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Like I said; fantasy world of bullshit.

None of those groups are actually feminists.

Look up Gloria Steinem sometime. Campaigning against porn for decades. Recognized feminist leader. Practically a household name.

It's been fun but you are delusional. Reality and you have parted ways. So long.

But to be honest, what I really want to know is - why I never see articles on banning soda pop, beer, or champagne? They also release mass amounts of CO2 when consumed.

From Soda's Contribution to Global Warming:

Raw Data
- Grams of CO2 per liter of soda: 4.85
- US population (July 2007): 301,139,947
- Soda consumed by average American Each Year: 53 Gallons
- Liters of soda consumed: 60,330,376,981
- Annual CO2 (in Grams) from soda: 292,602,328,362
- Annual CO2 (in Pounds) from soda: 645,077,711
- Annual CO2 (in Metric Tons) from soda: 292,684
- Total annual CO2 emissions in US: 27,245,758,000
- Percentage of total CO2 released by soda: 0.001%

Since it took ten seconds of Googling to find a candidate answer to your question, I would question whether that was actually what you "really want to know", rather than an example of the red herring fallacy (or something similar, I'm not up on my taxonomy of logical fallacies at the moment). In other words, it's an essentially irrelevant question, easily answered, which makes me doubt your sincerity in asking it (though your post was carefully crafted to appear even-handed).

And ten more seconds of Googling on your username reveal that you've opined on this issue before, arguing that we should "force the EPA the eliminate soda pop and other carbonated (CO2) beverages from being sold or consumed at all their buildings and locations" to put "the shoe...on the other foot". (Yes, let's stick it to those smug, smug EPA officials!)

And there's also the Youtube video where you comment that "It has been MUCH warmer (and MUCH cooler) in the past without any of man's help. Man made climate change AKA global warming is just a tax on the stupid". (What a maverick opinion!)

But since you said you were being honest, I guess any appearance of disingenuousness on your part is...strictly illusory.

You beat me to the Tragedy of the Commons reference. In every experience I have with shared property or resources, we humans seem to gravitate toward depletion. I purchased some tools to be shared amongst a few friends. One took a screwdriver and hacked the handle off because he needed a piece of steel. The drawer full of drill rod was 3m away, but he destroyed the tool (and its availability to others) because:
- there were plenty more in the toolbox
- the drill rod is "way over there"
- "Why do you care? It's not like it was *your personal* screwdriver."

And don't get me started on how ugly freebie handouts can get.

I have not heard of any significant crimes stopped by an armed and trained civilian.
You just not be looking very hard. Here is a recent one close to me: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/08/30/man-with-concealed-handgun-license-stops-vicious-stabbing-outside-texas-school/
And tons of others: http://www.akdart.com/gun3.html

I see you have some deeply held emotional convictions about the U.S. military but I believe you are in need of a knowledge update. This ain't your Grand Pappy's DoD. The notion of "my bomb is bigger than your bomb" doesn't have as much to do with the ability to wage war as one might conceive. Are you familiar with the concept of asymmetric warfare...? If not I'd brush up on the idea. The U.S. has not been in a military conflict with a major world power since WWII. Amusingly enough though it has a history of having it's a** handed to it by spear throwing savages in places such as Japan, Vietnam and the Korean peninsula. U.S. "force multiplier" hardware are also an exponential "cost multiplier" that are a significant economic stress even in conflicts with the puny spear throwing savages of the middle east, even when the economy is otherwise unimpeded. In a total war scenario this becomes a substantial liability.

I'm also not rightly sure why you'd separate military from consumer manufacturing either. During WWII for instance, consumer manufacturing capacity was converted and became the backbone of military hardware production throughout the war. China has a working age population of roughly 950 million people. The U.S. has roughly 200 million people of working age. This is a crucial number when considering attrition related notions. Also, I'd check into where DoD contractors are getting their parts from and consider what the consequences of that might be.

