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VigilanteCan't find anyone saying this above me, so here goes.
Doesn't this piss you off? Doesn't it make you want to declare War on Spam, in the time-honoured fashion of the Bush Administration(TM)?
Join up today and make them pay!
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Re:Dodgy BusinessGoogle does remove web sites that it suspects of click fraud but it still keeps the proft that the click fraud generated and as a bonus does not pay the suspected click fraud site their commision.
Google searches now have an annoyingly strong bias to pointless sites running adsence making this https://addons.mozilla.org/addon.php?id=743 firefox extension pretty much compulsary.
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Re:What monopoly?
ok, I'm playing devil's advocate:
If MS ceded the entire Mac market to Apple's safari browser and safari only has google searching capability by default, then isn't it safe to say that Google has a default monopoly on all searching in the mac market? This gets even more interesting if Apple ever does release an OSX86 (or whatever it would be called).
Isn't firefox getting over 100 million downloads mean that it's a viable alternative that is being adopted on a cross-platform basis? Doesn't the existance of such a viable and well accepted alternative make the argument that Microsoft is a monopoly next to void?
Macintels are a direct competition in the Wintel market and seem to be getting more mindshare in the US market. That and the fact that a VIABLE alternative to Wintel boxes exist and are comparable in pricing.
If MS continues to remain the the leader in Desktop operating systems by more than 80% in the next 5 years and Apple continues it's fight into the desktop market then the market has made its decision and MS shouldn't be considered a monopoly anymore. -
Re:What monopoly?
ok, I'm playing devil's advocate:
If MS ceded the entire Mac market to Apple's safari browser and safari only has google searching capability by default, then isn't it safe to say that Google has a default monopoly on all searching in the mac market? This gets even more interesting if Apple ever does release an OSX86 (or whatever it would be called).
Isn't firefox getting over 100 million downloads mean that it's a viable alternative that is being adopted on a cross-platform basis? Doesn't the existance of such a viable and well accepted alternative make the argument that Microsoft is a monopoly next to void?
Macintels are a direct competition in the Wintel market and seem to be getting more mindshare in the US market. That and the fact that a VIABLE alternative to Wintel boxes exist and are comparable in pricing.
If MS continues to remain the the leader in Desktop operating systems by more than 80% in the next 5 years and Apple continues it's fight into the desktop market then the market has made its decision and MS shouldn't be considered a monopoly anymore. -
Re:*sigh* you are 2 clicks from Google on IE...
I also thought it was pretty interesting that IE supports OpenSearch, an open standard to add search engines (unlike FF and Opera).
Ah, but Fx did/does support an open standard to add search engines, Apple's Sherlock. At the time it was implemented there was no OpenSearch standard. However, on trunk/branch a new XML based search service has been checked in.
Bugzilla links (copy & paste if you want to check them out)
New search service
Monitor and implement the OpenSearch 1.1 standard
The Fx folks are well aware of OpenSearch :-) -
Re:*sigh* you are 2 clicks from Google on IE...
I also thought it was pretty interesting that IE supports OpenSearch, an open standard to add search engines (unlike FF and Opera).
Ah, but Fx did/does support an open standard to add search engines, Apple's Sherlock. At the time it was implemented there was no OpenSearch standard. However, on trunk/branch a new XML based search service has been checked in.
Bugzilla links (copy & paste if you want to check them out)
New search service
Monitor and implement the OpenSearch 1.1 standard
The Fx folks are well aware of OpenSearch :-) -
Re:Full Footage on youtube
Use the VideoDownloader extension for Firefox.
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Re:Differentiation
Yes, and a kitchen sink would be nice too.
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wrong, this is a serious problem
and it's turned me off of firefox
look:
http://copia.ogbuji.net/blog/2006/Mar/06
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Re:bookmarks replaced with web-services?
There are already a few extensions on https://addons.mozilla.org/ that provide online bookmarks:
* Foxmarks, currently featured: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2410/
* del.icio.us: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1153/
* de.lirio.us: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1566/
Also, the Flock browser includes this functionality natively. http://flock.com/ -
Re:bookmarks replaced with web-services?
