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Re:The boy who cried "Leak!"
Firefox has 400 million users. (That's 1/20th the world's population, for those following along at home.) Any time we make a UI change, some of these 400 million people will love it, and some of those 400 million people won't. I'm sorry you didn't like this change.
There's an add-on to get the status bar back. Can we move on, please?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar/
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Re:You had me at..
That is awesome - thanks. And I just read your team's memory presentation by Nicholas Nethercote
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Re:You had me at..
Yeah, it's not like it leaks memory like a BP pipeline.
So...can we put this cliche to bed now?
Based on my anecdotal experience? No. Firefox routinely grows to over 1GB memory usage, and stays there even when I close all the tabs. It does so even with extensions disabled. It has done this in 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, 7.x, and it still does it in 8.x. It does it in both Windows 7 and Ubuntu. Sorry, but I'm not ready to put this to rest. Some cliches are completely accurate and well deserved.
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Re:You had me at..
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Re:You had me at..
Yeah, it's not like it leaks memory like a BP pipeline.
So...can we put this cliche to bed now?
Not until they clean up all the residual memory!
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Re:You had me at..
Yeah, it's not like it leaks memory like a BP pipeline.
So...can we put this cliche to bed now?
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Re:Download?
Is there anywhere I can download the movie in its entirety?
YouTube? You can use Video DownloadHelper with Firefox, or one of the command-line equivalents.
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Re:Some people don't need this
I use Adblockplus, Noscript, and Betterprivacy
Me as well and also http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stylish/
When I use somebody elses PC to do some surfing it amazes me that people still would want to spend time online. Sure, you have a 30 insch screen, but the amount of content is the same as your very old 15 inch one.
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Re:i'll do my own tests
Well, first off, besides your problem being unusual (which isn't to say it shouldn't be fixed - file a bug!), there's also the fact you are running in a VM which adds more questions. Also. Disclaimer. Not a Firefox dev, just a dev in general, w/ an interest in open source, so, stuff here should just be considered general tech support.
I'm going to bullet here things you haven't reported back on yet, but elaborate below. It seems quite possible you didn't read through the other one, it was a bit verbose.
* Addons? Running any? Tried firefox -safe-mode yet?
* What does about:memory say exactly (the "explicit" row in particular) - not just "under a gig" which is kinda vague in a system w/ 1.5 gigs of memory. That's saying "using anywhere from 0 to two-thirds the system memory" if it really is high, are one or two tabs in the tree standout?
* Output of free command?
* Output of top command - what does the RES column say for firefox?
* Running in a VM - graphics accelleration enabled? What is your speed on HWACCEL?
* How many entries in the history? Try trimming it to past few months, vacuuming, or testing Firefox 12? You can also try setting:
places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages in about:config to, something low like 20,000 entries, or even 50k...As I said, a couple of performance bugs with places were fixed in past couple of months, although vacuuming the places database can help (can be done from the javascript console), there's a javascript snippet for vacuuming places online, google it.
Trying Firefox 12 to compare could be informative. ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/lastest-trunk/ Just unzip it and try it off your desktop or whatever. History can be preserved with Firefox Sync, but I was talking more about deleting entries more than a few months old. Usually people can't share their profile, which is a shame, because that's easier than having them narrow down the problem (addons, places, settings, whatever) - but if you're feeling particularly energetic, you could make a copy of it, and try removing stuff from it to find the culprit.
http://blog.bonardo.net/2011/09/30/is-your-firefor-freezing-at-regular-intervals
http://blog.bonardo.net/2011/09/02/changes-to-places-memory-consumption-expiration-and-performances but. yeah, there might be other issues with huge histories, and possibly addons. Bug filing is needed, or stuff doesn't get fixed.As for memory. Actually most netbooks have more than that these days since they tend to run Vista.
Ones with less memory should be using XFCE4 or something similarly lightweight. Unity and Compiz are hogs. They are especially hogs on a machine where the graphics card uses system memory.For "swap hell" - if you are short on memory, then you'll trigger "swap hell" in any moderately significant app.
What is the output of the free command?I opened a PDF in evince here - it reported 50MiB. Not a lot, but if you are running close to the limit already.
