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It's even easier than ncpmount nowadays. There was the novelclient (yep, that's the spelling). It was basically a front end for ncpmount.

Novell has published a nearly full featured client. http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15402. html

They also have integrated Groupwise support into evolution. The native windows fat client is still better, but at least i don't have to keep a seperate box just for running groupwise. http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/ev olution.html

isn't that what the open source business model is already doing? See Redhat subscription , MySQL subscription , SuSe Linux Enterprise 9 subscription

If I don't buy one of these subscriptions, my software doesn't get bug fixes, security updates, which means it is unfit for further use. Essentially it means I have to stop using the software.

There is a Novell client for Linux, with that you should be able to access your Netware volumes. Here is the client for SUSE 9.3 Pro. You will probably have to create your own ebuild file if you want to integrate it in your Gentoo system.

• Novell Linux Desktop
  SuSE Linux 10
  Novell Open Enterprise Server

• Novell Linux Desktop
  SuSE Linux 10
  Novell Open Enterprise Server

• Novell Linux Desktop
  SuSE Linux 10
  Novell Open Enterprise Server

Sounds odd. What version of Netware is it, and can you mount the Netware drives on Windows clients that don't have IPX installed? If you can, then it should be possible to do the same from Linux - maybe using the Novell Linux client, that someone else suggested. If it doesn't work on Gentoo straight off, you could maybe try a Suse live CD.

Also, http://www.novell.com/documentation/nw65/tcpipenu/ data/acjxc7b.html describes a bit about the Novell TCP/IP options. If you really need to go IPX, then follow the other links (ncpfs etc), but routing will be a lot more limited.

You mean, like Novell is doing with this:
http://www.novell.com/products/linuxsmallbiz/

I would also like to note that in the country I live(Norway) I see that Microsoft Small Buisness Server with 5 clients costs above 6000,- Norwegian kroner(It would actually be about $1000), whereas as far as I can see, Novell Small Buisness Server costs... $475, and I do believe that includes eDirectory, 100 clients, etc. That's _HALF_ the price of Microsoft SBS, and eDirectory is a dream come true.

Of course anyone wanting to change platform should do some real testing before deploying it in a production environment, but that's why there's Fedora Core and OpenSUSE.

Novell now offers an official linux client that works really well. I beta tested it at work and now use it on a regular basis, the only catch is that you need SuSE or NLD, but you may or may not be able to hack it to work with Gentoo (if you do I would like to know, cus i prefer Gentoo over SuSE). I have found that it has better performance than the open source alternatives and it reads your log in scripts as well. You can find the linux client at http://download.novell.com./ This is the best way to solve your problem.

Novell has a very nice proprietary client out now which runs on Suse 9.3, 10.0, and the Novell Linux Desktop. But it doesn't do IPX as far as I know. Also I don't know that it will run on Gentoo. If you get it to work you should submit a how-to to the Novell Cool Solutions site. For older distributions and ones which aren't from Novell you can try the Open Source Novel Client for Linux which doesn't support Gentoo per se but might be made to work with minimal fiddling.

Novell has a very nice proprietary client out now which runs on Suse 9.3, 10.0, and the Novell Linux Desktop. But it doesn't do IPX as far as I know. Also I don't know that it will run on Gentoo. If you get it to work you should submit a how-to to the Novell Cool Solutions site. For older distributions and ones which aren't from Novell you can try the Open Source Novel Client for Linux which doesn't support Gentoo per se but might be made to work with minimal fiddling.

Novell has heard the cry of thousands before you and they have developed a solution. Novell Virtual Office runs on Open Enterprise Server(OES) which can be either Netware or SuSE Linux.

Sorry, MS is not a supported platform for this solution. MS did try their own solution but it fell way short with Share Point. Share Point blows chunks and sucks balls at the same time!

I'm sure it's a pure coincidence that this coincides with the release of Novell SUSE Linux 10.0.

http://www.novell.com/products/openenterpriseserve r/iscsi.html

NSS 3.0 does up to 8TB I believe. XFS does 9PB?

