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Re:Testing with mozilla
I know just the Mozilla plugin for you:
Checky
A single keypress (F10) will then open the validators of your choice (e.g. the W3C HTML & CSS validators, Bobby, HTMLTidy, URL checker, etc.) in seperate tabs, or windows if you prefer.
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Re:Live HTTP Headers?? - it's an add-on
It's an add-on, and the link to get it was posted earlier.
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Re:Feature requests
"view-source in a tab, rather than open a new window"
I'm pretty sure that MultiZilla will let you do that.
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Re:Validity checker and indicator
I know this isn't exactly what you're asking for, but Checky is a Mozilla Plug-in that will validate the current page when you press F10. It won't help evangelism, but at least it makes it easier for web developers to generate valid HTML.
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I'm a big fan of the html highlighting
It lets me glace at things pretty quickly to get an idea of what may be wrong, and saves me the step of loading it into a full blown editor. Plus, I can select only part of a document and just view that particular source.
I also like the http header viewer add-on mentioned in the article. I used to have to visit a website and use that to view headers. -
Re:Ya-who?
And, of course, in Mozilla there are also options... one is to set your search engine prefs for Google and use the search button at the end of the location bar. Another, and my personal favorite, is to bookmark http://www.google.com/search?q=%s and then go into the properties of that bookmark (using the Manage Bookmarks menu item, then Properties) and give it the keyword of "gg" (you could use g, but I'm used to gg
:). You can then type "gg item of intrest" to search for "item of intrest". For more information on that mentod, see http://www.google.com/mozilla/google-search.html.
For those who use Mozilla but are frustrated by the fact that the Google Toolbar only works on IE, you can check out the Mozilla version which is not produced or officially suported by Google, but does function. See http://googlebar.mozdev.org/. -
Re:pah, yahoo.com is totally useless
Google's HTML is stripped down, but the HTTP response headers on the main page are the bare minimum.
Using livehttpheaders on the Google logo shows these HTTP headers in the 200 OK:
Last-Modified: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:32:25 GMT
Expires: Sun, 17 Jan 2038 19:14:07 GMT
(The Expires header is probably a round number in the UNIX date format.) What this does is instructs every proxy server, squid and browser cache between you and Google not to bother re-downloading the image until 2038. Of course, you can probably make the browser override that.
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Someone did
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Real link - multizilla.mozdev.org
http://multizilla.mozdev.org How the hell this ended up as Google I don't know.
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Re:Please tell me this is a late April Fools joke.
Yes, I did RTFA, thank you. And I will admit, I initially mis-read part of the above quote:
I originally interpreted this part:
Phoenix is simply smaller, faster, and better -- especially better not because it has every conflicting feature wanted by each segment of the Mozilla community
As saying "Phoenix is better because it doesn't have all the different, conflicting features wanted by each segment of the Mozilla community."
And that statement I would fundamentally disagree with. If anything, I think Mozilla is still lacking some really cool features: user customizable key-bindings (via a built in GUI, not by hand editing XUL code) , user-customizable context menu (again, not by hand editing the XUL), right-click editing of bookmarks from within the bookmark menu, etc. But the Mozilla.org staff seems determined to resist these types of features, describing them as "bloat."
As far as:
but because it has a strong "add-on" extension mechanism.
I think that's great. And if the net result is that somebody can take Phoenix, and more easily add the types of features I described above, as a "plug-in", which can be optionally installed, then great.
What I don't get though, is how much better an extension mechanism Phoenix has, than Mozilla. People have managed to add all sorts of neat shit into Mozilla already, using whatever mechanisms are provided for doing so... don't believe me, just go browse around Mozdev for a while. Multizilla, Optimoz, Easysearch, etc. have extended Mozilla quite nicely already. -
Re:SPELLCHECKER ... ADD IT DAMN-IT!!!I have been using this Mozdev spell checker for about a week, and I love it.
Crispin
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Re:Not mentionned in the story ...
