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Reference for tankers? And is that to have the ship moving or have it docked?

Looking for tankers, I've found an old article,

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P74138.asp

"Tanker supply will be shrinking
Oil tanker stocks give me exactly that combination. Thanks to some regulations that take effect on April 5, 2005, about 12% of global tankers will be removed from the shipping supply."

Regulations are environmental. You can't have tankers dumping oil everywhere. Plus the requirement for the double hauled tankers and ban on single hauled ones.

Cost to ship is up 4x because of oil prices (you need that to *move* the ship), increasing supply demand, lack of tankers, higher costs of making new tankers, etc...

Everything is up 300-400%, but "official" inflation is still low. Who is kidding whom.

And I couldn't help it,

"The Wall Street consensus is that supply will increase enough to cut prices to $25 per 42-gallon barrel or less from the current $36 level"

They were bloody wrong!

Not only did they lose focus, but their founder and insiders have no hope.

I used to be a sizable shareholder in PALM, dating back to the old US Robotics days. I made a small bit of money overall, but got out when it was clear also to me that they were doing *nothing* as far as I could tell. I think the final straw for me was when they had a big press release for the release of their new and COMPLETELY UGLY orange logo. Weren't they supposed to be a technology company?

The death of palm is really a shame. Take a look at this:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/insider/trans.asp?symbol=palm

Not pretty.

Try another dictionary.

This looks to be a "model." I would not read too much into it.

Read the caveats at the end of the article:

"We are not recommending that governments stop trying to prevent obesity," van Baal said. "But they should do it for the right reasons."

"The study, paid for by the Dutch Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sports, did not take into account other potential costs of obesity and smoking, such as lost economic productivity or social costs."

I don't mind you having fun at the end of your life. But one model w/o stats. does not convince me that I'm won't be paying for your problems thru my tax dollars.

From http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Forbes/The5MostExpensiveAddictions.aspx:

Alcohol. Estimated annual cost: $166 billion. Binge drinking hits the unemployed harder on a per capita basis -- 10.4%, vs. 8.4% of employed people. It is most prevalent in small metropolitan locales, rather than big cities or rural areas. The $18 billion spent on alcohol and drug treatment last year represented 1.3% of all health care spending.

Smoking. Estimated annual cost: $157 billion. The tab includes $75 billion in direct medical expenses, with the rest in lost productivity from ill patients missing work. Given the low-tax (or no-tax) underground cigarette economy on the Web and on Indian reservations, it's unlikely that sales and usage have dropped much over the past decade, official government statistics notwithstanding.

Drugs. Estimated annual cost: $110 billion. Like alcohol, illicit drug use is more prevalent among the unemployed. Most addicts are also heavy drinkers, though only a small minority of alcoholics are drug abusers. Crystal meth has followed marijuana, cocaine and heroin as the drug of choice among the young set.

Overeating. Estimated annual cost: $107 billion. Overeating increases the risk of many health problems, including heart attacks. Obesity causes 14% of attacks suffered by males and 20% of those suffered by females, the National Institutes for Health says, and fewer than a third of adults get regular exercise. The bulk of the $107 billion is the direct cost to treat heart disease, osteoarthritis, hypertension, gall bladder disease and cancer.

Actually, it's a hip to waist ratio that's the big indicator. Athletic people have bigger hips (muscular ass), but not necessarily a smaller waist.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9913508

I've got a BMI over 25 and 35 inch waist, but I ride 60 miles at least once a week, can run a sub 20 minute 5k, have a resting heart rate in the 50s, low blood pressure and cholesterol. No doctor in America would say I'm unhealthy, but according to BMI I'm borderline obese, and according to waist measurement I'd be costing my Japanese employer a fortune.

We're not all shaped the same Virginia.

