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Comments · 22
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Re:What PC can't play a video game?What happens when you get a low-end PC with 8mb of integrated graphics
Tetris still runs.
Quake III Arena works in 8 MB graphics, and that game is over eight years old. When was the configuration you speak of commonplace? And how much VRAM does a PSP have? If your engine can't scale that far, you might need separate SKUs for low-end and high-end PCs, just as games come in PS2 and PS3 editions.
and no sound? Then the game turns on captions or whatever other scheme you've devised to make the game accessible to deaf people. Console games need captions too, just in case the TV is on mute so as not to wake the under-5 child. -
Re:Hardware requirements
As tacky as replying to yourself is, I should point out that I get 30+ fps in online gaming on that machine playing Quake III Arena and 15+ fps in the Urban Terror TC.
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Re:Why dedicated games machines?
I agree with you on many of those counts, but the issue is still you or me.
I don't have driver problems all the time, and I don't get error messages when I install my games. I too, like to play games sometimes for only 5 or 10 minutes, so I play:
And for the kids we like:
Now I can image when my son outgrows those sites, he might be ready for a console. No one has really made that point here- they all cite drivers issues, error messages, etc. But my point is that many people may be buying into marketing and thinking they somehow need a console.
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Re:Yes, but
Avoiding preemptive multitasking in high performance single-processor programming is a good idea, period.
Both Quake III and Quadra use single-threaded, non-preemptive sound output with great success, so why are so many Linux/others game developers so stubborn on the idea of putting the sound in its own thread?
Personally, I blame the original Doom port, which everyone duplicated, even though at the time it had big problems of latency compared to the single-threaded DOS version because of latencies in the scheduling of the sound process.
No, threads don't avoid this problem. Thank you for trying, but sorry.
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All I really want...
Just as long as id doesn't forget about those of us who dig good, fun, singleplayer gameplay, as opposed to ho hum multiplayer. Don't tease me with release date shenanigans or release yesterday's product without doing something interesting to it.
Oh, and I ain't suckin' nothing down, neither.
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Re:Some Questions
SELF-REPLY ALERT!
Do I have to recompile my kernel too?
No, idiot. Just find and compile radeon.o in the XFree86 source tree. Copy radeon.o (which is version 1.1.0) into /lib/modules/2.4.x/kernel/drivers/char/drm over the top of the existing one (which is version 1.0.0).
That worked. Greetz, grats, and thanx to all in the XFree86 team and their DRI buddies that made this work so well. Quake III is beautiful on my Radeon.
By the way, if you dual-boot, you can use a Win32 install of Quake III to play on Linux. Download the latest Linux point release from www.quake3arena.com. Change directories to one directory above your "Quake III Arena" directory on your Windows partition. Change its name to "quake3". Untar the point release. Change the directory name back to "Quake III Arena". Run quake3.x86. Isn't that spiffy? -
Gameplay!When I look back on Pong it looks so primitive and antiquated. Yet I can remember being entranced by it for hours. Not too long ago, a friend and I played it against one another and it was a blast.
I guess that despite all the nice graphics that have occured since then, the most important element in making a game is the gameplay. Some games that look gorgeous seem to have let the gameplay fall to a secondary position, while other games that are fairly old still get thousands of players a day.
It will be nice when gameplay and graphics get combined.
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Fundamentals
Server, coporate, enterprise, whatever... Does it play quake3 at blazing speeds?
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"Beowulf Clustered Cubicles, Anyone?"
(I took the liberty of cleaning up the spelling, and other nits
... :).I guess that would be amusing, wearing computers with "touch" connectivity, then forming a human chain around an inner circle of cubicles around Christmas, singing, "O! Holy Quake, Nailgun Blight" while the wireless components shake Aibo robots about the office flashing their eyes red and green. (Can they do that? Would these folks have any input on this question?)
If anyone does this, please do make an MPEG2/4 of that and post an URL to it on Slashdot! I'd like to see that! 8^]
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Public BetaCalling this a Public Beta was clearly an afterthought. Otherwise, shouldn't that have been mentioned in the readme.
I'm not sure what the rush to get this out the door for the Win clients was. Most people weren't expecting mush from id until closer to the Team Arena laung, right?>
I think a better idea would have been to hold off on any release until the source & multi-platform builds were ALL ready. That way you don't have the Linux/Mac crowd upset for not releasing anything; the Win crowd upset for releasing an upgrade that screws with the mods in ways that the mod builders can't do anything about. Talk about not being able to see the forest from the trees!
Graeme Devine (Designer / Project Manager) says he "thought we'd never get this out the door!" (.plan). Maybe waiting would have been prudent. Also, "Because we've added so much I think we're going to call this a "Public Beta".": do you think or do you know? Which is it?
Well, I hadn't run thru single-player in a while. Guess this was the chance I was looking for?
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Re:Appealing the decision is common sense?If gamers want to be taken seriously, we need to acknowledge that not all games should be played by everyone. [...] By clinging to the notion that all games should be available for everyone, we're forcing developers to only create games that can be sold to anyone -- i.e., kid-friendly games. With a ratings system in place, game manufacturers have the freedom to develop games for any age level, [...]
At first glance, it looks like it might work like this, which would be a good thing. But in reality, it's probably different. Some family-oriented places don't offer restricted media, and if a game gets such a rating, it might not be for sale there. If it's a big shop like Best Buy, EB, etc., the impact on sales would be big. Big enough to make publishers force developers to dumb down their games for kids.
