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Re:I've begun to notice this phenomenon...
I don't get it. Why do people trust reviews from people they've never met, have no reason to believe, and who are posting "anonymously" on the internet?
I'm a lot more inclined for or against a movie/book/CD if i read a review from somebody I've come to trust a bit because I've found in the past that their opinions hold some merit... -
Decline of Individual Music File Sharing.....does not mean decline in total music file sharing. People are moving to downloading complete ALBUMS via eDonkey/eMule. Users don't want to deal with many, many rips of the same song (many of which are faked) on KaZaA.
As a quick check visit top 100 lists such as Pitchfork top 50 of 2003, which contains sub-pop music flavors. Now search for the albums on edonkey networks with clients or FileDonkey. It's amazing to see so many RARs and ZIPs.
Less fakes, more helpful comments, better hashing, etc... at least for time being.
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Count me among new file sharers
I own more than 1,500 CDs. Up until recently, I owned an additional 400 cassettes, but they degraded so much over time that I eventually had to pitch them after several unsuccessful attempts to record them as MP3s. I have purchased, on average, three to four CDs, every week for the past several years.
Prior to this year, I had very little experience with file sharing. I always thought it took too long, required too much effort and I didn't want to worry about poor rips at low bitrates. I thought both sides have their collective heads up their collective asses. Traders whining about copyright law vs theft and the music industry doing everything they can to destroy themselves. I don't know what's more annoying, people saying that they steal because music is overpriced, or label executives saying that traders will put low-level employees out of business. Show me that trailer with the stuntman again and I'll barf! Plus, I liked to point out that just about every complete album I downloaded I ended up purchasing. It seemed like P2P was a non-issue and both sides were idiots.
Then I got sick over the holidays and ended up hanging out in bed. After my third straight day of Bond movies on Spike, I decided to see how long it would take to download Pitchfork's Top 50 Singles of 2003 on a P2P network. By the end of the night I had the complete list, and suddenly the challenge was "How long would it take to download their top 50 ALBUMS of the year.
In the last two weeks I've downloaded nearly 50 CDs (Only six of them were on Pitchfork's list). Many have been out of print albums, but many more have been straight-up recent commercial releases. The quality is awesome and modern software enables you to queue up a long list of files and forget about it.
I now see what the RIAA has been so afraid of. Just a few weeks ago I was spending $50 a week on CDs. Now I drive by a record store and think "What sort of chump pays for music?" I don't download because music is expensive -- I download because it's too freakin' EASY. If one of their strongest customers is so easily turned, what's up with the casual consumer. The media companies are screwed. -
As a side-note...
Sage Francis and the Non-Prophets are going on a Fuck Clear Channel tour this year, so if you want to stick it to the man and listen to some damn good music at the same time, I highly suggest you hit it up.
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Re:and there's only one problem
You can search Pitchforkmedia.com for WARP and read reviews of some of their releases. Among the highest rated are:
Squarepusher
Boards of Canada
Two Lone Swordsmen
Plaid
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Re:and there's only one problem
You can search Pitchforkmedia.com for WARP and read reviews of some of their releases. Among the highest rated are:
Squarepusher
Boards of Canada
Two Lone Swordsmen
Plaid
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Re:and there's only one problem
You can search Pitchforkmedia.com for WARP and read reviews of some of their releases. Among the highest rated are:
Squarepusher
Boards of Canada
Two Lone Swordsmen
Plaid
Prefuse 73 -
Re:and there's only one problem
You can search Pitchforkmedia.com for WARP and read reviews of some of their releases. Among the highest rated are:
Squarepusher
Boards of Canada
Two Lone Swordsmen
Plaid
Prefuse 73 -
Re:and there's only one problem
You can search Pitchforkmedia.com for WARP and read reviews of some of their releases. Among the highest rated are:
Squarepusher
Boards of Canada
Two Lone Swordsmen
Plaid
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Let's not
I'd say that in the absolute sense yes, this was not the year's best music. As far as the mainstream goes though, I'd say that this list is very good for top 40 (I assume its all top 40, I don't listen to any radio). Anyway, for better music reviews and more underground music, http://www.pitchforkmedia.com can't be beat.
