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So I guess something like this won't be sold in the US. Dual SIM phones are quite popular here (India), but they tend to be mostly dumbphones. People use one operator for long distance calls and another for local, or one's a company provided SIM and the other's their personal one, obviating the need to carry 2 phones.

Haven't seen any smartphones with this though - apart from a few no name Chinese ripoffs of Nokia handsets.

First: I personally don't own any Apple products, thus your assertion is wrong.

In fact, here is a comment explaining why I HATE these types of phones, and here is a comment describing the phone that I do own. Yes, it's a simple old Nokia 6303c, with buttons, with camera taken out and with all phone unrelated functions turned off.

Thus I have just proven another AC to be wrong on his assertions. What an accomplishment.

Secondly: the wealth of new ideas that Jobs has generated are more than just the iPhones and iPads and iPods, all that.

He also produced the first computer animated movies, like Toy Story. He basically ensured that Pixar lives.

While you may be in a camp of hating Apple products, you cannot deny, that other products have borrowed extensively from Apple hardware and software solutions, as so many current gadgets look like they might have been created by Apple, and it's not a coincidence. So yes, by saying what you are saying, you are proving to be an idiot, which was my point.

Of-course I was not talking about that kind of idiot, I was more talking about this kind of idiot, but you are almost out there with them.

Many Samsung Android phones (other than SGS/SGS2) have physical buttons - look here. Most ZTE phones also have hard buttons.

Yes, it's just rounded corners, heaven forbid it also be about the fact that Samsung repeatedly steals Apple's UI IP.

like so.

I really don't give a shit anymore about who wins. this isn't apple's first legal wrangling over look and feel, and I don't give a shit if they win or lose.

Reality is, it is inarguable that everyone's rushing to make iPad competitors because the iPad hit it big and to do that they have to steal what made the iPad a success in the first place(minimalist hardware, touch screen UI).

Samsung's idea of a tablet pre-iPad

And of course, post-iPad it looks like a fucking iPad.

the same applies to Galaxy S and Galaxy S2

* I made bold tag error in my previous post :P

This is a major reason that made-me not to buy/use an iPhone up to now (besides the overpriced "behavior" of Apple products): it' too big to fit comfortably on my regular pockets - and that's why I just bought a Galaxy 551

Besides, just look at the Galaxy Tab from the front. It looks almost exactly like an iPad.

It looks like a black rectangle with rounded edges, filled with a touchscreen covered by a panel. This is exactly how all other Honeycomb tablets look - e.g. Xoom looks the same from the front, and so does Asus Transformer. The idea that such a look can be patentable is ridiculous on its face.

For that matter, it quite obviously doesn't look "exactly like an iPad" because it doesn't have the signature hardware home button of the latter. Furthermore, the frontal camera is oriented such that it is centered when the laptop is held in landscape mode (as that is the "default" mode for Honeycomb tablets), whereas on iPad 2 frontal camera is oriented to be used in portrait mode.

They are claiming the rights to a rectangular tablet with a certain, recognizable design.

Can you pinpoint the design element that are part of iPad's "certain, recognizable design" other than "rectangular", "rounded edges", and "full glass cover in front"?

Do you have any facts to back up your claim that Samsung's manufacturing is WORSE than Apple's?

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/aboutus/AboutUs_Profile.html

According to Samsung they have a single IC production facility in China. They also have facilities in Korea and Austin, TX. Does Apple even make anything in the United States anymore?

The point I was making is that even with bad publicity around Foxconn and environmentally destructive manufacturing processes, consumers do not care. Why you turned that into a personal attack is beyond me.

They also rearranged the Galaxy S's home screen so that it'd look more like the iPhone. Apple, I mean, not Samsung.

Go ahead, take a look at the real thing. That looks nothing like an iPhone.

Dear Sherlock:

See the icon on the lower-right corner of the photo you linked to? The blue one labeled "applications". Guess what happens when you press it. You get the App Tray. And as you can see in that video, the app tray not only looks identical but also behaves just like the Home screen in the iPhone, down to the way the folders behave.