First of all, of course you are blind:

http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/profe ssional/xfce4-desktop.html
http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/profe ssional/postgresql-server.html

Ok, mr I-know-it-all-master-of-the-universe?
I can tell you all the other clients (like xfce-mcs, xfce4-session) are there too. In fact, Im posting from a SUSE with XFCE right now. So next time, please do exactly what I said, and go to a mirror, add it as installation-source and do "yast -i postgresql", "yast -i xfce4-desktop", ok? Or, as I said too, get the boxed set and will be all there. The boxed dvd is easy for people with poor knowledge of the distro, and saves you time and problems, not to mention you wouldnt post incorrect information, ok?

I see you are not very knowledgeable in package management. apt-get just manages RPMs.... It cannot "cause rpm hell by conflicting with identical versions". Your phrase almost make me laugh. Said that, I dont recommend using another manager when you already have yast and y2pmsh.

What do you mean with "distro go obsolete in a matter of months"? You want SUSE to start upgrading madly to the new version everyday? This is not debian testing. This is a stable release. You dont get the release cycle thing? Since you dont, now you can also use SUSE 10.1alpha3, to stay on the edge.

I thiink you are a debian fan boy. Sorry, but its all it seems. If you want debian, go debian, but stop this non sense comments. If you refuse to pay, dont pay. If it keeps "commercial", certainly its not caused by usig RPM (or I cant have a commercial distro with .deb's).

How does this get insightful, 2, when all I see is wrong information, and a little rant on "rpm distros"??

gosh

First of all, of course you are blind:

http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/profe ssional/xfce4-desktop.html
http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/profe ssional/postgresql-server.html

Ok, mr I-know-it-all-master-of-the-universe?
I can tell you all the other clients (like xfce-mcs, xfce4-session) are there too. In fact, Im posting from a SUSE with XFCE right now. So next time, please do exactly what I said, and go to a mirror, add it as installation-source and do "yast -i postgresql", "yast -i xfce4-desktop", ok? Or, as I said too, get the boxed set and will be all there. The boxed dvd is easy for people with poor knowledge of the distro, and saves you time and problems, not to mention you wouldnt post incorrect information, ok?

I see you are not very knowledgeable in package management. apt-get just manages RPMs.... It cannot "cause rpm hell by conflicting with identical versions". Your phrase almost make me laugh. Said that, I dont recommend using another manager when you already have yast and y2pmsh.

What do you mean with "distro go obsolete in a matter of months"? You want SUSE to start upgrading madly to the new version everyday? This is not debian testing. This is a stable release. You dont get the release cycle thing? Since you dont, now you can also use SUSE 10.1alpha3, to stay on the edge.

I thiink you are a debian fan boy. Sorry, but its all it seems. If you want debian, go debian, but stop this non sense comments. If you refuse to pay, dont pay. If it keeps "commercial", certainly its not caused by usig RPM (or I cant have a commercial distro with .deb's).

How does this get insightful, 2, when all I see is wrong information, and a little rant on "rpm distros"??

gosh

Here are 10 or 11 repositories of SuSE compile RPM's: http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Re positories Here's how to install then as sources for YaST: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11504. html I recommend Packman's excellent package site, from the first link. Once you add the sources, YaST performs essentially the same apt-get (or synaptic), resolves dependencies, and doesn't break stuff when you add new packages.

I'd say SUSE 10. Here is a link to download it, especially a Live-DVD image, so they can either run away screaming, or go all the way and install it to disk (they'll need to get the other ISO's here.)

eDirectory on Linux does a network good.

Novell has all the components of a solid business, just not the vision. Just look at their homepage - does it tell you who they are or what they have planned for the future?

iManager

It has for many.

If for some mysterious reason you can't get VMWare working, the "little known fix" is to install the vmware-any-any patch. This works with SuSE, Fedora, and other distros.

because the license does not allow you to use code you wrote with the free version in the paid versions.

