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For an interesting perspective, check out the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, of course it's biased, but it breaks down the absurdities, contradictions, and logical fallacies pretty thoroughly on a verse-by-verse basis. For added fun, check out the Quran and the Book of Mormon.

For an interesting perspective, check out the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, of course it's biased, but it breaks down the absurdities, contradictions, and logical fallacies pretty thoroughly on a verse-by-verse basis. For added fun, check out the Quran and the Book of Mormon.

wooohooooo bible quotes. Old testament even. I'll Play.

Leviticus hmmmm I'll first few. Its all about animal sacrifice. Pure Satanic crap (Bow down to Set i tell ya) if you ask me i mean read this:
"3:5 And Aaron's sons shall burn it on the altar upon the burnt sacrifice, which is upon the wood that is on the fire: it is an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD." Creepy I tell ya.

And what about this?
"3:16 And the priest shall burn them upon the altar: it is the food of the offering made by fire for a sweet savour: all the fat is the LORD's." mmmmmmm fat *drool*

And yes, before anyone ask, I am going through the Skeptics Annotated bible. (skepticsan...dbible.com ??? nice abbreviation slash) Let us continue

26:16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. The bible says everyone must get stoned

-Your friendly neighborhood Anonymous Cowper's Gland

ps, my spell checker tells me curseth is spelled wrong. should be curse th . Take that Left hand of God bible writers!
pps this is not a troll

Food for thought:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.htm l

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image.

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them.... And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Oh come on...please. All versions of the bible and all translations contain errors and contradictions within themselves.

Here are a list of just a few hundred from the King James version of the bible.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.h tml

The same goes for the Qur'an and Torah...

Belief in a deity is irrational...

This is what Nick Gisburne's video response page says in the sidebar:

IMPORTANT NOTE

You may be picked up on this if you don't read the following. The quotes I used are taken from this page:

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelt y/long.html

The Skeptic's Annotated Quran abbreviates the long, flowery language of the Quran into more legible, easily digestible form. Thus it is not strictly verbatim, but it IS a valid translation. It is NOT a commentary, nor is it a distortion of the content of the Quran. For example:

Qur'an says:
As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom.

The text in the video (and SAQ) is:
Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom

The meaning is the same. I point this out because I do say in my video I used the text taken directly from the Qur'an, where in fact I used the text from the SAQ, but I still stand by the fact that this video shows 'Islamic Teachings: Cruelty From The Qur'an'

In case people are curious about where the bible makes such a silly claim, check out the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, it's hours of fun!

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/is/11.html#12
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dan/4.html#10

In case people are curious about where the bible makes such a silly claim, check out the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, it's hours of fun!

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/is/11.html#12
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dan/4.html#10

I'd like them to at least be self-consistent. For example, do as their bible instructs and kill any of their followers who doesn't keep their sabbath, and to excommunicate anyone who has sex when the woman is on her period http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/sex_menst ruate.html

I see nobody has collected on the $1 million dollar offer to prove that Jesus isn't the son of the Flying Spaghetti Monster ...

Friday, August 19, 2005 Boing Boing's $250,000 Intelligent Design challenge (UPDATED: $1 million) Yesterday, I posted an item to Boing Boing about the growing popularity of Pastafarianism, a new religion that worships Flying Spaghetti Monster, initially created to protest the Kansas State School Board's decision to teach "Intelligent Design" in schools.

In regards to your sig:

"Mary had a little lamb, the doctor was surprised. When Old McDonald had a farm, the poor guy nearly died."

Mary had a little sheep,
And with that sheep she went to sleep ...
The sheep turned out to be a ram -
Mary had a little lamb, ...

The Bible says you are supposed to murder homosexuals and misbehaved children. (This is just getting started, by the way. I am in too much a hurry to find references where God commands the murder those who worship other gods or those work on the Sabbath.) Do not say you actually do what the Bible states you should do because I am sure you are far too moral to even contemplate enacting its numerous violent precepts.

On a lighter note, some have written up ideas on how to make the Left Behind games more violent, based on the contents of the Bible. Enjoy!

The Bible says you are supposed to murder homosexuals and misbehaved children. (This is just getting started, by the way. I am in too much a hurry to find references where God commands the murder those who worship other gods or those work on the Sabbath.) Do not say you actually do what the Bible states you should do because I am sure you are far too moral to even contemplate enacting its numerous violent precepts.

On a lighter note, some have written up ideas on how to make the Left Behind games more violent, based on the contents of the Bible. Enjoy!

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/long.htm l

What method do you employ to determine which parts of the bible are to be read literally, and which parts are not? More specifically, why do most moderate Christians like (I presume) yourself interpret Genesis as metaphore, but the miracles performed by Jesus as literal truth?

Your response is similar to, but more in-depth than the first response, yet still avoids my question. I agree the Bible is a collection of works, some obviously meant to be artistic and others fact, but that does not tell us how know which are history and which are poetry. What defines the marker that separates the myth part of Genesis with the historical account of the Jews? By what standards do we use? Do we go by intuition? Or do we mark sections as allegorical based on their evident absurdity?