Oh, look, there is a Samsung Galaxy S showing the App Tray at the upper-right corner of the webpage you linked to! And it looks just as an iPhone 4! Who would have thunk?

What, this link?

No, not that webpage, but the link itself:

Go back to the page the GP linked showing a Galaxy S II with a very different home screen. Look to the upper-right corner, but don't click anything.

What you see is a purple circle what says Galaxy S WiFi and that shows a Galaxy S that looks exactly like an iPhone 4. Not an iPhone/3G/3Gs, but specifically an iPhone 4. In fact, if it didn't say Galaxy S and was not on Samsung's website I would say it's an iPhone 4. An so would you if you weren't being intensionally obtuse.

What, this link?

No, not that webpage, but the link itself:

Go back to the page the GP linked showing a Galaxy S II with a very different home screen. Look to the upper-right corner, but don't click anything.

What you see is a purple circle what says Galaxy S WiFi and that shows a Galaxy S that looks exactly like an iPhone 4. Not an iPhone/3G/3Gs, but specifically an iPhone 4. In fact, if it didn't say Galaxy S and was not on Samsung's website I would say it's an iPhone 4. An so would you if you weren't being intensionally obtuse.

What, this link?

That looks about as much like an iPhone as my GPS does - which is to say it's a black rectangle with rounded corners that lays out icons in a grid. And uses a USB port rather than some crazy proprietary port that someone made up.

Oh, but unlike my GPS it has a camera in front. I guess Apple must have invented that, because I definitely have never seen a portable device with a camera pointed at the user.

No, wait, I'm wrong. The old Samsung feature phone I used had a user-facing camera. As does my DSi. Both of which were released years before the iPhone 4. My bad.

They also rearranged the Galaxy S's home screen so that it'd look more like the iPhone. Apple, I mean, not Samsung.

Go ahead, take a look at the real thing. That looks nothing like an iPhone.

For one thing, it supports widgets, which the iPhone doesn't. (Apparently the idea that people might want to get weather information on their phone still evades Apple.)

Another good hint is the home button on the screen Apple's using, which probably doesn't appear on the home screen.

They also made the surround on the Tab darker to make it look more like the iPad. Submitting photoshoped images to the court should cost them their case.

Not to mention that the "evidence" shows the Galaxy Tab in a vertical position when the default/intended usage is in a horizontal position.

Exhibit A: Samsungs Galaxy Tab 1.0 microsite: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/10.1/index.html

Exhibit B: Endgadget Galaxy Tab 1.0 review : http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review/

Exhibit C: CNet's review : http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/samsung-galaxy-tab-10/4505-3126_7-34505347.html

... and so on and so on. In fact, IIRC, its predecessors have always been marketed in a default horizontal position, and that's how I've always seen it display at Costco and at tmobile (my cell phone provider).

Call me conspiracy theorist, but this cannot be by accident. Morphed dimensions by itself an accident? Maybe (and that's pushing it). Shown in a vertical position as opposed to the horizontal position it is shown everywhere else as an accident? Maybe. But both, as legal evidence? Got to have been done on purpose.

I believe Samsung Galaxy player may be what you're looking for.

Perhaps his point is you don't have to use special software like Handbrake or buy special cables to use HDMI. All this stuff works out of the box on any Android tablet, including playing any format under the sun.

Since TFA is about the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I have to disabuse you of this notion. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 does not have an HDMI port. According to Samsung, "You can even share Tab content on your HDTV through the Tablet Extender feature—or stream it wirelessly with Allshare" ... but I have no idea what the Tablet Extender feature is, or what Allshare is. Neither is mentioned in the product manual.

Perhaps his point is you don't have to use special software like Handbrake or buy special cables to use HDMI. All this stuff works out of the box on any Android tablet, including playing any format under the sun.