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Albums of the Year
Let's see if I can find a way to summarize the year's best music to my ears...
#1 : Do Make Say Think's Winter Hymn, Country Hymn, Secret Hymn. Amazing production, and a very contemporary look on the merging between what dark jazz promised with a certain hopefulness that lingers long after the album is over.
#2 : Howard Hello's Don't Drink His Blood - Deceptive in its pop simplicity, but with this dark streak. Again, mostly instrumental but with highly processed singing in places that borders on sinister. A real sleeper on the radar.
#3 : The Cinematic Orchestra's Man With a Movie Camera :: this is by far the best soundtrack ever produced for this film. Mixing jazz, pure psychedelia, and even throwing in a Art Ensemble of Chicago cover, this album ties everything that is meaningful about the psychedelic experience into a beautiful package. A must listen.
#4 The Microphones' Mount Eerie -- In addition to the wonderful vinyl pressing, with hand-stitched sewn sleeve, this album is a complete trip through the forces of nature and man's place within it. Deep and meditative, good for listening once every two months or so when you are ready to confront your closet.
There were dozens of other great releases this year, but those were the ones I was most thankful for.
On the reprint front, we were given a brilliant repackaging of the Soft Machine's BBC Radio Volume 1. Fantastic music from this forgotten band, at their very best. -
Another?
That would that would be in addition to Fear of Pop that he did with Ben Folds back in 1998. Despite the reviews that you see online, I think this is a gem... and it is available on vinyl to boot.
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Re:need assistance with my costume
Add a skull mask and turntables and go as Dr. Octagon, the octagonecologyst.
Or
Beleive the hype and stay home listening to this product of obviously deranged minds. You'll thank yourself for it.
Kurt Cobain was here but Doc Oc has novacain... -
Re:fools
I'm also surprised to see Radiohead's name mixed up in this as they're supposedly thinking about abandoning the album format altogether in favor of releasing EPs. Don't see how they're going to lose on album sales if they're not releasing any...
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Kind of contradictory for Radio head:To quote the Yorke himself:
Meanwhile, [Radiohead] frontman Thom Yorke has told Xfm that the newly released Hail to the Thief could be Radiohead's last album, citing the difficulties and pressure surrounding making a cohesive statement: "... I've had enough of this whole album thing and that sort of level of pressure and scrutiny and the way that it works in the music business."
Radiohead Tells Press That Hail May Be Their Last Album
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people's homepages...i think there must be a good selection of useful user "home" pages. would make a good thread, or posting in itself. from mine:
--webcurrency converter - findsounds.com
rebecca's reference - tom mayo's links
-words:acronym/abbr -lookup -finder -bm
trans -babelfish -worldlingo -google bm
jargon file
--musicgnod - audioquarium --books:
amazon - abebooks - bookfinder
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off the beaten path
if you're looking for great music, american or otherwise, there's no better place than pitchfork.
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Re:I can't believe the ideas the RIAA thinks they.Oh, and I haven't bought a single music CD in the last 3 years. And I'm proud of it. Once a system is in place to pay money to artists directly, I'll put some money in towards the artists I like. Until then, I ain't paying squat.
That's a pretty lame excuse. I understand your hatred of the RIAA, but record labels do pay for the packaging and distribution costs to get them into record stores. If you don't want to support the RIAA, you would be better off buying records from artists on independent labels who treat their artists fairly. You'll get the added bonus of finding artists you think are worth paying for, too. Labels such as Matador, Up, Drag City, K, and many more. You can find a lot of indie label music reviewed at Pitchfork Media. You can listen to a fair amount of indie label stuff at KCRW's online streams.
Of course, if you really just have to support the artist directly, go get out of the house and see them perform live and buy their cd from them personally. Don't just complain, be proactive.
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I have one actuallyHere's a shameless self-plug: I have a blog about music, and it's likely that some of what I post about is news to you. I Like American Music
I'd say there are 3 main ways I discover music:
- WFUV is my real-world station of choice. It doesn't have to be that one (though I recommend it), but find a station that seems to play the stuff you like and see what they turn you on to. I find the public (usually university-affiliated) stations are the best. See also WXPN, or WWOZ if you want to hear jazz. The commercial stations are hopeless.
