particularly useful; promised firmware updates from Moto may change that). These guys have been in beta for quite a while now, but no release date has been announced.
HD-capable PVR solutions should become more common in the next few months -- as of April 1, per a recent FCC ruling, US digital cable providers who supply HD services must, at customer request, provide a box that makes the HD signal available through a computer-friendly interface (everyone's taken this to mean 1394, AFAIK). -
-1 Wrong...
It is an ARM processor, like the ones Palm5 devices use. The i.MXL processors are ARM architecture devices. Interestingly, the Sony Clie TJ27 and TJ37 devices use the same 200MHz i.MXL processor. See this page.
Anyway, stop spreading wrong information.
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-1 Wrong...
It is an ARM processor, like the ones Palm5 devices use. The i.MXL processors are ARM architecture devices. Interestingly, the Sony Clie TJ27 and TJ37 devices use the same 200MHz i.MXL processor. See this page.
Anyway, stop spreading wrong information.
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Re:Economics, that's why
Yes and no. I understand what you're saying but they could have easily bought a cheaper CPU for the job. Why not use a Mot 68000? Why not use an Intel i960? The Mot 68000 has been used in everything from Macs to Cisco routers. The Intel i960 is still used today in most manageable Ethernet switches. The printer drivers only need basc RS-232 capabilities. We don't need anything fancy. They aren't going to hook up an Epson Stylus Photo 870 to this thing. Using an existing consumer platform and OS like x86 and Windows will of course be easier (not cheaper) to implement a solution on but it will not be a better solution in the end. Security and stability problems will haunt you. That we've already seen. I really only wanted to point out the CPU info.
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Re:Even with new owners...
What some wealthy company should do is make a cellphone based on an A500+/600 in such a way that it would run standard Amiga titles, include a decent LCD screen or LCD headgear capability - instant enormous collection of games (and apps for that matter) ready made for your cellphone (and of about the same quality as the high end custom made cellphone games today).
I doubt it's possible (yet) in such a small form factor due to the problems inherit in recreating/emulating the architecture (particularly the custom chips), but would be cool. -
Re:I like this whole idea
The new DCT-6200 HDTV cable boxes have firewire outputs. Some people over at AVSforum have been able to record from the 1394 interface on Mac & Linux boxen. A few have even gotten it to work with Windows.
I just got a 6200 this week; I'd planned on putting togther a Shuttle box to capture the 1394 output, but I might try the Asus box now; I've used many Asus boards in the past, and have been very happy with them. -
1900/1800/900/850 - Interesting.
I find it funny that slashdot linked to an article bashing ATTWS for not offering only 850 phones, when 1900(1800/900I) was the WORLD phone standard.
Now here's someone who wants a World phone, but most carriers have American phones with 1900/850 (1800 International) standard.
So, why isn't anyone blaming the vendors for no 1900/850(1800/900) phones? Motorola finally stepped up and did. ATTWS is releasing the Motorola V600 which is quad band this month, Cingular released the V400.
I tell ya, After ATTWS and Cingular merges, pick up a Quad phone, and have the best coverage everywhere. Tack on ATTWS's full nationwide EDGE/GPRS network and Worldwide roaming partners with EDGE/GPRS, life is starting to look good. Hell, now that SMS works between all major carriers worldwide, you can be truly global.
I'm really excited to see when ATTWS and Cingular starts working together merging base stations, coverage will be perfect everywhere. Cingular has the best customer suppport and plans, ATTWS has the best data network and data phones (Blackberry, Treo/etc).
Myself, I'm looking at the Nokia 6820, I just want the full keypad and nationwide EDGE speed.
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1900/1800/900/850 - Interesting.
I find it funny that slashdot linked to an article bashing ATTWS for not offering only 850 phones, when 1900(1800/900I) was the WORLD phone standard.
Now here's someone who wants a World phone, but most carriers have American phones with 1900/850 (1800 International) standard.
So, why isn't anyone blaming the vendors for no 1900/850(1800/900) phones? Motorola finally stepped up and did. ATTWS is releasing the Motorola V600 which is quad band this month, Cingular released the V400.
I tell ya, After ATTWS and Cingular merges, pick up a Quad phone, and have the best coverage everywhere. Tack on ATTWS's full nationwide EDGE/GPRS network and Worldwide roaming partners with EDGE/GPRS, life is starting to look good. Hell, now that SMS works between all major carriers worldwide, you can be truly global.
I'm really excited to see when ATTWS and Cingular starts working together merging base stations, coverage will be perfect everywhere. Cingular has the best customer suppport and plans, ATTWS has the best data network and data phones (Blackberry, Treo/etc).
