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The USAF was not out to bomb that hospital. It was a horrible mistake.

They've said it was collateral damage, then a horrible mistake, then because the Afghani army asked for it, then because there was a Pakistani agent who was coordinating Taliban attacks from the hospital, ... And just yesterday the US army rammed the gate of the hospital with a tank to "investigate" things.

Whatever it was, it looks like everything but a "horrible mistake".

For the United States hard data is surprisingly difficult to come by but the guardian says that 903 people have been killed by law enforcement so far this year. The Washington Post says that the number is consistently above 1000 per year.

In Australia between 1989 and 2011 there were 105 people killed by law enforcement so maybe 5-6 per year.

I make the US population about 14x the Australian population so per capita US law enforcement are killing more than 10x the number of people.

The dog will go for whichever one is closer and then try to eat the second one, at least judging by all the dogs I've known.

Dogs are not as smart as Chimpanzees, who will hoard food and then "cook" it later.

I kinda' want to get back to the mode where the crime comes before the investigation, you know?

I broadly agree, but with one important proviso. It's an axiom of modern policing that the best time to stop a criminal is before the crime happens. But the best time to do that is before they become a criminal.

If you know of some community where there is a risk of young people entering a life of crime, what is the right thing to do? You don't wait for them to commit a crime and then nab them; that creates unnecessary victims. You could avoid creating the victim by entrapping them. That gets you a headline, but it also runs the risk of creating a criminal where there was none.

Surely the right thing to do is divert them away from a life of crime? Maybe work with the community to help turn disaffected and disenfranchised young people into productive members of society?

If this was any other kind of crime (e.g. think of most criminal gangs), we would instantly know that was the right thing to do.

If you mean for your requirements to be different

They are different, but even if cnaummann sincerely misunderstood them to be much more lax, than I intended, well, he did not offer a list anyway.

To clarify, the 80% would apply to the predicted changes. For example, if somebody predicted in 2005, that by 2015 the oceans will rise 10 cm, I would consider a rise of 8 cm as confirmation of the prediction.

Not at all predictions are quantifiable — statements like "Arctic will be ice-free by 2013" or Scotland's ski-industry will be bankrupt would've been acceptable too. But neither he nor you, nor anyone else, apparently, can find successful predictions to list...

Oh wait, some in the highest levels of government have been portraying Assange's "actions" (aka journalism, somewhat sloppy journalism but journalism all the same) as "aiding our enemies (terrorists)". Congressman Peter King stated that Wikileaks should be designated as a terrorist organization. Others have suggested he should "vanish", still others have said he should be prosecuted for espionage, material support of terrorism, aiding the enemy or a number of other charges.

http://www.washingtontimes.com...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
http://www.theguardian.com/med...
http://www.theatlantic.com/int...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic...

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Insignificant next to the impact of the Red Army on the German military. And you didn't answer the question - how much would you have wanted Churchill to face three times the German military presence if they hadn't been tied up fighting the Russians you despise? But now that we know that you're a British Exceptionalist, here's a question for you: rounding up hundreds of thousands of innocent people into concentration camps. Torturing them to death, by means such as gang rape, ramming sand into their rectums, using metal tools to first crush and then remove testicles from men....Nazi Germany or British-occupied Kenya in the 1950's?

One guess, motherfucker. Now, why don't you round up a few of your American Exceptionalist buddies and visit a bar in Moscow to tell the locals how you did all the haaard wooork of beating the Nazis in WWII. When your casualties were numbered in the thousands, theirs in the millions. Just make sure to wear a cup and mouthguard when you do it.

United States bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade

US rendition: every suspected flight mapped

Have a nice day. -PCP

Wrong:

http://www.theguardian.com/med...

Seriously, you Assange cult members just make up a lot of shit just to feed his gigantic narcissistic ego. I'll debunk two of the cult myths right here:

First of all, the US/UK treaty allows for a LOT more ways that somebody can get extradited than the US/Sweden treaty, so the whole notion that he would fare worse in Sweden is a load of horse shit.