Right now, games are designed for a target audience, and released for everyone to buy. Kids and adults alike. If adult games are only available to adults, while kid games are available to adults and kids, the kid games will be more profitable. Instead of Quake 3: Arena, you'd only get a Nerf ArenaBlast, for example.
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Re:Well look at the games they are selling
There is a Linux version of Q3. Check out the demo here.
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nVidia lied to you.So, you don't care that nVidia used code from an independant developer, made that code available to you, without telling you (or Ralph for that matter) that, now, you have a legal right to their code.
You don't care, because as long as you get your 100 frames per second in Q3A, who cares who else gets screwed, right?
If you don't see what's wrong with this picture, you're not looking hard enough. If Microsoft did this, there would have been a dozen or more lawsuits filed this morning, and you know it.
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Re:Cost for PPC Systems
I have a 1995 mac system that runs Q3A and Q3f just fine. I picked it up for about $200 (just the CPU). I did overclock it but it seems to hold up just fine. I still love my G4 best though for liuxppc and the Mac OS for quake. You can't beat that case, pull a lever, pop in a 40 gig maxtor hard drive, close it up.
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you fail
the homepage for quake is http://www.quake3arena.com, not q3arena.com. Even *I* know that, and I have played quake four times.
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Re:Q3 for Linux?
I wen't looking to the main site of quake3. Quake III Arena Demo for Linux Released - Dec.15.1999 The official Quake III Arena demo for Linux is now available at http://www.quake3arena.com/demo. and that whas the only thing i founded about quake 3 in linux.... so i guess you need to wait...
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Quake 3 A for Windows is on the shelves now
Just FYI: http://www.quake3arena.com/news/index.html
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Re:What is NEW in this Quake?
Answer: Download the demo and find out for yourself.
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More Servers - List from BluesNews
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Servers demo is available on
So far, the list I'm aware of is:www.quake3arena.com (hosed)
fileplanet.com (hosed)
mngamers.com (some speed)
Blues News (some speed)
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ALS: The First Day of ExhibitionsAfter surviving an afternoon at the show floor of the Atlanta Linux Showcase, I figured this would be as good a place as any to post a few thoughts about what I saw...
THE GOOD
- LinuxCare's little bootable Linux recovery CD kicks ass. No bigger than a business card, it fits in the 3" diameter groove in CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive trays and has the potential to save your butt when lilo eats itself. They also had some Linux stickers that now adorn the case of my 386... (Yes, it runs Linux.)
- IBM had a presence. Although certainly not the largest or flashiest booth in the show, Quake 3 on a rather large plasma display attracted lots of attention. Dual PII-400 Intellistation + Voodoo 3 3000 + large plasma display. Mmmmmm. Thanks to the guys there for letting me get some game time on that mammoth thang...
- O'Reilly also had a presence, and their trade show pricing kicks much booty. Picked up a few books for 20% off list and got a shirt to boot...
- Mad props to VA Linux Systems for not only having a cool booth and giving away lots of stuff but for supplying the machines used for public Internet access. Their Debian boxed set is pretty cool and sports Learning Debian GNU/Linux from O'Reilly. (Yes, I was one of the people who stood around in line for ten or fifteen minutes to win this...)
- Thanks to the Sun and Rave Systems folks for all the free stuff. Learn to play Quake 2 without cheating before next year's show...
:-) (Now where's my complimentary Sparc 5?)
THE BAD
- None of the shirts I got fit. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch. I'm 6-foot-3-inches tall and weigh 295 pounds. Show me the big-assed shirts!
- The IBM guys told me that the Showcase had a T-1 connection to the 'Net. I couldn't verify -- the packet loss and latency was horrible on the connection. I'm hoping this is only because lots of geeks were pounding on the connection like a pack of wild monkeys...
- Food choices were few, and lines were long. Within the Galleria, your choices were Subway, some cafe whose name I don't remember, Ruby Tuesday's, and Chick-Fil-A. If you were bold, you could go to the movie theater downstairs and buy a big tub of popcorn. The group I was with walked across the street to another mall and ate at Arby's. Yum... I think.
THE UGLY
- Where the hell were the Slackware people? I wanted Slackware apparel... Hmmph.
- Linux merchandise places came out of the woodworks to hock their goods. Yay capitalism...
- Don't eat at Shoney's. Our group waited over an hour for food before giving up and leaving.
THE REST
- The andover.net/freshmeat.net/slashdot.org booth was smack dab next to the linux.com booth. Taken together, it looked like one big congregation of slackers with laptops. All things considered, however, I wouldn't have minded flopping down on the couch for a rest after walking around for a few hours...
- I will seek revenge against the guy in the Debian shirt who shot me in the arm with a Nerf dart... muahahahaha
- The Debian folks had a Sun Ultra 5 running XaoS, Netscape, and some Tetris clone in separate windows. Just for kicks, I maximized the XaoS window. Can we say slideshow?
- I had nothing interesting enough to trade with the lady at the VA Linux booth, so I didn't get one of those nifty enlightenment shirts. Dammit.
- NetBSD was there. Go figure.
Overall, it was a pretty cool show, but I wish I didn't have the 2-1/2 hour drive. It was put on very professionally and appeared to be very well organized. I was only slightly disappointed that the show wasn't any bigger... The nifty canvas bag attendees got and the included CD made up for that, though.
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Mirror sites are here
If the person who submitted this had bothered to check id's Quake 3 Arena web site, he'd see they already have a nice big list of mirror sites for downloading Q3Test.
That's http://www.quake3arena.com/q3test/mirrors.html