Myself, I'm looking at the Nokia 6820, I just want the full keypad and nationwide EDGE speed.
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Pager?
Another poorly-chosen article title. To most people, this is a "pager". And here is a link to the actual patent application, rather than a generic link to the patent office.
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VoIP bandwidth management
'Course, there's no need to hack your router for VoIP bandwidth if the VoIP box handles it for you. The Motorola VT1000, the phone adapter currently being issued by Vonage, has a built-in one-port router with "Quality of Service" management. If you install it upstream from the rest of your network, it reserves adequate bandwidth for VoIP. At least in theory.
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Reception, reception, reception......are the main 3 features I want in a cellphone
I've been using GSM phones since 900MHz-only years around the world, and when I finally got a GSM phone for using it in the States as well, I didn't realize that I needed to be careful about reception issues. Apparently, 1900MHz (the main -and until recently only- frequency for GSM phones in North America) is not as good as 900MHz for rural areas. That means that, while it's probably great in big cities, it's no good elsewhere around the States.
Moral of the story: I got burned badly with an Ericsson T68i, which I had replaced 4 times before finally giving up on it ever working well as a phone. Sure, it was one of the first phones with color, bluetooth, PDA-like capabilities, it could even iSync with my PBG4 and my Palm, but I expect a phone first of all to work fine - as a phone! Is that so unusual?
So I looked and looked, and finally found a good independent source of information about phone's reception qualities (since no phone company nor cellphone provider will tell you anything about which phone works better in terms of reception: I've tried asking a lot of them).
I ended up with a Motorola P280. It does what I need, in order of importance:
- great reception on all 3 main bands (1900,1800,900MHz)
- SMS with enough characters on the screen at once
- it can sync phone numbers (even calendar entries?) with iSync (despite the fact that no documentation admits it, its icon appears happily on iSync's panel when connecting it with a USB cable).
- if necessary, it can be used as a GPRS modem (again, through USB)
:-)Apparently, Nokia's 3650 is a good phone despite the built-in gadgets. But the keypad... that's what I would not want to have when typing SMSs...
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Re:Vanilla Phones
Speaking of vanilla Motorola phones from Verizon, I love my V120c. Got pushed into Lake Chautauqua in NY (we were drinking on the docks) while it was on my belt. Dried it for a few days, and the sucker still works. That was back on July 4th weekend, 2002.
I took it in to the Verizon store a few months ago to get the antenna replaced. The techs were shocked that it didn't crap out after a month, let alone keep going for more than a year and a half!
Only complaint I have is the keylock isn't 100%: it locks and unlocks randomly, but otherwise my phone rocks. Has everything I need.
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I see trademark issues...
(6-hz at double voulme) COLD FIRE
Motorola might have issues with having their trademark associated with a movie about a chip designed to sabotage the systems it is installed in--ingenious plot or not. -
Symbian? In other news...
This development will enable Linux to dominate the
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Re:ClearCom?Here's your solution:
Motorola RECHARGEABLE FRS/GMRS Walkie-Talkies with 2-5 mile range. They last 24 hours easily on a charge (assuming you care for the battery), and additional batteries are available separately. Best Buy has good prices on these things. They claim 2-5 mile range, and from experience they handle going across a school pretty well and have better sound quality than those old 47 MHz Radioshack things (FRS runs around 450 MHz).
Motorola Headsets. Motorola has done a good job making sure their headsets work with their equipment. Stick to the (M) and you'll be fine. Ebay is a good place to look for these things, they'll have OEM equipment near wholesale prices. I have one of the 53725s, and it's great for when you're following another car. Picked it up for $17 on ebay.
Back in the day in High school, my friends and I A) couldn't afford cellphones, and B) didn't have cellphone service in parts of the town, including the school. We got a bunch of Motorola SLK 280s with rechargeable NiMH batteries (They used the same battery pack as the much more expensive and business oriented Spirit GT series) and that worked out great. These days the walkie talkies are retired, replaced by our Nextel i95s & i730s.
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Re:ClearCom?Here's your solution:
Motorola RECHARGEABLE FRS/GMRS Walkie-Talkies with 2-5 mile range. They last 24 hours easily on a charge (assuming you care for the battery), and additional batteries are available separately. Best Buy has good prices on these things. They claim 2-5 mile range, and from experience they handle going across a school pretty well and have better sound quality than those old 47 MHz Radioshack things (FRS runs around 450 MHz).
