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That's not a Trump problem, that's a media problem. More so that media are chasing that "always first" "always sweet-sweet ad revenue" and so on. Welcome to the shitshow that always-on 24hr news media has created, and welcome to the ever increasing irrelevance that the news media has helped create. It also doesn't help that there is very low public trust of the media in general, or that when people point out that they have indeed fucked up, engaged in unethical practices, or whatever else. The media's response is to screech "IT'S NOT US! IT'S YOU!" Queue this up with Journolist, Gamejournopros and so on all pushing narritives, talking points, and so on. Or media outlet's directly handing off their news stories to political parties to make sure that the "story narrative is correct."

Remember when the FBI couldn't find any harassment from Gamergate? Me too. Remember when Quinn's little organization turned around and was harassing people and doxing them? Me too. Remember when all those SJW's(by their own definition) she supported tried doxing people too and one of the key people in her "anti-harassment" organization were caught being the ringleaders of it? Yep me too.

Seems to me you need to start growing up, in nearly 3 years and copious amounts of proof you're hanging onto that "harassment narrative" pretty hard.

That's okay, when a group of journalists are having a talk about the ethical problems of game journalists, and they get a threat and the building has to be evacuated it doesn't even make the news. But so far there are 20+ articles about this already. There possibly couldn't be an agenda here right? Or that they all came out mere hours within one another.

Kinda...funny isn't it?
Verge: https://archive.is/oPhzJ

Recode: https://archive.is/CsPAb

Motherboard: https://archive.is/9oM4o

Techraptor: http://techraptor.net/content/...

Kotaku: https://archive.is/e1xwK

Gamasutra: https://archive.is/QYNkB

KeyeTV: https://archive.is/cKcLx

Gamespot: https://archive.is/QYNkB

BleedingCool: https://archive.is/Wtpxb

Polygon: https://archive.is/l8vpD

Fusion: https://archive.is/zX39U

Austin360: https://archive.is/GXYap

The Verge: https://archive.is/oPhzJ

TheOuthousers: https://archive.is/R5kPl

Bits NYTimes: https://archive.is/5wR5Y

Arstechnica: https://archive.is/JLsE2

Mashable: https://archive.is/LQMGq

Slate: https://archive.is/bjRO3

Engadget: https://archive.is/THkXN

Jezebel: https://archive.is/iQg6P

KVUE: https://archive.is/p41HD

Nice try. "Thanks to gamergate", three women have been forced from their homes from threats that law enforcement officers found credible enough to suggest that. Trying to pretend that gamergate has done anything but abuse people defines you as - at best - an imbecile.

It causes you physical pain that few here buy into the "mysogyny and harrassment" narrative, doesn't it?

The cover-up didn't work.
The week-long gaming press news blackout and ongoing user comment/forum censorship (in former free-speech strongholds such as 4chan and Reddit, no less) didn't work.
The coordinated, ongoing smear campaign that began with the "Gamers are Over" articles hasn't worked.
The endless train of embarrassingly desperate counter-hashtags hasn't worked.
The Wikipedia and Nightline hit pieces only damage those outlets' credibility for short-term effect.
The SVU episode . . . hahaahhahaha WOW, where do I even begin . . . it is progapanda that couldn't be more precisely crafted to the corrupt press's specifications (i.e. "narrative"), and broadcast to a national non-gamer audience, much of which likely accepted it as reality. It was a wake-up call to quite a few previously unaware or neutral parties, especially game devs*.

Eurogamer is the latest games journalism site to update its ethics policy in the wake of Gamergate, joining PC Gamer, IGN, the Escapist, and of course Kotaku/Gawker (though in Gawker's case, they put up more of a fight and the Gamergate pressure to be ethical had to be routed through the FTC).

Gamergate also got Brad Wardell (CEO of Stardock) some long-overdue apologies for hit pieces run against him:
https://twitter.com/iamDavidWi...
http://www.gamepolitics.com/20...
http://www.zenofdesign.com/in-...

Ask yourself how much of this you've seen reported in the corrupt media (which at this point, sadly, clearly includes Slashdot). Of course none of it ever had a chance of appearing in the Wikipedia article. Nothing enrages anti-Gamergaters more than someone covering both sides of the story, and that should tell you something.

Their side thrives only in an environment of propaganda and censorship, and evaporates when faced with integrity and transparency. They prove the need for Gamergate every time they write an article based on the assumption that terrorism and child porn^W^W^W^W misogyny and harassment have become the root passwords to the Constitution^W^W journalistic ethics.