Since TFA is about the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I have to disabuse you of this notion. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 does not have an HDMI port. According to Samsung, "You can even share Tab content on your HDTV through the Tablet Extender feature—or stream it wirelessly with Allshare" ... but I have no idea what the Tablet Extender feature is, or what Allshare is. Neither is mentioned in the product manual.

It's what's inside a Samsung Galaxy S2.

Furthermore, if you don't like the Android model, you don't have to use an Android phone.

There are pros and cons to every model so at the end of it, you have to pick your poison. That's just another way of saying it.

Excuse me while I go spend $600 on a Nexus handset

Samsung: $199 on contract and $549 new. That's something like, oh, let me think, every other single phone on every US carrier in its class!

only to be required to still pay an exorbitant amount for a data plan

Hmmm... pay your $529 at T-Mo and knock ten dollars a month off of any plan because you brought your own phone. Damn if that doesn't bring the total price of phone and service over a two year contract to within a few dollars of what you would have paid had you gotten the phone for 200 dollars and paid the 10 bucks extra monthly for the contract. I think not having a contract for 2 years is worth the 30-40 dollars (give or take taxes, etc.) it comes out to.

Gee, isn't freedom great!

Sure is. Troll on, brother!

Um, this has nothing to do with android phones.... Android is not an Intel based OS

Although you are correct about Android not being an Intel based OS you are incorrect about it being about Android Phones. Samsung is a manufacturer of both Android phones and tablets.

Um, this has nothing to do with android phones.... Android is not an Intel based OS

Although you are correct about Android not being an Intel based OS you are incorrect about it being about Android Phones. Samsung is a manufacturer of both Android phones and tablets.

Ask yourself this simple two-part question:

1. What did Samsung phones look like before January 2007? (Not a perfect negative filter but you can get the idea)
2. What do they look like now?

Similarly, compare tablets before the iPad to what's on the market now.

IANAL but this lawsuit specifically deals with "trade dress" among other things.

A digital TV is a display appliance on which the end user cannot install more applications after buying the device.

Try telling that to Samsung.

I had a longer comment, but my machine crashed before I was able to submit. Just read it back at http://logger.samsung.com/mhassan/20110330log.txt

Hi,

Samsung takes great pride in the stability of its products. Last year during the 3,827,735 hours 28 minutes and 23 second people spend working(*) on Samsung latops of the model you are using there were only 837 crashes in the middle of typing a sentence.

Therefore Samsung decided to investigate the alleged incident. It has been concluded that your Samsung laptop did not crash, you in fact dropped coffee on your laptop computer system. I uploaded the webcam video recording of the event here: http://youtube.com/user/samsung_marketing?video=3aS8W7

Expect to hear from Samsung LTD lawyers as soon as they are done with their case based on data logging done inside a sports car.

*) This figure excludes 723,787,234 hours spend on non-work related activities in general like angry birds, writing erotic transformers fanfiction or in your specific case all those hours you spend on pangolinp0rn.blogspot.com.

Samsung LTD hopes this forum post has been of help, if you have further questions, comments or wish to return you products I dare you to contact the Samsung after sales team by filling out the form at samsung.com/complaints

Standard disclaimer: this forum post is a private trade secret and only intended for the specific recipients it is addressed to. Any attempt to get the text of this message without the express written permission of Samsung LTD will be prosecuted. Samsung has a strict zero tolerance policy on security incidents, expect to be convicted as a north Korean spy.

Privacy waiver: by reading this text you expressly agree that any and all textual,audio and or video data collected can be shared with the Seoul university academy of behavioral sciences, the Korean sexually transmitted infections reporting system and Korea's funniest American home videos.

(Dont worry The submissions to westernamateurpornvids.kr were voted off the site as too much for our delicate Asian sensibilities.)

But now they've got a handful of simple product lines. With all the options, it may seem somewhat complex, but you just have to go to Samsung's cell phone listing page to see what a morass looks like. 183 phones. 183 barely-differentiated products. Nine Android smartphones, what looks like a few dozen feature phones--including those with touch screens--and a whole pile of basic phones. How could any of that be profitable? That's definitely not a business I'd want to be in.