I know martinw89 linked a page containing all of the links, but in case that was too confusing, I better link them again:

Article 1
Article 2
Article 3
Article 4
Article 5
Article 6
Article 7
Article 8
Article 9

Hope that helps

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19374216/
29% of men 9% of women have had 15 or more partners. (meaning 71% have had less)

http://www.durex.com/cm/gss2004Content.asp?intQid=401
average around the world 10.5

http://www.physorg.com/news10824.html
this ones neat because men claimed an average of 31. but 21% of those admitted to lying, to boost their numbers on the the same survey, and of the group that claimed more than 50 partners over 50% of them also admitted to lying.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/HSP/97trends/sd4-4.htm
69% of sexually active teen males reported http://www.denverpost.com/ci_6204119
"Almost one in three American men say they've had sex with at least 15 partners in their lives, triple the rate of similar behavior found in interviews with women, according to a government survey. "

Meaning 2 in 3 have had less.

"The average number of female sexual partners for men was 6.8, said Kathryn Porter, a medical officer for the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics in Hyattsville, Maryland, and one of the study's co-authors. Women reported an average of 3.7 male sexual partners, she said."

http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=1100
This one is neat too, because it breaks down by country, the USA is ~10.5 (it apparently is based on the same data as the durex link.) Turkey ranks highest at 14.5.

The numbers are apparently going up though, when you compare 1960s and 70s surveys to more recent surveys... or maybe people just lie more. After all the sixty's was the era of 'free love'.

Apparently it also varies heavily based on where you live. I think I read somewhere that New York city is apparently double or triple the national average.

"The Bush docterine has in fact, been highly successful. We have not been attacked at home again since 911. There is no getting around that fact. "

In the 9/11 attacks 2,998 people died and over 6,000 were injured. The world responded with a huge outpouring of support and quickly became allies in ousting the Taliban. In the Iraq war, there have been 4,102 American military deaths, and another 313 military deaths from other countries. 29,978 Americans have been injured by tally from iCasualties. Over 900 contractors have been killed and 12,000 wounded by May 2007. Iraq Body Count, which probably has the most stringent standards (ie certainly will under-report) in reporting Iraqi deaths has an estimated 85,060 to 92,787 fatalities. The in/famous Lancet studies estimated 654,965 Iraqi fatalities through the end of June 2006. In addition to the carnage, we've got a military in a shambles that will take a decade or more and hundreds of billions of dollars to refit and rebuild. Our deficit has swelled. Our economy is staggering around punch-drunk. We've pissed off the world in a way that has never been done before. We've taken our eye off the ball in Afghanistan, and the Taliban are regaining strength both there and in nuclear-armed Pakistan. It is indisputable that Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, indeed Saddam was an enemy of fundamentalist Islamic terrorism. Iraq is now a terrorist breeding ground.

And the evidence that this is protecting us, rather than killing, maiming, bankrupting, and making us less safe is that there hasn't been another attack on (excluding the frequent mortar and rocket attacks on our embassy in Iraq) US soil yet? I got a magic rock to sell you. Ever since I started carrying it I haven't been attacked by tigers. Low cost, only $140,000--about the same cost of one minute of the Iraq war.

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Here's #2.

oh yeah, no problems

(I'm sure someone in another post already pointed this out, but I'm too lazy to check.) The fact that this is happening is old news. Been the case for a few years, despite their claim that they were taking steps to fix it.

More likely he will say that, "Nuclear is an important part of our national ongoing energy strategy, along with clean, renewable energy in the form of wind and solar and whatever."

Means the same thing really; McCain pushed so-called "clean coal" at the same time as he pushed Nuclear, which is a bit more Republican of him, since coal states are red states, and big electric has no desire to stop building coal plants.

Nuclear is the best of a lot of bad options, and regardless of presidents, the return to nuclear power has already begun, as witnessed by the resurge in permit applications since last year.

Desalination on the scales we're talking about has the potential for serious environment impact.

I also seem to recall hearing about desalination causing earthquakes, but I can't find the link.

