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You are doing it wrong; permanently failing on recoverable EINTR and EAGAIN errors. See here for how to do it right.

The dillo browser is getting pretty decent these days.
But then again I mostly use lynx on OpenBSD of course....

Firefox sucks. All that money they're making from
their embedded search engines should
be going to the user of the browser not to themselves.

OpenBSD PF or hoststated seem like the simplest solutions to me.

OpenBSD PF or hoststated seem like the simplest solutions to me.

We use OpenBSD with CARP and pfsync and relayd(8). It works a treat load balancing our web and jabber servers. I highly recommend it and the documentation that comes with OpenBSD is second to none. It's also an extremely secure OS for firewalls and routers.

We use OpenBSD with CARP and pfsync and relayd(8). It works a treat load balancing our web and jabber servers. I highly recommend it and the documentation that comes with OpenBSD is second to none. It's also an extremely secure OS for firewalls and routers.

We use OpenBSD with CARP and pfsync and relayd(8). It works a treat load balancing our web and jabber servers. I highly recommend it and the documentation that comes with OpenBSD is second to none. It's also an extremely secure OS for firewalls and routers.

Because i am familiar with the install process, its oh so small footprint, the excellent FAQs and manual pages; I have OpenBSD installed on my eeepc 901 netbook. It originally came with Xandros which I used for a while before installing Ubuntu on the extra 16gb disk. I couldn't get the wireless card to work with Ubuntu and I wasn't particularly pleased with the amount of screen real-estate used up by gnome et el. And even after upgrading the memory to 2gig I still found the time it took to launch apps a tad too slow. So early this year I installed my preferred Unix OS, OpenBSD on the 4gig disk and use the 16gig disk for /home. I find OpenBSD and xfce4 are perfect for this little netbook. Wifi works with the ral(4) driver and i get the usual 8hours battery life.

Here is my dmesg(8) and sysctl(8).

OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #1671: Wed Feb 4 01:28:11 MST 2009
todd@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem = 2138271744 (2039MB)
avail mem = 2059341824 (1963MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/03/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0710 (30 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "1603" date 10/03/2008
bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 901
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) P0P1(S4) P0P4(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) P0P9(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 2
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0P4)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P6)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P7)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P8)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P9)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P5)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 90 degC
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "901" serial type LION oem "ASUS"
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpiasus0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn2 at acpi0: PWRB
acpivideo at acpi0 not configured
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xec00!
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x060f0c2206000c22
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1600 MHz (1244 mV): speeds: 1600, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Host" rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Video" rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)
drm0 at inteldrm0
"Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)

Because i am familiar with the install process, its oh so small footprint, the excellent FAQs and manual pages; I have OpenBSD installed on my eeepc 901 netbook. It originally came with Xandros which I used for a while before installing Ubuntu on the extra 16gb disk. I couldn't get the wireless card to work with Ubuntu and I wasn't particularly pleased with the amount of screen real-estate used up by gnome et el. And even after upgrading the memory to 2gig I still found the time it took to launch apps a tad too slow. So early this year I installed my preferred Unix OS, OpenBSD on the 4gig disk and use the 16gig disk for /home. I find OpenBSD and xfce4 are perfect for this little netbook. Wifi works with the ral(4) driver and i get the usual 8hours battery life.

Here is my dmesg(8) and sysctl(8).

OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #1671: Wed Feb 4 01:28:11 MST 2009
todd@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem = 2138271744 (2039MB)
avail mem = 2059341824 (1963MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/03/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0710 (30 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "1603" date 10/03/2008
bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 901
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) P0P1(S4) P0P4(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) P0P9(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 2
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0P4)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P6)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P7)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P8)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P9)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P5)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 90 degC
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "901" serial type LION oem "ASUS"
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpiasus0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn2 at acpi0: PWRB
acpivideo at acpi0 not configured
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xec00!
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x060f0c2206000c22
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1600 MHz (1244 mV): speeds: 1600, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Host" rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Video" rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)
drm0 at inteldrm0
"Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)