Force projection also doesn't quite have the same composition as it once did. The relevance of navies are coming into question more and more as traditional limitations cease to exist an vulnerabilities rise. Likewise with forward bases.

So we save $50,000 per year for each camera.

The same cameras cost about $2000 per day to operate.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/council-votes-out-these-red-light-traffic-cameras-after-2-years-but-why/

Sorry but a program that costs 14 times more to operate than it saves is not effective and needs to be discontinued.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/texas-students-rebelling-against-electronic-tracking-cards-now-facing-consequences/

“About two weeks ago when I went to cast my vote for homecoming king and queen I had a teacher tell me I would not be allowed to vote because I did not have the proper voter ID,” she said according to WND. “I had my old student ID card which they originally told us would be good for the entire four years we were in school. He said I needed the new ID with the chip in order to vote.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/texas-students-rebelling-against-electronic-tracking-cards-now-facing-consequences/

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/09/rfid-chip-student-monitoring/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/texas-students-rebelling-against-electronic-tracking-cards-now-facing-consequences/

This is a pilot program, with 100 more schools in line to get them if it succeeds. Fuck man, google this shit. This IS different.

Or Romney

Mod Up. This is true.

Googled "care provider forced to join union"

How the Forced Unionization of Day Care and Home Health Care Providers Took Place
http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16241

‘FORCED UNIONIZATION’: SEIU COLLECTS UNION DUES FROM DISABLED KIDS’ MEDICAID CHECKS
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/forced-unionization-seiu-collects-union-dues-from-disabled-kids-medicaid-checks/

"The 1980's are calling for their foreign policy back" -- Barack Obama :)

That wouldn't be fair to the Russians. After all, they are still spinning up the old Soviet practices, aping the Cold War, and they apparently aren't done with them yet. It certainly appears that the Russians would rather be the enemy than be ignored.

Russia restarts Cold War patrols
Report: Russia may base bombers in Cuba
More Russian bombers flying off Alaska coast
Report: Russian Nuclear Attack Sub Patrolled Waters Off Gulf for a MonthUndetected
Canada does not like Russian nuclear bombers patrolling Arctic territory
Japanese, South Korean jets trail Russian bombers over Pacific
UK jets greet Russian bombers
New Russian Anti-Missile Facility Opens in Kaliningrad
Russia claims new missile can overcome missile defenses

This comment belongs here, not on slasdot: http://www.theblaze.com/tv/?gclid=CMe6gZPJ2bICFUqi4AodhwEAog

Well, they are Treacherous, Superfluous and Appalling; and Totalitarianism is Socially Abhorrent. But I think what we are really dealing with is a bunch of Thespian Supercilious Antics that are really quite Tyrannically Sequestering our Airports and now Tainting Streets in America too.

Well, I guess there is some truth to you assertion.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dnc-announces-2-hour-islamic-jumah-prayers-after-rejecting-cardinals-blessing-and-you-wont-believe-whos-invited/#

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/guess-what-walmart-raising-food-prices-faster-than-competitors/
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/08/10/walmart-raises-prices/

Walmart sells everything in one store. They can jack up prices of groceries and people still shop there because it's still the one-stop-shopping place. Or they keep grocery prices low but raise the prices on electronics, and the people buying groceries will pay a few dollars for the misc goods rather than drive somewhere else. Or they put the strong arm on their suppliers to cut costs on some goods which can be sold at a discount which other goods are kept at the same price.

Once something becomes a monopoly in a region and has a massive amount of capital to back it up it becomes nearly impossible to dislodge it. The only thing that will really dislodge a Walmart is if the town's economy fails so badly that the population declines.

It's the drones that should look out

That hasn't been the case so far. And it's easy to see why.

Allegations of police brutality (and the controversy surrounding it) gets eyeballs. Police just doing their jobs is boring. Guess which one "the media" wants.

See how that works?

