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Re:Listen to the interview
Or, alternatively, listen to Terry Gross interview Bill O'Reilly. Boy is that guy insecure.
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Link to Audio.
The Link is here. Noteably it is on the show Fresh Air with Terry Gross who has recently interviewed Al Franken and a Bill O'Reilly about their Hate/Hate relationship and the lawsuit itself. As a side note O'Reilly walked out of the interview.
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Link to Audio.
The Link is here. Noteably it is on the show Fresh Air with Terry Gross who has recently interviewed Al Franken and a Bill O'Reilly about their Hate/Hate relationship and the lawsuit itself. As a side note O'Reilly walked out of the interview.
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Link to Audio.
The Link is here. Noteably it is on the show Fresh Air with Terry Gross who has recently interviewed Al Franken and a Bill O'Reilly about their Hate/Hate relationship and the lawsuit itself. As a side note O'Reilly walked out of the interview.
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Re: Spelling error, but Faux News truly misleads
Thus we behold the latest right-wing meme. This attempted rebuttal of this poll has shown up throughout the media, including a letter to the editor in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, and posited by Tony Blankeley of The Washington Times this morning on NPR's The Diane Rehm show. Using the same example of (paraphrased) "Bush didn't personally claim an imminent threat from WMDs, though most liberals think he did."
There's apparently no evidence that GWB made that exact claim, so believing that he did gives you a "misperception." But there was plenty of (mis)information circling around, including the famous British memo about Iraq being able to deploy WMD's 45 minutes after Saddam might order it. It's certainly possible that people might believe those words came from Bush himself, rather than advisors or pundits, which is technically mistaken. But the essential perception remains accurate: The US and UK administrations, led by Bush and Blair, used the idea of WMD's being used sometime in the near fute as a justification for the war.
Compare that to the misperceptions that were polled.
(1) Evidence found for link between Iraq and Al Qaeda
(2) Evidence found of WMDs in Iraq
(3) Positive world opinion about Iraq war
Either there was a link betwen Al Qaeda and Iraq, or not. WMD's were found, or not. The world has a positive opinion of the Iraq war, or not. No selective parsing of who said what when.
To use a favorite right-wing term, this type of painful parsing (like the meaning of "slog") to make words mean what you want them to mean, seems positively "Clintonian." -
Re:Whom shall we trust?My guess is that NPR has been looking to take a piece out of Fox news ever since they got understandably bitchslapped for a biased interview with Fox heavyweight Bill O'Reilly.
Matt Groenig may have mentioned it as humourous fiction in an interview but that doesn't mean his words can't be shouted from the rooftops as a serious remark... (as in the scene from "My Cousin Vinny" where Bill Gambini (Ralph Macchio), in a jailcell hears the charges against him and repeats dumfoundedly, "I shot him?" which becomes the "I shot him." confessional in the courtroom.)
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Re:Whom shall we trust?My guess is that NPR has been looking to take a piece out of Fox news ever since they got understandably bitchslapped for a biased interview with Fox heavyweight Bill O'Reilly.
Matt Groenig may have mentioned it as humourous fiction in an interview but that doesn't mean his words can't be shouted from the rooftops as a serious remark... (as in the scene from "My Cousin Vinny" where Bill Gambini (Ralph Macchio), in a jailcell hears the charges against him and repeats dumfoundedly, "I shot him?" which becomes the "I shot him." confessional in the courtroom.)
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NPR Interview
I first heard about this book when the author was interviewed on NPR. It was just like a normal interview with callers and everything, but the callers were actors pretending to be slime molds, or wasps, or birds or whatever asking her for advice. Really hilarious.
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Re:Suing themselves
It was last Thursday on Fresh Air.
And don't forget to tune in to the show where the champion of fair and balanced news, Bill O'Reilly, stormed out of his interview because he felt that Terry Gross was doing a "hatchet-job" on him .
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Re:Suing themselves
It was last Thursday on Fresh Air.
And don't forget to tune in to the show where the champion of fair and balanced news, Bill O'Reilly, stormed out of his interview because he felt that Terry Gross was doing a "hatchet-job" on him .
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Re:Holy old news Batman!
And the actual interview aired over a week ago on the 23rd. See here.
