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Berman Bill Dead in the Water?
Masem writes "Last summer, Rep. Howard Berman (D-CA) introduced a bill that would legitimize computer attacks by copyright owners on those users that they believed were illegally trading copyright material; the bill recieved a fair amount of criticism for the potental viligante tactics it suggested. That session of Congress ended without resolution of the bill, though Rep. Berman promised to reintroduce it this session. However, the LA Times reports that support for the bill is nowhere as strong as before, and many believe that laws already exist that allow copyright owners to punish illegal traders; as a result, Berman appears to be unwilling to support the bill further. For example, while the MPAA supported the bill, some of the liabilities introduced into it to punish those copyright holders that went too far in their attacks were too much for the Hollywood group." Unfortunately, the LA Times site requires registration.
i suppose timmothy dosent know the slashdot policy about linking to sites that require registration, except of cours the ny times.
-- john
Hollywood dropped support of the bill, Berman did too, coincidence? I think not...
No more legal counterattacks (at least, none this severe, for now)
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Who is Berman Bill? And why should I care if he drowned?
E000-VB14-G8RY
to anyone who has ever written a piece of code that is not trivial. There is no way that the courts system could cope with the millions of theives who use P2P daily. While two wrongs do not make a right, perhaps corporations that have millions of offences committed against them daily should be able to take revenge.
Username/password laexaminer/laexaminer.
Or I could just post the whole thing.
Rep. Berman May Not Revive Internet Piracy Bill
By Jon Healey, Times Staff Writer
Rep. Howard L. Berman said he may abandon his controversial proposal to help Hollywood battle Internet piracy, in part because of complaints from an unexpected source: Hollywood.
Berman (D-Van Nuys) introduced a bill in July to give movie studios, record companies and other copyright holders limited immunity from lawsuits if they used technology to block piracy on file-sharing networks such as Kazaa or Gnutella. The immunity would not have applied to tactics that damaged users' computers or legitimate file-sharing activities.
The measure, which died when Congress adjourned last year, drew heavy flak from consumer advocates who said it would encourage copyright owners to become network-snarling vigilantes. Nevertheless, Berman was widely expected to try again this year with a revised version of the bill.
This week, however, Berman said he may not revive the measure. For one thing, copyright holders may not need extra protection to combat file-sharing piracy, he said. And though Berman wasn't deterred by complaints from consumer advocates, the concerns voiced by Hollywood studios -- among the biggest beneficiaries of the bill, given their active anti-piracy efforts online -- suggested that Berman was climbing out on a limb by himself.
In particular, Hollywood's enthusiasm for the bill was dimmed by Berman's insistence on imposing new liabilities on copyright holders that go too far in attacking pirates. "And if they're not for it," Berman asked, "where am I going?"
His comments came in an interview at a conference on copyrights and consumer rights at Intel Corp. in Santa Clara, Calif. "It still may be worth doing," Berman said of the proposal, "but realistically, a bill like this isn't going to zip through Congress."
Rich Taylor, a spokesman for the Motion Picture Assn. of America, said "the essence of the legislation makes all the sense in the world." However, some MPAA members were concerned about the new liabilities, and some doubted the need for the bill, he said.
"There were no self-help actions being taken in violation of state or federal laws," Taylor said.
If it requires registration, why post the url? Choose another one.
In other news, crackers join such people as Eminem and Bittany Spears living in the streets because of record company losses.
Did they really believe that this bill would prevent piracy or did the BOFH think this idea up? Remember the plan to take over microsoft.com and sex.com?
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
so, what we're saying is, if a hacker makes up a song and slaps a copyright on it, that gives him legitamate reason to hack because "he believed the people were illegally using his copyrighted song???"
hrrm
And I had hoped that I could get my computer attacked and enable me to sue. There's nothing quite as fun as the threat of vigilante justice.
At least we still have the DCMA and the Patriot Act.
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This is not the same. For one the police are making the attack, not the 'victim'. Two this requires a court order or imediate need as decided by a police officer, which will later be reviewed by a judge.
As x approaches total apathy I couldn't care less.
They are paying CowboyNeal off. I'd post the whole article, but I don't want to register.