I'd love to see the videos that the police took of this: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/have-minnesota-cops-been-drugging-occupy-minneapolis-theres-some-interesting-video/

The national media didn't hardly even touch it.
In this case, if the police want to video everything (which they had), fine. I'll accept evidence if they have a defense. However, nothing should ever be erased or destroyed, and all captured video should be subject to FOIA requests if they aren't. Most of all, if these allegations are true, those responsible should be immediately fired and be brought up on multiple felonies. However, history has taught me that 9 times out of 10 it doesn't happen.

Travyon Martin was 16. You can't get a concealed carry permit at 16.

I'm guessing you're glossing over the fact that people with vigilante tendencies, low IQs or mental problems should not be allowed to carry a gun, but do because guns are too easy to get. But hey tell that to the Pastor's daughter in Florida who was shot in the head through a wall when a security guard at the church was playing with his gun. You're absolutely right, her having a gun would have made her immune to bullets.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pastors-daughter-accidentally-shot-in-the-head-in-church-dies/

I don't think guns should be banned, I think they should be controlled and only licensed to people with extensive training or military experience. You know, like Switzerland where everyone is armed because everyone is in the military.

And yet this engineer feels most at home in a party that for years printed the delusion that Obama was born in Kenya.

Can't really blame them when Obama's literary agency made the same mistake.

LK

speeding? automatic ticket.

oxygen sensor broken, but you just ignored it and drove around with the check engine light on? environmental fine.

oh, you commute 60 miles one way to work? that's in excess of what the green czar said a reasonable commute should be, carbon fine.

tire air sensors reporting low air pressure? you're wasting fuel efficiency & gas, carbon fine.

didn't put your seatbelt on until AFTER you puled out on to a public road? seatbelt fine.

the possibilies are endless.

Legal precedent disagrees.

Sorry, but in the USA you don't have left and right. You have right and further-right. (On a world scale, anyway.)

Americans are often derided for their perceived or actual ignorance about the world, but this time it looks like the shoe is on the other foot. The United States does indeed have a genuine left, including hard core dedicated Communist movements. The difference is that in the United States most people tend towards the center to center right. They tend to shy away from the extremes so popular in Europe and other places.

Internationalist Socialists - AKA: Communists
Nationalist Socialists - AKA Nazis - far weaker than they were 60-70 years ago.
Fusion: American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘
Naked protests

Shying away from Communism is the smart and right thing to do . . . if you value your life.
Why Doesn't Communism Have as Bad a Name as Nazism?

Like maybe Michael Brewer, burned nearly to death and permanently crippled by five Black boys. Brewer (was) White; he's now a mass of scar tissue, nearly died of heart and kidney failure, will never: A. have a girlfriend, B. be able to hold a job, C. live much past 30. All because his mother wasn't smart enough to move out of an area with a lot of Black underclass kids. Will Smith's kids won't set your son on fire, but the underclass is another story. There was another incident in Kansas City.

Yeah I get it, typical SWPL: HATE HATE HATE Beta White males, love "diversity" which equals, for most White guys not in a group, being a target. The feral underclass, like Shawn Tyson, age 16 who gunned down two White British Tourists in Sarasota Florida for not having money when he robbed them, or Tyrone Woodfork (and his five still uncaught accomplices) who raped, beat to death, an 86 year old Tulsa OK woman named Nancy Strait, and put her 90 year old Battle of the Bulge husband in critical condition (both are White by the way) is something out of the ordinary.

Black underclass men (and women) ARE a menace. Everyone with any sense knows it. It was not always this way and likely has something to do with single motherhood (90% of Ghetto kids are illegitimate).