* like Mark Kern and Ken Levine, who had nothing to do with Gamergate, but were so disgusted by the SVU episode that they publically called on the gaming press to stop slandering gamers. Both were instantly swarmed by anti-GG on twitter, and VG24/7 ran a hit piece on Kern without even getting his side of the story, and refused even after he specifically asked them. I think Eurogamer saw exactly what happened to Kern, and it's no accident that tha

The cover-up didn't work.
The week-long gaming press news blackout and ongoing user comment/forum censorship (in former free-speech strongholds such as 4chan and Reddit, no less) didn't work.
The coordinated, ongoing smear campaign that began with the "Gamers are Over" articles hasn't worked.
The doxxing and harassment of pro-GG folks hasn't worked.
The endless train of embarrassingly desperate counter-hashtags hasn't worked.
The Wikipedia and Nightline hit pieces only damage those outlets' credibility for short-term effect.
The SVU episode . . . hahaahhahaha WOW, where do I even begin . . . it is progapanda that couldn't be more precisely crafted to the corrupt press's specifications (i.e. "narrative"), and broadcast to a national non-gamer audience, much of which likely accepted it as reality. It was a wake-up call to quite a few previously unaware or neutral parties, especially game devs*.

Eurogamer is the latest games journalism site to update its ethics policy in the wake of Gamergate, joining PC Gamer, IGN, the Escapist, and of course Kotaku/Gawker (though in Gawker's case, they put up more of a fight and the Gamergate pressure to be ethical had to be routed through the FTC). And there are probably more I'm forgetting.

Gamergate also got Brad Wardell (CEO of Stardock) some long-overdue apologies for hit pieces run against him:
https://twitter.com/iamDavidWi...
http://www.gamepolitics.com/20...
http://www.zenofdesign.com/in-...

Ask yourself how much of this you've seen reported in the corrupt media (which at this point, sadly, clearly includes Slashdot). Of course none of it ever had a chance of appearing in the Wikipedia article. Nothing enrages anti-Gamergaters more than someone covering both sides of the story, and that should tell you something.

Their side thrives only in an environment of propaganda and censorship, and evaporates when faced with integrity and transparency. They prove the need for Gamergate every time they write an article based on the assumption that terrorism and child porn^W^W^W^W misogyny and harassment have become the root passwords to the Constitution^W^W journalistic ethics.


* like Mark Kern and Ken Levine, who had nothing to do with Gamergate, but were so disgusted by the SVU episode that they publically called on the gaming press to stop slandering gamers. Both were instantly swarmed by anti-GG on twitter, and VG24/7 ran a hit piece on Kern without even getting his side of the story, and refused even after he specifically asked them. I think Eurogamer saw exactly what happened to Kern, and it's no accident that that their policy explicitly includes a "right of reply" (perhaps a subtle message that they won't similarly treat game devs like shit).

When most legit sites are accused of corruption? They show what steps they have taken to show they are not. Kotaku says we are just for entertainment so it doesn't matter which frankly says all anybody who ISN'T an SJW needs to know.

As for the rest of the "la la la, you are wrong, no proof you are wrong" all you have shown is you are a hardcore SJW and therefor there is no point even bothering to waste a few minutes to speak to you, you already believe your political narrative and if Jesus Christ came down and said "you are wrong" you would accuse him of being gender biased, good day.

The cover-up didn't work.
The week-long gaming press news blackout and user comment/forum censorship didn't work.
The coordinated, ongoing smear campaign that began with the "Gamers are Over" articles hasn't worked.
The doxxing and harassment of pro-GG folks hasn't worked.
The endless train of embarrassingly desperate counter-hashtags hasn't worked.
The Wikipedia and Nightline hit pieces only damage those outlets' credibility for short-term effect.

PC Gamer is the latest games journalism site to update its ethics policy in the wake of Gamergate, joining IGN, the Escapist, and of course Kotaku/Gawker (though in Gawker's case, they put up more of a fight and the Gamergate pressure to be ethical had to be routed through the FTC). And there are probably more I'm forgetting.

Gamergate also got Brad Wardell (CEO of Stardock) some long-overdue apologies for hit pieces run against him:
https://twitter.com/iamDavidWi...
http://www.gamepolitics.com/20...
http://www.zenofdesign.com/in-...

