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Public television is no betterPBS started out sponsor-free and is now sponsor-infested. You are watching some show and suddenly everything grinds to a halt and a seemingly endless stream of overly-happy people start annoying you. What is worse is that they do this for an unknown amount of time -- I just switch the channel and don't switch back.
Still, given the general tone of what they are saying, you assume (and they are counting on this) when you look into the sponsors of PBS that they will turn out to be honorable entities. Well, it turns out that the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, for one, is one of the great scams of all time -- check out the book about HH's life (I don't remember which one it was that I listened to on Audible.com 15 years ago, sorry). HHMI is the Monsanto of medical "foundations".I call this sort of thing the "got milk" scam. Something that seems reasonable that absolutely everyone is bombarded with turns out to be Class A stupid. Happy rich celebrities with milk mustaches are quite a long way from the reality of milk.
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Re:Humans are supposed to be vegan...
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/lean-challenge_b_1432765.html http://www.llli.org/FAQ/bflength.html http://www.notmilk.com/ http://www.naturalnews.com/031255_milk_health.html Hell, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+milk+is+bad+for+humans Cow's milk is essential only for their calf, and only when they are growing, just like human breast milk for their children. It is a myth that more milk is good for our bones and yadda yadda. The USDA pushes the milk campaign to keep making money.
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Not Milk
It's not just an interesting read.. it's downright scary.
Guy I work with is borderline Aspergers.. can't ever tell if you are being funny or serious from your words and facial expression alone.. but is otherwise Normal.. but if he gets coconut (it's the oil, apparently, more than the rest of the coconut) or chocolate in him.. wow.. he goes sideways fast: Mental speedup, tripping speach, mental jumping, anger.. and it all fades after an hour or so.
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Re:We're all looking for the milk
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Re:Wherein I retortif I want to respond to you, I'll respond to [you]. Of course, and I wasn't demanding a reply (although I did invite one.) All I meant by what you quoted is that I'd be disappointed if the person launching that particular "dumbass" diatribe behind the shield of AC posting was you, resorting to anonymous vindictives instead of cogent argument. I'd rather people not reply at all than resort to those antics. (Yes, I know... "I must be new here.")
The only 'flaw' I know of in my post-under-discussion is that (a) I didn't make it clear I was talking about the *asking* price spiking, and (b) I was apparently ignorant of the actual mechanics of how an agricultural subsidy is actually implemented by the gov.
But, I don't believe either of those flaws to be fatal to my argument; the mechanism of subsidy is immaterial. So if my argument is a house of cards, then I'm still waiting for someone to elucidate. But thus far no one has risen to that challenge.
Recap:
(1) Your assertion that milk would be 'too expensive to make' without subsidies seems to be the flawed argument. There is simply too much milk being produced. Instead of artificially inflating demand by lowering the price, just let some dairy farms falter. Supply will then drop to the point where price has risen enough to cover the cost of production, and provide a reasonable ROI. There will be less supply, but also less demand. And, the dairy farms remaining will actually earn a reasonable living. The others will move on to other sources of (hopefully unsubsidized) income.
(2) This shell game with subsidies doesn't reduce the cost of producing milk anyway. We still pay that cost as either deficit, taxes, or inflation.
(3) Milk is not a necessity.
If you disagree with (3), I'd like to see a source... but it's largely tangental to my economical argument anyway. I *hope* you don't disagree with (2), although you might believe that taxes are OK, as long as the wealthier-than-you croud is paying it. (If so, then we're arguing opinion, not fact.) So your best bet in exposing my argument as a house of cards is to find fault with (1).
Lest you think me a troll: I used to be much more right-wing on social issues than I am now. I've moved to slightly left-of-center over the years, due in no small part to counter arguments that I could not refute. -
Re:so you're the scientific authority?
Bovine growth hormone is something that occurs naturally in cow milk, whether or not the cow is supplemented.
