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Are they using SlashCode or PHPNuke on this portal?

All in all, apart from the obvious rhetoric point for democracy being served by the collaborative organization of information (which is valid), other advantages of blogs and wikis include the formation of communities revolving around areas of interest, and positive contributions to the 'information tag' game (trying to keep up with the news), especially where technology is involved.
Of course, they can never totally supplant central information dispensation efforts (news agencies, zines and portals), but they don't have to: they are designed to supplement such efforts and provide a modicum of control and feedback by the public.

PHP-Nuke is your best option, try it! you will love it

Obviously, as PHP-Nuke's author, I can't be too much objetive on this matter.

There are a lot of Content Mnagement Systems on the net to try out.

PHP-Nuke is just one of them with many nice features that maybe can solve your needs. But with so many options (free software options) you need to try then decide.

Download all of them, test each one and decide for the better option. You have many options like PHP-Nuke, Postnuke, Slashcode, PHPSlash, Zope, Thatware, PHPWeblog, Xoops, MyPHPnuke, etc... etc.. etc... I can only speak for PHP-Nuke but I prefer that you try and evaluate it yourself.

Hope you can find the best solution in the "free" world ;)

Regards!

PHP-Nuke is the best Content Management System I tried out. It has a very BIG community, a lot of addons, modules, blocks and themes to play with, the people is very friendly, administration system is very easy to understand and use, has intelligent modules and blocks system... You'll not be dissapointed at all.

I used phpnuke. Slash-like, runs on any server capable of mysql and php.. VERY easy to install and administer. I use tzo.com's dymanic dns service myself... although dyndns is cheaper :) i just forgot about it when i set it up(i'm a previous tzo customer.. so i knew about that one from a few years ago)

i tried slascode, but couldnt get the mod_perl to work quite right... and found php nuke much more admin friendly

my group is at linuxdistro.tzo.com right now, soon it will be just linuxdistro.com...

Slashdot has quite an amount of good programmers and a big heap of *nix users (or at least 'nix wannabees).
But honestly now, most rant about compatability and flash being o so crappy and superfluos (actually one of the main reasons to use flash is/was compatability), smartass about HTML being no typesetting language (blahblahblah...it makes me sick!) and at the same time make the crappiest webdesign one could ever imagine. Reading some the comments posted here just gets me fuming again about the arrogant *nix comunity.
Bluntly said: Most /.ers don't know sh*t about webdesign, in contrary to what they think their Webdesign is in quality.

My suggestion:
Get into it and try for yourself and learn form the people you've seen good webdesign from. A very good community is built around Zeldmans AListApart and WebStandards.org(stick to this site when your going into implementation phase!).

Top of the pops DESIGN (.dcr and flash - of course) you can find at Yugo Nakamuras Site Yugop (check out the archives!!) and at NosePilot(the link at the bottom!).
Note that this is DESIGN that is kinda over the top in the way that it actually allready is art.

If you're going to make a massivley content orientaded site you might want to go dynamic form the begining. Check out PHP/MySQL for this. Or get youself a full featured GPLd CMS that are out there for a dime a dozen, maybe like PHPNuke. But that's actually all more webprogramming, that kinda comes later on...

Good luck. Oh, and NEVER discuss design with the people of kornshell.com, xfree.org or listen to the advice from /. patrons. Of course I would be one of the exceptions to that. :-)

It deserves a WOW award! Don't use slash websites either! Heres an alternative

This is true...

When doing some research on what I wanted to run as my personal weblog, I looked at slashcode, scoop, PHPNuke, and PostNuke.

slashcode and scoop were a bear to get running, and slashcode was extremely slower. PHPNuke took me a total of 10 minutes to get running, was a simple interface, and was, generally, a "prettier" interface. Not only that, but both Nuke's were easier to modify, and add onto.

Nothing against slashdot, but I think other backends are just better for the majority (although I'd love to find a good J2EE weblog that was as "pretty" as the Nuke's).

(For those interested, I went with PHPNuke).

Some short while ago...linuxjournal switched to PHPNuke

Looks like that POS can't handle the load.

Newer accounts will never get above 50.

The karma cap is ultragay. The worst part is that a capped user can post a comment which is modded to +5, then later modded down to +4, and end up losing a point of karma.

