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The site which describes the two time zone solution in detail is: http://www.standardtime.com/ I think it would be a great solution and even have written letters to my senators and congressman about it. Of course, I got crickets. We're only on Standard Time for about 4 months a year now... at the very least just leave everything at DST year around. I especially dislike the fact that in the dead of winter the sun sets in SoCal at about 16:30... seriously?

There is actually a website with a proposal getting rid of the time change which seems fairly well thought out and logical: http://www.standardtime.com/pr...

Not a bad idea IMHO, and it gets rid of the jarring reset of clocks twice a year:
http://www.standardtime.com/

can we get rid of daylight savings time!??

http://www.standardtime.com/

Here's my favorite anti-daylight savings time page:

End Day Light Savings Time

I don't like Daylight Saving Time, or as I call it "Pretend it's an hour later than it is," and will be glad when the clock in my car doesn't make me do addition to remember what time it is (I refuse to adjust it for this nonsense.) This silly dance we do every year twice.

My alarm clock is a self-adjusting atomic model (not internally of course, it readjusts itself via radio signal from the U.S. Atomic Clock in Colorado).

STANDARDTIME.COM SAYS: If we are saving energy let's go year round with Daylight Savings Time. If we are not saving energy let's drop Daylight Savings Time!

Enough of this daylight time, reset-the-clocks insanity. Just stop the madness.

My understanding is that this would only be true if it were year round. Accidents increase on both the days that we spring forward (less sleep) and the days that we fall back (interruption in our "circadian rhythms").

Of course, it turns out that it might not even save lives if year round (search for "school bus accidents").

No, DST has nothing to do with farming. Farmers don't give a squat about the clock. The sun rises when it does and sets when it does. Artificial means of tracking it won't change it.

However, DST _was_ implemented during WWI to conserve energy. Once the war was over, DST was no longer nationally observed. Then it was observed again during WWII for much the same reason. But when that war ended, we didn't switch back.

http://www.standardtime.com/

What would disrupt Wall Street and global economics? Doing away with DST? Or changing DST? Or not changing DST? I didn't argue for any of those things. I just said that the fact that our government cares at all about DST is amazing. Like I said, moving the clocks one way or the other has no effect on the number of light hours in a day. If that's not obvious, then you are the moron.

It may have been true, back when DST was first introduced, that just about all businesses operated on a 8-5 work day, but that's hardly the case today. And there are many, many other arguments against DST. Here's a good starting point: http://www.standardtime.com/

http://www.standardtime.com/proposal.shtml Check out the proposed replacement for daylight saving time, which also shrinks the number of timezones in the continental US from 4 to 2. It seems to make a lot more sense overall than what we have now...

Nonsense. Farmers are against daylight saving time because they do everything by the sun. They start when the sun rises, and stop when it goes down, regardless of what time it is. A clock that jumps back and forth twice a year is an unnecessary complication that forces them to juggle their schedule when delivering crops to clock-bound businesses. Daylight saving time was instituted regionally in WWI and then made national in WW2 as an energy saving scheme.

Sheila Danzig has a clever suggestion. The Pacific and Central time zones should remain on daylight saving time, and the Mountain and Eastern time zones should remain on standard time. This would effectively reduce the number of time zones in the continental United States from four to two, it would reduce the time difference between the coasts, and it would end the pointless fiddling with clocks.

You know, being somewhat pedantic, I always wondered.... if you can't feed them after midnight, when can you START feeding them the next day?

And how do they handle daylight savings time and moving between time zones? I mean, the notion of DST is really an invented thing with absolutely no bearing on "real" time (i.e. the position of the sun in the sky at a given moment in time) and it should be banned.

So this is not a Rube Goldberg device, it is a piece of conservation technology :-)

Why not eliminate the Rube Goldberg device and get to the root of the problem: Eliminate DST

• Farmers hate it. It greatly screws with them having to get up with the sun, then deal with customers that arbitrarily go against nature's clock by an hour.
• Night shift hates it. It effectively screws those on third watch out of an hour of pay in the spring, and keeps them on an extra hour in the fall. This confuses some payroll departments, too.
• Public safety really hates it. Police, security, fire and ambulance crews working on spring ahead and fall back end up having to try and deal with trying to log events on an hour that happens twice or get an odd hour-long gap when trying to write reports. The time change also adds to fatigue making these folks less effective late in the shift during the fall back. If you think I'm ranting, you should spend the timeshift nights with the third watch in an emergency room and listen to the ER staff and arriving ambulance crews cursing it like drunk sailors.
• Public welfare takes a back seat for a week after the change. The University of British Columbia did a study on daylight savings time shifts on traffic. Accidents were more frequent for the first week after the time change, especially on the following Monday morning, with epsilon difference in driver safety the rest of the time.
• 1945 was almost 60 years ago. Japan was nuked, Hitler shot himself in the head, and modern technology makes artificial lighting economical. Factories aren't working overtime to increase production to fight the most expensive wars ever fought (after adjusting for inflation) and haven't done so since the end of World War II, and even if they were, not many factories are primarily lit with skylights anymore.

So given the added risks of DST-lagged public behind the wheel, a fatigued public safety sector cleaning up after it, and the farmers that feed us having to go out of thier way to get the food out, not to mention the abovementioned problems with historical clocks breaking when they go to lag or jog them an hour, can society really afford to continue using DST in the long term?

Okay, this has to be the absolutey most assinine thing I've done on Slashdot, but I've gotta do it.

It's daylight saving time, not daylight savings time. NIST says so.

Anyway, if it were up to me, we wouldn't have daylight saving at all.