That's probably why they say ``not treated with
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Re:Whooaa
Aside from the fact the milk is bad for you http://www.notmilk.com/. I've stopped drinking it because factory farms have taken over. I've curtailed eating beef and pork because of factory farms and switched over to lamb. I still eat beef and pork, but try to get Nimam Ranch http://www.nimanranch.com/ now. I buy cheese that originate from Europe, since USian products are much more likely to have Monsanto's grubby hands in the works. What a horrible state of affairs that allowed Corporations to take over government!
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Re:you clearly demonstrate a lack ofFrom your continuing spewing of "I know everything there is to know, never mind the unknowns", it would seem that you prefer to be ignorant and live in denial. Like the typical American you'd be happier watching your TV and believing that only what it tells you is true.
First of all, it is incredibly uncommon for strict vegetarians (those who don't drink milk) to get diabetes. Try looking at the health of people around the world who are even mostly vegetarians and you will find very very low incidences of heart disease, diabetes, and cancer (all common in meat eaters).
Second, for those vegetarians that drink milk, of course they are at risk of prion-based diseases.
Third, the "BSE scare" is a well-founded concern. Unless you have raised your brain solely on American beef and TV, you know there was a major BSE outbreak in Europe. This outbreak was far worse than it had to be because of industry and government coverups and a basic unwillingless to do BSE testing on all the cows. Go to the BBC and European news sites and do the damn research instead of throwing cheap insults at me. Britain and Europe learned the hard way, through many deaths, about BSE.
Fourth, typically it is politicians that hurl stupid insults at other people, not normal people. As you have a penchant for insulting me, I would gather, empirically, that you are the politician. Or you may just be one of those "angry" people (one of the symptoms of CJD by the way).
Fifth, your admission of trying to trap me tells me everything I need to know about you -- that you are the one with the agenda, the covert purposes and an undisclosed special interest. Good people put what they know on the table and work together to find out what is real and to make each person's life better using the information and tools at hand.
If you cannot even have a discussion on Slashdot without running your little mind games and hidden agenda, it shows what a wretched person you are. I would guess that like most people who require "proof from quantum theory on up", you have low self-esteem. That could also explain the personal attacks. If you cannot think clearly, well, that is another CJD symptom.
You do not even have the courage to post your messages using your named account. That also tells me a lot on who is running the little games. You don't even have the strength of conviction to stand behind your words. Or perhaps if you are the original naysayer, don't want everyone on Slashdot to know how hard it is for you to say "I was wrong".
Lastly, I am not trying to convince you of anything. If you want to learn something and make a decision about it, do the reading. Yes, this requires more work than watching TV so you probably don't know how to do it. If you are sensitive to this topic because you've eaten beef (or other cow products) and you know your brain is not working as well as it used to... I'd suggest turmeric and a program of anti-oxidants and brain-centric nutrition. Try and save what's left, for your sake. Good luck.
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Dairy based?
I think it's probably best to try and avoid dairy products where possible!
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Re:What argument?
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Re:The goverment should regulate EULAs
I come from the country, where this was the case, and as a result there was no milk in the stores.
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Re:Carbonated Milk
Vitamin D is added to help calcium absorbtion
and http://www.notmilk.com
Though personally I don't give a crap what you drink, I wish that the dairy board weren't so powerful as to get my tax money so that milk drinkers pay less for an animal product (which is more expensive per calorie to produce) while those of us who can't or choose not to (I'm one of the former) drink milk must pay more for substitutes.
And I wish that 'non-dairy' didn't involve caesin (as I'm violently allergic to it, but it can be added to all sorts of things, including lox, without being mentioned. why? because the dairy board sucks and told the FDA that it was better that way)
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Conversion
I Asked Jeeves, and found a nifty Mass Conversion Calculator. It claims that 244 grams is approximately 8.6 oz, or a little over half a pound. Hmm, weighs about as much as two quarter pounders from McDonald's (without the cheese, of course, since I'm allergic). It still seems kinda heavy to tote around in one's front pocket, but with that many features, sure! So what if only half of those many features work in my area!
Aciel
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