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Listen to the interview
Fresh Air
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Re:Translated for the America-Impaired
"They're different formats, so the comparison is invalid."
Beyond the "one involves a CRT, the other doesn't," how exactly are the formats different? They're still both spoon-fed push media. They both have anchors in the studio as well as "field reporters" out there somewhere. Where are you drawing the line?
"Not only that, but the complaint isn't that NPR's "editorials" are leftish, it's that their news is."
Here's today's ATC. Which bits are leftist? How would a centrist have done it differently?
"Everyone does that. I'm no fan of O'Reilly, but he reads reader letters"
Please forgive me for not being familiar with his show (lately, if it's not on Cartoon Network, I don't watch it). When he reads his letters, does he try to respond to them over the air? Thank writers for positive letters? Try to offer a counterpoint or two to his detractors? Or does he just read the letters and leave it at that, letting the viewer/listener come to their own conclusion?
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Re:String Theory
I heard Greene on NPR's Science Friday He says that some recent work on the theory predicts some effects which may be testable in a few years by the newest generation of "atom smashers" currently under construction at CERN and elsewhere.
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Radio != RIAAI used to only listen to the local public radio station for the news during the morning and evening commutes, being that I never was a big fan of classical music. But it's beginning to grow on me even as a lunchtime station since
- they don't play music I've already heard fifteen times today
- they never broadcast from a used car dealership
I suppose I might eventually move into satellite radio, just so long as it's Sirius; I refuse to let one red cent of mine go towards propogating Clear Channel programming.
If the RIAA was all there was to radio, then I could see (and wouldn't mind seeing) radio dying. Thankfully it isn't, and I'd like to think that the medium is slowly but surely evolving away from RIAA-provided/sponsored content and towards something better. Although it is pleasantly ironic that public radio seems to be offering a better alternative in a capitalistic market. :) -
Hardly.
NPR's funding breakdown. An excerpt:
The only direct government funding NPR receives is through competitive grants from government agencies for specific projects. Such grants are awarded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the National Science Foundation, and the National Endowments for the Arts and the Humanities, and typically represent only 2% of total revenues. -
Re:What?
AntiPasto : Props to: The World Cafe, This American Life, Fresh Air, Morning Edition, and All Things Considered.
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NPR, blackouts, conservative shillsHey, I'm one of the millions that listen to NPR during the day, mostly to and from work.
In case you weren't affected by the GREAT FEARSOME BLACKOUT OF 2003 , those of us who were crowded around radios to get news.
Don't forget the 20 million so-called "dittoheads" that hang on Rush's every word every day. Republican shill talk radio has never been so popular (depending on where you read your stats).
There's big money in radio and the guy who owns it is raking it in.
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Re:Can you say, "Pump and Dump"?
Plus, you have to remember that there's a good chance any random judge will have SCO or one of it's alliances somewhere in their investment portfolio.
Which is why judges have to fill out forms stating which companies they own stocks in every year (and made public). It's called a conflict of interest, and is grounds to have a judge removed from a case by either party to the suite.
This is also why there are 'blind trusts' which are in effect a black box- neither party (the judge and the investment company) knows who the other person is, thus limiting any chance of corruption; real or imagined.
I'd suggest that you listen to NPR's Nina Totenberg's archives so you have some idea on how the courts work. -
Re:Can you say, "Pump and Dump"?
Plus, you have to remember that there's a good chance any random judge will have SCO or one of it's alliances somewhere in their investment portfolio.
Which is why judges have to fill out forms stating which companies they own stocks in every year (and made public). It's called a conflict of interest, and is grounds to have a judge removed from a case by either party to the suite.
This is also why there are 'blind trusts' which are in effect a black box- neither party (the judge and the investment company) knows who the other person is, thus limiting any chance of corruption; real or imagined.
I'd suggest that you listen to NPR's Nina Totenberg's archives so you have some idea on how the courts work. -
Ho hum
This needs to be said, and as a bonus it is on topic.
I recently made the mistake of visiting the European continent. Why was it a mistake? I'm certain that all the American trolls are already forming 'jokes' about how Euro women don't shave their armpits, that Euro's have yet to discover underarm deodorant, that they are the champions of soccer hooliganary, etc...