But, hey, this is Slashdot, what do you expect? With broken URL filters, broken ASCII art filters, poor session management, and uneducated megalomaniacal "editors" reposting old stories and banning dissenters, karma is the least of our problems. Malda and the luser krew have actually managed to make this stupid little Perl script less useful over the past three years. It's no wonder that so many people use PHP-Nuke instead.

There are several different packages which are easier for individuals to configure. PHP Nuke comes to mind. Could anyone tell me how, or if, slashcode's difficult setup procedure is mitigated by administration or scalability?

that's php-Nuke ... which is, in and of itself, a violation of the GPL, as the "author" stole most of the code from a gpl set of scripts called thatware

F. Burzi, the lead developer for phpNuke seemed to be overly protective of his baby and a little bit egotistical, so he got forked. Right know the PostNuke fork seems to be superior, the problem areas are problematic because they came from phpNuke. The phpNuke is pretty impressive because its obvious that F. Burzy isn't a software engineer nor does he follow the basic principals, and this fairly large thing works! When you read the code, its obvious that he has learned a lot durring the development of the project, some code is quite good, and some is quite beginner stuff.

Personaly I'm planning to work with the more open and more polished fork, PostNuke. If FB get left in the dust, such is life. Using the GPL doesnt preclude being egotistical, but it does put a limit on it.

PHPNuke project (a slashdot-like weblog) makes commiting changes as difficult as possible. Nukelite mainly does not accept patches, which is quite sad, when you do the work to improve something and he reimplements your changes his way in the next version or even forgets it.

The FreeBSD project also makes contribution quite difficult, but not as PHPNuke.

I've made several project forks because of this only to find out, that I don't have the time to maintain my versions and making the fork was good for me, but mainly didn't help the others.

I also think, this is because of copyright. Many people write a GPL covered library, make it very used and then wait, if someone needs it under different license for a fee. This would be very difficult, if the code was from several different authors. So the author won't accept your patch, because it would contamine the code and he wouldn't be the only copyright holder (and so he can't sell the software or library under different license, which would f.e. allow linking with proprietary code).

PostNuke is a good example of a true collaboration that not only allows, but encourages individuals to participate at all levels. Meaning, it's even okay of you're not a programmer.

For those who don't know. PostNuke is a weblog / Content Management System (CMS). It offers full CSS support, HTML 4.01 transitional compliance throughout, an advanced blocks system, and is fully multi-lingual enabled. PostNuke is a fork of Francisco Burzi's PHP-Nuke ... in fact, the PostNuke project was started because of the closed open/source nature of PHPNuke.

Try it.

The "source" is:

<script>
alert("This site has a cross-site scripting vulnerability!")
window.open("http://slashdot.org/")
</script>

You can be much more nasty with this, popping up goatse.cx or whatever. Basically, it's possible to do anything JavaScript allows you to do.

Most of the time, when you let users type something, you don't mind showing it back to them (they typed it after all). But with cross-site scripting, when you visit www.haxor.com, they'll provide you a link to www.phpnuke.org, but take advantage of the fact that phpnuke.org will display whatever that user has typed in.

Normally this isn't a problem, but there are people who are really good with javascript that can basically email your cookies to somebody@haxor.com after you've clicked that link. Once they've got your cookies, they can usually pretend to be you- submitting comments, stories, etc. Changing passwords. On PHPNuke, this isn't such a bad thing, but I wouldn't want anybody messing with me on my online banking site.

Take a look at the previous example. I mailed the Nuke authors about 3 months ago telling them about the above problem. No response. Don't use Nuke for anything you want to be secure. The explanation of what just happened is that search.php displayed whatever "query" contained. I stuck a few special bits of html (ie a close bracket) into their search box. When it got re-displayed, I prematurely exited their input field. This gave me free reign to put nifty red font tags onto their page. Imagine that it was evil javascript instead.

To prevent cross-site scripting attacks, you must remember to escape all untrusted data before displaying it to a user. For PHP, it would be something like: [input type=text value="[?PHP echo htmlspecialchars($their_input); ?]"]

The htmlspecialchars function automagically kills all dangerous characters before writing the data, making it much more difficult to attack.

--Robert

Maybe you guys should look into PHP Nuke or something. At least something that works.

Up your's, AC has no karma

If you're not sure what the heck I'm talking about, here's a recent article in Linux.com that goes into some gory detail.