Motorola Headsets. Motorola has done a good job making sure their headsets work with their equipment. Stick to the (M) and you'll be fine. Ebay is a good place to look for these things, they'll have OEM equipment near wholesale prices. I have one of the 53725s, and it's great for when you're following another car. Picked it up for $17 on ebay.
Back in the day in High school, my friends and I A) couldn't afford cellphones, and B) didn't have cellphone service in parts of the town, including the school. We got a bunch of Motorola SLK 280s with rechargeable NiMH batteries (They used the same battery pack as the much more expensive and business oriented Spirit GT series) and that worked out great. These days the walkie talkies are retired, replaced by our Nextel i95s & i730s.
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Re:ClearCom?Here's your solution:
Motorola RECHARGEABLE FRS/GMRS Walkie-Talkies with 2-5 mile range. They last 24 hours easily on a charge (assuming you care for the battery), and additional batteries are available separately. Best Buy has good prices on these things. They claim 2-5 mile range, and from experience they handle going across a school pretty well and have better sound quality than those old 47 MHz Radioshack things (FRS runs around 450 MHz).
Motorola Headsets. Motorola has done a good job making sure their headsets work with their equipment. Stick to the (M) and you'll be fine. Ebay is a good place to look for these things, they'll have OEM equipment near wholesale prices. I have one of the 53725s, and it's great for when you're following another car. Picked it up for $17 on ebay.
Back in the day in High school, my friends and I A) couldn't afford cellphones, and B) didn't have cellphone service in parts of the town, including the school. We got a bunch of Motorola SLK 280s with rechargeable NiMH batteries (They used the same battery pack as the much more expensive and business oriented Spirit GT series) and that worked out great. These days the walkie talkies are retired, replaced by our Nextel i95s & i730s.
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The Right Way
Do the monthy pass bit that others have suggested, but don't give people a mag stripe card. Give em an RFID card that they keep in their wallet, or wear on a lanyard around their neck. Lock all the machines, consoles, whatever, until the user scans their pass into the reader next to it.
Program the security admin box to detect for abnormal pass use. If you tie a credit card to the RFID code when the person sets up their account, people could even buy merch and consumables with it, and cashless transactions are best for avoiding buyer's remorse.
check the link
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canopy group and motorola
Anyone seen the relationship between motorola and the canopy group?
http://mcg.motorola.com/cfm/templates/Pressrelease .cfm?PageID=1625 -
the PowerPC market
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What is behind OnStar?
Here's a little info on the hardware and infrastructure behind OnStar
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Re:Call me silly...ONSTAR(tm) system onboard... is there something special about it's gps reciever that would make it worthy to find one at a junk yard and purchace one?
Not really. The Motorola Oncore GPS unit has slightly more informative proprietary software to talk to than your average NMEA serial GPS unit, but it's no better than a decent stand alone Garmin GPS unit.
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Lots of prior work in the field
Wireless sensor networks are not new; there is even a textbook published recently on them (Wireless Sensor Networks: Architectures and Protocols). Many corporations have active WSN programs, including:
Ember and
University research programs, in addition to Berkeley, include:
plus those sposored by DARPA.
The IEEE 802.15.4 standard, available here, was designed to support such networks. The ZigBee Alliance, an industrial consortium of over 60 companies, is the marketing and compliance arm of the 802.15.4 standard, as the Wi-Fi Alliance is to 802.11. The vitality of the ZigBee Alliance, which had over 350 attendees at its recent open house in Silicon Valley, is an indication that this technology is moving from research into commercialization; the commercialization of wireless sensor networks is the real significance of the Wired article.
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So what?
This technology has been around for years. Motorola, for example, has made phones with native encryption capabilities built in, and plug-on encryption modules for normal phones. This goes back all the way to encryption modules for the original "brick" phones. While marketed towards the federal market, all but the highest (STU-III capable, I think the standard is) have been available to anyone who wants to buy them.
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It should have been called Marvin
It doesn't have a brain the size of a planet, but it's job is suitable for Marvin.
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Re:OT but serious, help please.
Well, I guess that when Motorola blitzed my college with chip books, their "advertising" paid off, because Motorola is the first place I looked.
Sensor Device Data Book... all of their sensor chips & schematics, scanned into a PDF. Troll the Motorola website and I'm sure you'll find the other chipset books... -
Re:OT but serious, help please.
Well, I guess that when Motorola blitzed my college with chip books, their "advertising" paid off, because Motorola is the first place I looked.
Sensor Device Data Book... all of their sensor chips & schematics, scanned into a PDF. Troll the Motorola website and I'm sure you'll find the other chipset books... -
Re:OT but serious, help please.