Reality check: as a semi-attractive (hence the HATE HATE HATE for Beta White males) woman, you don't face the same environment your son will. If he's alone, and passing by a frat house, no problem. He's just a guy. If he passes by Tyrone Woodfork, or Shawn Tyson, or any of the five Black guys who nearly burned to death Michael Brewer, he's an easy target for a beating, or worse. Underclass Black guys are stupid, violent, and have no idea of the future. Mostly, that gets them laid, regularly. They get caught pretty quick, not any help if your son is burned to a crisp or worse. [Who the hell beats and rapes an 86 year old woman, and shoots her 90 year old husband? For a crummy 12 year old car and $200 in valuables? Whitey Bulger may have been a stone-cold killer, but he never did a murder that was not locked down to avoid getting caught and high reward. It is the violent stupidity of the moment that the Black underclass lives in that makes them uber-dangerous. They really don't care if they get caught, so have no limits.]

You want Grand-kids? You better give your kid "the Talk." Nothing Derb said, was untrue. Nothing Derb said, either, contradicts how most all White people live their lives. I don't see too many people choosing to live in Marion "Dirty Asians" Berry's district. Note Black voters returned this clown to office again and again.

Derb got fired for exposing the hypocrisy of White urban liberals seen here in so many comments. Who take elaborate pains to befriend intelligent Blacks, as social positioning, avoid the Black violent underclass and politicians (almost all of whom are not only corrupt but stupidly so), and masses of Black underclass.

I want to thank you for your comment. It is exhibit A in how stunning the complete absorption of double-think, espouse one way and live another, is among the SWPL set. Also, the complete denial that life as a semi-hot chick eliciting cat-calls from drunk fratboys is not the same as getting beaten, robbed, and stripped naked by a Black mob in Baltimore, for being White. Ask yourself this, do you want that for your Son? Or is your moral positioning and vanity more important than your son? [My guess is the former outweighs the latter.]

Check out the video. The Black underclass seen there in Baltimore's I

happened more than once apparently: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/it-happened-again-firefighters-let-home-burn-after-owners-didnt-pay-75-protection-fee/

"I haven't seen reports of rapes at Tea Party rallies, unlike the shitfests spawned by left-wing OWSers."

[Citation please]

Crawl out from under your rock:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/sexual-assaults-occupy-wall-street-camps/story?id=14873014#.T2oJvOweRos

http://gothamist.com/2011/11/05/occupy_wall_street_erects_women-onl.php

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nyc-reporter-stays-night-at-occupy-wall-st-scary-place-where-rape-threat-is-very-real/

It's kind of unfortunate that the whole Rush Limbaugh stupidity (almost a tautology there) has skewed the coverage so much. Very few people outside of progressive policy wonks or the backwaters of the right-leaning blogosphere know who Sandra Fluke really is.

Ezra Klein (Mr. Progressive Policy Wonk for the Post) had a brief write up on Sandra Fluke prior to the controversy. It turns out that she knew about Georgetown's contraceptive policy before she even enrolled (over 3 years ago, long before any contraceptive controversy) and enrolled with the idea of changing the policy. Which has pretty much been her full time job ever since - she was the president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice during this time.

So, on one level, she's exactly the sort of activist "expert" that both sides invite to these panels, but she was being sold as "just" a student with a story to tell. It's annoying that this kind of stuff goes on. I'm not opposed to activists being on panels - they have immersed themselves in the issues - but I would want that stuff mentioned fairly prominently so I can properly weigh the testimony.

Ms. Fluke has been politically active for many years - she's a professional activist (not the most unbiased sources, but you can find details here and here). She's not a young law student who got swept up in events (aside from Limbaugh's disgusting comments).

Tell me your background and give me your data - I'll try to be open minded about both. Just don't play these gotcha games.

Definitely a better use of their time than chanting about the President's love of team sports.

From that article, first paragraph:

[UPDATE II: 2/17 - Please see this piece of reporting from Glenn Beck's site The Blaze. Beck's reporter, Madeleine Morgenstern, has done what the original stories did not, and put together a reasonably well-sourced story that sheds a lot of actual light on what happened here. The story is not anonymously sourced, contains an actual copy of the letter at issue here, and fills a lot of the holes that the original story had. I admit, after reading Morgenstern's piece, this story looks really bad, though I have to emphasize that it very much appears to be a function of the particular program at issue here, which is indeed an opt-in program. Nonetheless, consider the below retracted to the extent that it is inconsistent with Morgenstern's article.]