We all know that this is just more American /. dreck.
My concern is the rampant anti-Pakistani sentiment that pervades Europe. I recently visited Oslo, and I have to admit that I was disgusted. They invite Pakistani immigrants in, yet they are so quick to blame ALL crime in Norway on the 'Pakis' (Pakis is to Pakistani as NIGGER is to African American.) 'Pakis' are denied both educational and employment opportunities, all with the support of the average Norwegian. This condition exists despite the fact that the Norway encouraged Pakistanis to immigrate to Norway. It would seem that there is a wide gap between the tolerant facade put up by Norwegians and their actually feelings toward Muslims.
What is more disturbing, however, is that this attitude is not local to Norway. In fact, like anti-Semitism, it is commonplace in Europe. For all their criticism of the United States and our 'racist, anti-Muslim' foreign policy, they seem to suffer from the same bigotry. Many similar stories have been documented at FoxNews, which I think we can all agree is the best source for the actual NEWS, not the slanted reported that we've come to expect from the military-industrial-media complex that constitutes the Fifth Column of the European continent.
This post is not a cheap shot at our Christian European brethren - rather, it is an appeal to the European continent to adopt the more elightened view of the New World.
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Hardware makers
This needs to be said, and as a bonus it is on topic.
I recently made the mistake of visiting the European continent. Why was it a mistake? I'm certain that all the American trolls are already forming 'jokes' about how Euro women don't shave their armpits, that Euro's have yet to discover underarm deodorant, that they are the champions of soccer hooliganary, etc...
We all know that this is just more American /. dreck.
My concern is the rampant anti-Pakistani sentiment that pervades Europe. I recently visited Oslo, and I have to admit that I was disgusted. They invite Pakistani immigrants in, yet they are so quick to blame ALL crime in Norway on the 'Pakis' (Pakis is to Pakistani as NIGGER is to African American.) 'Pakis' are denied both educational and employment opportunities, all with the support of the average Norwegian. This condition exists despite the fact that the Norway encouraged Pakistanis to immigrate to Norway. It would seem that there is a wide gap between the tolerant facade put up by Norwegians and their actually feelings toward Muslims.
What is more disturbing, however, is that this attitude is not local to Norway. In fact, like anti-Semitism, it is commonplace in Europe. For all their criticism of the United States and our 'racist, anti-Muslim' foreign policy, they seem to suffer from the same bigotry. Many similar stories have been documented at FoxNews, which I think we can all agree is the best source for the actual NEWS, not the slanted reported that we've come to expect from the military-industrial-media complex that constitutes the Fifth Column of the European continent.
This post is not a cheap shot at our Christian European brethren - rather, it is an appeal to the European continent to adopt the more elightened view of the New World.
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Elliot Smith dead at 34
NPR has the story. He was found dead in his apartment of a self inflicted stab wound to the chest. He's best remembered for his Oscar nomination for the song "Miss Misery" featured in the film Goodwill Hunting. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon."
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Hey, anonymous moronHere's some kindergarten economics for you:
When you spend more than you take in, and rack up more than 7 times more debt than you have assets, and are still operating at a loss, that's a bad thing.
Check out David Walker's address to the National Press Club when it is available. I'm pretty sure he's had a few more economics classes than you have, and apparently a buttload more experience. But I'm sure you'll say that the Comptroller General of the United States know about economics, right?
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Re:Lot's of sales... No profit...
Perhaps this interview was where you heard the 80/20 figure.
Apple has sold 14 million tracks, one million of which were sold in the past three days. -
Re:All Things Considered Science Friday
You mean Talk Of The Nation's Science Friday with Ira Flatow?
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All Things Considered Science Friday
NPR's All Things Considered dedicates their entire show on fridays to exactly this sort of programming. Granted its only one day a week, but honestly, I don't think I would care to hear more than that. I do like that fact that you can call in and contribute the conversation, but I guess talk radio isn't for everybody.
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All Things Considered Science Friday
NPR's All Things Considered dedicates their entire show on fridays to exactly this sort of programming. Granted its only one day a week, but honestly, I don't think I would care to hear more than that. I do like that fact that you can call in and contribute the conversation, but I guess talk radio isn't for everybody.