But again, you keep saying "responsiveness" - which makes me wonder without the output of about:memory, free and top.$
It might be something as simple as just cutting down on the size of your history from a few hundred thousand entries to ten thousand (or trying Firefox 12 w/ the history fixes). And you *still* haven't answered the addon question. Does firefox continue with this behaviour in firefox -safe-mode ? It could simply be AdBlock or Firebug or somesuch.Then there's running it in a VM - is it a VM w/ GL acceleration? It could be the GL acceleration in the VM is sucky. Firefox is moving to abandoing X11 RENDER, but it still uses that (was why even Firefox 3.6 was "graphically accelerated" in Li
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Re:Firefox is required anyway.
I also use the new developer tools in Firefox 10 which are very nice.
http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/11/developer-tools-in-firefox-aurora-10/
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Re:Hey
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Re:Firefox is required anyway.
Using the Places Maintenance add-on should be more effective and simpler than installing a separate program (one which installs and sets Chrome as your default browser if you are not careful during installation).
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Re:Is this a priority?
They meant "zombie compartments", like in Ghostery.
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Re:Firefox is required anyway.
Your database sizes aren't much different from mine. My places.sqlite is 73.4MB my urlclassifier3.sqlite (in ~/Library/Caches/Firefox/) is 42MB.
Firefox stores a lot of history information, including individual visits, in order to provide good predictions when typing into the address bar. I'm not sure which heuristics it uses to expire old history, or even whether it's primarily based on database size or age.
We could probably stop storing individual visit information if we fixed bug 704025. But I'm guessing that wouldn't shrink the database much, because dates are tiny compared to URLs and titles.
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Re:A couple of problems
Both machines run FF 3.6 because I keep reading that later versions have worse memory use and UI performance characteristics.
... people say that 3.6 is more responsive (especially on older HW) than the newer versions.
Those people are wrong. Newer versions of Firefox are *much* faster and use less memory. In fact, lowering memory usage became a priority right about the time you stopped upgrading. Ironic, eh?
"Faster" is a relative term. I was specifically referring to the UI. In particular on machines with old/slow CPUs and GPUs.
For example, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716445 (there are others). -
A couple of problems
At work I have a quad core Q6700 with 4GB of RAM. At home I use an older single core Athlon 64 3500+ with 2GB of RAM. Both machines run Windows XP.
Both machines run FF 3.6 because I keep reading that later versions have worse memory use and UI performance characteristics.
On both machines, I experience two problems with FF memory usage (all figures were reported as "private bytes" by Sysinternals process explorer):
1) Memory usage keeps growing until it reaches a threshold (1.5GB on my home machine) after which FF locks hard with close to 100% CPU use and never recovers. Closing tabs did not bring the memory usage down in a perceptible way.
This used to require daily restarts of FF but lately the problem does not seem to happen that often. A restart can still cut the memory use by half (same tabs courtesy of session restore), which helps with problem #2 below, but it takes much longer to go over 1GB.2) Periodic "stuttering" where FF will pause for a short period every once in a while with CPU usage spikes approaching 100%. The duration of the pauses seem directly related to the amount of memory that FF uses. That, and the periodic nature of the "hiccups", lead me to believe it is related to garbage collection.
Unfortunately, it makes viewing videos when FF is running (even using an external viewer) impractical, so I have to close FF and start IE8 each time I go to youtube,
There's a bug report that was opened almost 3 years ago (and still unassigned).The responses that I get are:
* You're using an old version.
True, but according to the comments, bug 490122 is still present in the newer versions (up to v10) and people say that 3.6 is more responsive (especially on older HW) than the newer versions.* It's the plugins/addons/extensions.
Perhaps, but the reason I use FF at all is because of the extensions and I would expect such an "extension-centric" product to help me figure out which one is misbehaving (for example, by reporting the memory usage of each tab).Now, reading the article and the slides, I am getting hopeful that these issues are being addressed.
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Re:Firefox's problem
You may be interested in following/helping the Snappy Project.
A couple of things in particular to track the progress of are off-main-thread compositing and re-architecting session storage. -
Re:Firefox's problem
You may be interested in following/helping the Snappy Project.