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It has most definitely not been debunked. Here is the link on "Glen Beck's site The Blaze" above: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/exclusive-2nd-n-c-mother-says-daughters-school-lunch-replaced-for-not-being-healthy-enough/

They have a copy of the note, please read it and inform yourself. If my school pulled this stunt, I would be pretty angry, it is not their place to determine the needs of my children, and as they pretty much don't eat lunch, perhaps I actually know better? My kids have money on account at school in case they actually want lunch, but I usually have that money refunded at the end of the year due to lack of interest.

The London protester said his brethren are trying to counter Warner Bros.’ control of the imagery. He claims that Anonymous UK has imported 1,000 copies from China, and the distribution goes “straight into the pockets of the Anonymous beer fund rather than the Warner Brothers. Much better.”

source : http://www.theblaze.com/stories/heres-the-history-behind-occupy-wall-streets-creepy-guy-fawkes-mask/

California would like to have a word with you. A bill to outlaw police from doing this was vetoed.
I find it unlikely that California would be the only state to allow this, but do not have any more information about other states.

Everybody and their brothers are working on getting identifying information from users.

This is probably related to the US government starting to monitor what you are saying on the Internet.

In such conditions the only prudent thing to do is to use many different logins, and use one login for one site only. This still allows an observer to use your unique writing style to suspect authorship - but that would be far weaker than the certain knowledge that all these @posts are written by the same individual. Now all they need to do is to go and find him (by, for example, serving a National Security Letter to one of the blogs where he posts and getting his IP in real time.)

These days being paranoid is a synonym for being informed :-(

You have a strange interpretation of Jim Crow since Occupy protestors clearly appeared involved these crimes:

1. NY: 10/1/2011 Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge
2. Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public Masturbation
3. Phoenix: 10/28/2011 Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, “When Should You Shoot a Cop?”
4. NY: 10/18/2011 Thieves Preying on Fellow Protesters
5. NY: 10/9/2011 Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CAR
6. NY: 10/7/2011 Occupiers Rush Police More
7. Cleveland: 10/18/2011 ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was Raped
8. NY: 10/10/2011 ‘Increasingly Debauched’: Are Sex, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street?
9. Seattle: 10/18/2011 Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested
10. 10/12/2011 Iran Supports Occupy Wall Street
11. Portland: 10/16/2011 #OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War Dead
12. Portland: 10/15/2011 #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F*** The USA”
13. Chicago: 10/17/2011 COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago
14. 10/15/2011 American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘ Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight ’Judeo-Capitalist Banksters’
15. Boston: 10/14/2011 Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents
16. Boston: 10/11/2011 Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy Boston
17. New York: 10/11/2011 You Can Have Sex with Animals.
18. New York: 10/15/2011 Harassing Police with Accusations of Phony Injuries
19. New York: 10/9/2011 Occupy Wallstreet Protesters Steal from Local Businesses
20. New York: 10/25/2011 Three M

That reference was specific to the New Jersey turnpike trucker using a jamming. I was too lazy to look up the reference and used a generic memory. Here's an article which contains that anecdote as well as other information about GPS jamming.

Starting a bonfire in the middle of a street is not exactly brilliant, and neither was the vandalism.

And it was Occupy Oakland denouncing that, and this fringe group declaring responsibility.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/oakland-liberation-front-leaflet-slams-pacifists-as-wimpy-unpaid-soldiers-of-the-banksters/

You missed the part where the Palestinians denied several peace offers, sent suicide bombers in a clear intention of blowing up in nightclubs, buses and malls and declaring without shame they want Israel extinct and jews annihilated ?

even Koch broghers funded studies say it's happeneing:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/koch-funded-study-changes-prominent-global-warming-skeptic-to-a-believer/

The sure I wanted to link to is down, they do a better description of the study and the people involved. I have never linked to that site before.