Someone else can RTFM.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
Damn it. When I first saw this article, I interpreted it as "Rick Berman is now sleeping with the fishes, see?" I couldn't wait to find out the gory details.
What a let-down.
-- "I believe the human being and the fish can coexist peacefully." - George W. Bush, 29 September 2000
Rep. Berman May Not Revive Internet Piracy Bill
By Jon Healey, Times Staff Writer
Rep. Howard L. Berman said he may abandon his controversial proposal to help Hollywood battle Internet piracy, in part because of complaints from an unexpected source: Hollywood.
Berman (D-Van Nuys) introduced a bill in July to give movie studios, record companies and other copyright holders limited immunity from lawsuits if they used technology to block piracy on file-sharing networks such as Kazaa or Gnutella. The immunity would not have applied to tactics that damaged users' computers or legitimate file-sharing activities.
The measure, which died when Congress adjourned last year, drew heavy flak from consumer advocates who said it would encourage copyright owners to become network-snarling vigilantes. Nevertheless, Berman was widely expected to try again this year with a revised version of the bill.
This week, however, Berman said he may not revive the measure. For one thing, copyright holders may not need extra protection to combat file-sharing piracy, he said. And though Berman wasn't deterred by complaints from consumer advocates, the concerns voiced by Hollywood studios -- among the biggest beneficiaries of the bill, given their active anti-piracy efforts online -- suggested that Berman was climbing out on a limb by himself.
In particular, Hollywood's enthusiasm for the bill was dimmed by Berman's insistence on imposing new liabilities on copyright holders that go too far in attacking pirates. "And if they're not for it," Berman asked, "where am I going?"
His comments came in an interview at a conference on copyrights and consumer rights at Intel Corp. in Santa Clara, Calif. "It still may be worth doing," Berman said of the proposal, "but realistically, a bill like this isn't going to zip through Congress."
Rich Taylor, a spokesman for the Motion Picture Assn. of America, said "the essence of the legislation makes all the sense in the world." However, some MPAA members were concerned about the new liabilities, and some doubted the need for the bill, he said.
"There were no self-help actions being taken in violation of state or federal laws," Taylor said.
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Are you saying that the MPAA and RIAA are police agencies? I think I smell an early post troll.
Not similar at all.
The police are the government. The MPAA isn't.
What if I run an Operating system and a firewall secure enough to keep them out. Will then I be guilty not only of pirating, but also of "protecting myself against legal privacy theft" ?
The MPAA and RIAA are not police forces!
Netcraft confirms it: the Berman Bill is dying
Another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered RIAA committee when Slashdot confirmed that support for the Berman Bill was at an all-time low. The Berman Bill is collapsing into complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Slashdot Popular Bill Poll.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict the Berman Bill's future. The handwriting is on the wall: the Berman Bill faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all because the Berman Bill is dying. Things are looking very bad for the Berman Bill. As many of us are already aware, the Berman Bill continues to lose support. Funding has dried up and red in flows like a river of blood.
All major surveys show that the Berman Bill has steadily declined in voter support. The Berman Bill is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If the Berman Bill is to survice at all it will be among RIAA executives and dabblers. The Berman Bill continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, the Berman Bill is dead
Trolling is a art,
I was saying that the MPAA and the RIAA were not police agencies. that's why the drug raid example in the parent is not the same as what the RIAA and MPAA were wanting
...I really wanted to hear the media hype up the not-yet famous "pre-emptive hack" phrase.
If you think
the bill recieved a fair amount of criticism for the potental viligante tactics it suggested.
viligante or vigilante
In all I've read about the Berman bill, I've never completely understood why vigilantism was considered OK in this instance. For instance, I would not be allowed to shoot a man should he rape my girlfriend; nor would I be able to steal back my property from a robber. Why are copyright holders special? Why is copyright infringement so heinous?
I'm a lawyer, but not yours. I wouldn't represent someone who thinks taking legal advice from Slashdot is a good idea.
Had the bill gone thru , would it be then illegal to protect my PC from possible hollywood hacking?