There are already a few extensions on https://addons.mozilla.org/ that provide online bookmarks:
* Foxmarks, currently featured: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2410/
* del.icio.us: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1153/
* de.lirio.us: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1566/
Also, the Flock browser includes this functionality natively. http://flock.com/ -
Re:bookmarks replaced with web-services?
There are already a few extensions on https://addons.mozilla.org/ that provide online bookmarks:
* Foxmarks, currently featured: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2410/
* del.icio.us: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1153/
* de.lirio.us: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1566/
Also, the Flock browser includes this functionality natively. http://flock.com/ -
Re:bookmarks replaced with web-services?
There are already a few extensions on https://addons.mozilla.org/ that provide online bookmarks:
* Foxmarks, currently featured: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2410/
* del.icio.us: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1153/
* de.lirio.us: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1566/
Also, the Flock browser includes this functionality natively. http://flock.com/ -
Places discussion
In case someone is looking for more information about the actual implementation of the "places" concept: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Talk:Places:Design_Overvi
e w http://wiki.mozilla.org/Places:Design_Overview -
Places discussion
In case someone is looking for more information about the actual implementation of the "places" concept: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Talk:Places:Design_Overvi
e w http://wiki.mozilla.org/Places:Design_Overview -
Re:That's _exactly_ what we need...
I think this was the site I was thinking of. (I go through a lot of these kinds of sites on the Mozilla Reporter)
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Re:Unbelievable.
For example, IE doesn't support PNG alpha channels.
Hate rain on your parade, but neither does firefox/mozilla (for printing anyway):
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235097
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Re:Annoyance as a marketing technique?Um, never? Can you point me to a few of these? I use Firefox all the time and have NEVER encountered one. Yes, not once.
You must not get out much on the web, especially in a corporate environment.
There are a list of some here: Sites that Make Mozilla Sad
And even more can be found here: Mozilla Reporter Database
But the worst sites are on corporate Intranets or behind logins.
At work I am expected to use Microsoft Project Server Web Access. This archaic piece of trash requires IE because it uses ActiveX. The webby app we use to manage our Outlook/Exchange profile info only works in IE. Our Exchange web access e-mail only provides a crippled interface to anything other than IE.
Then I get this thing in the e-mail about Oracles new web site with a link to a presentation here - but don't open this in Firefox or it will crash! that only works in IE.
I had to repeatedly e-mail certain folks when links with illegal backslashes showed up in links on the department web site. They finally fixed those but there are several apps on the site that require or claim to require IE. (What the hell: here , here, , here and the system that we now have to use to get our pay checks says here (login required) that "Internet Explorer (version 5.5 or higher) is the only supported web browser for Employee Self Service. Using any other browser may affect your ability to gain access." It mostly works but the the help system requires IE.
Then the other day I am trying look up info on my home warranty and I find this part of their site: Aon Home Warranty
So anyway yes they exist. Yes, real people run in to them all the time. And the Firefox community needs to do something to fight back.
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Re:Annoyance as a marketing technique?
I do: User Agent Switcher 0.6.8, but you're right, we shouldn't have to do this stuff.
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Re:Parent is not troll
Hehe
:)
But you can put in a 'new tab' button on the tab-bar with this extension. -
My favorite: This is hot
Saw them all through the Google Cache. (I can't function without the Add Mirrors Greasemonkey Script which IMHO is way better than the Slashdotter Extension.)
Anyway, I thought "This is hot" blew all the others away. High production value. Gets some of the firefox message across to a mass audience without getting buried in all the product details. Most of the others will just leave people confused. -
Re:Embedded video crap
There's also this extension for downleoading any embedded media with one click.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1993/ -
Re:Embedded video crap
I couldn't agree more. However I've come across a really neat extension for Firefox that will help a lot. It's called unplug (and I'm not the developer either) available at https://addons.mozilla.org/addon.php?id=2254 Enjoy! (I do)
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Re:D'oh!