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Re:Greg Dyke
I bet you've never heard of Bob Edwards
You mean this Bob Edwards.
Besides, I didn't say that Greg Dyke was a famous UK commentator. I said that he "heads up" the BBC. He is the director general (DG). In charge. The bloke who makes decisions.
Fucking AC eurotrash weasel
you're an ass
you stuck up chump
you AC prick
Looks like someone forgot to take their happy pills today!
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Re:Don Coscarelli - Phantasm
A couple weeks back, Terry Gross interviewed Coscarelli on Fresh Air. Lotta stuff about Bubba Hotep, and a lot of fascinating stuff about the technical aspects of making Phantasm on a very low budget. There's a segment on the sound effects of the skull driller. I'm not advocating any illegal copyright infringement, but that sound effect would make an excellent component of an answering machine message.
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EMP in Seattle is one such "Museam Tour"...The article (Slashdotted) states:
"Presented on a PDA (personal digital assistant), the Concert Companion's key feature is the "loser's guide to the music" that updates you with information about what you're peeing on, in real time. As the music plays, a computer hidden in a corner of the hall uses wireless technology to transmit signals to your T&A..."
The EMP in Seattle uses this mechanism and it works rather well.
Considered by many to be an effective satirisation of those who post comments consisting of a linked article's text (invariably reputedly in case of the Slashdot effect) for positive moderation, these are arguably some of the most creative and entertaining found on Slashdot.
These trolls consist of the linked article's text, copied into a comment, usually accompanied by a subject line indicating that the site has been slashdotted. One or more words, phrases, or paragraphs are covertly inserted or modified to form a subversive or offensive message not present in the original article.
These can be in the form of film or book spoilers, words changed to produce sexual innuendoes, amongst other things. Often moderators will 'mod-up' an article or post based on its title and the overall appearance of the text without reading it - the aim of the troll is to make a comment which contains a subtle modification to be modded up as +5 Informative or +5 Insightful. -
Re:nonsensical
I don't know how much of that is true. I'm not a patent lawyer, but I listened to an episode of Science Friday (listen to past episodes in RealAudio or Windows Media Player for free) where they had an hour-long segment on inventions and patents. They said that you have to go get patents in other countries as well.
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Re:I heard Solar was going to get cheaper in 1976Power stations on the moon makes me want to vomit.
I'm kind of bored with the moon. Same exact thing for decades. At least it waxes and wanes and comes up at a different time each night. I think they should use lasers and to turn it into a big billboard.
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Re:Does Dean need Slashdot?Not to sound too much like a shill (I'm just an unpaid fan, honest), but if you want to contribute to Dean's campaign, today is an excellent day to do it, because today is the last day of the 3rd fiscal quarter for FEC filing purposes. That means that contributions received today will be reported in the 3rd quarter, and (like it or not) a campaign's viability is usually measured by the press in terms of how much funding the campaign is receiving. So a contribution to Dean today will be more useful in terms of reinforcing Dean's image as a serious candidate than a contribution tomorrow will be (although I'm sure he'll welcome a contribution tomorrow too
;^))
Also, if you want to hear more from and about Howard Dean, be sure to check out his interview on NPR's Talk of the Nation yesterday. His performance in this interview is a great example of why people are so excited about his candidacy. -
Re:Why so low?
Well, 64kbps is a good rate for streaming and low-capacity situations (like flash-based mp3 players). If ogg can manage to become more popular in hardware, it would make an excellent alternative to standard mp3 encoding.
That said, I've fallen down the quality slope - with hard drives so large now I've decided just to encode all my music with FLAC and have absolutely no quality loss (lossless compression; flac is to ogg as PNG is to JIF). Granted, I don't know if I can tell the difference between ~256kbps ogg (what I used to use) and what ends up being 900+kbps flac, but it's nice to know I can generate a practically perfect audio CD if I ever lose the originals.
WIth a decent pair ($30 and up) of headphones or a good system, some songs sound tremendously better going from 128 -> 192, and even 192 -> 256. Check out The Cranberries' "Time is Ticking Out" as a good example - the beeping at the beginning of the song is lost at 128 kbps mp3, it's poor at 192 kbps mp3, but the song sounds great compared to the wav at ~256kbps ogg (no, I didn't try 256 kbps mp3 for comparison).