Can i go to jail for installing a firewall and blocking all ports ?
for the last time people, I am "frodo from middle eaRTH", not "middle eaST".
fewr of Our Base will Belong To THEM!! :)
You are not the customer.
Someone says that you stole something from them, only you didn't steal anything. Do you want this decided by a third party (concerned with upholding justice), or by the side with the biggest resources (muscle, lawyers, army)?
The Other Nate
It's one thing if the police bust you, I've got no problem with that. But this is about letting the the RI/MPAA come after you.
This is more akin to your neighborhood watch group kicking in the drug dealer's door. Maybe that's not a bad thing, but let's leave it to the cops.
Of course, dorm-wide searches with dogs are done (are they? I assume they are... I mean they're done in high schools...), which I guess is like what the MPAA is planning to do, but on the other hand, the MPAA / RIAA are not police. That is what we have to remember. Despite any shortcomings of the police, they are still public defenders, whereas the MPAA / RIAA are defending one thing only: the profits of their member companies. As such, they work for different masters and would be a lot less likely to be careful with your computer.
Karma: pi (Mostly due to circular reasoning in posts).
What the hell are you talking about? I think you misread something somewhere.
There is another decent article about the issue right here
Is this a refernece to things such as Palladium, "Trusted Computing", and DRM?
Or the ever popular google cache here
Probably closer to the neighborhood watch kicking in a door that they think might belong to a drug dealer in order to see if the person who lives there is actually dealing drugs...
Not yet, but we better keep an eye on these domains just in case.
I usually find that
username: nopass
password: nopass
works on most newspaper sites....
pretty easy to remember...
:P
you are correct. I misread something. I thought you were attached to one of the replies instead of the parent post.
I really don't understand the republicans on IP issues. Hollywood slams the republicans constantly, and these IP issues would be a perfect way to exact revenge. The GOP never seems to see it that way, though.
If legislation like this gets passed, I think we should all get together, buy a lobbyist, and propose a law that says when we think the recording industry is backing a crime against music (which would include the VAST majority of new releases), we should be allowed to attack them... Picture this: We catch wind that Ricky Martin has a new album coming out of the turd factory, we get to go drag some record company executive out of his house and beat him in his front yard. After that we fine him and jail him. I bet after a few "raids" like that, we would never have to listen to Avril Lavigne again... Maybe people would start feeling good about paying too much money for CDs. Hell, maybe the prices would actually come a bit closer to earth. Far be it from me to suggest violence as any kind of cure-all, but don't you think after wasting so much of our time with this crap instead of solving real problems, somebody deserves a savage beating? Make sure everyone eats something tonight and then worry about making sure everyone who hears it has paid for Puffy's remix of someone else's hit song. Maybe if I saw Sally Struthers do an infomercial featuring Celine Dion starving to death with flies crawling on her face... Then I would agree that something must be done. Since I'm sure the goodies in her dressing room at each performance cost about what I make in a year, I have no sympathy for her or anyone like her. How much is enough? Switching to decaf for the rest of the day...
Someday a real rain is gonna come...
The neighborhood watch kicking in the door that they might think might be a drug dealer and demand that they prove that they are not drug dealers by giving blood tests, urin tests, the bugging of telephones, and the installation of cameras in every room of the house.
Fight Spammers!
Congratulations, you're voting for politicians who openly take bribes. Back in my days, they at least did it in secret.
I believe the LA Times MAY have some of my own personal copyrighted information on it... If only this bill had passed I could break in and find out...
"Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons!"
on those users that they believed were illegally trading copyright material So whats next? will they be able to arrest you for speeding if they BELIEVE you may have spead at some point in your life? or mayble thell arrest you if they BELIVE you have tryed drugs...ya, this sounds like a great idea to me
The US government more than ever is taking a stance against anything resembling terrorism. If it looks like it, smells like it, quacks like it, then by God it wouldn't look too good for ol' fedgov to be supporting it now would it? Lawlessness like this is a form of terrorism and I wouldn't be surprised if Berman's GOP competitor accuses him of various things not the least of which is trying to legalize terrorism by the wealthy against the rest of us.