It's not really Google's doing - just people exploiting the page rank algorithm by getting a lot of people to link to the site using particular terms. Normally this is a good input to an algorithm, but it means it's easy to get a particular site to the top for a particular phrase, so long as that phrase isn't commonly used to link to sites.

"Miserable failure" used to be a good one on Google, and this article gives a good overview of the phenomenon, which Google have implemented some measures to prevent.

It also mentions that the Yahoo! and MSN/Live search still returned the targeted page, but only Yahoo! seems to still be returning the the Whitehouse site as its top result now.

Holy shit, for once the "x person is dead" posts are right.

Well, according to MSNBC (among others), this is what he said about the habeas corpus ruling:

"The United States Supreme Court yesterday rendered a decision which I think is one of the worst decisions in the history of this country,"

"...Part carnival ride, part hefty office furniture..." http://doesitwork.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/05/1118057.aspx

There are a couple of questions at hand. What 'experience' is helpful for a president? How important is it? And does Obama have it?

First, let me talk about the experience Obama does have. Obviously a 72 year old has more experience than a 47 year old, but if age was the deciding factor, we'd just always elect the oldest guy running for president and be done with it. Obama, despite his relatively young age, has a lot of experience that is relevant. By the time he takes his oath of office, he'd have 12yrs of legislative experience serving in elected office. During that time he worked across the aisle with Republicans to find issues that they could agree on, and get legislature passed.

But let me start a bit earlier. After earning a degree in political science from Columbia University, Obama took a job earning only $13,000 a year as the Director of the Developing Communities Project, a faith-based community-organizing agency. After 5 years, he concluded that he could help people more through politics, so he went to Harvard were he was elected president of the Harvard Law Review (an extremely prestigious position) and graduated magna cum laude.

Obama could have gotten a great-paying job at this point, but again he returned to grass-roots democracy and ran a voter-registration drive that added more than 150,000 voters. After that successful voter registration drive, Obama returned to teach constitutional law for another 11 years before being elected to the Illinois state senate.

So what does Obama's early history tell us? He's interested in American democracy and grass-roots democracy in particular. He's extremely intelligent. And he's sacrificed to help people less fortunate then himself.

Having studied or participated in it his entire adult life, Obama probably knows more about the way American government runs than most presidents did when elected.

Some people when they say 'experience' are talking about foreign relations. But all three candidates are senators, not Vice Presidents, and none have served as cabinet members. The only committee in the senate that deals with Foreign Relations (as far as I know) is the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. The only candidate for the presidency serving on this committee is Barack Obama. (Admittedly, he hasn't been there long).

I could also give you some quotes from some military guys that support Obama:

Clifford Alexander, former Secretary of the Army
"I've known Barack since the mid-90s. I've seen him in lots of positions, and I compare his leadership skills, most favorably, with the civilian and military leaders that I've seen throughout my professional life."

Richard Danzig, former Secretary of the Navy
"I think people recognize, anybody who deals with Sen. Barack Obama, what an extraordinary Commander-In-Chief he would be. And I think it's difficult for others to effectively deny that. ⦠The reality is, as Secretary Alexander said right at the outset, and Secretary Peters seconded it, it's character, and it's judgment."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/10/751685.aspx

In fact when we look back at previous presidents, experience has had no correlation with how good a president they were. Dr. Andrew Tanenbaum (famous computer science guy you've probably never heard of), has done a statistical analysis that shows this:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Info/experience.html

I'll let you examine the details in the link above, or you can take my word that experience does not correlate with being a good president.

I think Toni Morrison said it best: "[Obama has a] creative imagination which coupled with brilliance equals wisdom" Obama has shown that creative imagination in his ability to find consensus and progress where others only see division and roadblocks. His raw intelligence is

So does Obama. It's called MSNBC and it's downright painful to watch it at times. And I'm a fucking Democrat saying that! I had hoped that we wouldn't go down the road of Bill O'Reilly but it seems that my hope was misplaced.

