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http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/
(been up since last night)

Release notes:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1 .5.html

It'll get fixed when you patch it. Here's the source code; go nuts. On *nix systems at least, here's the offending source code line.

It'll get fixed when you patch it. Here's the source code; go nuts. On *nix systems at least, here's the offending source code line.

However, the release notes are now up.

http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/200 5/11/17/15rc3-available/

Notice that RC will be the final version if there are no new bugs.

I have been running rc2, and it works well but it does have some freezing issues.

From http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/200 5/11/17/15rc3-available/ (The release notes blog):

        * A recent regression that either crashes or breaks certain usages of innerHTML for dynamic applications. (315189/315999)
        * A recent regression and most common RC2 crash (316025)

Hopefully, this will resolve most of my issues.

Remember, if you can't wait a day or so for the auto update: Help -> Check for Updates. (If you are running a RC of 1.5)

Kudos for the dev team.

And the truncating title text bug that arbitrarily drops information from websites still hasn't been fixed. It's now five years old! Hooray!

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45375

I think Moz is a great project, but I use Opera because things like this are allowed to linger for um, half a decade, instead of being fixed.

Allegedly, the replacement format for JPEG is JNG, which is a subspec of MNG. MNG has a truckload of features including: animation (with sprites!), color correction, and (almost tangentially) lossy JPEG-like compression. The latter is available in a separate format called JNG too. Of course, on the one hand we need support for MNG in applications (consider for example how it was removed from Mozilla; there are high hopes for it to be reintroduced in SeaMonkey, though). And of course, there is my very personal perplexity ... by looking at the JNG spec, it looks like it's very similar to JPEG ... is it really outside of the bounds of that stupid patent? (Of course, everybody should be using JPEG2000 by now, which compresses much better with much less artefacts ... of course that's patented too ...)

Firefox isn't GPL licensed... it's released under the MPL.

Or am I missing something?

There's actually a cool extension similiar to IE View called IE Tab that essentially does just that. Rather than opening up a new window for Internet Explorer, this plugin integrates IE into a tab within Firefox... it's pretty neat.

There's actually a cool extension similiar to IE View called IE Tab that essentially does just that. Rather than opening up a new window for Internet Explorer, this plugin integrates IE into a tab within Firefox... it's pretty neat.

What happens if you are running a pirated copy of Firefox?.

Dude, torrents are here!

It's about this site ==> https://pfs.mozilla.org/plugins/

I loaded it on both IE6 & Firefox(1.0.2)

Strangely, it renders very differently on the 2 browsers.
It renders much better on IE.

What's the story?

You're not up-to-date with your Firefox comments. Firefox 1.5 is usable with recent screen readers from Freedom Scientific (JAWS) and GW Micro (Window-Eyes). Opera does not even expose MSAA on the Windows version. It's not usable with a screen reader. The built in voice support is not suitable for blind users. Firefox 1.5 accessibility features are on par with IE's. It more than makes up for any flaws by being the first browsre to introduce accessibility for DHTML/JS/AJAX applications. This will allow companies that need to deploy section 508 compliant web applications to use the web instead of marrying any particular platform API set. See http://www.mozilla.org/access/dhtml

I'm work for IBM as one of those 'accessibility experts' and am the module owner for accessibility in Firefox. IBM picked up the Firefox and Gecko accessibility work after AOL lost interest in anything Mozilla-related.

JAWS 7 in fact works with Firefox 1.5. Ask your friend to try that combination -- Firefox 1.5 RC 2 is avalable on mozilla.org. Your friend can also try Window-Eyes 5.5 with Firefox 1.5 -- it works great.

It took me since 2001 to get all of the APIs implemented that were required for Mozilla accessibility on Windows. We also had tons of keyboard, focus and UI issues to fix. Then there is the new stuff -- accessibility for JavaScript/DHTML/AJAX applications. Firefox 1.5 is the first browser to provide the ability for authors to make custom DHTML widgets accessible. See http://www.mozilla.org/access. So we're going beyond the status quo.

For any application with any kind of document viewer or editor application with its own engine, accessibility requires a lot of work in the code. After that it requires a great deal of cooperation from screen reader companies so that two complex systems interact correctly.

Aaron Leventhal
http://www.mozilla.org/access

I'm work for IBM as one of those 'accessibility experts' and am the module owner for accessibility in Firefox. IBM picked up the Firefox and Gecko accessibility work after AOL lost interest in anything Mozilla-related.

JAWS 7 in fact works with Firefox 1.5. Ask your friend to try that combination -- Firefox 1.5 RC 2 is avalable on mozilla.org. Your friend can also try Window-Eyes 5.5 with Firefox 1.5 -- it works great.