Favicons (site icons) have been disabled in the Personal Toolbar and the Bookmarks menu for a while, due to caching issues. They're still in Phoenix, and possible some of the third-party extensions at mozdev.
A search of the n.p.mozilla newsgroups turned up this guide to restoring them. I haven't tried it, though, so I have no idea if it works, or what it may screw up.
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Re:Smooth scrolling not on by default?
Thats kind of strange, since autoscroll works great on 1.3, and it scrolls smoothly horizontally and vertically.
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If they were cleverer, they'd opensource it....
... and release it as a projectbuilder tarball.
It'd make a great 'example' for coders to get familiar on, and Apple could take advantage of a large pool of folks who like browser innovations but also want to take advantage of OSXisms to make the most airwolf browser possible.
I mean, c'mon, what do they have in there that isn't a) trivial to do in Moz/Camino, or b) reliant on Aqua/Cocoa-proprietary APIs? They're not making money on it, they could even use the GPL MySQL-style, where they control the 'official' and 'officially-supported' product, giving credit but requiring unlimited license for inclusion in the official product.. Are they ashamed of the code quality, paranoid, or just short-sighted? (mercy, I HOPE they're not so dumb as to think they can _make money_ by _selling_ safari shrinkwrap?)
(not that _I've_ done much on OSX myself, but maybe it'd be easier to do more if there were better documentation and examples.. Or maybe I'm just fsckin lazy and unmotivated ;)
ps: when will Apple update its HTML display frameworks to use the KHTML renderer across ALL HTML apps? The HTML widget that Sherlock uses chokes on obtuse and complicated CSS, which Safari even now can handle.. -
Never Fear!
Mozilla can look like:
A kitchen sink
Mac OS X
Internet Explorer
the linux kernel. (it has as many lines of code as the linux kernel!) -
My Comment
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Open Source Internet Explorer
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Re:Two Way Street
But it wasn't humorous; it was increadibly rude to your users.
I refute that accusation. Having reread the document, there's nothing there that I would call rude. Blunt, perhaps - but those who were pointed at this document were those who had blundered in to the newsgroups or Bugzilla, without searching, reading the FAQs, or anything else, and demanded that we change our software to fit their wishes. In such circumstances, rudeness would be understandable - but the Spell Checker FAQ was an attempt to avoid it even then.
Why would I want to develop a spellchecker for Mozilla;
Yes, why would you? One's already been developed :-)
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Re:Say what you want...
(A nifty feature is to have IE 5.5/Windows as user agent string for difficult sites like Hotmail only.)
Yeah, that's a pretty nifty feature. I've never had to use it, yet. Most sites are no longer blocking users based on user_agent strings since that is so unreliable. I guess I might have to in the future so it's nice to know konq can do that. Of course, Mozilla can to - just edit your prefs.js to include the line:
user_pref("general.useragent.override", "fake agent string");
Or you can install the UA Toolbar. (doesn't play nice with Java)
BTW, Hotmail works fine in both Konqueror and Mozilla for Linux. And Mozilla blocks the pop-up ads. Actually, I wasn't even aware that there were any pop-ups until I tried it in Konqueror, since I also use Mozilla when in Windows (ugh). One of the first things I do on a new installation of Moz is configure pop-up blocking. -
Re:Automatic image resizing
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Re:Automatic image resizing
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Re:Spam filtering
I've been using it since 1.3 alpha, and frankly it didn't take long at all. About twenty mails of each kind (junk/not junk) to start with, and a few corrections now and then was all it took.
I've been very reluctant to running mozilla since it is, well big and bloated, but I started using it as my mail client to try this feature out, and when I found out that the things I missed most (the google bar in IE and the mouse gestures in opera) both was available and working great from mozdev, I have now switched to using mozilla almost exclusively. Somehow I don't percieve it as *that* bloated anymore, maybe I was just being stubborn... :)
Google bar && Mouse gestures. There are lots of other nice goodies there too. :) -
Re:Spam filtering
I've been using it since 1.3 alpha, and frankly it didn't take long at all. About twenty mails of each kind (junk/not junk) to start with, and a few corrections now and then was all it took.