From your link:
System Requirements.
Windows, MacOS 7.6 or greater min. Internet Explorer 3, Netscape 3, AOL 3.0 or greater. Any Monitor.
I tried it with Firefox anyway, and I even used the User Agent Switcher Extension to fake using IE, and all I got was a stupid picture of a dog.
I really hate stupid websites that don't bother working correctly under Firefox.
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Re:Wait...
I don't think Firefox has had a "silent install" vulnerability yet."
It has had several. The vulnerabilities highlighted in pink on the security advisory page are those that allow remote code execution (some, but not all, of them are only potential remote execution issues that haven't actually been shown to allow execution). For example: Privilege escalation using crypto.generateCRMFRequest. -
Re:Wait...
I don't think Firefox has had a "silent install" vulnerability yet."
It has had several. The vulnerabilities highlighted in pink on the security advisory page are those that allow remote code execution (some, but not all, of them are only potential remote execution issues that haven't actually been shown to allow execution). For example: Privilege escalation using crypto.generateCRMFRequest. -
Re:This brings up a possible new feature for slash
This does bring up a possible new (future) feature for slash - allow logged-in users to specify their own CSS URL, to be served instead of the standards.
If you use Firefox, then this is already possible.
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I just hope it doesn't break slashdotter extension
*Please* don't select a winner that breaks the slashdotter extension.
I haven't had a look at the code for the slashdotter, but I hope it's robust enough to deal with CSS changes like this contest suggests without breaking.
Unfortunately, robustness doesn't seem to be the general rule with Mozilla extensions, which seem to break with every upgrade or site change. Sometimes it seems as if half of the Greasemonkey scripts don't work any more because the pages they were designed to work with have changed.
The one the surprizes me the most is the Venkman JavaScript debugger. Usually developer tools are the first things that get ported to a new version of any platform because the developers are using it themselves, but for some reason, the Venkman debugger is frequently non functional on the latest version of Firefox.
Oh well. I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope this contest doesn't break slashdotter or that the extension gets updated quickly afterwards.
P.S. I hope you can't tell that SpellBound is broken on my installation of FireFox. -
Re:Where to start with Slashcode
If you use the firefox web developer toolbar you can edit the CSS right there and see it applied instantly. This also gives you the flexability to view other pages with your CSS.
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Re:It was about the applications not the OSYou can talk all you want about how a Calendar should be a stand alone program but Outlook as made the intergration of of the two very useful and in some cases mandatory.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/lightnin
g /index.html
FTS: Lightning is a calendar extension for Mozilla Thunderbird. It offers calendaring features directly in the Thunderbird User Interface. Further integration features, such as e-mail invites or addressbook integration are planned for future releases.It is easily on its way. Don't give up FOSS needs your input and suggestions. Go back to LookOOUT! is not helpful advice. Google Calendar/Gmail is a better Answer.
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Re:Hey, good idea
A fully scalable, vector-based browsing experience would be nice. SVG.
Toss in support for animation, SVG again.
full-motion video, foreignObject.
and client-side programming in something other than JavaScript, please. Python.
And 3D, while we've got the hood up. canvas + OpenGL.
Let's call it XAML. Is that good with everyone?
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Re:Hey, good idea
A fully scalable, vector-based browsing experience would be nice. SVG.
Toss in support for animation, SVG again.
full-motion video, foreignObject.
and client-side programming in something other than JavaScript, please. Python.
And 3D, while we've got the hood up. canvas + OpenGL.
Let's call it XAML. Is that good with everyone?
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Re:This article is flamebait
The list of vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 1.5.0.2 is also on the official Mozilla site. They're not providing full details of the vulnerabilities or exploit code yet, though (apparently to give everyone a chance to upgrade first).
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damn animated icon!
I got half a paragraph into the article before heading over to bugzilla.mozilla.org and voting for bug 111373: don't allow animated site icons (favicons)
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Re:Problem with hosts...