Second of all, no European state has any extradition treaties that permit the death penalty. Regardless of whether he was extradited from either the UK or Sweden to the US there's no death penalty.

http://www.theguardian.com/med...

If what you say is true, the swiss cold easily make the assurance he won't be extradited and deal with the rape.

Of course, the rape thing is a falsehood and they are lying about why they want him and providing assurances about not getting extradited goes completely against their goals so they won't do it.

If they aren't lying, they wouldn't care about the non-extradition assurances.

YOU are perpetuating a lie when you spout your shit. Go away.

Lol, Turnbull was the communications minister who said that data retention was pointless!

http://www.theguardian.com/aus...

https://newmatilda.com/2015/10...

https://newmatilda.com/2015/10...

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-...

But then again, he has done nothing to roll anything back now that he's in charge...

Seriously, you Assange cult members just make up a lot of shit just to feed his gigantic narcissistic ego. I'll debunk two of the cult myths right here:

First of all, the US/UK treaty allows for a LOT more ways that somebody can get extradited than the US/Sweden treaty, so the whole notion that he would fare worse in Sweden is a load of horse shit.

Second of all, no European state has any extradition treaties that permit the death penalty. Regardless of whether he was extradited from either the UK or Sweden to the US there's no death penalty.

http://www.theguardian.com/med...

Yes, intentional abuse, unintentional abuse, simple mistakes, human or machine error, and all manner of things happen in intelligence work. And those errors are such a vanishingly small proportion of what NSA does that it is nearly zero -- and they are still taken seriously.

I have no doubt that the majority of the uses of the data are perfectly legitimate, but it seems to me that "taken seriously" is a bit of an overstatement here. Unless something has changed fairly recently, I think we have good reason to suspect that the generally good behavior of NSA employees has more to do with the fact that most people are decent and honest than with detailed oversight. A couple of disturbing things from that report:

1) While the number of "substantiated" abuses appears to be small, it seems like the cases that were substantiated were caught more out of good luck than through the inevitable grinding gears of ubiquitous oversight. That makes me wonder if those 12 cases were really most of the story or if they were just the fruit that hung low enough to pick with the tools they have. Given the details of the stories, I suspect that we're not even picking low hanging fruit in these investigations. Just harvesting what's on the ground.
2) "Written warnings" to people found to have abused the system sounds pretty thin. Perhaps the story needs more details, but it seems hard to come up with an example of "abuse" that shouldn't lead a loss of a security clearance.

When oversight of people with powerful tools comes up, we always hear a lot of rhetoric about how they're already hamstrung and they're really honorable and it's only just a few bad apples and we'll just have to deal with that. The same song and dance comes out whenever people ask questions about abuse of authority by police. Just a few years ago, nobody with the power to do anything seemed to believe that the police could possibly do nefarious things and then use their authority and general lack of transparency to cover them up. Thanks to ubiquitous cell phone and body cameras, we're starting to realize that people are people, and they'll often do whatever they can get away with.

I'm willing to believe that the NSA's record is much better than that of the average police force, but I'm also inclined to believe that we're still at the very early stages of getting the whole story on abuses.

This is a list of notable cryptocurrencies. There were more than 669 cryptocurrencies available for trade in online markets as of 24 August 2015 and more than 740 in total[1] but only 8 of them had market capitalizations over $10 million.

It did in the building industry

[snip]For 16 years the Consulting Association compiled a secret database on thousands of construction workers[/snip]

The link does not go to the article. Could somebody post the actual link?

Here are some other sources:
http://www.newser.com/story/21...
http://www.theguardian.com/bus...
http://www.npr.org/sections/th...