Now, if NPR would start streaming programs in ogg, I could finally be rid of real player at work. -
Re:Great articles...
No. It's the power of propaganda and the majority's voracity for eating it up.
News has been dead for quite some time. It's now "news for ratings" which has far less to do with informing the masses and far more to do with sensationalizing the "juicy" tidbits, which of course keeps our attention longer, adds ratings, and makes corporate media richer. You see, their sole agenda is to make more money. If the board sees a way to make more money, they proceed in doing so. This is a no-brainer. The day of the "news" being a form of public watchdog died years ago. This is just one of the reasons many here find these untold stories to be liberal biased.
The "brain-dead sheep" don't realize their predicament. If they did, they wouldn't be brain dead. They actually "think" they know all they need to know, because if it's important, CNN or Fox will tell me about it which is largely untrue of course. These days, it takes quite a bit of research to get to the meat of the truly important news items, many of which never see an airwave. My most time consuming extra curricular activity is research into many many things, and I will tell you, some of the greatest stories are never told, either due to it's inability to make keep "joe sixpack's" attention (ratings), or fear of being branded unpatriotic. These conclusions are derived from applying critical thinking while following references till no end at times. Some may say it's conspiracy, but I say it has much simpler than that. It has much more to do with propaganda being forced down our throats by those in power, followed by a sensationalizing news media for profit. Put the two together and you will find many succumbing to this "brain-dead sheep" mentality. They trust these sources, and therefore feel they are being told all they need to know in order to form a correct world view, which couldn't be more wrong or dangerous in my opinion.
I get up, go to work, come home, feed the dog, eat dinner with the family, watch Fox, listen for the latest "thing" to fear, conclude that giving agencies more power to combat the origin of that fear is good (fear breeds consent, and they love it) go to bed, wake up, go to work, etc...
Many see the stories in this list as liberal. Of course they do. You see, many conservatives, and many others in fact, see dissent as a damaging force, one that shouldn't be presented. It's hard to get Fox or even CNN to do stories that lambastes our own government and it's leaders. The next day they are labeled "unpatriotic" and they will see a loss in PROFIT in the way of advertisers pulling ads (corporate media's true rulers). A more hypocritical sentiment I couldn't come up with (dissent is NEEDED in a true working democracy), but it's true. These facts are quite pronounced and are very easy to see once you do the research and see how it's presented in the major corporate owned media. At times it's even laughable. All I can think is "my god, people are buying this crap by the bucket load", and it scares me at times.
To get your feet wet, listen to NPR, browse Drudge, read A People's History of the United States : 1492-Present and Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media and then we'll talk. We will then read a few conservative books and a dozen history books and you will start to see your "world view" become a little more informed if nothing else. The point being that unless you are determined to put in the work, you most likely do not have a full understanding of all that is going on in the world, which would include power structures and the enourmous propaganda machine being used to control the masses, quite easily I might add..
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Re:The RIAA sucks
Listen to more NPR and watch less FOX/CNN/ETC. NPR has had balanced coverage and entire shows dedicated to this very subject over the last four years.
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UnbelievableWell, that's it. Yesterday on All Things Considered on NPR they were talking with an industry analyst who said that until recently most people didn't have any impression of the recording industry, good or bad. People were starting to acquire a negative opinion of the industry; the analyst went further and said they risked alienating not just their customers but the public as well.
So they decide to sue a 12 year old girl. Brilliant PR move. Might as well use orphans for firewood.
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UnbelievableWell, that's it. Yesterday on All Things Considered on NPR they were talking with an industry analyst who said that until recently most people didn't have any impression of the recording industry, good or bad. People were starting to acquire a negative opinion of the industry; the analyst went further and said they risked alienating not just their customers but the public as well.
So they decide to sue a 12 year old girl. Brilliant PR move. Might as well use orphans for firewood.
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Re:pollution ?
London's 'smog' is nothing compared to that of many major cities
Didn't London pretty much invent the killer fog?