Because i am familiar with the install process, its oh so small footprint, the excellent FAQs and manual pages; I have OpenBSD installed on my eeepc 901 netbook. It originally came with Xandros which I used for a while before installing Ubuntu on the extra 16gb disk. I couldn't get the wireless card to work with Ubuntu and I wasn't particularly pleased with the amount of screen real-estate used up by gnome et el. And even after upgrading the memory to 2gig I still found the time it took to launch apps a tad too slow. So early this year I installed my preferred Unix OS, OpenBSD on the 4gig disk and use the 16gig disk for /home. I find OpenBSD and xfce4 are perfect for this little netbook. Wifi works with the ral(4) driver and i get the usual 8hours battery life.

Here is my dmesg(8) and sysctl(8).

OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #1671: Wed Feb 4 01:28:11 MST 2009
todd@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem = 2138271744 (2039MB)
avail mem = 2059341824 (1963MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/03/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0710 (30 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "1603" date 10/03/2008
bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 901
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) P0P1(S4) P0P4(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) P0P9(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 2
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0P4)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P6)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P7)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P8)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P9)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P5)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 90 degC
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "901" serial type LION oem "ASUS"
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpiasus0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn2 at acpi0: PWRB
acpivideo at acpi0 not configured
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xec00!
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x060f0c2206000c22
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1600 MHz (1244 mV): speeds: 1600, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Host" rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Video" rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)
drm0 at inteldrm0
"Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)

Because i am familiar with the install process, its oh so small footprint, the excellent FAQs and manual pages; I have OpenBSD installed on my eeepc 901 netbook. It originally came with Xandros which I used for a while before installing Ubuntu on the extra 16gb disk. I couldn't get the wireless card to work with Ubuntu and I wasn't particularly pleased with the amount of screen real-estate used up by gnome et el. And even after upgrading the memory to 2gig I still found the time it took to launch apps a tad too slow. So early this year I installed my preferred Unix OS, OpenBSD on the 4gig disk and use the 16gig disk for /home. I find OpenBSD and xfce4 are perfect for this little netbook. Wifi works with the ral(4) driver and i get the usual 8hours battery life.

Here is my dmesg(8) and sysctl(8).

OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #1671: Wed Feb 4 01:28:11 MST 2009
todd@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem = 2138271744 (2039MB)
avail mem = 2059341824 (1963MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/03/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0710 (30 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "1603" date 10/03/2008
bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 901
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) P0P1(S4) P0P4(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) P0P9(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 2
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0P4)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P6)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P7)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P8)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P9)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P5)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 90 degC
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "901" serial type LION oem "ASUS"
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpiasus0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn2 at acpi0: PWRB
acpivideo at acpi0 not configured
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xec00!
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x060f0c2206000c22
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1600 MHz (1244 mV): speeds: 1600, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Host" rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Video" rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)
drm0 at inteldrm0
"Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)

Because i am familiar with the install process, its oh so small footprint, the excellent FAQs and manual pages; I have OpenBSD installed on my eeepc 901 netbook. It originally came with Xandros which I used for a while before installing Ubuntu on the extra 16gb disk. I couldn't get the wireless card to work with Ubuntu and I wasn't particularly pleased with the amount of screen real-estate used up by gnome et el. And even after upgrading the memory to 2gig I still found the time it took to launch apps a tad too slow. So early this year I installed my preferred Unix OS, OpenBSD on the 4gig disk and use the 16gig disk for /home. I find OpenBSD and xfce4 are perfect for this little netbook. Wifi works with the ral(4) driver and i get the usual 8hours battery life.

Here is my dmesg(8) and sysctl(8).

OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #1671: Wed Feb 4 01:28:11 MST 2009
todd@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem = 2138271744 (2039MB)
avail mem = 2059341824 (1963MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/03/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0710 (30 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "1603" date 10/03/2008
bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 901
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) P0P1(S4) P0P4(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) P0P9(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 2
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0P4)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P6)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P7)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P8)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P9)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P5)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 90 degC
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "901" serial type LION oem "ASUS"
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpiasus0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn2 at acpi0: PWRB
acpivideo at acpi0 not configured
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xec00!
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x060f0c2206000c22
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1600 MHz (1244 mV): speeds: 1600, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Host" rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945GME Video" rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)
drm0 at inteldrm0
"Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 3)

"riddled with defects" != "has defects"

And in MS' case, its more like "riddled with defects that create security holes a semi truck could drive through" which most certainly does not describe "pretty much all" software, MS software doesn't have much company in that category.

http://openbsd.org/

Actually since the 4.3 release or thereabouts you can download full ISO image from the official website, for example this link leads to Openbsd 4.4 i386 ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.4/i386/install44.iso

I guess at some point the OpenBSD team has decided that being generally arrogant and annoying doesn't really help their cause, since someone who wants to give Unix a try, would not have to either pony up 50 bucks upfront or spend 20 minutes of his life figuring how to create a installer image and instead go with netbsd, freebsd, or dare I say, linux. And even though Openbsd is not a proprietary product it did feel like one - I always had to keep its cds around, and it's definitely a property of a closed-source software - you always have to have a hard copy of it. I'm glad they've stopped doing that.
 

ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.4/i386/install44.iso OpenBSD has been posting the install ISOs since at least 4.3. If you want the fancy 3 disc package (that boots multiple architectures on a single disc, you'll have to buy the official distribution.

Then why are you using Debian and not using an actually secure OS OpenBSD or FreeBSD?

OpenBSD systrace?
This is a bit less dry : http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=363731

If OpenBSD itself can detect operating systems with varying levels of success (see pf.os finger printing - http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=pf.os&sektion=5&manpath=OpenBSD+4.4) it stands to reason other programs can use this same idea.

OpenBSD doesn't use ipchains -- it uses pf, which many people -- myself included -- like a lot. OpenBSD is secure and easy to get routing.

The end result is the same, but pf can be easily adapted to many tricks like this, automatically blocking SSH bruteforcing.

I'd give the beginners using Ubuntu a break. They're overwhelming sometimes, but the community growing is a good thing. I'm sure someone I've introduced to Linux has needed online help (badly!), but another friend I introduced to Linux really dug in and we're now both better developers because of it. You just don't know.

I second FTP. What a mess. Unfortunately, it's one of the more widely-adopted file transfer protocols out there, and we have to support it.

We're using OpenBSD's FTP proxy. It works well, and is easy to set up (much easier than it used to be, anyway).

IPv6, DNSSEC, and ubiquitous SSL or IPSec are things that are long overdue.

http://www.openbsd.org/

OpenBSD likes the ISC license. deRaadt was a bit unhappy with the old arrangement.

I believe that the OP referred to that OpenBSD have been quite strong in their opposition to blobs in the OS. On the other hand they don't seem to mind unfree firmware.

Thanks for that! Absolutely hilarious. At least now I know where 4.3 release song came from!

Well, you can use newer versions of OpenSSH to do VPN, although I think you are required to enable root login over SSH.
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ssh
Scroll down to the section: "SSH-BASED VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORKS"
An example here:
http://blog.brixandersen.dk/?p=47
and another on my personal site:
http://mcarlson.ca/fossnotes/?page=ssh

For permanent relief from crap man pages see http://www.openbsd.org/.

Pretty much anything in here: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi

Perhaps you're thinking of another OS? Polipo 0.9.9 was added to the tree on 24 September 2005.

man acpithinkpad. man apm.

Yes, it works fine.

man acpithinkpad. man apm.

Yes, it works fine.

Here's the song with lyrics for this release: 4.4: "Trial of the BSD Knights" http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#44

They audit every line of code they ship, including the external stuff they don't write.