Muller, who has been a long time skeptic, has come to the conclusion that yes, it s real. The deniers that are involved i the study have started back peddling and making excuses.

not he Muller conclusion where actually needed, the data is pretty dam solid.

And Vermont is very proud of its maple syrup.

Agreed. See here: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sticky-situation-new-bill-would-make-selling-fake-maple-syrup-a-felony-with-5-yrs-in-prison/

You're right. I've often though of how the Ten Commandments make sense even if you don't believe, and there's only one I can dismiss outright for non-believers.

ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'
Yeah, if you're not a believer you can skip this one.

TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'
Not relevant, but if you extrapolate the idolatry thing a little to include "ignore TMZ and don't get wrapped up in what celebrities do" it's not bad advice.

THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'
Again, not directly relevant - but if you extrapolate that from the intended "don't use the authority of God to get your way" translation instead of the don't cuss in the name of God translation and translate that to "Don't abuse the name of authority for personal gain" it becomes relevant and I really wish people in political offices would follow it.

FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'
Take a break, if you don't you'll burn yourself out and won't be good to anyone.

FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.'
As long as your parents are descent people, don't do anything they wouldn't approve of and you'll do alright. Would your mama approve of that girl? If not she probably isn't good for you. This of course assumes your mama isn't a crack-whore.

SIX: 'You shall not murder.'
Does anyone want to argue with that?

SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.'
Sleeping with someone else's spouse is not a good idea. I could create some really bad situations. Don't fark anyone who is attached exclusively to someone else or you'll pay the price in drama and maybe even physical attack.

EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.'
Who's going to argue against this?

NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'
Yeah, good idea, lest you be this guy who's mama called him a liar.

TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'
Really, all it does is create friction among neighbors and makes it hard for everyone to get along. Do your own thing and let the other guy do his.

Maybe if he paid himself a salary commensurate with his income as opposed to the $100K annually he gets - he'd actually be impacted by what the president proposes. Instead, he collects his income from capital gains (taxed at 15%). Of course, if he paid himself a comparable salary, then he'd also have to pay SS+Medicare.

On the other hand, his company (Berkshire Hathaway), has been locked in a 10yr fight with the IRS as to how much money they should pay. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-suporter-warren-buffetts-co-hasnt-paid-some-taxes-since-2002/

Businesses are fleeing California for a lot of reasons.

Those that remain may enjoy their fitted sheet mandate as enforced by their mattress police.

The picture may well be a fake.

> this only applies to loans, not to trade

You don't just cut off the world's reserve currency in one fell swoop. You walk away in little baby steps. Back in November, Russia and China ditched the USD for bilateral trade. Now the BRICS as a whole are moving away as a group.

They're backing away from the giant bubble that is the US Dollar. When it bursts, millions of people who are well-off now, will not be any more. Personally, I have planned for just this eventuality. There's probably still time to save yourself, too, if your wealth is in Dollar-denominated assets (like US corporate shares & bonds). It's not too late... they're still walking slowly toward the exit. But make no mistake: the Dollar bubble will burst, and soon.

Several points:

-- Glenn Beck is not a "mainstream politician on the right". He's a guy who's payed to say provocative shit in the media to generate viewer numbers. Those ratings are turned into profits by the Fox News Channel through the magic of advertising. Much like Howard Stern's detractors listen to him for long stretches of time "just to hear what he's going to say next," Glenn Beck is in the same business.

-- He uses violent rhetoric because it's provocative: it's attention grabbing, it's sensationalist, and it gets people watching. This does not excuse it, in my opinion, but he is no more making "violent threats" than any of the examples below are *actually* threatening violence. Read on.

would you care to cite some examples of left-wing politicians or their supporters inciting their audience to violence on a mainstream news outlet

I would!

-- Rep. Mike Capuano, Democrat, my home state of Massachusetts. Remarking on the collective bargaining legislation in Wisconsin: "It's more than just sending an email that gets you going. Every once in a while, you gotta get out in the streets and get a little bloody when necessary."