- I actually pay for a subscription to eMusic. Their selection is a little thin, but since everything past your initial monthly investment is free, you'll find that you'll give things a chance that you might pass over if it was going to cost you a purchase.
- Friends hipper than me: There's one guy in particular who always seems to hear about good bands before I do. I know he reads the Village Voice and Pitchfork, but I suspect he has other sources as well.
Incidentally, I came across another blog yesterday, because it showed up in my referer logs: Homeland Obscurity. Might be of particular interest to /. folks, there's a lot about digital distribution, XM radio, and other areas of intersection between tech and tunes. - WFUV is my real-world station of choice. It doesn't have to be that one (though I recommend it), but find a station that seems to play the stuff you like and see what they turn you on to. I find the public (usually university-affiliated) stations are the best. See also WXPN, or WWOZ if you want to hear jazz. The commercial stations are hopeless.
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Pitchfork, RadioIO, DigitallyImported.
Pitchfork has interesting stuff about indie/alternative music. They also have sample songs of alternative bands. You can also listen to radioIO. Somewhat pretentious, but they do have good music and they have a "who's playing" applet, which lets you locate music you like. There is also digitally imported which has streams of trance/house/eurodance/classic music, and also sports a playing list for each stream.
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Independent Reviews
Filesharing is great for finding new artists, but it's good to know what to look for. I wake up every morning and read Pitchfork Media's reviews, and once a week we get music reviews in print locally from The Weekly Dig. They both generally review stuff from hiphop, rock, and electronic stuff, so I get a good variety. If someone says "These guys sound better than Soul Coughing," I'm apt to download a few mp3's to try to prove them wrong.
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my best linksGeneral use: Allmusic
New reviews and news: Pitchfork
Good, but specialised reviews: Absorb and Urban Smarts
Also, check out what label releases your favourite artists, and visit their site to check out other artists/albums they've released. This doesn't work for EMI or Virgin, but if you like Aphex Twin, try other Warp Records artists (or Rephlex). If you're partial to Pavement try other Matador artists, etc etc etc.
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there's a lot...
from zines to msg boards to slashdot similar thing to online stores to even online encyclopedias... there's a variety of information sources...here's just a few of the ones i know.
the fake matador bb
i love music
aquarius records
pitchfork
pataphysics research lab
mideheaven mailorder
all music guide
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All Music Guide
As a music writer, I find the All Music Guide to be indispensable. Ignore the "similar/related" albums section (on pages about albums, not about bands); it appears to be randomly generated. However, a lot of artist pages (the better known ones at least) have a "related artists" section and those are often at least in the ballpark. Search for someone you like at AMG, get yourself a good p2p client, and then download a song by each of the "related artists" from your AMG search.
If you're into obscure stuff and have a hard time finding it on a p2p, try to figure out what label they're on and then check the label's site... a lot of labels have sample mp3s by their artists these days. There are also scads of mailing lists out there devoted to specific genres. Oh, and Pitchfork is another good music site.
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pitchforkmedia.com
It leans toward the indie-rock scene, but pitchfork media is a good source for up-and-coming music that tends to be rather good (imho).
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I think the best way is word of mouthThe best way for bands to handle promotion and distribution, in my opinion, is to do it themselves. Sell CDs on their website, and use word of mouth to get their name out. This has happened with a lot of local bands here in Pittsburgh, like the excellent Miroslav.
Once you find a local band you like, check out their website to see who else THEY like in the local music scene (and who their reviewers suggest). Almost like CDNow's "If you like band X then you might like
...." thing.Once our album is out, I'm planning on marketing my band, The Girls, in a similar way - get linked from local bands' sites, get mentioned as another band that Pitchfork Media hates, and so on. I'm also planning to give away all our tracks, and then allow people to "tip" us (as well as buying CDs, but that's sort of an experiment... while I'd really like that to be a viable business model for entertainment, I don't know if it will actually work...
Hey, that gets me thinking (and I'm sorry for rambling), but what do people think is the best thing for a band to do on their website? Give away everything, then sell CDs/T-shirts/Buttons and have a "tip jar", or to have a few teaser songs on the site to entice people to order the CD?