I've been very reluctant to running mozilla since it is, well big and bloated, but I started using it as my mail client to try this feature out, and when I found out that the things I missed most (the google bar in IE and the mouse gestures in opera) both was available and working great from mozdev, I have now switched to using mozilla almost exclusively. Somehow I don't percieve it as *that* bloated anymore, maybe I was just being stubborn... :)
Google bar && Mouse gestures. There are lots of other nice goodies there too. :) -
Re:Spam filtering
I've been using it since 1.3 alpha, and frankly it didn't take long at all. About twenty mails of each kind (junk/not junk) to start with, and a few corrections now and then was all it took.
I've been very reluctant to running mozilla since it is, well big and bloated, but I started using it as my mail client to try this feature out, and when I found out that the things I missed most (the google bar in IE and the mouse gestures in opera) both was available and working great from mozdev, I have now switched to using mozilla almost exclusively. Somehow I don't percieve it as *that* bloated anymore, maybe I was just being stubborn... :)
Google bar && Mouse gestures. There are lots of other nice goodies there too. :) -
But why (redux)?I'm just whining here, but why does a new install have to remove all my gestures, autoscroll and other nice addons that I've collected? Every time I upgrade I have to hit Mozdev to get those again. Quite annoying.
Yes, I know I can save some folders and do other weird stuff to make sure this doesn't happen, but by god, think of the newbies. (Ok, so the last part was a bit over the top, but still...)
Oh, and with the new spam-filtering-rules Mozilla has now become my fav mailclient. Combined with IMAP it just rocks.
Thank You to all developers. Perhaps I should go file that bug now. The annoying one.
.haeger
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Re:What about bloatWhat is wrong with Mozilla?
That the idea to use it as a platform to develope portable applications (using ECMAScript + XUL) is catching on slower than some people would expect. This is a pity, because ungodly amounts of effort goes in making this possible, and still people see it just as a web browser (a large one).
Other than that, Mozilla-the-web-browser is fine, Mozilla-the-messaging suite is at least good enough, and Mozilla-the-javascript-debugger shows lots of promises.
I don't include Mozilla-the-IDE (Komodo) in the list, since it deviates too much from the usual distribution (even if it is Gecko Inside(TM)).
Now waiting for Mozilla-the-organizer (thru Calendar, planned for 1.4 ~ 1.5). Perhaps a Mozilla-the-file-manager would be something worth implementing (but Meow seems definitively dead).
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No XPInstall for Mac OS X
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No XPInstall for Mac OS X
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IEZilla
Make Moz1.3 look just like IE... with the IE skin.
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Actually...
For that, I suggest you check out StumbleUpon. It's a nifty little Mozilla add-on.
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Re:Inovate
1. Read the mozillazine forums. Especially phoenix users. It's a 0.5 release, fer crying out loud!
2. Install Preferential. It gives you a primitive, regedit-type editor for all(?) of the options in mozilla/phoenix, even the ones that aren't in the original preferences UI.
3. ??
4. Profit from being able to use your browser again. -
Re:Whatever...
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Re:Whatever...
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Re:What innovations?" Well you could head over to mozdev.org and see for yourself. To say that once something is mature you can't innovate with new features has been proven wrong over and over with any number of software projects."
Agreed. To me, mozilla is useless without optimoz and multizilla.
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Re:What innovations?" Well you could head over to mozdev.org and see for yourself. To say that once something is mature you can't innovate with new features has been proven wrong over and over with any number of software projects."
Agreed. To me, mozilla is useless without optimoz and multizilla.
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Re:InNovate
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Re:InovateThe Optimoz sounds like it has what you want:
Rocker Gestures: Hold down right mouse button, then click left to go back one page (or previous message in mail), and vice-versa to go forward.
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Re:Inovate
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Re:Browser Tabs
while the feature may be missing in the default installation of mozilla you can download the multizilla extension to obtain this functionality.