I keep seeing this, but it is not entirely correct. According to their own FAQ they do not audit ports or packages to the same degree as the base system. One must assume that the "external stuff" has not been through an audit at all when installing a port/package.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#Intro

Now, RMS seems to spend his time avoiding soap and bitching that Linux should be called 'GNU/Linux' since it 'uses GNU software, and Linux is just the kernel.' If RMS had actually spent more time working on projects like HURD instead of writing the GNU Software Manifesto he may have a right to bitch.

Also, see the italic text here. Bottom line: don't listen to this guy.

``When I tell my PC to shut down, all it really needs to do is make sure that no files are currently being written to disk, force a dismount of all drives, and then cut the power.''

That's pretty much how it works on OpenBSD and NetBSD (at least when I used them). They do run /etc/rc.shutdown, but that script generally doesn't do very much. So you are right: much of what other systems do on shutdown is unnecessary and a waste of time.

If you really want to shut down your system quickly, I guess you could use halt -f or shutdown -n, but I'm not sure that would be a good idea, because it really won't run any shutdown scripts at all, as far as I understand.

Don't worry about the liner notes - they stopped including the list of donors after 3.6, referring you here instead.

Here you go. (It's 4.3; 4.4 isn't out on ftp yet).

Trading off security? The fact of the matter is that security holes are problems whether your competitors and the mafia can exploit them or just your competitors.

And that we can thank our Dear RMS for.

Where do you get this "we" crap white boy?

Or just use OpenBSD instead of Linux. It goes about 98% of the way towards keeping your server secure. The other 2% is you not fucking up the security they provide by being stupid.

To the grandparent, I think you'll find lots of precombiled binaries to download for MIPS.

http://www.debian.org/
http://www.fedoraproject.org/
http://www.ubuntu.com/
http://www.opensuse.org/
http://www.slackware.org/
http://www.gentoo.org/
http://www.freebsd.org/
http://www.openbsd.org/

Try this:

Set up any box, make it OpenBSD, hell, SELinux.

http://www.openbsd.org/

http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/

Lock that bad boy down, complete with Honeypot.
Then go here - piss these guys off (not hard - be patient):

http://www.wolfware.dk/intro/welcome.asp

Did I remind you to watch from a disk-loaded Linux box?
A good time will be had by all.

You'll have to toss the hardware on both machines, but eh, if you grab the Honeypot traffic (if they don't catch it) you could write a book.

PROFIT !!!

Depending on the intended use, a minimal install of OpenBSD might do the trick.

And if you read about the auditing process here: http://www.openbsd.org/security.html#process
We are not so much looking for security holes, as we are looking for basic software bugs...
Shame Linus has his head stuck up his ass, or he could have read that, too.

OpenBSD and PF http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ makes for a pretty mean router/firewall. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PF_(firewall)

Most people here will tell you to build a linux box, and they aren't wrong to do so.
However you can also use OpenBSD and build an active-active or active-passive firewall with two
devices if you like using CARP. Depends on how critical you consider your internet connection.
Either way load balancing across multiple ISPs is trival in OpenBSD's pf and is in fact one of their
example configurations on their website. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html

Although their pf syntax can appear intimidating at first, it's actually quite easy. Good luck.

Clear, irrefutable proof that BSD is dying.

I know, it seems like only nine years ago it was a four-clause license, now all three major BSDs have gone to two-clause licenses. Within a decade it'll be a zero-clause license and BSD will finally die...

Download the latest OpenBSD source code and read up. It's well written, well maintained and very well documented.

I attended a presentation once where one of the admins (Bob Beck) at UAlberta showed off his pf-based system to yank DHCP leases from machines that met their criteria for zombie traffic (typically a sudden blast of SMTP traffic). Actually, I think it was a little more complicated than that, but the end result is that desktops are redirected to a "You are zombied, contact the IT department" webpage. Pretty cool.

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=pf.conf 'nuf said