-- Pres. Barack Obama, Democrat. Speaking to folks at a fundraiser: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun, because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

-- Pres. Barack Obama, Democrat. Talking about Republican prospects in the 2010 midterm elections"They are fired up. They are mobilized. They see an opportunity to take back the House, maybe take back the Senate. If they're successful in doing that, they've already said they're going to go back to the same policies that were in place during the Bush administration. That means that we are going to have just hand-to-hand combat up here on Capitol Hill."

-- Liberal talk show hosts like Beck are fewer & harder to find, but looking over various comments made by Randi Rhodes, Charles Bouley, Mike Malloy, and others... there are examples of violent rhetoric being used.

-- Famous recent example would be where a supporter of Pres. Obama's health care plan bit off part of a conservative protester's finger in an apparent fit of rage over their disagreement.

-- You could also check out the video embedded in this next link: in which a MoveOn supporter allegedly "chokes" a conservative protester. I'm inclined to believe there's not a lot of "choking" going on, but certainly there's still no need for him to be putting his hands around the other man's neck at a political protest, is there?

Look, it's easy to characterize violent rhetoric from liberals as "far, far left" activity, that's way out of the mainstream - nobody wants to believe that "their team" could be capable of the sorts of things that "those people" do, and so it's a natural reaction that you'd want to distance yourself from it. Much like conservatives will distance themselves from anybody who is *actually* preaching violence against liberals, and agree with you that it's the "whacko right nutjobs" who are talking like that.

The fact of the matter is that it's not just the whacko fringes using the rhetoric, on EITHER side. It's absolutely appropriate to be as disgusted with it from Republicans as it is to be disgusted with it from Democrats. Both of them should know how to behave better. But if you're really going to say that you don't mind if "your team" uses that kind of rhetoric, but you're going to object whenever the "other team" does, then you're just a hypocrite.

Yes he does.

That was a horribly flawed survey.

Ridiculous?

Air marshal leaves plane after dropping bullets

Passenger Finds Loaded Ammunition Clip on Southwest Flight

US air marshal leaves gun in airport restroom

Air Marshal Causes International Incident

Air Marshal Accused of Rape at Gunpoint

Marshals Fight Battle in Air and on Ground

From that last article:

"How would you describe the management in the air marshal service?" CBS News chief investigative correspondent Armen Keteyian asked a current air marshal.

"Sexist, racist, homophobic, anti-disabled vet group, grossly incompetent," said the marshal, whose identity was concealed. "That's the general consensus among air marshals."

Nearly two dozen current or former marshals have told CBS News the agency is dominated by an "old boys club" of white, male supervisors -- mainly ex-secret service agents who, they allege, routinely discriminate, intimidate and retaliate against employees who question their actions or authority.

"This behavior has just spread like a cancer and it's out of control," the marshal said.

Well ... it sounds like you called it right: ridiculous.

>>>Oh how I miss Gopher, Archie, and Veronica and gang. The modern-day World Wide Web is basically commerce-oriented with actual information content on a steady decline. Sad.

(50 years ago). Oh how I miss Radio. The modern-day television is basically commerce-oriented, while radio has devolved into a bunch of pop music.
(80 years ago). Oh how I miss Books. The modern-day radio is basically commerce-oriented, while books provided ad-free entertainment.
(100 years ago). Oh how I miss Live pianos/bands. The modern-day grammophone is basically commerce-oriented with actual talent on a steady decline - replaced with pop stars.
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>>>Let's move to Web 3.0 and a return to the original purpose of the Internet and World Wide Web, namely information-sharing and collaboration for the enrichment (betterment) of society through knowldge and its applications to solving problems.

It still exists if you're willing to look. Like here: http://www.theblaze.com/ or here: http://www.drudgereport.com/ or here: http://moveon.org/ or here (one of the first websites): www.amazon.com. The original intent of the web did not go away..... it just was built-upon with new audio/video sites.