It took me since 2001 to get all of the APIs implemented that were required for Mozilla accessibility on Windows. We also had tons of keyboard, focus and UI issues to fix. Then there is the new stuff -- accessibility for JavaScript/DHTML/AJAX applications. Firefox 1.5 is the first browser to provide the ability for authors to make custom DHTML widgets accessible. See http://www.mozilla.org/access. So we're going beyond the status quo.

For any application with any kind of document viewer or editor application with its own engine, accessibility requires a lot of work in the code. After that it requires a great deal of cooperation from screen reader companies so that two complex systems interact correctly.

Aaron Leventhal
http://www.mozilla.org/access

> See this? http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/AJAX:Getting_ Started
> it's a tutorial. In the AJAX LANGUAGE

From the top of the referenced page:

"AJAX (Asynchronous JavaScript and XML) is a newly coined term for two powerful browser features that have been around for years,"

All I can see on that page is JavaScript, sorry. There is no AJAX "language"

Insert angry GNU/ranting here, if that's what you want.

Gnusto Firefox Extension

That'll run any Z-Machine games you like. Some are also online in a format you can play in a browser, like HHGG.

I have signed up for the service, taken some pictures and posted the screen shots on my blog. If you don't want to see the picture, I edited the article slightly and posted the words below: Google just rolled out a free web traffic analysis service named Google Analytics. You can catch the story at Slashdot. I have just signed up for an account. First full report is compiled after 12 hours, but in the main time, I can see a lot of buttons to play with. You can choose to view vital numbers from "Executive", "Marketer", or "Webmaster" point of view. There are so many functions I don't know where to start. Let me show you an overview picture. There is a pretty screen with 4 pictures to the top right. It shows you the webpage overview and covers "Visits and Pageviews", "Geo Map Overlay", "Visits bv New and Returning", and "Visit by Source". "Geo Map Overlay" is interesting, it shows the general location of where people is viewing your site. It uses javascript, so if your visitor has it off, you won't can see the location. Also, the display is in flash for some reason, so make sure you have macromedia flash. If you use Firefox, the popular plug-in AdBlock will block flash, you need to disable it. Firefox viewer can find flash plugins. I just use Internet Explorer for now, it works just fine. The service is the most powerful and flexible I have seen yet, even from paid service. I have been using StatCounter for months, but that free service only provides stat for your previous 100 visitors. Google 'limit' your free account to 5 million views a month, which is plenty for the average joes. If you go over 5 million, your website can most likely make you enough money to afford a pay service anyhow. Even better, if you have an AdWord Account and tie Google Analytics onto it, you have "unlimited" capacity! I will keep both webstat for now. StatCounter updates in real time while Google Analytics updates webstat once an hour. By keeping both I can choose to tap the information whenever I want. Also, I have StatCounter setup as "Public", so visitors can see webstat in real time. The information visitors see from StatCounter is the same as what I see as a webmaster. Google Analytics seems powerful, but it doesn't let me share the information real tiem like Stat Counter does. However, you can choose to export your stat from google into txt, xml, excel, or print it out on the spot. Google never cease to amaze me, they come out with free products better than many paid services. As I write on this free Blogger Platform, logged by free Google Analytics, and being searched by Google Engine, I can't help but praise - Vive Google! Google !

Adblock is great, but paired with the Filterset.G Updater it is even more powerful! Filterset.G is a continuously updated list of ad sites/keywords, between the two you can remove nearly all ads from pages.

Adblock is great, but paired with the Filterset.G Updater it is even more powerful! Filterset.G is a continuously updated list of ad sites/keywords, between the two you can remove nearly all ads from pages.

I'd RTFA if the black text didn't overlap a black image. IE-only web designers should be shot.

This is when the 'remove this object' firefox extension comes in handy. Just remove the image and the text is readable. 'Undo last remove' to get the image back.

I don't think you should have been modded down.

As far as I can tell, believe it or not, the August spike was Mozilla Foundation being reorganised. You can also see a clear spike when Firefox 1.0 was released. In fact there is a generally high correlation between Slashdot.org readership and Mozilla.org readership:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=900&h=350&r=18m&y =r&u=slashdot.org&u=mozilla.org&u=digg.com
http://www.mozilla.org/news.html

Note that Alexa numbers only count users browsing with IE and with the Alexa toolbar installed.

Well, they do have some existing connections to Mozilla due to Netscape and whatnot. ;_;

Do you want the Firefox crashes fixed? Vote for this Bugzilla bug report: All instances crash. Memory leaks.

Since Bugzilla does not accept referrals from Slashdot, copy and paste this URL:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22266 0. Remove the space inserted by Slashdot.