Ask yourself how much of this you've seen reported in the corrupt media (which at this point, sadly, clearly includes Slashdot). Of course none of it ever had a chance of appearing in the Wikipedia article. Nothing enrages anti-Gamergaters more than someone covering both sides of the story, and that should tell you something.

Their side thrives only in an environment of propaganda and censorship, and evaporates when faced with integrity and transparency. They prove the need for Gamergate every time they write an article based on the assumption that terrorism and child porn^W^W^W^W misogyny and harassment have become the root passwords to the Constitution^W^W journalistic ethics.

The cover-up didn't work.
The week-long gaming press news blackout and user comment/forum censorship didn't work.
The coordinated, ongoing smear campaign that began with the "Gamers are over" articles hasn't worked.
The doxxing and harassment of pro-GG folks hasn't worked.
The endless train of embarrassingly desperate counter-hashtags hasn't worked.
The Wikipedia and Nightline hit pieces only destroy those outlets' credibility for short-term effect.

Last week PC Gamer became the latest games journalism site to update its ethics policy in the wake of Gamergate, joining IGN, the Escapist, and of course Kotaku/Gawker (though in Gawker's case, they put up more of a fight and the Gamergate pressure to be ethical had to be routed through the FTC). And there are probably more I'm forgetting.

Gamergate also got Brad Wardell (CEO of Stardock) some long-overdue apologies for hit pieces run against him:
https://twitter.com/iamDavidWi... [twitter.com]
http://www.gamepolitics.com/20... [gamepolitics.com]
http://www.zenofdesign.com/in-... [zenofdesign.com]

Ask yourself how much of this you've seen reported in the corrupt media (which at this point, sadly, clearly includes Slashdot). The anti-GG side thrives only in an environment of propaganda and censorship, and evaporates when faced with integrity and transparency. They prove the need for Gamergate every time they write an article based on the assumption that terrorism and child porn^W^W^W^W misogyny and harassment have become the root passwords to the Constitution^W^W journalistic ethics.

This is normal for wikipedia. When you have a contested issue, you'll have pundits duke it out and one who gives best blowjobs to admins wins.

Here's a good example of even more hilarious controversy:
http://techraptor.net/content/...

I haven't seen any of this; do you perhaps have a link?

easily found:
http://theralphretort.com/game...

Lots of information there. They're very brazen about it because no one in the mainstream ever calls them on it.

They don't even use sock puppet accounts. They do this under their own names.

I did see that one (only once though); at least the idiot in question apologised...

They only did that when it hit mainstream and there are so many other examples of the same thing I don't know where to start.

Do you have any links about these?

KingOfPol was sent a knife in the mail
http://www.reddit.com/r/Kotaku...

Milo Yiannopoulos was sent a syringe full of an unknown fluid
http://www.escapistmagazine.co...

I have links for everything else if you want it. It is very easy to find if you look for it. The media is doing a complete snow job on the issue. It is so striking that we're seeing this:

http://techraptor.net/content/...

You might also find this interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

They're lying.

Look at this in regards to Anita:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Then watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

That is colbert from the comedy central show basically giving her a puff piece. Now he isn't a real journalist but you can see the pervasiveness of the media blackout on the issue.

Note that comments are disabled on that video. Look at his other videos... comments are permitted.

This is what gamer gate is about to a large extent. Systematic media corruption and censorship. They're lying to everyone.

Does it matter? Is it a shit issue about a shit community that no one cares about? That is relative to you. However, they are doing it and there is nothing to stop them from doing it anywhere else.

They actually banned someone right in front of Julian Assange. Which had him join in the issue on our side as well.

Everyone that opposes, questions, or criticizes these people is labeled a bigot out of hand.

There are so many god damn links. If you are really curious, I can put you in touch with other people that will tell you themselves. No one in this is hiding. The media outright refuses to interview anyone but the anti side. And when we invite the anti side to come onto channels and talk to us they refuse.

They won't talk to us. They won't debate. They won't explain themselves.

All they do is lie, make threats, and trick idiots into backing them.

This goes way beyond offending people, though. This is abuse and harassment, which is not the not the same thing at all.

Anyone who has been paying even passing attention to Gamergate knows by now that in the vast, vast majority of cases, this doesn't go beyond offending people. This doesn't extend into the territory of abuse or "harassment" at all for any sane definition of these terms. Claims that it does are being used as a tool to censor and shut-down discussion around this issue. Case in point.