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Re:sounds nice, but...
I recommend checking out pitchfork and their reviews. They are a pretty good crap filter, and have introduced me to some of the best music I have ever heard.
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Re:oh well
Theres a LOT of great contemporary bands out there, and the internet has given them a voice. Too bad this is not a more used resource. If you want to expand your music library, Id recommend you to check out pitchfork magazine's mp3 list. Sample songs of a lot of independent artists. Updated frequently, some of them will blow your mind. Also, seeing your musical taste, I think you'll like Mark Kpnofler, The Beta Band (they're awesome), Tori Amos, The Smiths and the Velvet Underground (maybe you know these, just didn't mention them). Give them a spin, check their stuff out. If you feel adventurous, hear some Zappa. That man was a sick twisted genius.
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Re:Complain to webdesignersI do the same, but haven't had luck so far. I have emailed 3 webmasters already even providing the fix for their sites' display problems and haven't gotten so much as an answer, don't even mention the fix.
One was Pitchfork Magazine, whose front page looks garbled in Mozilla due to css path specification (ie is less strict in enforcing correct file paths). Interestingly, their inner pages have the correct path to the file, so they look ok in mozilla AND explorer. I pointed out that all they had to do was add a slash in the css file specification and it would look ok, and haven't heard back from them, or seen it get fixed. I think many sites don't have active webmasters. They were probably commisioned and get maintenance just when they need them.
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Re:Maybe he just sucks?
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Re:Maybe he just sucks?
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oh yeah
I guess he forgot the about the fact that he sucks '18' review
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Re:How about the source material?!It's out there, in spades. A good place to look is Pitchfork Media, an indie record reviews site.
Some of my current faves (from a bunch of different genres) include:
- As someone else mentioned, Radiohead is simply phenomenal
- Sigur Rós
- Death Cab For Cutie
- Godspeed You Black Emperor!
- Pedro the Lion
- American Analog Set
- Dashboard Confessional
- Toad the Wet Sprocket
- Further Seems Forever
- In more of the singer/songwriter style, there's Glen Phillips and Matt Nathanson
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Mr. Durst doesn't like Weezer, apparently.
> Weezer also had troubles with Geffen to a point where last year they were shopping demos around trying to find a new label, IIRC.
Sho 'nuff. Fred Durst (he's, inexplicably enough, a VP, you know) didn't want to let them back into the studio. After hearing the Green Album, maybe he was on to something. -
Re:you won't be seeing any popular authors there!But realistically, no one can say with a straight face that someone who downloaded a copy of a commercially available work would be likely to go out and purchase a copy.
Been there, done that, got the CD (Me First and the Gimme Gimmes "Have a Ball"). However, let's assume that absolutely no one would be willing to pay for a commercially available work that they could easily get for free online. So suddenly Weber has thousands of people downloading and reading "On Basilisk Station", but not paying him any money. But there's a catch.
There are something like 9 or 10 Honor Harrington novels that Weber's written. Only the first one is available for download. This means that those people who enjoyed "On Basilisk Station" and want more will wander to their local bookstore or amazon.com and start forking over cash. People who, if not for the freely available copy of "On Basilisk Station", might never have located his books in the first place.
It's a win-win situation. Customers get a free book with no obligation. Authors get a means to expand their audience and (hopefully) sell more of their other books.
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Indie Labels
Check out the following labels. They are non-RIAA, big enough to be available on CDnow, and many band on them rock:
dischord(fugazi)
touch&go(GVSB, Shellac, Man or Astroman)
thrill jockey (tortoise, trans am)
desoto (burning airlines)
quarterstick (june of 44)
alternative tenticles (dead kennedies)
That's just scratching the surface.
Also check out:
Insound
Indypopradio
Pitchfork
For indie new, reviews and audio streams.
For info on starting your own, check out the document written by the folks at Simple Machines, an influentual but now defunct indie label.
There's no monopoly on talent! Go out there and support indie rock. Hell, I can barely remember the last major label album I bought! (Ok, ok, it was the new Modest Mouse)
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