This could be the reason. Also seems like it may be a good reason not to have a president that played football with Moses.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22670498/

I have a phase diagram of water here that disagrees with you (and anyone who modded you informative. geez, people, hand in your geek licenses please).

See that boundary line in the lower-left corner, where vapor and ice are directly adjacent to each other ? That's where water sublimes.

http://encarta.msn.com/media_461541579/phase_diagram_for_water.html

First, to be "outed", Valerie Plame would have had to be a covert operative. She wasn't at that time.

Sorry, I was barely paying attention to this thread, but couldn't help noticing this bit of misinformation.

Plame was covert agent at time of name leak --MSNBC

Yes, Valerie Plame Was Covert --CBSNews

Leak Prosecutor says Plame was Covert --NYTimes

Video: Valerie Plame confirms her covert status --thinkprogress.org

etc.

You may be confused because of the following misinformation campaign:

Right-wing noise machine: Plame not covert --Salon

I don't see how a vote failing in the democratically-controlled congress could be blamed on the minority Republican party. This is Congress's last chance to say that a President unconstitutionally usurping Congressional war powers is unacceptable, and will lead to impeachment. If they sit on their hands as Pelosi intends, the message to all future Presidents will be loud and clear: you can do whatever you want with the military, and Congress won't stop you. The message to the current President will also be loud and clear: we let you get away with invading Iraq, so go ahead and get our country into another mess in Iran and you'll get away with that, too.

Substance is what history will judge his term on, and barring any major changes in the Middle East, it's unlikely to be kind.

I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and - you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows - (know) this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday...

Substance is what history will judge his term on, and barring any major changes in the Middle East, it's unlikely to be kind.

I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and - you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows - (know) this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/

But even at peak production, the EIA analysis said, the United States would still have to import two-thirds of its oil, as opposed to an expected 70 percent if the refuge's oil remained off the market.

Don't like the price of oil? Ask your representative to push renewable technologies. Otherwise, don't wine about the price of oil. It's not our right as American's to cheap oil, so we better get over it now, before China and India are consuming more than us.

What if one of your employees was issued a congressional subpoena and you ordered them to ignore it? What would happen to you then? This isn't about Clinton at all.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19704513/

McCain was a crook then, and he is now

Man! That's one hell of a scary picture, those two!

Helio Ocean then? To be honest, I don't know what they have in Europe, but I hear it's better.

We have the technology to get there

If you want references, try Google and Wikipedia. Perhaps you've heard of them.

I've heard of them. I've heard the accusations. We can't sell to company XYZ becasue of this. What I haven't seen is the smoking gun contract, agreement, etc on this exclusionary anti-competitive practice. That is why I asked for refrences. There are lots of accusations, but no documentation of actual ethics violations. Got some email? Company contracts? Do you make machines? Do you have an exclusionary contract? If so, how about a scan and post?

One company selling quad core chips at a profit for a lower price at a profit while another company is selling a slower part with supply issues for a loss does not make an exclusive contract anymore than trying to sell $12 gas in a market filled with $4 gas. If your gas has a cost to produce of $10 and you have a policy of underpricing the $4 producer by 20%, don't scream monolpoly abuse when your profit is a negative number.

Intel does not have exclusionary contracts that I know of. They do offer volume discounts and rebates. Other than leave little room for a shop to produce both lines without cutting back on the rebates and volume discounts, I haven't seen anything regarding a bonus for having absolutely no other processor. Microsoft is more in this camp where a PC manufacture does indeed get a substantual break only if they buy licenses for 100% of their product. This has been rulled bad boy behavior. Only after anti-trust action are we starting to see non-Windows PC's enter the market. This is not the case with Intel and PC manufactures. Many manufactures carry both Intel and AMD lines.

Oh, refrences,,, OK.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23076019/
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2006/09/14/dell-amd-boxes-vastly-cheaper-than-intel

Dell boxes with AMD are cheaper, but at a loss for AMD.
AMD can't compete on price anymore as Intel has upped the ante for lower cost to manufacture.