Since you obviously can't tell the difference, you are directly part of the problem. There is no right to make rape threats.

Case in point. A slashdotter makes a comment about the right not to be offended, and is all but called a rape supporter within 4 sentences. This is the standard, now tired tactic gamers have been exposed to for over three months now: Kafkatrapping. Refuse to agree, and you must support rape and need to "sit in a corner and think quietly before joining the rest of the online community again". Discussion terminating cliches like this would not be so serious if the main stream media hadn't engaged in a propaganda carpet-bombing of gamers and indeed wider geek communities on the internet over the last three months.

I defer to sci-fi author John C Wright's description of these tactics. "You are the boy who cries wolf"

And boys like you have cried about "misogyny" in video games for years, from accusing Super Mario of objectifying women all the way up to using absurdly unrepresentative footage to accuse gamers of being out to "derive a perverse pleasure from desecrating the bodies of unsuspecting virtual female characters". When most gamers object, protest, or declare these arguments absurd, we are accused of harassment, "mansplaining", "internalized misogyny", or inevitably "supporting rape culture". This has simply kicked into overdrive in the MSM since gamers resisted the pulpit declaration that "Gamers are Dead".

And the reason is simple. Money.

What Gamergate has uncovered, more so than any other factor, is how tactics such as the parent's post are being used to censor artists, blacklist developers, and stifle creativity and competition in the games industry. Even when industry professionals know that misogyny is not a problem in gaming, these tired claims are repeated with the express intetion of shutting out competitors, even those who ostensibly support the same causes.

These tactics and other forms of cultural scarring are being used across other geek communities and only now, in the wake of gamers consumer revolt and continued resistance, do other communities finally feel safe enough to stand up to intellectual bullying of the new Internet Red Guard and the cultural revolution it has declared on geeks.

Anyone who wants to know more about the re

Doubtless you'll point at something that you don't like... can you find the same in movies, books, plays, or any other art form? Yep. So explain to me why this matters in games but we're just okay with it everywhere else? It is because in other forms you'll be met by a wall of art critics, academics, and fans that will tell you that it is art and to leave it alone. In games, our wall was made up of corrupt hipsters that cared more about gaining street cred with the political invaders then about standing up for their readers.

Representation of women and minorities in games is similar to the same in other media like film, television, and books. It's different in the respect that every medium is different and Anita's videos explore what is special about video games---but no differently than you could describe what's special about, say, film. Personally, I see much, much more discussion of feminist critiques of films, television, and books than of video games (e.g. see the discussion surrounding the Bechdel test which has its roots in essays older than video games). In fact, the only such criticism of video games that I've seen is Anita's videos and discussions about those videos.

This isn't a war. There's no evil feminist conspiracy trying to destroy video games; or, at least, no more than they're trying to destroy film, television, and books.

We have people flipping their political affiliation because of this: http://techraptor.net/content/...

Think about that. That is how badly this has pissed people off in this community. If you want to have this discussion, we can have it. But don't presume to dictate the terms. It has gone too far.

I can't say I understand posts like that. I assume that given that list of links to media sources the blogger is complaining about that they actually read those sources... but managed to get something completely different out of them than I did. It seems to me that given articles saying "Gamers, don't be assholes.", the response (not just from that blog, I've seen it elsewhere, too) is to hear "Gamers, don't be." and stop listening and act like they're being persecuted.

Women are as well represented in games as they are in any other art form.

Singling out games is the typical generational bigotry we've come to expect.

"You kids and your devil rock music" is what 95 percent of this crap boils down to.

What remains is parasites capitializing on what they see as political weakness. They just see a bunch of unsophisticated computer nerds with no political support. And so they attack the community with their political bullshit and assume they're just going to run things. Even though they don't understand games, even though they don't like games, even though they don't like the people playing games, even if they don't care if the medium lives or dies.

The problem you're saying needs to be fixed is an artifact of a political movement looking to justify its own existence.

Doubtless you'll point at something that you don't like... can you find the same in movies, books, plays, or any other art form? Yep. So explain to me why this matters in games but we're just okay with it everywhere else? It is because in other forms you'll be met by a wall of art critics, academics, and fans that will tell you that it is art and to leave it alone. In games, our wall was made up of corrupt hipsters that cared more about gaining street cred with the political invaders then about standing up for their readers.