Do you want the Firefox crashes fixed? Vote for this Bugzilla bug report: All instances crash. Memory leaks.

Since Bugzilla does not accept referrals from Slashdot, copy and paste this URL:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22266 0. Remove the space inserted by Slashdot.

Do you want the Firefox crashes fixed? Vote for this Bugzilla bug report: All instances crash. Memory leaks.

Since Bugzilla does not accept referrals from Slashdot (?), copy and paste this URL:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22266 0. Remove the space inserted by Slashdot.

Do you want the Firefox crashes fixed? Vote for this Bugzilla bug report: All instances crash. Memory leaks.

Since Bugzilla does not accept referrals from Slashdot (?), copy and paste this URL:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22266 0. Remove the space inserted by Slashdot.

Aren't you the same shmoo who grunts at me every time I say "Linux" instead of "GNU/Linux" ? What, were you sick? I missed you!

Posting to slashdot won't do anything for you.

And to reply to myself yet again...

Checking history at mozilla's bonzai server:
http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=defa ult&module=all&branch=DOM_AGNOSTIC_BRANCH&branchty pe=match&dir=&file=&filetype=match&who=&whotype=ma tch&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=all&mindate=&maxdate= &cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot

and finding all sorts of python-related things...

Main bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22090 0

http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5rc 2&os=win&lang=en-US

Scratched my head about .MAR files, then found this link. Kind of silly to post an article with only an obscure updater format.

Why don't I see any differences in the list of what's changed from the RC1 page?
  http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/rc1.html
  http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/rc2.html

Why don't I see any differences in the list of what's changed from the RC1 page?
  http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/rc1.html
  http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/rc2.html

The Mozilla Foundation only enables IDN in Firefox for top-level domains that have good anti-spoofing policies:

"In order for us to display IDNs in a particular TLD, that registry concerned must have and keep a published policy stating which characters are permitted. If the set of characters contains pairs of homographic characters, the policy must specify a method to prevent two homographic domains being registered to different entities." (source)

Firefox also includes a small blacklist to prevent the worst kinds of spoofing (such as characters that look like slashes or spaces) in case a TLD registry screws up.

Yeah, I can find nothing in terms of version number that differentiates the RC2 version from the RC1 I was running, other than when you visit "about: " and click on the words Firefox 1.5, it takes you to an about page on the mozilla.org site that talks about RC2...

Let's wait and see what comes out of the Extend Firefox competition. Should provided an extra boost to its popularity

Bork Bork Bork

Eggon

Firesomething

It's not just about tabs and security you know. Firefox extends and enhances my productivity and gives me extra functionality, functionality that makes my co-workers all go "Ooooohhhhhh...that's so coool! Show me how to do that"
In an increasingly technologically savvy and cynical workforce (our admin is incompetent and an asshole) I'm re-introducing a sense of wonderment in technology by showing my colleagues how to find out what the weather is doing right now without compromising the pile of shite that is our network.
Back in the day, all this PC, IT, WWW stuff was new, exciting and compelling. There were problems but this was a new fronter and most of us seemed to want to make it a nice place to be.
Things have moved on, grown up and become less romantic but for me and my colleagues firefox is reinvigorating the interest in computing and giving us all a little frisson of excitement. We can play without getting fucked.
And if we can play without getting fucked that means that we can learn and grow.
I'm sorry that my stance is so idealised and romanicised but the innovation and ideas that are coming out of the firefox team is to provide me and my friends and colleagues with a product that does not allow bad people to violate our growth and health.

Bork Bork Bork

Eggon

Firesomething

It's not just about tabs and security you know. Firefox extends and enhances my productivity and gives me extra functionality, functionality that makes my co-workers all go "Ooooohhhhhh...that's so coool! Show me how to do that"
In an increasingly technologically savvy and cynical workforce (our admin is incompetent and an asshole) I'm re-introducing a sense of wonderment in technology by showing my colleagues how to find out what the weather is doing right now without compromising the pile of shite that is our network.
Back in the day, all this PC, IT, WWW stuff was new, exciting and compelling. There were problems but this was a new fronter and most of us seemed to want to make it a nice place to be.
Things have moved on, grown up and become less romantic but for me and my colleagues firefox is reinvigorating the interest in computing and giving us all a little frisson of excitement. We can play without getting fucked.
And if we can play without getting fucked that means that we can learn and grow.
I'm sorry that my stance is so idealised and romanicised but the innovation and ideas that are coming out of the firefox team is to provide me and my friends and colleagues with a product that does not allow bad people to violate our growth and health.

