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PalmStation doesn't appear to care. They've had this up at least since Christmas.

http://slashdot .org/article.pl?sid=00/04/27/0858200&mode=thre ad
http://linuxtoday.com/stories/17660.html
http://www.geeknews.org/news/fe b00/newsitem090.html
http://www.palmstation.com/ view_article.py?article=1786
http://www.pdabuzz.com/Features/Yopy.html
http://slashdot .org/article.pl?sid=00/02/27/1027237&mode=thre ad
http://www.pcworld.com /pcwtoday/article/0,1510,15486,00.html
http://www.ch ip.de/PC2D/PC2DB/PC2DBA/pc2dba.htm?id=323&ress ort=20 (German)
http://www.twomobile.com/new_032200_y opy.html (obviously they didn't credit the source of the pictures and video footage!)
http://ore illy.linux.com/pub/a/network/2000/05/05/magazine/L inuxPDA.html
http://www.handheldmed.com/code/news /yopi1.htm
http://www.gnn.de/0005/7603.html (German)
http://www.p cwelt.de/content/news/newprodukte/2000/05/xn090500 003.html (German)

http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/ eng/product/digital/pda/
http://www.gmate.co.kr

http://www.palmtopmagazin.de/board/linux Discussion about Linux-PDAs (German)
http://www.palmtopmagazin.de/news/linux Linux-PDA news (German)
http://www.theyopy.de German Yopy fan site
http://www.handhelds.org Linux-Development for Compaq iPaq
http://www.yopy.org Another Yopy fan site

PalmStation has a nice summary of this new Clie. And, of course, the big news is the higher resolution (about time!). But it will be only offered in Japan, so this is largely non-news for the rest of the world.

Myself, I'm going to wait for the Palm m505 (aka the "Palm Vc"), which is due out next week.

Alex Bischoff
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while i feel for you, i'd have to agree w/ the /. editors on the decision. when the m505 launches at cebit, i'm sure it'll hit the news. until now it's just a rumor.

for anyone really interested in all the latest, i've found the palminfocenter to be the best source of info. (pdabuzz, brighthand, and palmstation are some other good ones for ppl interested)

Huh? the m505 is due to be released next week.

Wanna see what it looks like?

Sony are also planning on releasing a new Clie in Japan today (no more information available yet)

It was also announced that the Handspring range will go on sale in Australia this week. They're being distributed & supported by Vodafone. Prices range from AUD$349 - AUD$1043, the Edge will cost AUD$899. There was an article in yesterdays's AustralianIT and there's a small article over at cnet today.

If you want to see people get all wet on the typing chair about this fraud du jour, you need to tune in on PalmStation. They've got a User Survey, and even several articles. I'm sure it's a total coincedence that this flood of 'information' happened at the same time as the Natalie Portman/Hot grits crowd dropped by in force, right?

If you want to see people get all wet on the typing chair about this fraud du jour, you need to tune in on PalmStation. They've got a User Survey, and even several articles. I'm sure it's a total coincedence that this flood of 'information' happened at the same time as the Natalie Portman/Hot grits crowd dropped by in force, right?

If you want to see people get all wet on the typing chair about this fraud du jour, you need to tune in on PalmStation. They've got a User Survey, and even several articles. I'm sure it's a total coincedence that this flood of 'information' happened at the same time as the Natalie Portman/Hot grits crowd dropped by in force, right?

Oh, come on. The reason why K5 isn't trolled as much as Slashdot is because it's a smaller community. People only troll when they know that enough people will read their comments, get offended, and take their bait. The community here does not tolerate troll comments, and moderates them down accordingly.

Any community that is sufficiently small and concentrated will not be affected by trolls. Look at some of the smaller Slash-like sites and mailing lists for some examples. As sites grow, like the Palm-centric Palmstation, more protective measures have to be instituted to make sure that the trolls don't overtake the site. Hell, it even happened to K5 a few months ago.

At PalmStation recently: The Palm GamePad, an extension for your Palm that gives you standard GameBoy buttons, information on a new Swedish net-driven PDA, as well as information on the successor to the pdQ.