WTF jackass. Were you in a coma when Bush became president and canceled every reasonable alternative energy program in existence, and then blew smoke about Hydrogen, a technology that wouldn't be commercially viable for at least another 20 years and until gasoline hit $10 a gallon?

What reasonable alternative energy program did Bush cancel? None. Why? Because currently, there is no REASONABLE alternative energy available. We have ethanol, which didn't get canceled, although it probably would have been better if were.

Bush stopped alternative energy research.

Again, source? What got canceled? If you were interested in facts, you'd know that what you say simply isn't true. Here is something from MSNBC, which is no fan of the president, btw:

Energy conservation groups and environmentalists say they're pleased that the president, a former oil man in Texas, is stressing alternative sources of energy...

Also, from HERE:

$10 billion of loan guarantees will go towards renewable and/or energy efficient systems and manufacturing, and distributed energy generation, transmission, and distribution.

Does $10 BILLION dollars equal stopping alternative energy research?

And in the area of nuclear power, Bush did absolutely nothing to lead the US into clean electricity generation of any kind. He can't even pronounce the word nuclear correctly.

Yucca mountain ring a bell? Every one of Bush's attempts to generate energy of any kind has been blocked by Democrats in congress.
Here is a little quote from Democrats.com:

President Bush is promoting the use of nuclear power plants to generate electricity. It seems a political choice. Investing in nuclear power plants can be attempted only by very large corporations, of the kind that are in his support base. They belong to a very exclusive big-money club, and there are many billions of dollars at stake. But to belong, one also has to be willing to forget Three Mile Island, to forget market economics, nuclear proliferation, radioactive waste and, in particular, to forget nuclear terrorism.

Here is how former gov of NY Elliot Spencer (D) sees it:

New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has come out against the re-licensing of the two reactors at Indian Point, a nuclear plant about 30 miles north of Manhattan.

Tell me again. WHO is stopping us from producing nuclear power? (Also, Jimmy Carter couldn't pronounce nuclear either and he was a nuclear engineer!)

Please elaborate on what brilliant Bush Energy Policies were stopped by the Democratic congress.

Uh, all of them. From HERE:

Bush, whose energy plan has been stalled in Congress for four years, is facing increased pressure from Democrats...

So, for four years...FOUR YEARS, the US had no energy policy.

And before you congratulate yourself further for "understanding supply and demand," how about reading up on what a cartel is and what it does to competition? Ever hear of OPEC? The US could strip mine Alaska and OPEC could make the whole operation a bust simply by turning its valve.

So you suggest that we do nothing? Viable alternative energy is at least 20 years away. You're OK with us being beholden to said "cartel" until then?

You were identified as a troll above, I should have taken note.

Yeah, slashdot mods think that anyone with a different view than their own is a troll. They downmod you when they can't come up with a valid response. I was also modded insightful four times to two trolls. One of the trol

Don't count out Russia yet as a possible US foe... Most of the Nuclear fuel used by the US Navy currently comes from Russian Nuclear Weapons we purchase and reprocess. They could always choose another buyer...

The Boogie-Man that worries me: China ANGRY...
China will someday become Very Oil-Deprived, Over-Populated, Starving, and desperately needing to maintain their economy with the fruits of Oil. (this could very well happen...)

Realize we are in the middle of what Historians are already calling "The Oil Age".
Even the Big Oil Companies themselves are agreed that the halfway point of "Peak Oil" production is now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil

The world economy is based on a substance (Oil) that yields 100x the energy used to extract it, and modify it, and market it.
There is NO alternative to Oil other than NUCLEAR that can compete on that ~100x cost/benefit yield concept. When it starts going very scarce wars will happen. This is the nature of man.
I am no expert, but me thinks the 'war in Iraq' and the over 12+ 'permanent' military bases being built there ( http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm ) and the 100+ Acre US Embassy ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/ ) are what I call "Prudent Planning".