And yet Samsung only had one pad (now two if you count the announced 10") with actually less variations than the iPad. Shouldn't it have been selling better than the iPad?

Your first point is spot on. You could argue that there are actually 18 models of iPad now ([black/white] * [16/32/64 GB] * [wifi/ATT/Verizon]), but they're all just variations on one platform. The great majority of what goes into all of them is identical.
The phone line is similar, and my guess is that it won't be long before the iPod line is streamlined with just the touch and the nano.
Yeah, they make computers, too, and it's a bit more complex, but it's nothing compared to the mid-90s, when it was impossible for a non-geek to be able to determine which system was the best option for their use. I had a Quadra 650 that, when I had a repair done, it came out slower. I looked at the system info, and they'd replaced the motherboard with a Centris 650, with slower CPU, bus and video. Someone less geeky would probably just have chalked it up to their imagination. What hassle.
But now they've got a handful of simple product lines. With all the options, it may seem somewhat complex, but you just have to go to Samsung's cell phone listing page to see what a morass looks like. 183 phones. 183 barely-differentiated products. Nine Android smartphones, what looks like a few dozen feature phones--including those with touch screens--and a whole pile of basic phones. How could any of that be profitable? That's definitely not a business I'd want to be in.

Google did a bang up job kneecapping open source efforts in the mobile space

How so? The Android platform is great for open source, im not sure which open source efforts you're referring to that Google have affected.

Then they sit back and have the nerve to tell us that Android is "open" while users are forced to jailbreak and deal with vendors that try to cripple devices so they can leverage later versions as a selling point for the next carrier contract.

Not sure about the significance of linking to vendors' landing pages but whatever... The fact that vendors lock down the devices isn't anything to do with Android, that's an issue with the vendor. And in the end if you want something that's almost completely open then there's always the N900, that will run just about any linux app you want, but i doubt the average user would choose the N900 over Android.

Then they sit back and have the nerve to tell us that Android is "open" while users are forced to jailbreak and deal with vendors that try to cripple devices so they can leverage later versions as a selling point for the next carrier contract.

Not quite forced. Agreed that this ability to gain root access should be mandatory across the platform, but at least Google is doing the right thing in this case, and publicly defending it too.

Google did a bang up job kneecapping open source efforts in the mobile space, convincing the community to chase after an environment that discarded pretty much every existing open source tool in the name of NIH and withholds new versions from the community until their partners are done getting their releases out with it.

Then they sit back and have the nerve to tell us that Android is "open" while users are forced to jailbreak and deal with vendors that try to cripple devices so they can leverage later versions as a selling point for the next carrier contract.

I hope that MeeGo takes off with non-asshole hardware vendors, if not the we might as well right off the mobile computing space as being property of Microsoft, Apple, and Google.

This one is one that that gets to use the Android marketplace.

But is there a market for small handheld computers without cell phone capability? Google doesn't seem to think so, or it'd have licensed the Android Market application to Archos.

May I introduce you to the Samsung Galaxy Tab?

Also, I doubt that 3D will cause "lazy eye", which is amblyopia. I do know that children with strabismus, such as my daughter, should not watch 3D movies because of the problems with depth perception that is induced by the artificial 3D effect.

Hey .. shit for brains ..

Show me where I can download and compile my own version of htc sense ?? Or the 2.1 package that sprint just pushed ... Or any of the manufacturers specialized versions.

Come on .. please .. show me , I would love to see it.

Stock froyo (which is what my phone runs): http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

And this is where you get Samsung's froyo mod: http://opensource.samsung.com/ (search for i900 under mobile )

And this is where you get the source for the HTC phones: http://developer.htc.com/

I guess you love to see that?

Unless you can do that , your comment about the OS being open source so you can check it , is just stupid.

Even if you were right about manufacturers releasing the source, my point about stock android being open would still completely valid. Parent said it was google that made them so nervous. Sense, motoblur, and other android mods were written by hardware companies. And if your hardware manufacturer wants to snoop on you, they don't have to modify the OS. Which was, of course, my actual point.