Current economic theory could well substitute for some primitive magical cult. Hence such monstrosities such as the Black–Scholes model (a rehashed nuclear physics formula). The magic formula that caused the global economic meltdown. You might as well wave a dead chicken at your Quotron/Bloomberg terminal.

Liar's Poker by Michael Lewis

As humans are not generally sold and bought, there are some additional challenges to even define what "value" of a human means.

About a thousand dollars to buy a person if we go by the open markets in the Middle East...

They may not have moved forward with making them a full Olympic sport, but I don't think they've rescinded the designation.

In fact, it looks like there's still legal wrangling on the topic, and it sounds as if it's not entirely out of the Olympics:

Before Tuesday's hearing, a spokesman for law firm Irwin Mitchell, which is representing the EBU, said: :Chess has already been recognised as a sport by the International Olympic Committee and was demonstrated at the Sydney Olympics in 2000. It was also included in the 2006 and 2010 Asian Games and is being considered for the Pan-American Games.

"Organisers of the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo have invited both chess and bridge to apply for inclusion in the games, which, if accepted, will be the first time players have competed in the Olympics."

I read this more as, yes, it's still a sport, no, it isn't yet an Olympic event.

Suddenly I'm picturing Olympic teams of a bunch of grannies in track suits and walkers. And it's freakin' hilarious.

Way to completely (deliberately, of course) miss the point. You're (deliberately) confusing tactics and specific weapon use blah blah blah

Reality has a well known anti right-wing, anti-neocon, anti butthurt-American-Exceptionalist butthurt bias.

Oh, please. The Taliban had brutally taken over Afghanistan

After Reagan had given them money, arms and training to provoke the Soviets into an invasion. Not only was it a feature, not a bug, that they were violent fundies, it was the whole damn point.

and was harboring the group that had just killed thousands of Americans ... and refused to turn them over.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong, wrong wrong wrong wrong! Taliban offered to expell Osama bin Laddin if Bush had bothered to provide evidence that Osama was guilty. Bush didn't bother, because he wanted his illegal war.

And, Iraq? The UN authorized the use of force because

The UN didn't authorize force against Afghanistan, much less Iraq. This little alternative universe you guys live really is complete with it's own alternate history, isn't it?

among other things, Saddam never even TRIED to honor the agreements he made

You mean with his non-existent WMD's and non-existent yellow cake? Besides, if you're going to wave around the boogyman of Saddam, years after his death, you're going to have to do it to the people who put him in power in the first place. The people who put him in power in the first place and gave him weapons and intel to use in the Iran-Iraq war, which he started. The intel that allowed Saddam to use those gas warheads that caused much bedwetting amongst American Exceptionalists.

The Sea Aye Fucking Eh. Sensing a pattern yet? America creates a force to fight someone they don't like, only to become the new someone they don't like a few years later, someone who needs a good bombing. First it was the Taliban, then it was Saddam, now it's ISIS - who are still "freedum fighters", as long as they're fighting Assad and not Chevron.

the illegal war against Libya

You're deliberately pretending you can't tell the difference between "illegal" and "done poorly by an administration that doesn't know how to do such things."

No, as in fucking illegal, you incompetent boob. Constitution, heard of it? Declaring war is the exclusive purview of Congress, not the President. No, you can't weasel out of this with the War Powers Act or NATO treaties, as Libya was no threat to the U.S. or any NATO member, and the war went long past the time limit set by the WPA. If you were dropped on the head as a child, repeatedly, and need a picture drawn for you as to why the president is not free to take the country to war without consulting the legislative branch:

Imagine that Obama decides to resolve his spat with Putin by ordering the Russian President's plane be shot down on its way back from the recent summit. This naturally leads to reprisals, and nuclear war, and most Americans ending up fucking dead from the ICBM strikes or the nuclear fallout. Should one person be able to make that call, and one person alone - or should the representative branch have a say?

the bombing of even more countries that have never been a threat to us

Ah, the ol' hand-waving vagueness tactic. Again, how do you think this helping you to sound credible?