A couple of things in particular to track the progress of are off-main-thread compositing and re-architecting session storage. -
FYI, Adblock Plus no longer blocks ads :-(
The latest versions of Adblock Plus allows so-called "acceptable ads" by default. Because the extension author's idea of "acceptable" advertising includes third-party scripts and cookies, it's possible this new "feature" could eventually expose you to drive-by malware downloads or tracking cookies.
Thankfully, Adblock Plus is open source and a fork without the "acceptable ads" feature enabled has appeared: Trueblock Plus.
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Re:Which begs the question...
uTorrent Status Tool
Honestly, like, I don't think you even looked. Lol. I've been using this for some time now because my media server is housing all files/downloads/etc. It is extremely handy and I just tested it with a magnet URL. In fact, to my dismay, the closest equivalent does not work for Chrome. :(
At any rate, I use that for uTorrent and I've got another extension for SABnzbd. It works quite well. -
Re:Classic
Get the classic normal Google back, the secret magic is giving UserAgent Opera/8 to Google.
(may brake if any Google-employee reads this, so enjoy while you can)
BrowserMasquerade addonOnly way to get Google to understand that you're unhappy with them is
to use more Search Engines, all search engines on one page.AdressBar search,
about:config
keyword.URL
https://duckduckgo.com?kf=-1&ku=1&ky=-1&kx=g&kg=p&q= -
Re:Good
You might be interested in "Bug 490122 - Firefox periodically becomes unresponsive/freezes: video jerks/pauses/halts; links, tabs, menus stop responding" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490122
My experience is the opposite: I used to suffer many short pauses since 3.0 to 3.6. Then, I completely uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox (deleting even the leftover directories) when Fx 4 was released and voila -no more pauses. It was a bit of a hassle, since I only recovered my bookmarks & history, but it was worth it because I no longer experienced the annoying pauses. If you think this bug fits your problem, consider voting for it. Cheers. -
Re:I'll never see them.
Or, if you don't like the "Acceptable Ads" "feature" that Adblock Plus added in version 2.0, which has the potential to expose you to tracking cookies and malicious scripts, one can use Trueblock Plus instead.
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Re:Did they fire Asa?
Yes it is. It also still falsely tells you it's up to date if it can't check: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679742
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Re:Good
The Thunderbird team is talking about an extended support released on their mailing list. There's more info on the Mozilla Wiki, but it is being planned.
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Re:Oh good. ANOTHER browser to support.
1. It is only one version to support and you can run it next to the latest version of Firefox. I would think this is a good thing if it keeps the people that do not what all those changes on the same older version instead of, some users on 6, some users on 7, some users on 8.
2. What you are looking for is called the "Add-on Compatibility Reporter":
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/
It was obviously meant for a different purpose, so with that name it makes it kind of hard to find.
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Re:First...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.boycottsopa.android
There's an app for that (for Android) that allows you to boycott companies that support SOPA by product with a scan of the product.
There is also a Chrome addon that does the same except with websites: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gagmjmoimnkgoijihaaeodbefhcapjcj?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon
And in case this passes there are add-ons already out that will bypass SOPA: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/desopa/
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Re:Is this the "GPL plus linking exception"?
No, that's correct. It was a deliberate design choice by Sun developers to make the CDDL incompatible with the GPL, using the MPL 1.1 license as a base. I wouldn't recommend CDDL due to being outdated and less popular than both MPL and GPL.
The MPL is an option for developers on Google Code, and (along with Firefox and Thunderbird) is used in Google Chrome and other software projects. There are also several licences which are forks of MPL 1.1 with minor changes by larger projects.
MPL2 sounds like what you're looking for, as it's designed to be as compatible with other licenses (including GPL and LGPL) by default (unless you add an exception), and doesn't impose conditions on how to link software. As with 1.1, in section 10.3 you have the option of forking the MPL2 if you need to for any reason as others have done - but if you're looking for a license which anyone can use with the minimum of hassle, MPL2 is in my opinion a sound choice.
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A Work-Around for this exists
Geeks worldwide seem to manage two steps forward for every step "forward" that governments make. Hopefully the trend will continue. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mafiaafire-gee-no-evil/
This Firefox addon re-enables censored "suggestion" content from Google.
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Re:Group Policy
Firefox has to run as admin to update
It doesn't have low rights mode like chrome and IE
True.