On a different note, let the MPAA continue such proposals! The more people see the kind of system they want the more they'll see them as nogoodniks. You win over people on this issue in my experience by showing them over and over again that these aren't cool people, that they're really self-righteous tyrants. I have no sympathy for all of the leftists in Hollywood who have no problem lobbying for Socialism, but who complain when we "redistribute their wealth." You can't impose a welfare state on me and expect me to even give consideration to the idea that I might be doing something unethical by copying copyrighted works for myself or my friends.
Click here or a puppy gets stomped!
This said, does the Berman Bill give me the right to haxor into any site that I believe may be harboring this data?
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
It's unfortunate how naive you techies are: such sweet innocence. Good riddance to bad legislation, huh? Well here's the slashdot word of the day: rider. Can you say rider boys and girls?
Rider - An amendment, usually not germane, that it's sponsor hopes to get through more easily by including it in other legislation. Riders become laws if the bills they are attached to are enacted. The House, unlike the Senate, has strict germaneness rules, so riders are usually Senate devices to get legislation enacted quickly or to bypass possible opposition.
Legislation is usually mostly good with some bad, this was simply bad on it's own.
"This isn't a study in computer science, its a study in human behavior"
shooting the man or stealing back your property would not do any good to the economy, in contrary to copyrights, wich allow company's to market their products at absurd prices as long as they are the first (and most of the time not the best) to get them copyrighted.
sPh
viligante methods
Is this like the quote, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it"?
MjM
I only mod up...
XKCD:Xeric Knowledge Comically Dispen
This ruins everything! I have been seeding the Internet for the last few months with copyrighted material as part of my three step plan to profit.
If this doesn't pass my plans are going to be reduced to a bad joke!
me karma am bad
You think that's spit you're drooling?
Unfortunately, the LA Times site requires registration.
;)
Somebody should make a blanket username/password combo for slashdot users. At the very least, you can throw their statistics out of wack. Or maybe they can draw some new ones.
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Copyright violation! Pay up Taco or I'll set your servers on fire, run over your dog and then sacrifice CowboyNeal to Lucifer!
Hate me!
I have exchanged numerous emails with my congressman (Rep Robert Wexler, 19th district FL) on this topic, as he is a cosigner of the bill. As recently as this weekend, I received another message from him indicating his ongoing support for the legislation. Perhaps if Berman drops it, this will be the end of the discussion. Nonetheless, /.ers may find this humorous:
I have repeatedly criticised the bill to him on the grounds that it is prima facie impossible for a P2P vigilante to launch an attack against a file trader without collateral damage to innocents on the same network who necessarily suffer loss of quality of service simply by virtue of having to share bandwidth with one more person (the vigilante). In spite of several attempts to put this idea into much simpler terms than presented here, the message never seemed to get through to him. He remains confident that by writing the law to explicitly forbid damages to nonparticipating networks or computers, that this will somehow make it so. It sort of reminds me of the legends of a proposal in the Indiana legislature (though this is probably just a Kentuckian joke) that pi should be exactly 22/7. It may be physically impossible, but goldurnit, we're gonna write the law anyway!
So, basically what they would do is pass a law that made it legal for copyright owners to disrupt P2P networks, but write it in such a way that it would be impossible for the vigilantes to exercise that right because they couldn't do so without engaging in prohibited activity: namely reduction in QoS for users who were not participating in the exchange. It's either a fantastic example of pure congressional ignorance of technological (heck, basic physical) reality, or evidence of a level of cynicism previously unimagined; that they would spend all this time tossing a bone to the *AAs with a rubber band attached.
Trouble making decisions? Just flip for it.
Suppose a piece of artwork in a gallery is copyrighted. You take a picture knowing that doing so is illegal. Perhaps you even do this covertly. You go home and you reproduce the photograph life-size and hang it on your livingroom wall or something. You may show it to a few friends, but you're the only one who has it.
One evening, armed burgulars hired by the gallery break into your house, and steal the photo from you. Well, maybe under the words of the bill, they might just take photos of the the photo hanging on your wall, but they still broke into your house. Imagine if that were legal. Quite scary.