Are you naturally a complete idiot, or does this take practice? The United States has bombed Yemen, Syria and Libya, among other countries. What threat have the people of Yemen, Syria, or Libya posed to the United States? Hint: the answer is "None".

Google, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft, and most of the other cloud computing services, already *have* data centres in the EU, so they can get into full compliance "simply" by ensuring that no applicable EU citizen data leaves those data centres. In Microsoft's case this is probably excellent news since they now have another argument they can use to avoid the US DoJ's attempts to compel them to hand over emails they have in their Dublin DC. It's the smaller US companies that are probably going to take the brunt of this - the one that don't currently have any servers in the EU.

It's probably a good day to be a CoLo provider with spare capacity in the EU...

Or in Israel in the 21st century, where poor Ethiopian refugees were sterilized without their knowledge, believing they were being vaccinated.

                http://www.theguardian.com/com...

It's a recurring practice in human history.

And as much as the "gun free zone" thing has become a talking point and every Republican presidential candidate has made hay out of the critical fact that this was a gun free zone...

It wasn't.

Oregon is one of fewer than a dozen states, along with more conservative counterparts like Mississippi and Utah, which allow concealed carry on college campuses.

At Umpqua Community College, the site of Thursdayâ(TM)s tragedy, the policy change came in a meeting of the board of directors on 9 November 2011. According to the minutes, the Oregon Community College Association legal counsel âoespoke about the gun law changes which affect the ability to carry a concealed weapon on campusâ.

As a result, the counsel noted: âoeIf you have a concealed weapon card, the policy of the board may not restrict a person from carrying a weapon.â

In other words, gun free zones at schools had been legislated out of existence in Oregon and other conservative states... where these shootings still happen.

Yet... the price for getting caught was expulsion from the school, losing any scholarships and possibly non-transferable credits, and getting an expulsion to trade around for references due to the leftist "we will ignore the law and do it anyway" administrators, board, and operators of the college.

Explain to me this; what is the bigger threat to the typical community college student? A big financial hit and loss of possible any schooling or a simple trespassing or minor "weapons" crime?

Hint: these same students frequently face bigger punishment for weed possession, illegal drinking establishments, and underage drinking.

You, my friendo, are a _liar_. The law did not make it a "gun free" zone, the idiots running the place did.

And as much as the "gun free zone" thing has become a talking point and every Republican presidential candidate has made hay out of the critical fact that this was a gun free zone...

It wasn't.

Oregon is one of fewer than a dozen states, along with more conservative counterparts like Mississippi and Utah, which allow concealed carry on college campuses.

At Umpqua Community College, the site of Thursdayâ(TM)s tragedy, the policy change came in a meeting of the board of directors on 9 November 2011. According to the minutes, the Oregon Community College Association legal counsel âoespoke about the gun law changes which affect the ability to carry a concealed weapon on campusâ.

As a result, the counsel noted: âoeIf you have a concealed weapon card, the policy of the board may not restrict a person from carrying a weapon.â

In other words, gun free zones at schools had been legislated out of existence in Oregon and other conservative states... where these shootings still happen.

"With their exclusive rights protected by the Public Carriage Office, and their rivals held back, London black cabs behave like any cartel — they squeeze their advantages for all their worth." http://www.spectator.co.uk/fea...

Uber is cheaper and quicker than black cabs: http://www.independent.co.uk/v...

In the age of GPS "The Knowledge" is a needlessly hard test which keeps most people out. https://www.washingtonpost.com...

London drivers say "The Knowledge" is better than a GPS http://www.theguardian.com/wor... but even before the age of GPS, most cities on the planet regulated taxi without such a test. Doctors do something similar with entrance boards which decide how many new doctors can enter a field. http://wallstreetpit.com/5769-... Rudimentary economics: any profession which restricts their numbers can charge more. Imagine if nurses, paramedics, firemen and cops set up their own mandatory boards what it could do for them.