I was actually interested in posting a similar article today, but I knew it wasn't much of a post...I'm x-mas geek shopping and a cell phone with pda features is at the top of my list. Unfortunately it looks I'm going to be out of luck for x-mas. I've ruled out the handspring phone as being too expensive and too bulky. Plus as mentioned before it's not going to be available across the country. I think CDMA is a better option in the US at least for now.

Here's what I'm interested in: the Kyocera Smartphone Series - QCP 6035 that is supposed to be available early next year. It's CDMA with palm 3.5 with 8 mb.

Here are some articles about it:

News article about it here and here (with some pics) and here.

Here's what they filed with the FCC here. The FCC has some nice pics of the guts of the pda phone. (Side note: I figured all you hardware geeks would like this)

Ok, here's what I want: a cell phone with PDA, pager features, 8 mb of ram for under 600 bucks and is small.

I'm not going to get that with the handspring phone. It's going to cost me 800 plus after taxes to get that and Kyocera says they are going to be selling theirs for under 800 and it's going to be smaller.

If you don't know about Kyocera, they bought Qualcomm CDMA phone business which included the out of date PDQ phone. Here's a link to their site

Ok...that's all I know....does anyone on /. know of a palm OS cell phone deal that is or is going to be better?

Yes, it does look nicer than the old PQA. Though the new PQA actually looks pretty nice. Very cleverly designed, if naught else. And cooler, form-factor-wise, than the Visor+VisorPhone.
I'm not a huge admirer of the Visor (I fear that's due to loyalty to my Palm IIIxe), but this is a great application of the Springboard. However, read the discusison threads on the Visorphone on any handheld site (like Palmstation) and you'll see the problems. Cost, coverage, compatibility, etc. I won't rehash each of those issues here.

For the disposable-income-laden power user, this looks like The Way To Go. But otherwise... I'm not so sure. This seems partially to be a "because we can" feat that will need time to become perfected.

-J

You can go to palmstation ( http://www.palmstation.com ) for more information, including more links to complete pages.

There has been discussion there about these links all week.

Palmpal was very good. They even used to offer a means of paying other people or transferrinf money to others right through your PalmOS PDA. That was excellent until they cancelled it. This was an excellent system. I'm not saying it's not great right now, but the ability to use a PDA for paying was amazing. Can you imagine being at the store, taking out your PDA, aiming at an IR port, and then paying? I for one, would love that.

It's too bad PayPal got rid of this, because with this they could have continued being at the front of innovative payment technology.

We've been having a ball with this over at PalmStation: see this thread.
(for palmstation, 40+ is a lot of posts, ok? ;))
-J

We've been having a ball with this over at PalmStation: see this thread.
(for palmstation, 40+ is a lot of posts, ok? ;))
-J

...PalmStation posted this article about Palm's future with the XScale technology... According to the article, "The XScale architecture offers performance roughly 20 times the Dragonball and uses less power..."

Maybe this will be foundation for PalmOS 4...
-J

http://slashdot .org/article.pl?sid=00/04/27/0858200&mode=thread
http://linuxtoday.com/stories/17660.html
http://www.geeknews.org/news/fe b00/newsitem090.html
http://www.palmstation.com/ view_article.py?article=1786
http://www.pdabuzz.com/Features/Yopy.html
http://slashdot .org/article.pl?sid=00/02/27/1027237&mode=thread
http://www.pcworld.com /pcwtoday/article/0,1510,15486,00.html
http://www.ch ip.de/PC2D/PC2DB/PC2DBA/pc2dba.htm?id=323&ressort= 20 (German)
http://www.twomobile.com/new_032200_y opy.html (obviously they didn't credit the source of the pictures and video footage!)
http://ore illy.linux.com/pub/a/network/2000/05/05/magazine/L inuxPDA.html
http://www.handheldmed.com/code/news /yopi1.htm
http://www.gnn.de/0005/7603.html (German)
http://www.p cwelt.de/content/news/newprodukte/2000/05/xn090500 003.html (German)

http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/ eng/product/digital/pda/
http://www.gmate.co.kr

http://www.palmtopmagazin.de/board/linux Discussion about Linux-PDAs (German)
http://www.palmtopmagazin.de/news/linux Linux-PDA news (German)
http://www.theyopy.de German Yopy fan site
http://www.handhelds.org Linux-Development for Compaq iPaq
http://www.yopy.org Another Yopy fan site