Shit for brains.

> However, in my opinion, Windows Phone 7 will not be able to kill off the iPhone
> because it's missing too much core functionality (copy/paste and I believe
> secure Exchange support) but it is still a step up from WM 6.5.
And what about breaking microSD cards? See http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=558&AT_ID=344529 Yup, stick a microSD in a Win7 phone, and it's unreadeable, *AND UNFORMATTABLE* by any other device. That alone is a reason not to buy Win7 phones.

Sure you can! Here is one model http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/pc-peripherals-printer/notebook/n-series/NP-N148-DP05IN/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification In Delhi, the Samsung N148 is selling like hot cakes. It comes with DOS, hence lowest priced. People buy it and put Ubuntu or pirated Windows XP on it :-) I personally know 6 people who use it with Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Edition.

I use an iPhone 3G and I can tell you with 100% certainty that it pisses me off. For a while, something would end up running on it even with no applications open that would cause it to heat up to be hot to the touch and have about 1.5 hours of battery life. I constantly have basic applications like Google maps crash on it. My battery is getting worn and there is no easy way to swap it out. And more damning than anything else, the cell reception sucks. And before you blame my phone network, my other phone is also on AT&T, so I have something to directly compare it against. How can somebody sell a phone that costs hundreds of dollars that can't even do well the one thing all phones should unequivocally be able to do? I shouldn't have to switch to my Samsung phone that came free with service to make a phone call.

I can't confirm if this really is a fix, but it claims to be. That Samsung has release a firmware update that fixes the GPS issue. Per the link the update is being pushed over the next few weeks, posted 6 days ago, so it's not been weeks yet.\

http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=558&AT_ID=339171

I bought one a few weeks ago. (It comes with a free Blu-Ray, 2 extra glasses and a movie, see http://www.samsung.com/au/promotions/tv-av/footy_final/index.html )

Folks in the USA may be surprised to hear I'm located in Australia, and in a regional area that doesn't even do 3D broadcasts (since we're all behind the times down under). So why would I buy such a TV?

Ironically, I decided it was the TV I wanted despite the fact that it had no '3D' branding whatsoever in the store, and the sales guy didn't mention it. The reason I chose that model (58" Plasma) was value for money (size, picture quality, wireless, MKV support).

Here in Aus, non-3D TVs are slowly being phased out - you almost can't buy a TV over 55 inches without it. So basically we're being railroaded into buying 3D, despite the fact that the majority of 3D content is only available on Blu-Ray.

Oh, and I was really surprised to see how good DVD looks, especially with motion-smoothing turned on.

I was a little bummed at the thought of re-buying my only-just-purchased copies of Star Wars, Indiana Jones etc DVDs in Blu-Ray - but I have to say that the picture quality is much, much better than just "good enough"; I'm sure your average punter wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.

Don't get me wrong - I was sold on the TV's ability to push 1080p (Sintel looks incredible on it) but it's not enough to make me re-buy my DVD library.

They have a HexHD "monitor" now for $AU4K. Nowhere near the same as the Quad HD given that the bezels are there ... getting smaller, but there.

Need multiple graphics cards or an ati eyefinity to push the pixels.

linky

http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/pc-peripherals-printer/monitor/lcd-monitor/LS30HUXCB/XSA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail

See also: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=2560x1600+LCD

I'm guessing you haven't looked in a while.

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors?prd_ia_url_name_path=computer|monitors&landing_yn=N&sort_type=&b2b_b2c_typ_cd=B2C

2 1920x1200 monitors vs 31 1920x1080 monitors.

1920x1080 WAS a TV resolution, but it's not the de facto monitor resolution, unfortunately. Hence the article, dumbass.

Motion has 3 models available:

http://www.motioncomputing.com/

There's the Archos 9:

http://www.archos.com/products/tw/archos_9/index.html?country=us&lang=en

and the Samsung Q1EX:

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP-Q1EX-FA01US

and the Panasonic Toughbook is available as a slate.