Oh yeah, I forgot the part where you go to jail and reimburse the gallery for breaking into your house and pay them whatever damages they incurred from the photo that was hanging on your wall.
Rich Taylor, a spokesman for the Motion Picture Assn. of America, said "the essence of the legislation makes all the sense in the world." However, some MPAA members were concerned about the new liabilities, and some doubted the need for the bill, he said.
To summarize:
"We want to be able to attack random networks who we THINK are using copyrighted works - but if we are wrong we shouldn't have to face the consequences."
...And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me." - Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)
I have no sympathy for all of the leftists in Hollywood who have no problem lobbying for Socialism, but who complain when we "redistribute their wealth."
Amen!!!
Er, it's a plain fact that there are already laws for the punishment of copyright infringement. This makes it sound as if it's an unsolved mystery like sightings of UFOs or Bigfoot.
/. If the government wants us to respect the law, it should set a better example.
And though Berman wasn't deterred by complaints from consumer advocates, the concerns voiced by Hollywood studios -- among the biggest beneficiaries of the bill,
Why is that the only concern is whether some of the big sponsors are against a bill? (I know it's a rethorical question... but still). Who the hell elected this guy, may I ask?
I think representatives chose to ignore the voters, because they lack competition... I/my family strongly dislike our state Senator. We voted for her opponent, but she was not even close to winning.
They aren't?
*blink*
You're sure?
Just imagine, you could justify a DDOS attack on the RIAA because they *might* have a copy of your copyrighted armpit fart.
People who think they know everything really piss off those of us that actually do.
Actually searching dorm rooms randomly is illegal too. Even if they bring dogs to the campus and the dog smells something in the room the police do not have a right to search the dorm room. I believe it is a problem because they started searching (with the dogs) before they had a reason too. Unless your reason is that some college students are likely to have drugs. Unfortenatley its the some that gives problems.
Surprisingly enough sometimes things like this do happen. Especially at highschools. Police will come in and do locker searches. Use dogs, or do a "random" search. Believe it or not lockers are private property when a combination is given to one student to keep his personal possessions in. When cops do things like this they are playing with fire it only takes one bored lawyer who wants to make a couple of million off of the state.
I rember this because they actually tried to do the locker searches at my highschool about 10 years ago (when i was in high school). Luckily one of the most famous lawyer from NY had a daughter that went to school with me. The lawyer filed suit so fast the principle didn't know what to do. After the school's lawyers went over it they decided it was against the law. The principle apologized to everyone for thinking about doing it. And the rest of my school was followed by lots of teachers and administration being very aware of my personal rights.
Although i hate how law suits are so predominent in america, i must admit it really did make for a nice schooling environment.
The courts can't possibly handle all the petty vandalism cases. Perhaps we should allow all the people that have ever had their fences painted go after the perpetrators themselves, and break their hands so they can't tag anymore.
Revenge is exactly contrary to what a law of any kind should propose. Making anrachy legal is almost an oxymoron, but that is exactly what this, and the DMCA (with its clause forcing ISP's to enforce the law as interpreted by the complaintant or risk the same punishment as the actual thief) are trying to do.
We can't expect corporations to do the right thing in their normal business. Corporations have no ethics. The stock holders hide behind the board, the board hides behind the stockholders. No one will be held accountable except for fines assesed. Is this the mindless, ethical-less entity you want doling out your punishments?
Naive? Us? ;)
;)
Seriously, you can't paint all of Slashdot with one brush. Nope, it takes several brushes, multiple coats, and you still miss a few highly mobile spots. After all, you've got youngsters still in school, college students, and old hands with a decade or two or more of experience from the US, Canada, and other parts of the world. Some are going to be a bit naive, but not all of us.
As for the rider idea, sorry, it's been tried already. A version of this bill was first attempted as a rider to the USA PATRIOT Act. Congress had enough wisdom to detach it before the act was passed. A great pity for the cause of liberty that the whole act was not tossed in the round file.
It flopped as both a rider and a bill. I doubt it has a ghost of a chance of passing now without intervention from on high. Disney would have to do some serious shrub worship, both in financial contributions and a movie about a heroic planting on fire with a courageous crusade to topple evildoers worldwide.