Hello.
I also saw this news item on PalmStation. The general view there seems to be that the unit is 'ugly'. You can find the comments about it here.
I don't see why anyone finds this thing ugly, or big, or unfunctional. I agree that it's not the prettiest of designs, and I think the shape is a little too round. I really wish they had done more with a Palm Five-ish case design.

The first comment on that page is interesting: the guy predicts this thing to flop. If this flops, Palm could get into troubles.

Hello.
I also saw this news item on PalmStation. The general view there seems to be that the unit is 'ugly'. You can find the comments about it here.
I don't see why anyone finds this thing ugly, or big, or unfunctional. I agree that it's not the prettiest of designs, and I think the shape is a little too round. I really wish they had done more with a Palm Five-ish case design.

The first comment on that page is interesting: the guy predicts this thing to flop. If this flops, Palm could get into troubles.

Interestingly, it was TRG that found the bug, and told Palm and Handspring. These guys are really on top of their game. This is probably why the TRG fix is out first.

Also, TRG released yesterday their AutoCF enhancement, that lets many applications and databases reside on the compact flash. What this effectively means is that you can now have a palm with hundreds of megabytes of effective memory. They did an outstanding job on it.

As for other comments on the lack of flashable roms on the handspring (and some palms like the IIIe), the only real disadvantage is that patches must be layered back on in the event of a total system rebuild, and take up just a little more memory. Neither of these things is even remotely a big deal in real world use.

Palmstation has a lot more information on the topic, complete with some appearences from at least one of the TRG folks to answer questions.

The actual bug had to do with one of the ways you can instruct the DRAM to self refresh in sleep mode... the hardware was buggy. There was about a 1/8000 chance that it would corrupt some random memory location, and it got executed once a minute. This translates to something being nuked once a week, which may or may not be used memory, and may or may not cause a problem.

The patch was simply to use a different self refresh mode, that is almost as good, and has the added advantage of not being broken.:)

Hats off to TRG... these people continue to amaze me, from the days of custom modifying their 8MB upgrade cards to boot linux to the current crop of TRG-Pro compact flash enabled Palm units.

Bill

For those who just want the link: This Old Palm.

I've seen those same images before, but they were being shown as an artist's rendition, not the actual product.

This came on Palmstation last month. If you want to read the article, and the comments there, check out:

PalmStation has two screenshots of the PalmOS Emulator running a color OS. No word on whether they're real or not, but if they are... (imitating Tank in The Matrix) Yeah! Wow.

PalmStation has a hands on review of the TRGPro (The device in question here). Check it out here
-Hal

PalmStation has a hands on review of the TRGPro (The device in question here). Check it out here
-Hal

There is a discussion of how to do this under Linux over at Palmstation .

You are right... pilot-xfer is a great tool (although the version I have cored when trying to sync a full 8 MB TRG upgraded IIIx).

Bill Kilgallon

news does travel slow on slashdot these days. I remember submiting this article from palmstation.com a couple of months ago... and the link to the spotless system - experimental Java[TM]* system for the Palm Connected Organizer ...no doubt the fore-runner sun r&d project to the public news release.

Alex Bischoff
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I read through the article, and it seems that they named the Anonymous posters as defendants. Interesting concept, since they don't know *who* the posters are. They talked about getting the data from Yahoo, but if Yahoo's system allows for truly anonymous commenting, that data may not be easy to get, if it's possible at all. I know PalmStation.Com logs *nothing* about anonymous commentors. The only way I'd be able to track anyone down, if I were to be asked, would be to look in my server logs, and find the IP of the person who posted a comment at the exact time that the comment in question was posted. While this may work for something posted recently, I dont have logs for anything other than the current month. I can only imagine that /.'s comment system works similarly for anonymous people.
-Hal