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GE/NBC already affecting Vivendi's choices
You probably can't convince me that the move by Universal -- a unit of hard-luck French water utility Vivendi -- doesn't have anything to do with Universal's pending aquisition by GE's NBC unit.
I figure it's one of two things:
* Vivendi is looking to spoil the deal with a profit-killing "poison pill". This would be the strategy of former Vivendi chairman Jean-Marie Messier -- but it's also part of why he's the former chairman.
* GE has already given Universal marching orders -- this was planned months ago. According to this morning's NPR report, Vivendi has been shopping for a buyer for its entertainment units for months, but all previous deals have fallen through. They're likely to do whatever GE says at this point (unless we're back to the first option).
General Electric isn't in the business of filing baseless lawsuits -- they're in the business of making money. Maybe they'll be the ones to blow the lid off the CD price scam once and for all. -
Re:What if...
You've just paid for the song. Unless you turn your radio off every time a commercial comes on, at which point you're a "pirate", listening to something you didn't pay for.
Actually you're wrong, which is a common mistake with this subject. There is no real evidence that people are listening to the radio on a particular station at a particular time, which is how the advertising is sold. Sure there are ratings, polls and station events, but radio is a one-way medium and the numbers generated by these measurements are subjective at best and completely baseless at worst. They are never truly accurate. There is no way to track who is listening or how many of them there are.If you hear a commercial and go buy the product, THEN you are paying for the advertisement. Otherwise you are just leeching off of an advertiser supported medium. The idea behind the advertising is not so we can listen to ads, it is a way to prompt us to lay down our cash where the ad tells us to..
The modern radio business has been built on decades of these kinds of assumptions, incomplete data and inuendos when it comes to measuring populartity and advertising penetration. This is why some advertisers will say something like "and mention you heard it on K-RIAA" so they can try to verify the stations projections of how many potential customers are listening and correlate them to some real life metric.
Incidentally, television advertising is better off than this because of cable and satellite. They can actually tell what you are watching and even if you flipped the channel when the commercials came on in real time (yes, this does happen). This is one of the reasons that there is an industry push for satellite radio to become a standard while there is a fight against ad-free satellite radio.
I personally would rather just pay for my radio directly and have some actual input as to the content than encourage the ad sales shell game.
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Re:Meanwhile, in the good old USA . . .
The thing is, even though it is partially taxpayer funded, NPR still owns its content (I'm assuming that there isn't a clause in the funding that causes all content to be made public. I severly doubt this is the case). Actually, according to their page, they are actually a private organization. If they want DRM, why shouldn't they be allowed to use it to restrict people from saving and redistributing content? I'm not a DRM fan, but can certainly see how a content producer might be a fan of DRM, and would want it if they are going to put up all of their content online.
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Re:Meanwhile, in the good old USA . . .While I don't particularly like the use of proprietary streaming formats, I do recognise that they're using what's likely to reach a majority of their audience. Ideally, they could use MP3's, but I suspect that you're probably talking more along the lines of Ogg, which, let's be honest, doesn't even appear on the radar for these guys (nor most of their audience).
So, yeah, you can write letters to them to make your displeasure known, and to try to convince them to use a more free-software-friendly format. But to characterise the use of RM/WM as a misuse of taxpayer money is just wrong. The fact is that NPR is not directly government funded, nor has it been for years. From the 2000 NPR annual report:
NPR receives no direct general operating support from any national or local government source. NPR does compete along with other producers for specific project grants from federally funded entities such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the National Science Foundation and the National Endowments for the Arts and the Humanities.
(source - NPR Annual Report - page 21. Yes, it's a pdf, STFU). The report goes on to put the amount of money coming from those organizations at less than 2% of NPR's revenues.
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Meanwhile, in the good old USA . . .. . . taxpayer and contributor supported NPR only makes audio available in proprietary, streaming formats. Perhaps if they want to lock up their content, they should stop taking taxpayer money and donations, hmm?
P.S.: Those things that sound like commercials in the NPR broadcast can't be commercials, because public radio doesn't have commercials by definition. They must be "sponsorship acknowledgements."
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Some linkage
1st Pasture beef & Lamb are actually cheaper than feedlot beef & lamb. The fact is without huge subsidies over 95% of America's feedlot industry would be unsustainable.