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
George W. Bush, December 18, 2002
"The path of peace is yours to discover for eternity."
Japanese version of "Mothra" (1961)
Am I kidding?
Well what's to stop them? The BSA thinks they are the bloody imperial stormtroopers, showing up and forcing "audits" without any authority at all.
What's to stop the **AA from doing the same? It's not like the U.S. Gov't will stop them.
I have been emailing my reps up in DC about this approximately once a month. Hey maybe they actually listened....
Nah...
(My wife's voice) Wake up Honey. You need to go to work.
My other car is a motorcycle!
I wonder what the LA Times marketing department thinks about all those 90 year-old Female CEOs living in Afghanistan?
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
Perhaps the death of this bill is better for the record industry. Think about it: if the RIAA can hack, then hackers' attention will be focused even more on the RIAA. Instead of DOSing their site, some script kiddie will find a way to *really* do some damage. Hell: it'd be funny to see their latest payola list on tsg. I can see it now:
KRAP: $5000 for playing Avril Lavigne 300 times a day
WJNK: $10000 for playing anything by Britney
and so-on.
Oh, wait, they don't need to pay all those radio stations individually...one check made out to ClearChannel will do nicely these days...
"You done taken a wrong turn."
-Bill McKinney, in Deliverance
"We, the ***people*** of the United States..."
Whose country is it again?
I was looking forward to hacking a lot of the RIAA and MPAA computers looking for works Copyrighted by me. Hey, I have plenty of probable cause, they've already posted numerous articles how they use the file trading software to browse for their Copyrighted material, how do I know they didn't download mine off it while they were at it? :)
..There's a-dooin's a-transpirin'
...and would that plan be something like:
Phase 1: Underpants/Seeding
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit
Sorry...had to get an underpants gnomes reference in there...
"You done taken a wrong turn."
-Bill McKinney, in Deliverance
Actually, it damn near happened, as it was brought up for debate and passed in the house. The only thing that killed it was the lucky presence of a (real) mathematician who was there for other reasons, who had the time to "educate" the senators.
Some things never change.
Also, the math the sponsor introduces is convoluted and wrong, and he came up with 3.2.
Links: Here and Here
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
i think that drug use is encouraged in a dorm setting... keeps the complainers content...
sig is broken try again tomorrow
Here is an even more lucrative idea. Use the bill for corporate espionage.
Make up some copyrighted material of your very own. Search for violations of your copyright on, for example, the computer networks of GE. Some of their employees might have installed file sharing software on their corporate PC's or laptops. This bill gives you the right to search all this legally.
Just by accident, while searching for your copyright, you come across a file containing the specifications of a tender for a billion dollar power plant that GE is always building somewhere or other.
Sell the information to the highest bidder. Laugh like crazy when GE is outbid on the contract by a dollar!!!
Any bill that gives you the right to search for one kind of file must give you the right to search for ANY type of file. Otherwise how can you tell that this "any" type of file isn't hiding your "intellectual property"???
How long will it take for RIAA to discover that they can make far more off of corporate espionage than off of music?
And I DIDN'T vote for him this time around. And I won't next time. Berman is the congressperson for the East San Fernando Valley. We need to find a geek-friendly candidate, preferably Latino, to take him on next time he stands for re-election. And I WOULD vote for a pro-Choice, pro-Tech Republican.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
unlike others who genuinely belive in this type of thing. It probably seemed like a fun thing to do at the time.
---- oh no - it's the RIAA and their $100000000 fine. I'm gonna take that so seriously...
Here's a good one check out this about CORDS
" The U.S. Copyright Office Electronic Registration Recordation and Deposit System is the Copyright Office's system for registering claims over the Internet. Through the Internet, copyrighted works become available throughout the world instantaneously. As copying these digital works becomes easier, copyright protection is imperative."