Well, I guess that when Motorola blitzed my college with chip books, their "advertising" paid off, because Motorola is the first place I looked.
Sensor Device Data Book... all of their sensor chips & schematics, scanned into a PDF. Troll the Motorola website and I'm sure you'll find the other chipset books... -
Save Some Time
To save some time, go here for the specs without the HTML junk.
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What they don't tell you...
...is that this picture is actual size.
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Re:Motorola is going for Microsoft
According to this Motorola press release, it's targeted at China.
"Hangzhou, PRC (NYSE; MOT) -- 31 October, 2003: The newest mobile phone from Motorola to launch in the People's Republic of China is raising the stakes for mobiles."
"The A760 is available in China's major mobile phone stores in the month of October and will be launched in other Asian markets shortly afterwards. (ends)"
Apparently they expect to sell it to someone there, but probably not everyone. Just like not everyone in the US uses the merged PDA-phone-mp3 players here either.
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Re:WhoowhooVoIP on Linux? Swell idea. Let's put the technology to communicate via voice on a platform used by about 15 people
You are a complete fucktard.
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Re:WhoowhooVoIP on Linux? Swell idea. Let's put the technology to communicate via voice on a platform used by about 15 people
You are a complete fucktard.
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Re:WhoowhooVoIP on Linux? Swell idea. Let's put the technology to communicate via voice on a platform used by about 15 people
You are a complete fucktard.
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Re:RIP BT
Bad link for the T61c.
The other option for Verizon customer is the Motorola 270c and phone module
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Re:RIP BT
Bad link for the T61c.
The other option for Verizon customer is the Motorola 270c and phone module
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Re:Motorola is going for MicrosoftThe press release was not pulled. It states "the companies will collaborate on a series of smartphone and Pocket PC wireless devices" Also available in german and danish.
You don't find it ironic if you type that line in a story about a REAL EXISTING **LINUX** smartphone while there is nothing but hot air and vapor about MS-smartphones from Motorola?
No. If anyone blow hot air here, it's you. The MPx200 was announced available nationwide on Oct. 21st this year, and can be purchased from for instance AT&T.
They lack support - again because everybody (rightly) believes that MS-smartphones are dead. It's a self-fullfilling prophecy. No support -> Everybody believes it's dead -> even less support -> It is dead.
Wrong again. MS mobile efforts was set back with over a year because Sendo dropped them in the last minute. An affair amusingly resemblant of what MS themself once did to IBM when they dropped developmenet of the 32-bit OS later known as OS/2. The comparision stops there, however. To think MS lost mobile momentum for good would be very silly. (BTW: I'm no MS fan.)
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Re:Motorola is going for MicrosoftThe press release was not pulled. It states "the companies will collaborate on a series of smartphone and Pocket PC wireless devices" Also available in german and danish.
You don't find it ironic if you type that line in a story about a REAL EXISTING **LINUX** smartphone while there is nothing but hot air and vapor about MS-smartphones from Motorola?
No. If anyone blow hot air here, it's you. The MPx200 was announced available nationwide on Oct. 21st this year, and can be purchased from for instance AT&T.
They lack support - again because everybody (rightly) believes that MS-smartphones are dead. It's a self-fullfilling prophecy. No support -> Everybody believes it's dead -> even less support -> It is dead.
Wrong again. MS mobile efforts was set back with over a year because Sendo dropped them in the last minute. An affair amusingly resemblant of what MS themself once did to IBM when they dropped developmenet of the 32-bit OS later known as OS/2. The comparision stops there, however. To think MS lost mobile momentum for good would be very silly. (BTW: I'm no MS fan.)
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Re:Motorola is going for MicrosoftThe press release was not pulled. It states "the companies will collaborate on a series of smartphone and Pocket PC wireless devices" Also available in german and danish.
You don't find it ironic if you type that line in a story about a REAL EXISTING **LINUX** smartphone while there is nothing but hot air and vapor about MS-smartphones from Motorola?
No. If anyone blow hot air here, it's you. The MPx200 was announced available nationwide on Oct. 21st this year, and can be purchased from for instance AT&T.
They lack support - again because everybody (rightly) believes that MS-smartphones are dead. It's a self-fullfilling prophecy. No support -> Everybody believes it's dead -> even less support -> It is dead.
Wrong again. MS mobile efforts was set back with over a year because Sendo dropped them in the last minute. An affair amusingly resemblant of what MS themself once did to IBM when they dropped developmenet of the 32-bit OS later known as OS/2. The comparision stops there, however. To think MS lost mobile momentum for good would be very silly. (BTW: I'm no MS fan.)