Its crazy release schedule means zero testing before deployment
Well, other than the six weeks it's in "Beta" (i.e. release candidate) where the intent is to make no changes, and the six weeks it's in "Aurora" (i.e. beta), where only bug fixes are made. And the extra twelve weeks it's in certify/deploy state in the ESR proposal. But other than that.
extensions were breaking everywhere
Extensions rarely break with the new "major releases are now minor releases" model. As of Fx10, it will even stop claiming they're broken too.
and the final straw was that XSS bug that allowed malware writers to spam yahoo mail accounts from FF
... With low rights mode its damned near impossible to pull crap like thatOK, I'm not sure which bug you're referring to, but generally running the browser in a low-rights mode doesn't prevent XSS bugs, because XSS bugs happen inside the browser itself.
that requires admin rights to install
Wait, install? You said "update" earlier. But OK... I believe it installs fine as a non-admin user if you opt to install it to a directory the user has write permission to, which is what Chrome does by default. Firefox Portable certainly works fine as a non-admin user (updates included!), and that's just a wrapper around a vanilla Firefox.
and isn't easy at all to set up GPOs that can't be trivially bypassed by the user
True, as far as I know. Though if you're allowing the browser to be installed without admin rights, the user could presumably just overwrite it with a version that doesn't obey GPOs, so either this applies to Chrome too or you in fact don't actually want non-admin users to be able to install the browser.
I dislike the new release schedule as much as the next guy, but I'd prefer it if you disliked it for reasons that were true, or at least not getting fixed before 3.6's EoL.
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Re:Group Policy
Firefox has to run as admin to update
It doesn't have low rights mode like chrome and IE
True.
Its crazy release schedule means zero testing before deployment
Well, other than the six weeks it's in "Beta" (i.e. release candidate) where the intent is to make no changes, and the six weeks it's in "Aurora" (i.e. beta), where only bug fixes are made. And the extra twelve weeks it's in certify/deploy state in the ESR proposal. But other than that.
extensions were breaking everywhere
Extensions rarely break with the new "major releases are now minor releases" model. As of Fx10, it will even stop claiming they're broken too.
and the final straw was that XSS bug that allowed malware writers to spam yahoo mail accounts from FF
... With low rights mode its damned near impossible to pull crap like thatOK, I'm not sure which bug you're referring to, but generally running the browser in a low-rights mode doesn't prevent XSS bugs, because XSS bugs happen inside the browser itself.
that requires admin rights to install
Wait, install? You said "update" earlier. But OK... I believe it installs fine as a non-admin user if you opt to install it to a directory the user has write permission to, which is what Chrome does by default. Firefox Portable certainly works fine as a non-admin user (updates included!), and that's just a wrapper around a vanilla Firefox.
and isn't easy at all to set up GPOs that can't be trivially bypassed by the user
True, as far as I know. Though if you're allowing the browser to be installed without admin rights, the user could presumably just overwrite it with a version that doesn't obey GPOs, so either this applies to Chrome too or you in fact don't actually want non-admin users to be able to install the browser.
I dislike the new release schedule as much as the next guy, but I'd prefer it if you disliked it for reasons that were true, or at least not getting fixed before 3.6's EoL.
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Re:FTFY: NotScript
You'll have to provide sources for Firefox's alleged instability. Here's a link to Mozilla's Firefox crash statistics. If you can link to a report about Chrome's stability, it would be very useful.
As for memory, Mozilla have been working on reducing memory in Firefox with the MemShrink project. Nicholas Nethercote's blog has the latest reports on improvements to the upcoming versions. Even then, it's been established before in testing that Chrome is a relative heavyweight when it comes to memory.
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Re: With the first ESR release
Er, 4 hasn't been supported for a while. Nor 5. Nor 6. Nor 7. 8 was EOLed on December 20, and 9 will be EOLed on Jan 31.
There are no backported security or stability fixes for 4-8. To put it in Mozilla's terms, 5 is the security/stability release for 4, 6 is the security/stability release for 5, and so on.
According to TFA, the first ESR will be 10, not 4.