If it is the former, than we are in the same quandry as before: the Bible ultimately means nothing because it is up to you and I to determine which parts we should take seriously and which we should laugh at. (This has another implication in that it shows morality does not come from scripture, but I digress.) The second reply to my original post delves into why this is silly and foolish quite well.

Now, if it is the latter, then it is only a matter of time before the entire Bible is used as a work of enterainment or curiosity, just as the Egyptian Book of the Dead or the Upanishads or any other ancient religious work. People used to believe the earth was 10,000 years old, created in seven days. We now know this to be false. People used to believe you could fit two of every species onto a single boat. That is also beyond being taken seriously. The Bible tells us the bat is a type of bird. The list of verifiably untrue statements in the Bible goes on and it is only a matter of time before sciences of geology, astronomy, physics, and even ethics show that none of it is meant to be taken literally.

Two marginal remarks cover cases like Abraham and Isaac, and Revelations. In the cases of near sacrificing your son or daughter to your god, it does not matter if the story is meant to be taken literally or not. Such stories are hideous and are best rejected outright. Then for the matter of Revelations, one can only imagine what mind altering substances the authors were using to concoct dragons with 7 heads and 10 horns and the idea that Jesus will bring death by a sword coming out of his mouth. I suppose it is clear we are not meant to take this part literally?

But then again, how do we know that?

If want a good chuckle, you don't need to go much further than Genisis.

> The thing is, the snake is by no means a uniformly malign figure in mythology. Quite the opposite; they are often beneficent.
> ...
> Our way of looking at these stories, Genesis in particular, has been diminished by religious ideology. To the point that those of us raised in the Judeo-Christian tradition think nothing is more natural than to hate and revile snakes.
> ...
> ...it is certainly not the case the myth and religion can be used to show an atavistic revulsion to snakes that may have an evolutionary basis.

Those are all good points you brought up. It's been my understanding that the Judeo-Christian animosity towards the snake was a direct and deliberate response to its prominent role in competing religions as a positive symbol (for example, the belief systems of ancient Egypt), and historically the followers of the "I Am That I Am" deity were not known for their tolerance of other faiths:

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/int/long.htm l

Interestingly, the biblical commandment that states "Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth" (Deuteronomy 5:8) spells out this unyielding hostility, only it covers more than just snakes -- which can slither on "the earth beneath" or swim "in the waters" (or perhaps even exist "in heaven above" if we include flying dragons). This almost certainly was meant to target the central practice of so-called "heathen" and "pagan" religions, which focused their worship activities on literal "graven images" or other physical, sacred icons of their gods.

Come to think of it, when you combine the above with the Christian gimmick of scheduling their holidays to coincide with -- and eventually preempt -- pagan celebrations (e.g. Easter and the spring/fertility rites), it bears an uncanny resemblance to the general business practice of Microsoft: embrace, extend, exterminate!

Whoa.... Scary.

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Please, tell me!

I'd really love to see it in black and white.

I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.

On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

Sorry, I'm

Well, I used to argue a lot with a Christian friend about morality, science, sex, etc... We used to stall. But recently I have read the Bible. This book is just great! whatever your opinion on any issue, you will find a reference backing you!

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ is a good tool too.

WTF? Will everyone applying for a job have to give a DNA sample, or forget about the job? I'm not a religious nut, but this immediately sprang to mind:

From Skeptic's Annotated Bible.
Rev. 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Will an DNA fingerprint be "the mark" without which no one may buy or sell?

Absolutely. Don't forget the sections about gang banging virgin daughters, threesomes and incest, to name a few interesting passages... ;)

Absolutely. Don't forget the sections about gang banging virgin daughters, threesomes and incest, to name a few interesting passages... ;)

Absolutely. Don't forget the sections about gang banging virgin daughters, threesomes and incest, to name a few interesting passages... ;)

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ is a more interesting one.

Well, no. For the foods, see

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/11.html

This is prefixed with

11:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.

So it is religious law, which we are bound to yadda yadda, so all seafood lovers are screwed. There's plenty of silly laws all over the place, and I kinda doubt Jesus handed out a list saying which passages were repealed.

It makes some amusing observations on the literal meaning of Genisis :)

I'm an atheist as well, and when I read 1 Corinthians 7, I see that Paul indicates that this is his opinion and not God's command. So, yes, the Christian bible does make mention of this, but it is not divine instruction.

1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
Uh, the moon is not an independent light source, don't you think god would know that?
And he spent "7 days" creating the earth but creates trillions of stars as an afterthought? Isn't it also a bit odd that the sun was not created before earth?
Referring to the sun as "a big light in the sky" rather than the very large object the earth revolves around sounds more like that arrogant mantra of the people of that time than the word of god.
There was no mention of the core of the earth either, the entire description is just an oversimplification of the way humans at that time viewed the earth. It sounds to me like the person that wrote that section (Genesis 1) thought earth was the center of the universe, don't you think this is something GOD should know is not true?