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Re:Browser Tabs
The MultiZilla extension for Mozilla has this feature (and many more) as well. Plus exact behavior of practically everything is customizable.
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Multizilla
Multizilla for Mozilla implements all of the different behaviors discussed in the article. The end user can choose exactly how tabs should behave, when they are opened, if they are replaced, if a favicon is displayed on the tab, if a close button is displayed on the tab, where the tab bar should be placed, and if the tab session should be restored on startup.
Funny idea that, letting the end user decide how they want to work...
Also, Mozilla's tabs were iniated because the developers liked Multizilla, but not nearly all the features of Multizilla were implemented in Mozilla's implementation. -
Re:Browser Tabs
I use tabs in mozilla, and IMHO their usefulness only becomse apparent with the instalation of mouse gesture support
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NewsNow and AdblockI subscribe since I like
/. and want to support it, however if you really do not like the adds use Mozilla Adblock. Works like a charm, for all sites not just /.For a look into the future look at NewsNow Tech sectionthis will give you 90% of the stories to hit
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The answer is...OK, probaby not the whole answer, but this article points out that...
Google News already has made arrangements with some leading news sites that use registration schemes -- such as The New York Times. Google News users who click on links to NYTimes.com articles at Google News go directly to the article -- there's no intervening registration screen -- even if they're not already registered at NYTimes.com. This works, explains product manager Mayer, because the site allows Google's spiders to crawl its content and include links in the Google service. When a non-registered user hits a NYTimes.com page, the site will recognize that it's a referral from Google News and serve up the content
So it looks like should be possible to roll your own brower that makes all of your connections to nytimes.com to appear to be coming from google. Wait a minute, it looks like someone is already doing just that. -
Re:Remember, tabbed browsing is not MDI.
First, Hyatt is not a UI programmer. He works on WebCore.
I see. He's a low-level guy without any real browser interface experience. Except for that Chimera stint.
He is a very smart guy, but he doesn't know shit about user interfaces.
Lessee, credibility with regard to browser interface design - the guy who started Chimera, or some random AC? Hmmm, thoughie. -
Re:Wow, just what mozilla needs
I *definately* recommend you get linky. I actually don't browse porn as much as graffiti, but the 'open all image links in one new tab' feature is a KILLER, and it'll probably be even more so for you.
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Re:Easter EggsThat's weird - I'm using the mouse gestures package from Optimoz, and the "open link in new tab" gesture works fine. But trying to do it in the popup menu doesn't. Huh...
Actually, attempting to click on the links period doesn't seem to work. I wonder if this is considered to be a "security feature" due to some scripting bug?
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Re:Easter EggsThat's weird - I'm using the mouse gestures package from Optimoz, and the "open link in new tab" gesture works fine. But trying to do it in the popup menu doesn't. Huh...
Actually, attempting to click on the links period doesn't seem to work. I wonder if this is considered to be a "security feature" due to some scripting bug?
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Re:Why?
First of all, gestures do not come with Mozilla builds, and I have yet to see a link, so you can find Mozilla gestures at http://optimoz.mozdev.org/.
Now, in reply to your comment, use your left mouse button or middle button--it's in the preferences that way. Or add a modifier key so that you have to hit Ctrl while moving the mouse. I personally use my middle mouse key for all sorts of tab functions (http://multizilla.mozdev.org/), autoscrolling (http://autoscroll.mozdev.org/) and for gestures, and have no problem with conflicts. -
Re:Why?
First of all, gestures do not come with Mozilla builds, and I have yet to see a link, so you can find Mozilla gestures at http://optimoz.mozdev.org/.
Now, in reply to your comment, use your left mouse button or middle button--it's in the preferences that way. Or add a modifier key so that you have to hit Ctrl while moving the mouse. I personally use my middle mouse key for all sorts of tab functions (http://multizilla.mozdev.org/), autoscrolling (http://autoscroll.mozdev.org/) and for gestures, and have no problem with conflicts.