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System requirements
It's interesting looking at how the minimum requirements for 3.6 and 9 compare. In just under 2 years, the recommended hardware for FF has effectively quadrupled in Windows. Macs have odd changes and Linux doesn't warrant minimum/recommended requirements.
Looking at the recommended requirements from a different angle, you need at most a 12 year old system to run FF on Windows and a 6 year old system for Macintosh. Linux's restrictions are solely software dependencies.
Weird.
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System requirements
It's interesting looking at how the minimum requirements for 3.6 and 9 compare. In just under 2 years, the recommended hardware for FF has effectively quadrupled in Windows. Macs have odd changes and Linux doesn't warrant minimum/recommended requirements.
Looking at the recommended requirements from a different angle, you need at most a 12 year old system to run FF on Windows and a 6 year old system for Macintosh. Linux's restrictions are solely software dependencies.
Weird.
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Attorneys can't update.
Sigh. As one of the Righthaven tools[1] found out the hard way
... the CM/ECF system used by all Federal District Courts has been tested to work with FF 3.5; from extensive personal experience it also works fine with FF 3.6. It does not work at all with FF 4.0+ (in that you can't use FF to upload PDFs, which is all you'd use the Electronic Case Filing system for (document retrieval is done through PACER, though they overlap).For some stupid reason, ECF specifies an ACCEPT parameter of “image/*” for the PDF upload forms, which of course is incorrect (PDFs are MIME type “application/pdf” per IANA; see also, e.g., RFC 3778).
As of FF 4.0 (https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/input), that 'accept' parameter is honored and FF filters the file selector box to only permit image filetypes to be uploaded. End result? #massivefail
Yes, ECF is broken. But try getting not one, but 89, Federal bureaucracies to fix their tech in a timely fashion... (Each district court runs its own ECF system.)
Sigh.
[1] Declaration of Shawn A. Mangano, Esq., Righthaven LLC v. Democratic Underground, LLC, No. 10-cv-01356-RLH-GWF, docket entry 127-1 (Dist. Of Nevada, June 29, 2011)
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Meet my friends Greasemonkey, TamperData, and SQLI
In order to understand security, you must first understand how to hack or abuse a website. I recommend spending at least a week as a hacker. Here are some things to get your started:
1. Install Firefox or Chrome, I like Firefox for webdev.
2. Install GreaseMonkey https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/
3. Install TamperData https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tamper-data/
4. Learn about backend resource management and data validation, specifically SQL Injection. http://hackthissite.org/ is a great place to start
5. On your backend database ENCRYPT all sensitive data, names, account #s, social security, birth-dates. I like to encrypt all the fields then use an off-by-one Fibonacci encoding for numeric fields, so even if you are hacked/decrypted, this is still one more layer of encoding. So many fools do not encrypt their database field data and get owned by SQL-injection attacks or sever compromise. The list is long and distinguished.
6. Lastly, if you are running standard open-source packages test your site for cross-scripting vulnerabilities.
7. Web server lockdown depends on your server and platform Apache, IIS, Windows, Linux... but LOCK IT DOWN!
Also, don't do obvious things like put sql connect userid/passwords in your backend scripts especially if you are running a VM on a shared hosting server. Close down all unused ports/services on your server. Never trust the frontend firewall especially if it says CISCO on the front. Run tripwire. Run MRTG with Big Brother and monitor your traffic/activity and always keep an eye out for anomalies. Keep an eye on your logs and do daily backups.
There are hordes of hackers around the world looking to build backdoors into your site, especially if you have bandwidth and storage. Too many folks (including the new cloud guys like Amazon) have no baseline for activity on their system, get hacked, and are clueless.. maybe that is too harsh, I will say mostly clueless but getting better at responding.
If you need further help, I am available as an extremely expensive consultant, but I am slammed with work at the moment. Good Luck and remember the Internet is an extremely dangerous place. -
Meet my friends Greasemonkey, TamperData, and SQLI
In order to understand security, you must first understand how to hack or abuse a website. I recommend spending at least a week as a hacker. Here are some things to get your started:
1. Install Firefox or Chrome, I like Firefox for webdev.
2. Install GreaseMonkey https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/
3. Install TamperData https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tamper-data/
4. Learn about backend resource management and data validation, specifically SQL Injection. http://hackthissite.org/ is a great place to start
5. On your backend database ENCRYPT all sensitive data, names, account #s, social security, birth-dates. I like to encrypt all the fields then use an off-by-one Fibonacci encoding for numeric fields, so even if you are hacked/decrypted, this is still one more layer of encoding. So many fools do not encrypt their database field data and get owned by SQL-injection attacks or sever compromise. The list is long and distinguished.