WRONG! Please mod parent flamebait.

You're confusing paid versions with proprietary versions. You can make money selling paid versions of Free and Open Source Software.

QT is licenced under the GPL, which is a Free and Open Source Software license. It forces software vendors to share the source code, but does not prohibit vendors from selling binaries.

Anyone (ranging from independent programmers to multibllion dollar companies) can create Free and Open Source Software built on QT and can sell the resultant software without giving a penny to Trolltech. Just look at Novell SUSE Linux, Linspire, RedHat and any other commercial distro that ships with KDE. These companies (and anyone else for that matter, including you!) can sell the binaries -- all they have to do is provide the source code to the user, so that the user can customize the software for his/her needs.

If you want to keep your source code secret and build proprietary applications that lock in users, prevent them from making modifications, restrict their rights, take away control of their computers, then naturally you need to pay royalties. In the world of spyware, DRM-infestation, and Treacherous Computing no proprietary software should be trusted.

In other words: If a company does the moral thing for the users and society, the company gets a freebie. If they're unscrupulous, then they better pay up.

This SuSE howto requires minimal computing knowledge:
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15484. html

I agree that it is still too complex for John Q. Public, but its pretty close.

Yeah you ahead, compare to slack and debian because they are the best representatives of the distros business, first time people etc. are directed to.

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:

http://www.novell.com/linux/suse/
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/
http://www.mandriva.com/
http://fedora.redhat.com/
http://www-1.ibm.com/linux/

Novell uses the term Enthusiast rather than Hobbyist: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/comparati ve.html

Yet I would not call the two terms categorical opposites or mutually exclusive. Hobbyists are generally and perhaps by definition enthusiastic about their pursuits/activities/preoccupation even if they don't get a paycheck with bennies. If they do get paid and it is called a job, so much the better for the hobbyist, but the job (e.g., working with the "Enthusiast" SUSE version) isn't degraded or given a negative connotation in the process.

The Encarta definition of enthusiast: "person deeply involved in something: somebody who is enthusiastic about something, especially a hobby" http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/ DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861608649

Really admire SUSE and have used it for several years now. I only wish Novell admired the tremendous care and hard work put in by the SUSE engineers, but if you go to the front page of http://www.novell.com/ you'd be pushed to know Novell even have SUSE. This new version and the new OpenSUSE initiative are things to shout about, one might think. Sigh. Novell are their own worst enemies.

As for Novell 'shouting out' about OpenSuSE, please keep in mind that Novell is a corporate entity doing business with other corporate entities and is much more likely to tout the products that it sells, thus generating revenue which can then support community projects like OpenSuSE. OpenSuSE is not a make or break for Novel, it is more a gesture towards the community and a thumb in the eye of RedHat/Fedora. I am more impressed with Novel's decision to continue offering a supported consumer version of SuSE rather than abandoning the consumer market like RedHat.

only wish Novell admired the tremendous care and hard work put in by the SUSE engineers, but if you go to the front page of http://www.novell.com/ you'd be pushed to know Novell even have SUSE.

Well, Let's see:
There are links to SuSE Linux, SuSE Linux Enterprise Server, OpenSuSE, and the SuSE Linux Mailing Lists.
In addition, there are two more links to Novell Linux (which is a rebranded SuSE, something they admit if you click on the link, and the big fancy graphic in the center is for Novell Linux.

Novell is all about SuSE in a big way.

Oh, I think you referred to either Open-Xchange http://www.openexchange.com/ or Openexchange http://www.novell.com/products/openexchange/

Really admire SUSE and have used it for several years now. I only wish Novell admired the tremendous care and hard work put in by the SUSE engineers, but if you go to the front page of http://www.novell.com/ you'd be pushed to know Novell even have SUSE. This new version and the new OpenSUSE initiative are things to shout about, one might think. Sigh. Novell are their own worst enemies.