You see feedlot meat has huge costs - corn has to be grown & rotated apon thousands apon thousands of acres of prime agricultural land. Massive ammounts or petroleum based fertilisers are needed, Huge amounts of expensive anti-biotics & hormones are need as the cattle have to cope with living waist high in shit. Ontop of which there's the huge enviromental cleanup costs associated with clearing all that shit & the associated contamination. The abbatoir costs are much higher too, as extreme practices are needed due to the fact the cattle have spent most of their lives waist high in shit & it's embedded into every pore of their skins.
Hence in Oz, where feedlot subsidies don't exist, feedlots only exist for the gourmet & Jap export marbled meet trade, the end supermarket cost is just to high for supermarkets
Cattle can simply graze on huge cattlestations consisting of marginal open woodland & former unsustainable dustbowl cropping land that been semi re-wooded by nature over a couple of decades, They can also drink rank bore water brought up automatically by windmills. Many arn't even likely to ever see humans till they've hearded up by choppers, motor bikes & dogs at slaughter time.
Sheep can graze quite sustainably on arid land Salt Bush as long as one doesn't overstock. They to can also drink rank bore water brought up automatically by windmills.
Here's some linkage on a Journo who actually bought a steer & ran it through the feedlot system, the reality of that steer's life's absolutelly revolting & totally unviable economically. They do literally have to pump the steer full of anti-biotics (passed prohibition levels for the EU) so it can cope with living knee high in shit.
NYTimes blurb
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Some linkage
1st Pasture beef & Lamb are actually cheaper than feedlot beef & lamb. The fact is without huge subsidies over 95% of America's feedlot industry would be unsustainable.
You see feedlot meat has huge costs - corn has to be grown & rotated apon thousands apon thousands of acres of prime agricultural land. Massive ammounts or petroleum based fertilisers are needed, Huge amounts of expensive anti-biotics & hormones are need as the cattle have to cope with living waist high in shit. Ontop of which there's the huge enviromental cleanup costs associated with clearing all that shit & the associated contamination. The abbatoir costs are much higher too, as extreme practices are needed due to the fact the cattle have spent most of their lives waist high in shit & it's embedded into every pore of their skins.
Hence in Oz, where feedlot subsidies don't exist, feedlots only exist for the gourmet & Jap export marbled meet trade, the end supermarket cost is just to high for supermarkets
Cattle can simply graze on huge cattlestations consisting of marginal open woodland & former unsustainable dustbowl cropping land that been semi re-wooded by nature over a couple of decades, They can also drink rank bore water brought up automatically by windmills. Many arn't even likely to ever see humans till they've hearded up by choppers, motor bikes & dogs at slaughter time.
Sheep can graze quite sustainably on arid land Salt Bush as long as one doesn't overstock. They to can also drink rank bore water brought up automatically by windmills.
Here's some linkage on a Journo who actually bought a steer & ran it through the feedlot system, the reality of that steers life's absolutelly revolting & totally unviable economically
NYTimes blurb
NPR Real audio piece -
Re:questions about the campaign.
Here's that link fixed up
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Re:Heehee
You're a dipshit spreading FUD.
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Other Types of Bombs
Reducing collateral damage is becoming more and more important as military planners realize that the war is not over once you capture the territory.
You want to win over a people's hearts and minds by changing the regime but not levelling their cities a la carpet bombing Dresden in WWII. Killing citizens does not shorten a war and the London Blitz and Berlin showed that enemy soldiers will fight harder if they know their families are being killed too.
There are lots of different types of bombs that try to reduce collateral damage. The most infamous was the Neutron bomb that limited a nuclear bomb's blast and heat damage to a few hundred yards but killed people through the use of radiation.
The electric power distribution munition(ph), can knock out a whole power grid. This bomb scatters spools of carbon strands over a target. In Vietnam the US developed Hyper baric Fuel Air bombs that used a high pressure wave to kill people in tunnels or create helicopter landing pads in the jungle. The latest improved version is the thermo baric bomb that uses extremely high temperatures to create a blast wave and also suck the oxygen out of enclosed spaces.
War is not glorious but it is necessary from time to time and if you can defeat the enemy without killing non-combatants, I am all for it.