Bork Bork Bork

Eggon

Firesomething

It's not just about tabs and security you know. Firefox extends and enhances my productivity and gives me extra functionality, functionality that makes my co-workers all go "Ooooohhhhhh...that's so coool! Show me how to do that"
In an increasingly technologically savvy and cynical workforce (our admin is incompetent and an asshole) I'm re-introducing a sense of wonderment in technology by showing my colleagues how to find out what the weather is doing right now without compromising the pile of shite that is our network.
Back in the day, all this PC, IT, WWW stuff was new, exciting and compelling. There were problems but this was a new fronter and most of us seemed to want to make it a nice place to be.
Things have moved on, grown up and become less romantic but for me and my colleagues firefox is reinvigorating the interest in computing and giving us all a little frisson of excitement. We can play without getting fucked.
And if we can play without getting fucked that means that we can learn and grow.
I'm sorry that my stance is so idealised and romanicised but the innovation and ideas that are coming out of the firefox team is to provide me and my friends and colleagues with a product that does not allow bad people to violate our growth and health.

Bork Bork Bork

Eggon

Firesomething

It's not just about tabs and security you know. Firefox extends and enhances my productivity and gives me extra functionality, functionality that makes my co-workers all go "Ooooohhhhhh...that's so coool! Show me how to do that"
In an increasingly technologically savvy and cynical workforce (our admin is incompetent and an asshole) I'm re-introducing a sense of wonderment in technology by showing my colleagues how to find out what the weather is doing right now without compromising the pile of shite that is our network.
Back in the day, all this PC, IT, WWW stuff was new, exciting and compelling. There were problems but this was a new fronter and most of us seemed to want to make it a nice place to be.
Things have moved on, grown up and become less romantic but for me and my colleagues firefox is reinvigorating the interest in computing and giving us all a little frisson of excitement. We can play without getting fucked.
And if we can play without getting fucked that means that we can learn and grow.
I'm sorry that my stance is so idealised and romanicised but the innovation and ideas that are coming out of the firefox team is to provide me and my friends and colleagues with a product that does not allow bad people to violate our growth and health.

Here ya go:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_for mat=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__all __&product=Firefox&content=clipboard

FWIW, it looks like there has been some attempt to resolve, as some of these are in state closed. About to try out the release...

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1 .5.html

The Firefox 1.5rc2 release is nearly ready to be announced. When it is, we'll update our website to point you to the installer files with links that use our load balancer. A note: going to our FTP site directly will hammer all mirrors evenly which is bad for those smaller mirrors that aren't as bandwidth-laden as our bigger mirrors.

If you can't wait for your Firefox 1.5rc2 fix, though, feel free to download Firefox 1.5b2 or 1.5rc1 and then use software update (Help -> Check for Updates...) to grab the 1.5rc2 update. The updates for both to 1.5rc2 are less than a meg!

Chase, the build/release guy at Mozilla

For what purpose? Would XUL be cool?
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xul/

Why hasnt anyone posted this yet?

FF rc2 @ mozilla

It is a bug in RC1 - the only "what's new" entry for RC2 is "several fixes to automated update system". I was getting the same thing on Beta 2 for RC1 - I eventually uninstalled Beta2 to install RC1 fresh.
The transition from RC1 to RC2 was smooth, however.

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1 .5.html

If you're running RC1 already, the posted links have .MAR files available to perform an update without redownloading the entire binary. Windows users should be careful because .MAR is associated with Microsoft Access in Office 2003 (maybe earlier versions but this is all I checked with). Anyway, info on how to update with .MAR files is here:

Manually Installing a MAR File

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• FormFaces A pure AJAX library that runs in today's browsers. It's stunning to see how simply this works.
• Chiba A server-side engine in Java that integrates with TomCat or other Apache web server technologies to produce HTML that works in today's browsers. Plus, the plain-old-HTML output of Chiba is accessible right now, in addition to the XHTML+XForms file itself. (Caveat: Full AJAX implementation is in development, according to the mailing list.)
• Orbeon Ops, like Chiba, Orbeon converts to HTML for today's browsers in its Java back end, but rather than integrating into your TomCat or Coccoon framework, it comes with its own framework that helps you separate presentation from content and write your applications.

• Mozilla XForms for Mozilla and FireFox, an XPI that's available for recent betas and nightlies, this one-click install adds native XForms support to these browsers. Still in Beta, but with plenty of developers, it should be a full implementation.
• FormsPlayer for Windows provides full support for XForms in Internet Explorer via a plug-in. Plug-ins are not everyone's cup of tea, but then neither is Mozilla ;-). You can get the AJAX benefits of dynamic page updating and yet still retain accessibility with any of the server-side or JavaScript engines above, but if your target deployment is Internet Explorer, you can gain tremendous access to advanced features inside IE with this plug-in. (Plus it has some neat Konfabulator-like tools such as SideWinder.)