Will be installing OpenSUSE and Gnome over the weekend. From the sound of it, this new SUSE is faster than previous versions which were a bit too slow for me, and they are getting behind Gnome in a way they haven't before since they always majored on KDE and Gnome was a poor relative.

These are very exciting times for Linux considering the quality of so many distros now on offer.

eclipse-gtk2-3.1-4.i586.rpm
eclipse-jdt-3.1-4.i586.rpm
eclipse-platform-3.1-4.i586.rpm
eclipse-scripts-3.1-4.i586.rpm

Eclipse is an open source community whose projects are focused on providing an extensible development platform and application frameworks for building software. Eclipse provides extensible tools and frameworks that span the software development lifecycle, including support for modeling, language development environments for Java, C/C++ and others, testing and performance, business intelligence, rich client applications and embedded development. A large, vibrant ecosystem of major technology vendors, innovative start-ups, universities and research institutions and individuals extend, complement and support the Eclipse Platform.

bitstream-vera-1.10-169.noarch.rpm

Did anyone else notice other OSS software in the list that SuSE left out of the OSS version claiming that it is NOT OSS when in fact it is?

I think that they (Novell) looked at the approach that Red Hat has used and thought that it makes sense. RHES has less frequent releases, designed to be more stable, while Fedora is updated much more often. Novell is just doing the same thing with SLES and SUSE Linux 10.0.
Compare:

SUSE Linux 10.0 Comparative Features and Benefits
Enterprise Linux or Fedora?

So if you want a more stable release, then both Red Hat and Novell want you to pay for it. If you use the free versions, you get new features more often, but sacrifice some stability. And you aren't forced to upgrade immediately. It's still more stable than some other operating systems.

What about iFolder? Looking at the spec's I think it's missing serverless/hiving (which could be provided by any of the normal p2p people), file history ... not understanding your database object comment.

Speaking of which, what about freenet? The only thing it's missing is "guaranteed availability of critical business data", eh? And I hear it might have some performance problems. ;^)

--Robert

http://wiki.novell.com/
Site is currently down.

Novell has a product called DirXML (Nsure Identity Manager) which can synchronise password from and to almost any database. They provide connector for ADS, Oracle, PeopleSoft, SAP, etc. And you can write your own... With NSure SecureLogin which can safely store password for you, I've setup some truly Single-Sign on solution. Connect a biometric or a token card reader, and you're all setup !

Novell has a product called DirXML (Nsure Identity Manager) which can synchronise password from and to almost any database. They provide connector for ADS, Oracle, PeopleSoft, SAP, etc. And you can write your own... With NSure SecureLogin which can safely store password for you, I've setup some truly Single-Sign on solution. Connect a biometric or a token card reader, and you're all setup !

I use ImageMagick's convert to generate both gif and MPG from multiple still images, but that is because my stills are programatically generated.

Animated GIFs in GIMP

We're talking in excess of $10,000 for RADIUS services that I ended up setting up for free using FreeRADIUS on preexisting hardware running Linux.

We're talking in excess of $10,000 for RADIUS services that I ended up setting up for free using FreeRADIUS on preexisting hardware running Linux.

We're talking in excess of $10,000 for RADIUS services that I ended up setting up for free using FreeRADIUS on preexisting hardware running Linux.

Open Source is NOT always the only answer, some people have to make a living.

Novell - well if you are a Novell shop, you will use NDS. You will use everything else Novell has. It is sort of like joining a secret cult.

Not true, you can use Novell's NDS (eDirectory, the LDAP server software) right on top of Linux, Unix, or Windows. The admin tools are almost all Java based or otherwise accessible so you aren't locked in there (clients and management tools for Linux, Unix and Windows). Novell can manage the rights, er permissions, er privileges for clients of any flavor (because a directory services solution is about managing the resources on the network) - and has less bloat and more security than Active Directory.

Novell is my choice hands down. It isn't the nightmare product it used to be. Quite flexable, scalable and for all intents and purposes "open". This product actually follows standards! In my experience it also prices cheaper for clients than Active Directory, although you never know because I'm sure it has changed.