Whatever. We crushed Jack Thompson. We'll crush this horseshit as well. We don't need MSNBC or the NYTs to agree with us. We have our own information systems and our own proclivities. If you want to win a public opinion war... you have to do it in our community. And good luck with that because this has been escalated so much that people are outright pissed at this point. Whole political identities are forming around this because it has been escalated so hard.

We have people flipping their political affiliation because of this:
http://techraptor.net/content/...

Think about that. That is how badly this has pissed people off in this community. If you want to have this discussion, we can have it. But don't presume to dictate the terms. It has gone too far.

Did anyone say genetic? No, you brought up genetics as an attempt to straw man Archangel Michael. Just another completely dishonest tactic to make it utterly impossible to ever stray from your dogma. Do you get that it's stuff like this that actually hurts women?

Do you know what actual women in the industry say? They say the fearmongering from people like you is what drives women away. Hell one of the most respected women in linux called you on this too.

Well if you ask actual women in tech they'll tell you an answer you might not want to hear: "I think the fear mongering will push women out of the industry more than anything."

Dammit slashdot, stop eating my links:
http://www.nichegamer.net/2014...
http://techraptor.net/2014/09/...
http://techraptor.net/2014/10/...

Dammit slashdot, stop eating my links:
http://www.nichegamer.net/2014...
http://techraptor.net/2014/09/...
http://techraptor.net/2014/10/...

Dammit slashdot...
http://www.nichegamer.net/2014...
http://techraptor.net/2014/09/...
http://techraptor.net/2014/10/...

Dammit slashdot...
http://www.nichegamer.net/2014...
http://techraptor.net/2014/09/...
http://techraptor.net/2014/10/...

Not even close. Cracked is just siding with literal domestic abusers, racists, sexists, and transphobes who have doxxed and threatened even children.

Here are some interviews with thirteen developers, industry insiders, and the feminist group whose female game jam was almost shut down before gamergate:
http://www.nichegamer.net/2014... [nichegamer.net]
http://techraptor.net/2014/09/... [techraptor.net]
http://apgnation.com/archives/... [apgnation.com]

You realise that you're talking about people who raised over $70,000 specifically for a feminist (radfems actually) to fund female game developers and get them into the industry, right? Some of the most ardent supporters of gamergate have been women, minorities, and yes feminists who are tired of seeing racists like Leigh Alexander (who calls black men racial slurs and threatens to smash glass in their faces for eyeballing her wrong) continue to use the name of "feminism" and "social justice" to cover for her bigotry.

Leigh Alexander and her ilk have been targeting women and minorities for doxxing, threats, and harassment so severe that two people (one a black game developer) have already been fired because of harassment and four more have had attempts made to get them fired. One of those was a prominent feminist supporter who received threats of mutilation and rape to her workplace. That's not even getting into the more than twelve other doxxings at this point including a transgender developer whose financial accounts were hacked. I've personally watched as a woman who built schools for little girls in pakistan tweeted about how she was afraid of reprisals for daring to be a "gender traitor". It's insane.

Here are some interviews with thirteen developers, industry insiders, and the feminist group whose female game jam was almost shut down before gamergate:
http://www.nichegamer.net/2014... [nichegamer.net]
http://techraptor.net/2014/09/... [techraptor.net]
http://apgnation.com/archives/... [apgnation.com]

The problem with protesting journalists is that journalists can and will write whatever they want about the people protesting them.

If you care about women's voices and prejudice you shouldn't be calling "good" a website whose editor in chief is a blatant racist that threatens black men (using a racial slur) with violence for daring to eyeball her wrong.

Leigh Alexander and her ilk have been targeting women and minorities for doxxing, threats, and harassment so severe that two people (one a black game developer) have already been fired because of harassment and four more have had attempts made to get them fired. One of those was a prominent feminist supporter who received threats of mutilation and rape to her workplace. That's not even getting into the more than twelve other doxxings at this point including a transgender developer whose financial accounts were hacked. I've personally watched as a woman who built schools for little girls in pakistan tweeted about how she was afraid of reprisals for daring to be a "gender traitor". It's insane.

Here are some interviews with thirteen developers, industry insiders, and the feminist group whose female game jam was almost shut down before gamergate:
http://www.nichegamer.net/2014...
http://techraptor.net/2014/09/...
http://apgnation.com/archives/...

The problem with protesting journalists is that journalists can and will write whatever they want about the people protesting them.