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Re:Motorola is going for MicrosoftThe press release was not pulled. It states "the companies will collaborate on a series of smartphone and Pocket PC wireless devices" Also available in german and danish.
You don't find it ironic if you type that line in a story about a REAL EXISTING **LINUX** smartphone while there is nothing but hot air and vapor about MS-smartphones from Motorola?
No. If anyone blow hot air here, it's you. The MPx200 was announced available nationwide on Oct. 21st this year, and can be purchased from for instance AT&T.
They lack support - again because everybody (rightly) believes that MS-smartphones are dead. It's a self-fullfilling prophecy. No support -> Everybody believes it's dead -> even less support -> It is dead.
Wrong again. MS mobile efforts was set back with over a year because Sendo dropped them in the last minute. An affair amusingly resemblant of what MS themself once did to IBM when they dropped developmenet of the 32-bit OS later known as OS/2. The comparision stops there, however. To think MS lost mobile momentum for good would be very silly. (BTW: I'm no MS fan.)
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Re:PPC isn't the right chip for this job
You do realize that Motorola SPS is an ARM licensee, and that the i250 platform mentioned is a Motorola CPU with both ARM and DSP cores optimized for wireless.
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correcting URL
broken URL - trying again: Link to press release in Swedish
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Motorola
Motorola struggling isn't news to anyone who watches Apple, nor is it news to anyone else with a vested interested in Motorola's semiconductor branch. But it's not like the company is beleagured. It's not like it takes Motorola's last gasping breath to release a new G4. The problem with Motorola's "struggle" is Motorola's attitude toward innovation.
Since the joint IBM/Motorola Somerset facility was turned over to Motorola, all innovation within its PowerPC division has stopped. "Don't mess with a good design," you say? Consider this: the last new cores Motorola helped to create were the the G2 contingent: the PowerPC 602, 603, 604, and 620 chips and their variants. Working with IBM on their last joint project, Motorola produced the 750, a tweak to the 603 core. Since then, every new chip has been based on something that came from that effort.
The entire G4 family is naught but a 750 core with a SIMD unit and a core ripped from the PowerPC 604. While not a bad chip, it's obvious that there was something inherently stifling about the G4's architecture. It's easy to understand if you look at the 74xx series as a 603 with major kludges thrown on top. That they even reached past 1 GHz is impressive (remember the 500 MHz fiasco?).
Motorola's new PowerQUICC III family (rumored to be the PowerPC G5 for some time) is also based on the 603 core, as were the PowerQUICC I and PowerQUICC II families. Zooming out for a broader perspective, PowerQUICC III and Motorola's automotive PowerPC 52xx line are both based on the e500 core, more or less a 603 core with tweaks to meet the BookE spec.
The above examples are not the actual problem, however, but a symptom: Motorola innovates rarely and rides the wave for as long as possible, even when it's clear that they need to get back to the drawing board. They've been extending 1994 technology for ten years, and while that may work in some cases (IBM still successfully updates its own PowerPC 750 variants), in the end it serves only to decrease the quality of its product. Not to mention that Motorola is shooting itself in its own foot.
In the end, Motorola's upper management is at fault for making the decisions not to innovate; the engineers and designers at Motorola do an excellent job of what they have to work with. Hopefully with CEO Chris Galvin's resignation the attitudes and practices of management will change and Motorola can produce some astounding new cores for the PowerPC family.
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Uses Linux, but does not expose it
Motorola's own page for the product does not even mention that it uses Linux. I doubt they'll officially support people trying to get a root shell prompt on it.
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no MPC7447 here...
It is just curious to see that Apple is not using the latest MPC7447 G4s (those found inside the newest Powerbooks) but the oldest MPC7445 , which include only 256K cache and generate more heat as they are produced with an 0.18 u technology (as opposed to the 0.13 u of the 47s)
The only reason I could see is, apart from differentating the models in terms of cache size, the future transition to G5 in the Powerbooks and G4-7447s in the iBooks. -
no MPC7447 here...
It is just curious to see that Apple is not using the latest MPC7447 G4s (those found inside the newest Powerbooks) but the oldest MPC7445 , which include only 256K cache and generate more heat as they are produced with an 0.18 u technology (as opposed to the 0.13 u of the 47s)
The only reason I could see is, apart from differentating the models in terms of cache size, the future transition to G5 in the Powerbooks and G4-7447s in the iBooks. -
But does it come with an internet connection?
Like the Motorola surfboards does?