The person who asked this question initially said that the only other option to Active Directory was A cobbled-together solution based as much as possible on OSS (as no direct equivalent exists)

This simply isn't true. There is eDirectory and it's better! (PDF) Wake up people! It's 2005 and there is a better option out there and to top it all off they are a Linux company too.

Whenever you say Directory Services, you need to throw eDirectory in the ring. Lucky for you, you can get groupware from the same vendor. And it can all run on Enterprise Linux.

Oh ya, it comes with a pretty nice desktop offering, too. It includes a decent office suite, excellent web browser, the works. But it will integrate resources on Windows, Linux, Mac, whatever.

And during the transition, it can tie into LDAP, Kerberos, or whatever exists in the three merging disparate offices.

For a small expense, you can even wrap it in a bow.

Whenever you say Directory Services, you need to throw eDirectory in the ring. Lucky for you, you can get groupware from the same vendor. And it can all run on Enterprise Linux.

Oh ya, it comes with a pretty nice desktop offering, too. It includes a decent office suite, excellent web browser, the works. But it will integrate resources on Windows, Linux, Mac, whatever.

And during the transition, it can tie into LDAP, Kerberos, or whatever exists in the three merging disparate offices.

For a small expense, you can even wrap it in a bow.

Whenever you say Directory Services, you need to throw eDirectory in the ring. Lucky for you, you can get groupware from the same vendor. And it can all run on Enterprise Linux.

Oh ya, it comes with a pretty nice desktop offering, too. It includes a decent office suite, excellent web browser, the works. But it will integrate resources on Windows, Linux, Mac, whatever.

And during the transition, it can tie into LDAP, Kerberos, or whatever exists in the three merging disparate offices.

For a small expense, you can even wrap it in a bow.

Whenever you say Directory Services, you need to throw eDirectory in the ring. Lucky for you, you can get groupware from the same vendor. And it can all run on Enterprise Linux.

Oh ya, it comes with a pretty nice desktop offering, too. It includes a decent office suite, excellent web browser, the works. But it will integrate resources on Windows, Linux, Mac, whatever.

And during the transition, it can tie into LDAP, Kerberos, or whatever exists in the three merging disparate offices.

For a small expense, you can even wrap it in a bow.

Look at using Novell NetMail with Novell eDirectory.

It's fast, cost effective, standards based, scalable - and it runs on Linux, Windows, Solaris - or even NetWare.

For 100 users it will be just great.

If you want open source - and depending on your acceptance of 'newness and risk' - look at Hula - again based on the NetMail codebase.

novell will do everything you want... Client OS Independent... they're getting more and more cross-platform every day.

They produce Windows / Linux / Mac OS X / HTML clients for almost all of their products and they meet all of your requirements.

If you have under 100 employees you can use Novell Small Business Suite in which the licenses are about 1/2 price. Once you cross 100 users you must upgrade your licenses... You also are allowed 2 server licenses with the small business suite.

Novell is really flexible and much cheaper than Microsoft. The security and stability is also there... although their Netware product since 4.11 has left much to be desired, but that's ok... they've got Linux (and have been for some time.) Their servers run Tomcat(web-java), Apache2, Perl, PHP, MySQL and all kinds of goodies right out of the box (they're install options, many are required.)

Anyway, very slick and VERY excellent and low-cost/maintenance for small business. Plus you're supporting open source (directly and indirectly) :)

http://www.novell.com/products/openenterpriseserve r/index.html?sourceidint=hp_products_oes

Ryan

And is still available as a free (Beta) download here.

Don't know how long that will last and I image its not part of the OSS suite.

I haven't used it but would like to do some testing with it at work. For more general directory type support (domain controller, etc) I'd look at Suse LINUX Enterprise Server with their Novell Open Enterprise (sorry thats a PDF). It uses Samba and LDAP, but its the closest thing to a usable AD "killer" I've seen so far.