Ever heard of Filterset.G? https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1136/ Using that with Adblock Plus, I rarely ever see ads online anymore.
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Actually...
...I thought this was announcing one of the already-existing third-party Gmail-based drives, like GSpace or GMail Drive, both of which I use. They work fine, why do I need another one? Long live GMail! (And a fiery death to Google Earth...but that's a different discussion.)
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Jacl!
Jacl is a fantastic scripting language for Java:
http://tcljava.sourceforge.net/docs/website/index. html
I also enjoy just using Javascript for this kind of thing. See the Rhino project:
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Re:Journalism 101
There's probably even a Firefox extension for this
The Slashdotter plugin does this nicely... -
Re:FIPS != Government
NSS (the crypto library used in Firefox, and some Red Hat and Sun products) is open-source, and FIPS-140 level 2 certified: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/
f ips/ If you implement an application such as disk encryption using NSS for crypto, you'd be able to claim that it was FIPS 140 compliant. But, as far as I know, no such application currently exists. FIPS 140 is a US goverment standard for cryptographic implementations. Federal agencies/departments purchasing software with cryptography are required to buy FIPS-140 validated solutions if they exist. But, it's not only federal government. It's really the only such standard in the US, and so anyone looking for some product which has gone through some type of validation (such as financial industry) will probably require FIPS-140 valdiation. -
Re:Cool beans
There is a grain of truth. However the joke in it is one that goes back into the 70's with BSU. Oh and you might like this link
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Tech Report's self-destructive behavior
That Tech Report article is so infested with Flash ads that it discourages me from reading it, or even taking Tech Report seriously.
It seems to me that a company has to be very, very stupid to believe that trying to force people to read ads is productive.
I was trying to do without the FlashBlock extension because Firefox developers tend to blame the instability and CPU hogging of Firefox on extensions. However, I've installed it now.
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Before, Saddam got Iraq oil profits & paid part to kill Iraqis. Now a few Americans share Iraq oil profits, & U.S. citizens pay to kill Iraqis. Improvement? -
Re:rapidly improving technologies? eh[...] when was the last time Mozilla was bold and invented and introduced something new and exciting into actual (X)HTML rendering or ECMAScript(JavaScript)?
Regarding HTML, you may want to take a look at WhatWG.
Regarding JavaScript, the what's new in JavaScript 1.6 at Mozilla Developer Center might help, too (By the way, Mozilla CTO, Brendan Eich, created JavaScript while working at Netscape).
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Re:"Fixes some security issues"?No, many of those were fixed previously in the Firefox 1.5 series, and the fixes have just now been backported to the 1.0 series.
If you look at MFSA2006-19 for instance, it says:Fixed in: Firefox 1.5
Firefox 1.0.8
Thunderbird 1.5
Thunderbird 1.0.8
SeaMonkey 1.0
Mozilla Suite 1.7.13
That's literally Firefox 1.5, not Firefox 1.5.0.2, which means that the bug was fixed months ago in the latest stable releases of Firefox, Thunderbird, and Seamonkey. The reason this advisory is dated April 13 is that the older releases -- Firefox 1.0.x, Thunderbird 1.0.x, and the Mozilla Suite -- just got updated with the fix. -
Yahoo Mail Bug fix
This is the one that I was looking for (Yahoo! Mail Beta randomly crashes, causing the loss of whatever email is being written)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32268 3 -
Re:"Fixes some security issues"?
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Re:"Fixes some security issues"?
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Version 1.0.8 available at...Could not find 1.0.8 on website.
1.0.8 for many platforms is at: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel
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Re:Some leaks fixed
I have the same problem with that. So I installed sessionsaver and it works great. Everytime I reboot or something goes wrong all of my tabs are saved and still open when I start firefox again. Check it out
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Re:colgroup bug still exists
Neither is bug 279867 fixed which is older then a year.
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Re:"Fixes some security issues"?
This is why Mozilla restricts access to security bug information. It's only an issue if it becomes public. By the way, I only count seven security-related bug fixes. Where are you getting 21?