Sadly, Fujitsy quit making slates though (perhaps they'll go back to making them?) --- interestingly the selection of Windows slates has gotten so low that some people who want a larger format slate are purchasing the Axiotron Modbook (a converted Mac laptop) and installing Windows on it.

William

GT-I9000_OpenSource.zip on opensource.samsung.com

190.09 x 120.45 x 11.98 mm. 380 g

My Samsung TV can read every codec I've given it. You can grab the manual here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/UN40C7000WFXZA
Page 40 lists the available codec support.
Page 20 explains how the 3D feature works.

Your confusion about which codec to use might be because the content you produce (just like anaglyph content) is a 2D video. A "Side by Side" video, as played in VLC, will just look like 2 2D images playing next to each other - because that's all it is. People use mkvmerge to take the left eye and right eye and composite them together, literally next to each other. Unfortunately I have not found a simple to use tool that will convert between 3D formats - only tools that will stream.

Here's how it works from a customer's (me) perspective:
when I plug a USB stick in with a 3D mkv file
I start the Media Play feature
I browse to the movie I want and hit play
I pause the movie
I hit the 3D button on my remote control
The TV asks me which format the movie is in, either "Side by Side" or "Top-Bottom", or "2D -> 3D" (which is for 2D content).
I select the appropriate format, so far most content I've found is "Side by Side".
I put my glasses on.
I hit play (because I paused it before because turning on 3D takes a few moments).
Done.

If there's a way to inform the TV that the content is 3D, I have not yet found it. Although, the manual mentions this feature:
        "3D Auto View (Off / On): If 3D Auto View is set to On, a “Side-by-Side” format HDMI signal with one of the resolutions below is automatically switched to 3D. Here, correct 3D information must be sent from the Standard HDMI 3D Format.
          If a 3D failure occurs due to a 3D information error, set 3D Auto View to Off and manually select a 3D Mode using the 3D button or corresponding menu.
          Support resolution (16:9 only)
        1280 x 720p 60 Hz
        1920 x 1080i 60 Hz
        1920 x 1080p 24 / 30 / 60 Hz"

I'd be more than happy to help you test out your video files. You can email me. My slashdot username and my yahoo email account share the same handle.

I have a friend with the Nvidia setup and he can view pretty much all the 3D content that I've found. I have to use stereoscopic player, outputting a signal to my TV, in order to view other formats than the 2 I listed. And of course, Stereoscopic player will convert pretty much any format to any other format (except anaglyph formats can only be a target, not an input format).

Here's some sample 3D content you can compare with:
http://www.3dtv.at/Movies/Index_en.aspx
One caveat, I haven't actually tested that content on my TV. Most of it probably works fine, although some might be too high a resolution to support using Media Play - but I can play those from my Mac outputting over HDMI (but that's more annoying than Media Play).
Joseph Elwell.

"Apple is using Samsung's processor"

Not quite that simple. Both the Apple A4 and Samsung's own version (which seem to be practically the same chips (*)) were co-developed by Samsung and Intrinsity and Intrinsity was absorbed by Apple earlier this year.

So technically, they are using processors which are co-developed between them (and manufactured by Samsung).

(*) Samsung has upgraded the PowerVR part in their version of the chip for the Galaxy S.

Galaxy S phones can connect to a TV using an HDMI or composite adapter.

Is it out of the realm of possibility for the tablet to have the same connection options?

Galaxy S phones can connect to a TV using an HDMI or composite adapter.

Is it out of the realm of possibility for the tablet to have the same connection options?

It is also possible that you could have a device with an HD screen, but not the capability to watch HD movies.

Right, for example, it would be reeeeaaaally cheap if they gave you a screen with HD definition (and advertised as such) but the graphics chip couldn't churn that many pixels, or if the CPU+GPU choked on common codecs at those sizes. A single HD image != "HD screen for video."

However, in this case, I believe the GPU has full HW support for several video codecs. (This, of course, is assuming Wikipedia has got the details correct!)

Here you go.