Like it or not, the world as we know it is built on OIL.
I for one, am glad we have established a new good footing in the middle of old Babylon ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon ), because we are going to surely need it in the future when the oil wars REALLY get underway. (And in fact, the US presence being there will likely prevent larger wars and ensure that what wars do occur, will be as small as we can cause them to be. It's the big Picture.

McCain did volunteer and serve and sacrifice in our military for our country with honors during the Cold War.
He will bring to the presidential desk wisdom, knowledge, and experience which no other candidate can begin to claim they have in this election.
The next president Must understand how to lead our military and how utilize it to best protect our economy and people and mitigate larger wars that are very very likely when Oil runs out.

It's not just Google that's doing this. CNBC and the Wall Street Journal also started providing free real-time quotes today. MSN Money has been doing this for a while.

Granted, some of these require a subscription (MSN, WSJ)--a point noted by the submitter--but all of these services appear to be free-as-in-beer. I don't think a subscription is that big a deal; YMMV.

From what I can tell, CNBC doesn't mention either a subscription or a daily/monthly limit; I admit I haven't looked at their service in detail though.

Interesting how few people here actually realize the painful reality of X PRIZE's attitudes about human life. It is well known to many insiders that XPRIZE and their "royalty" do not care about the sacrifices other people make to help achieve their goals. It is a just cause to RISK another human's life to achieve their dreams.

While what X PRIZE does is very cool, everyone should remember these words:

Tragedy in the new space race - MSNBC July 29, 2007

"This was an industrial accident. This has nothing to do with spaceflight," he was quoted as saying. "I have complete confidence that they are building a safe and robust spaceship."

Totalitarian Temptation in Space - SPACEDAILY May 21, 2006

DIAMANDIS: If you look back at what von Braun did in Nazi Germany it was incredible what you can do with literally a dictatorship. Look at the numbers. 6,000 V-2s built. 6,000 missiles were built in Nazi Germany. The recurring cost was $13,000 a launch for those vehicles. You can bring the cost down with mass production. We'll come back to what will drive ... [Multiple audience comments -- "SLAVE LABOR"]
DIAMANDIS: Yea, and slave labor, Sorry.
[NERVOUS LAUGHTER]
DIAMANDIS: But you know - again to you, the rest of us would happily be slave labor for that mission... Can you erase that from the video tape?

Deep insights into the man running the show.

These are just a few of the quotes that are in press that really show their/his true colors. Don't get me wrong, there are very good people within X PRIZE that are still hanging on in hopes it will get better, but sadly these last, very underpaid "nice-guys" and girls are drinking the Kool-Aid.

To Dr. Rosen, Ms Castleman, evangellydonut and the rest of the SELENE team I say Bravo! Thank you for taking the high road. Good for you for having a BRAIN to understand where the real innovations in space activities need to occur; for having a HEART and caring about how X PRIZE treats people and the public, and a SPINE to stand on your principles and walk out of this project.

What do you mean they didn't even try Verizon, the largest mobile phone service? Based on this week-old article from MSNBC regarding a class action lawsuit involving cancellation fees, Verizon is number 2. Later in the article it is mentioned AT&T has 70 million subscribers while Verizon has 66 million. Granted, AT&T only wins by 4 million but it wins nonetheless.

By the time we run out of ANWR oil, we won't need it anymore.

By the time we run out of ANWR oil, we won't need it anymore.

MSNBC is now showing a few color snippets:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24811991/

The bottom part might be where the landing rockets blew away rubble.

Will Businesses Skip Windows Vista Altogether?

Corporate Americaâ(TM)s rejection of Vista

Microsoft may allow businesses to skip Vista, go direct from XP to Windows 7

Businesses could skip Vista for Windows 7

On another note, but related to tfa, in the news:
Bush signs genetic discrimination bill

Not a huge surprise.

why do they insist on likening anything with a display and controls to playing a video game?