6. Lastly, if you are running standard open-source packages test your site for cross-scripting vulnerabilities.
7. Web server lockdown depends on your server and platform Apache, IIS, Windows, Linux... but LOCK IT DOWN!
Also, don't do obvious things like put sql connect userid/passwords in your backend scripts especially if you are running a VM on a shared hosting server. Close down all unused ports/services on your server. Never trust the frontend firewall especially if it says CISCO on the front. Run tripwire. Run MRTG with Big Brother and monitor your traffic/activity and always keep an eye out for anomalies. Keep an eye on your logs and do daily backups.
There are hordes of hackers around the world looking to build backdoors into your site, especially if you have bandwidth and storage. Too many folks (including the new cloud guys like Amazon) have no baseline for activity on their system, get hacked, and are clueless.. maybe that is too harsh, I will say mostly clueless but getting better at responding.
If you need further help, I am available as an extremely expensive consultant, but I am slammed with work at the moment. Good Luck and remember the Internet is an extremely dangerous place. -
Re:First they get my hopes up, then ...
Here's the problem. With NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, Patriot Act you will be targeted for your content.
So if you put up a page saying you protest such things, then you just got added to the establishment's red list, for the fema camps. There is nothing a site owner can do. And everything your users can do to get you here.So....
It's better to have a 403 like so.
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.This way, nothing your domain says can get you in trouble.
For the record, my websites are now in this state.I used an
.htaccess file like soDENY FROM ALL
I then killed off my Youtube, Myspace, Gmail (moving to my ISP's email server), and if things get much worse, I will cut off paypal, amazon and ebay, and if they get worse, I will just stop buying ISP service.
I had a public access series, (music show) and it's now canceled for 2012.
Spend some time over at http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com and http://activistpost.com , Scrapbook some pages, learn who the enemy is. Learn what to do about it.
Restore the US Constitution.
Indict the treasonous oath breakers
Arrest the banksters and their government enablers.
Outlaw electronics in our elections. Get rid of the electoral college. Undo Citizens united.
Roll back all these psychopathic unconstitutional lawsI would be more than happy to get back into the music scene, but you have been deceived by corporate media over the past decade, instead you keep playing the Left vs Right Democrat vs Republican game, watching your TV's. It's BEYOND "now you have to turn that shit off." It's now all that crap infiltrating the web, from SEO blackhat trolling to seed story moderating. This system has to be replaced. It starts with removing your conscent, you can't do that if your watching the game master's broadcast.. You can't win the master's game, when the master makes the rules. So stop playing the game, and restore the US Constitution where it then dictates the game rules. Think about it, if a government officials are executed by death penalty for treason, this unconstitutional bullshit stops because it isn't ALLOWED in the first place. If the Logan Act was upheld, we wouldn't have AIPAC, NATO, the UN, NED, Freedom House spreading their fucking "democracy" (The US was not a Democracy, it was a Constitutional Republic) because they would be indicted, and jailed. The FACT is this is the problem, officials and banksters haven't yet been indicted or jailed, and yet they are still in power, stealing, killing, lying, and waring. It's the season of treason, and nothing can protect you but yourself. You have to protect your body and mind from their psychopathic fascist solar cult bullshit.
So you can sit on your ass and say, "so what a little death metal public access show is nothing, who gives a fuck, your just a lunatic satanist lover."
But at least NOW you know why it's gone. Now you know.Want me back?
Restore the Constitution.
It's unsafe to operate in 2012. (I HAVE record company friends and still I can't clarify what the fuck is going on)So I pulled the plug.
It wasn't a happy thing.
All my web published video material is now lost! (I'd be happy to mail bands copies of their original miniDV's)You want to run a show? Be a target?
Don't restore the constitution. -
Re:Not a very new problem.
http://bit.ly/rCBPp7 You don't know where that link goes until you click it. So, what do you do?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bitly-preview/
Shows full URL. Rule 1 don't click on URLs to unknown websites ESPECIALLY at work!