Actually this could be cool, however following it to a illogical conclusion there are loopholes for massive abuse. A media file would have a locatable Digital signature that a filtering router could read. Check against a database for known bootlegs and you got your filter. (hmmm, run it on a linux box and finally get some RIAA/Evil use out of those longhaired geeks)
If no Digital sig is found then implant one and forward the file and new sig so the RIAA can add it to the registry for later review. Cause it could be a new burn of the latest N'Sync song or that one about Fred Durst telling Britney Spears to drop dead. you could plot the movement of files from user/site to user/site and show who gave what to who and when. You end up with a nifty tracking scheme.
This is a classic 'Man in the Middle' attack, one of those things the RIAA/MPAA wanted to do not so long ago.
Opps, You would have a way to hit them back. Say your ISP, the UofWhereEver goes and alters a music file with a fingerprint then they are subverting your property. If the file is legally obtained say self-produced then the original artist (you) will have a very clear case for copyright infringement. They will have created and distributed a reproduction of your recording for 'Commercial Gain' (acting as an agent for a speculative RIAA lawsuit), which is 99.94%, exactly the same as your copyrighted material.
So they have just violated Federal Copyright law by clandestinely adding a digital fingerprint. You can extract this new tag by doing a diff of the file against the orginal. Even a certain lackwitted judge in say Pennsylvania would be able to understand it then.
yes, this is three - The test continues and I get to offhandedly insult a boneheaded judge, daring contempt of court once more.
Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
The Democrats .
The party of the DMCA and CBDTPA.
The party of Al "Tawanya Brawley" Sharpton.
But they care about the "little people" and support abortion rights...
(Wait, didn't Alec Baldwin say he was going to go away, too?)
Don't Democrats always make sense?
"The time has come for us to end the sanctions against Iraq, because those sanctions punish the people of Iraq for having Saddam Hussein as their leader. These sanctions have been instrumental in causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children."--Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D., Ohio), The Progressive, November 2002
"Saddam Hussein should be removed from power. . . . I think the way that you do it is continue to use sanctions which thwart his efforts to grow."--presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, "Meet the Press," Feb. 23, 2003
Actually, if you want a good rational approximation, try the one discovered by the Ancient Chinese: 355/113. Accurate to seven digits, which is more than most people bother with when using decimal approximations!
How about this: Send an email
I believe Echelon already possesses quite a few emails copyrighted by me.
Do you care about the security of your wireless mouse?
'viligante'
If you read that like I do, it sorta makes sense.
Same syllables, different placement.
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
Yeah, good idea, let them tinker with whatever I have in my computer, just in case.
Innocent until proven guilty. Hence they are fucking about with innocent people (if they muck about after a court of law have either convicted the owner of the computer or if needed for evidence, given a search warrent, then go ahead).
I find it terribly offensive and it sounds very much like the tectics used by the countries the US either has attacked or wants to attack...
I don't live in the US. If someone breaks into my computer, they're breaking the law and they'll pay for it. Of course, nobody's going to break into my computer ;-)
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"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
George W. Bush, December 18, 2002
Uh, do you have any sort of reputable reference for that quote? (And I don't mean www.wehatebush.com.) Where, why, how it was used? I see plenty of pages that use such quote, but with different dates. It seems mighty fishy to me.
Andrew Borntreger
Champion of cinematic disasters
Programs are pre-compiled, while scripts are compiled on-the-fly. I believe that a task that is needed frequently should be pre-compiled. But some things are better done on-the-fly when they are meant for network or internet use.
With all the bruhaha over network security, I would MUCH rather read a script than a pre-compiled program. Vulnerability issues are then left to the interpreter already running in system, which is safer than an imported program.
cypherpunk/cypherpunk
You'd think these kids'd have learned how to spell "cipher" by now...
Edith Keeler Must Die
It's kind of a hard quote to find a standard news reference for, as Google gave me over 15,000 hits. Would you consider the BBC to be reliable? They actually date it back to December 19th (or possibly a day or two before) of 2000, and set the quote as addressed to the leadership of both houses of Congress, referring to the "arm twisting" Bush was going to have to do to get his legislation through.
I've also seen different settings and dates for the quote (the one I gave originally was from an article at commondreams.org). I get the feeling it is just something he says a lot, especially when he isn't getting his way. That would be even more damning than a one time statement.
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Japanese version of "Mothra" (1961)
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