I've used slashcode for a variety of projects, but then a couple of months ago I found Phpnuke It's really similar to slashcode except in PHP. Its much easier to install since you only need Apache,PHP and Mysql instead of intalling all those PERL modules. It has a lot of cool features that slashcode doesn't have so check it out.

Best I can figure...if you need portal software, Postnuke or PHPNuke would work fine and can handle RSS and "Reputation" fine via slashdot like moderation. Either Nuke can receive or send RSS feeds, and it's much more robust than Reptile.

If one wants to do java and XML, Cocoon from apache is greatly suited to that task. I haven't seen portal software written for it.

Best I can figure from this project, they want to use some sort of decentralized authentication scheme and are calling it "Reputation." They are tied to some sort of goofy Sierra Reputation thing.

Best I can tell, people are desperate for a competitor to .NET, this isn't it. Slashdot, your companion site Freshmeat is for 0.0.1 software. I don't think even the author has figured out what Reptile is for.

Dude! The LiViD link links to the wrong place! You should check your linksto make sure they go to the right place.

Perhaps someonecould write an open source Perl script that checks links and put it in Slashcode so that CmdrTaco never links to the wrong place again.

Or perhaps Microsoft just put some smart tag code in Slash.

Yes I know is is somewhat offtopic, but CmdrTaco did link to the wrong place with the LiViD link. www.livid.org goes to someguy's homepage while www.linuxvideo.orrg goes to LiViD. So this is ontopic. And it makes fun of Smart Tags.

--Volrath50

As has been mentioned, Mandrakesofts donations page came about after numerous requests from the users. I for one am glad to see it -- I've used Mandrake since years ago, and until now I've never paid a cent for it. I love the distro and I would like some way to show it monetarily :-) But I wouldn't go out and by a boxed set because I wouldn't read the manual, I'd throw the box away, I wouldn't need support (if that's even included) and I know retailers probably make more than Mandrakesoft from these sales anyway.

Now the great thing about Mandrakesoft is that they hire lots of developers from many free software projects, like KDE, GNOME, PHP-Nuke, Plex86, Apache and many others. When you make a donation, you can mark those money for, say, KDE development. This way KDE will get better, KDE developers will eat, Mandrakesoft will save some dough and I can sleep at night.

In my opinion Mandrakesoft is heading in the right direction -- their way of income is a lot better than that of SuSE, which seeks to sell more boxes by making it extremely difficult to download their distro. And it's better than that of Red Hat, which charges for services such as automated software updates (which is included free with Mandrake).

Indeed, I think Mandrakesoft is discovering the future ideal way of making free software and still eat three meals a day. Their method is in many ways compliant with The Street Performer Protocol, in that users will pay up if and only if they actually like what they get.
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If I have a copy of your copyrighted work, you would need to have an EULA to protect against any usage of its functionality.

Not if you're using it to provide a service to which the public can connect, such as running a server daemon. The courts would probably interpret that as "public performance" of Apache, mod_perl or PHP, MySQL, and whatever nuke/slash/scoop/everything/other weblog engine you're using.

> I'm sure there are others too.

Yes. Francisco Burzi, creator of PHP-Nuke, for instance...

Does anyone use Slash etc. for a personal page? I just started one with PHP-Nuke but it's definitly overkill.

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I think the killer app in this space (open source scripting language-based news/content management systems) is really PHPNuke, which is adding new users on a daily basis.

I think the killer app in this space (open source scripting language-based news/content management systems) is really PHPNuke, which is adding new users on a daily basis.

I don't know why rusty named Scoop Scoop, but I do know that Slashcode isn't alone in getting support emails for PHPSlash :p

Consider this email regardling PHPNuke:
"Subject: The best nuked site Ive never seen
To: Kuro5hin.org Help
Dear Sirs of Kuro5hin,

Im journalist and Im new to PHP nuke.
Ive been visiting many nuked sites and yours is the VERY best.

I wonder if you could send my your theme files, not to use or copy it in my
site, I dont have a site, just to learn to develope a good theme.

Thank you very much, and sorry about my english.

Best regards, .."
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Try PHPNuke from phpnuke.org. I got it up and running in 5 minutes. It should work with any ISP (unix) that gives you MySQL and PHP.

No, it does not run the memory usage daemon and bloated Perl code which makes Slashcode. This site is the new PHPNuke, better looking, lighter, cleaner layout, cleaner display. I'm no coder or worker for phpnuke, but it sure does kill slashcode.


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