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Re:Interesting development
US laws do not protect foreign publishers in foreign countries, which have their own laws.
Which is why the US is now working on changing the law to make publishers not just liable for posts, but subject to takedowns by the US government without even proving the accusation. Which is why we must stop SOPA, to protect our freedom better than it's protected elsewhere.
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SOPA Will Criminalize This
Yes, courts currently have to rule the website is immune from legal consequences of non-moderated posts, because that's what the current law (DMCA) says.
Which is exactly why the current Congress is working to pass SOPA, which would criminalize those posts, and give the government the power to shut it down.
This is the same government that is now killing American citizens who haven't been proven to have committed any crime or offense, but have been only accused by someone in the bureaucracy. The same government that just gave itself the power to kidnap American citizens even inside the US and imprison them forever, in secret, without even charging them with a crime, let alone proving anything about them.
And if they pass SOPA, they will have the power to shut down any website where anyone posts a complaint about it. Accusations of copyright violation, accusations of terrorism, whatever is convenient to the law without any proof required will get it shut down. Your rights are nothing; government power and its corporate sponsors' money is everything.
That's why you should do something to stop SOPA (and its Senate partner PIPA). Before it's too late, and SOPA deletes any website where you might even try.
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Re:We need a Firefox plugin to flag GoDaddy sites
I currently use Flagfox, which provides an icon next to the URL bar with a handful of useful features, including being able to access whois in two clicks.
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Re:Lets get the facts straight.
You can read Mozilla's annual update here http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2010/ and see that we spend the money on people and infrastructure mostly.
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Re:Nothing wrong with this
Mozilla is building an open standards-based API for apps that allow app developers to develop once and run anywhere. Have a look here for a preview. We'll be investing considerably more in this project in the coming year. See more here https://apps.mozillalabs.com/
And no, Mozilla would absolutely not sacrifice something fundamental to our Mission for revenue. See more here http://www.mozilla.org/about/mission.html
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Re:Yay!
I believe thwart would be "boot to gecko" not web to gecko. Just saying.
http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/07/announcing-boot-to-gecko-b2g-booting-to-the-web/
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Re:Just because of speed?
maybe this will be of help:
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Re:No, Google like diversity
He probably just hasn't used it in a while. The first several releases really were unusable. I've got a friend who uses it regularity on Windows. It works find now, and has some snazzy graphics to boot. I'm still a dyed in the wool Firefox users (I'm an add-on author for Pete's sake), but for what it's worth Safari is faster than Firefox, not that it matters much on modern hardware.
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Re:What's really curious
Assuming of course they are referring to English, then this is likely the problem https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools/ 6 different English dictionaries listed there, with of course different spelling 'colouring' the use of language and that's only the technically skilled of the most popular versions of English, there are more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language.
What is really going on is the internationalisation of the language due to it being the most convenient global communication medium and the internet is spreading it and of course making the language a victim of it. Soon there will be a recognised Chinese English, Russian English etc. etc. (likely never a French English weird relationship between those two). So more spelling errors or just more American exceptionalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism.
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Re:Nurturing accuracy
Would that be the left that reflects reality rather than the right that serves what ever greed wants to believe.
There is no such thing as a corporate for profit mass media organisation, simply does not exist outside of the lies and delusions of the right. All for profit mass media corporations exist to sell add space and that space is sold to other for profit corporations to push the products and ideology. That ideology of profit above all else shapes that relationship. Truth in this case is for sale, with only ever just barely enough truth sold to keep the public accepting those lies that generate profits.
The Fox not-News network with it's three stooges like Fox and Friends news as example is just a gross perversion of selling news as advertising with no very little limits on the lies told. Lately they have started to collapse due to things like https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/murdoch-block/ (don't be an enabler install it today) and are having to resort to the truth more often than they would like too.
When it comes to 'mobocracy' you as always should chill for a bit until more information comes out, in the end thanks to the internet the truth most always eventually comes out (thats what's really killing Fox not-News).
As for Nike Air Jordan Concords a mass mock and shame campaign for the pathetic victims of marketing that buy and own them, seriously WTF.