Also, based on this description, the earth is at least 4 days older than every other star in the universe. We may not have absolute proof of the "Big Bang" but I am pretty sure it would be much less difficult to prove the earth did not exist before the rest of the universe.

Has anyone ever investigated the bible for errors against when we now consider fact today?

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ (note there's a lot of far-fetched "errors" in there, but there's also a lot of true factual and logical contradictions)

Or do they keep editing them out in new revisions?

Not really, but (in Dutch at least) the newer translations tend to be somewhat friendlier in tone in the parts about women being submissive to men, etc.

Blame is a very old thing, that works pretty good. It shifts the focus of attention, just like the parent said.

I'm not a bible thumper by any stretch of the imagination, its just that I know the bible better than any other religious text (I grew up in a "Christian" environment, whatever that means).

The Adam and Eve, Garden of Eden story is excellent. Its very much worth a read, and much of what it says is still true to this day. Take a look at: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/3.html#1 2

Where Adam blames Eve who blames the serpent for eating from the forbidden tree of knowledge.

Serpent gets punished. Eve gets "burdened"/punished, and Adam is stuck with them the rest of his time with no additional punishment :)

In fact, psychologists call the term for blame as "blame avoidance". I believe the term speaks for itself. If you come from an acronym or abbreviation background like computers or the military, you can call it BA, so that it sounds better, and confuses people with all of the other BA abbreviations in the world.

Teachings have strayed far from what the prophet Mohammad wrote

#6 Thou shalt not kill

#7 Thou shalt not commit adultery (cheat on my wife)

Since the bible contains plenty of examples of sympathetic godly characters killing and fucking around its credibility as a moral manifesto is pretty thin.

If you pay attention to the fine print, it's actually "do not kill - unless they're from an enemy nation, or they work on Sunday (or maybe Saturday?), or they're an unfaithful woman, or a fag, or worship a different god, or unless the voices in your head tell you to, or ...." This sounds more like the code of a death cult than anything I'd like my children involved with.

So, yeah, the bible's great, as long as you abbreviate it down to a few dot points we could probably all agree on anyhow.

#6 Thou shalt not kill

#7 Thou shalt not commit adultery (cheat on my wife)

Since the bible contains plenty of examples of sympathetic godly characters killing and fucking around its credibility as a moral manifesto is pretty thin.

If you pay attention to the fine print, it's actually "do not kill - unless they're from an enemy nation, or they work on Sunday (or maybe Saturday?), or they're an unfaithful woman, or a fag, or worship a different god, or unless the voices in your head tell you to, or ...." This sounds more like the code of a death cult than anything I'd like my children involved with.

So, yeah, the bible's great, as long as you abbreviate it down to a few dot points we could probably all agree on anyhow.

The Bible is full of horrible violence. Many people who've read it throughtout history have been influenced to do terrible things to people. I think the CDC should look into the effects the Bible has on young children.

At the the very least Bibles should come with a graphic violence warning.

Or not

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/proph/long.h tml

What does that leave, exactly?

Or, I could just, you know, decide for myself what is right, based on my experiences and readings, and believe in reality, rather than thousands of year old mythologies because hank told me to.

What does that leave, exactly?

Or, I could just, you know, decide for myself what is right, based on my experiences and readings, and believe in reality, rather than thousands of year old mythologies because hank told me to.

What does that leave, exactly?

Or, I could just, you know, decide for myself what is right, based on my experiences and readings, and believe in reality, rather than thousands of year old mythologies because hank told me to.

What does that leave, exactly?

Or, I could just, you know, decide for myself what is right, based on my experiences and readings, and believe in reality, rather than thousands of year old mythologies because hank told me to.

What does that leave, exactly?

Or, I could just, you know, decide for myself what is right, based on my experiences and readings, and believe in reality, rather than thousands of year old mythologies because hank told me to.

Wrong. There are no true christians who would threaten such violence. By definition, zero. Because clearly this would distinguish these people as people who do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

And yet the likes of Fred Phelps will claim, using the exact same reference material, that you cannot be a true Christian if you don't hate homosexuals and muslims.

See No True Scotsman fallacy.

Jesus Christ taught us to turn the other cheek - ref, to not resist an evil person - ref, , and that those who live by the sword will die by the sword - ref. Pretty simple test really.

Jesus Christ also fully endorsed the barbaric cruelty of the old testament ref

He came "not to send peace, but a sword", to set families against each other ref

He questioned the Pharisees as to why they did not uphold the law of God by their tradition, the law in question being "Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." ref

Jesus will "take vengeance on them that know not God" ref (by burning them in everlasting fire, as it happens)

Plenty more here, and to pre-empt any cries of foul play, yes, the references I have linked here are to the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, however, it is simply a perfectly ordinary KJV. It just has extra annotations. If you feel happier using biblegateway or some other web reference for the KJV feel free.