Most cities restrict taxi numbers usually by restricting the number of licenses issued.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/6... FRANCE $270,000
http://globalnews.ca/news/1780... CANADA Was $360,000
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/cost... AUSTRALIA Was $425,000
http://www.scmp.com/business/m... HONG KONG $1M
http://www.washingtonpost.com/... USA $1.2M

It got approved because the Afghan Police specifically asked for it to be leveled. They alleged that the hospital was being used as a firebase:

The Ministry of Defense said “terrorists” armed with light and heavy weapons had entered the hospital compound and used “the buildings and the people inside as a shield” while firing on security forces. Brig. Gen. Dawlat Waziri, the ministry’s deputy spokesman, told The Associated Press that helicopter gunships fired on the militants, causing damage to the buildings.

Interior Ministry spokesman Sediq Sediqqi said 10 to 15 “terrorists” had been hiding in the hospital at the time of the strike.

“All of the terrorists were killed but we also lost doctors,” he said. He said 80 staff members at the hospital, including 15 foreigners, had been taken to safety. He did not say what sort of strike had damaged the compound.

Around 2pm the Taliban seized the medical compound, according to Sarwar Hussaini, the spokesman for the provincial police chief.

“Fighting is continuing between Afghan security forces and the Taliban,” he said.

"probably" seems too much of a leap from the available information, I think "possibly" would be more accurate word to use at this time.

From what I can tell, it's likely there was no internal US Military mistake. At all. Maybe an Afghan one, tho.

Afghan forces asked us to blow up the building. We blew up the building. This is the bottom bit of the story.

Then it turned out that it was a hospital said Afghan forces were pissed at because the hospital treated Taliban. They are also still alleging the Taliban had taken over the hospital and was using it as a firebase.

The US dropped 1600 bombs just in March of this year just against Daesh.

.... SO why the ISIL is still strong, right!?? and U.S still lectures Russia how to kill terrorists??

5) Most of civilian deaths source is SOHR (Syrian Observatory for Human Rights)

Rami Abdulrahman's UK based SOHR has been cited by virtually every western news outlet since the beginning of the uprising.
The United Kingdom-based SOHR is run out of a two-bedroom terraced home in Coventry by one person, Rami Abdulrahman,[3] a Syrian Sunni Muslim who also runs a clothes shop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Who is behind Syrian Observatory for Human Rights? http://www.rt.com/news/317372-...

Many contradictions because of many lies.

The US dropped 1600 bombs just in March of this year just against Daesh.

.... SO why the ISIL is still strong, right!?? and U.S still lectures Russia how to kill terrorists??

5) Most of civilian deaths source is SOHR (Syrian Observatory for Human Rights)

Rami Abdulrahman's UK based SOHR has been cited by virtually every western news outlet since the beginning of the uprising.
The United Kingdom-based SOHR is run out of a two-bedroom terraced home in Coventry by one person, Rami Abdulrahman,[3] a Syrian Sunni Muslim who also runs a clothes shop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Who is behind Syrian Observatory for Human Rights? http://www.rt.com/news/317372-...

Many contradictions because of many lies.

The US dropped 1600 bombs just in March of this year just against Daesh.

.... SO why the ISIL is still strong, right!?? and U.S still lectures Russia how to kill terrorists??

5) Most of civilian deaths source is SOHR (Syrian Observatory for Human Rights)

Rami Abdulrahman's UK based SOHR has been cited by virtually every western news outlet since the beginning of the uprising.
The United Kingdom-based SOHR is run out of a two-bedroom terraced home in Coventry by one person, Rami Abdulrahman,[3] a Syrian Sunni Muslim who also runs a clothes shop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Who is behind Syrian Observatory for Human Rights? http://www.rt.com/news/317372-...

Many contradictions because of many lies.

But, you know, Google tends to complicate things a bit... Orders are orders...

Yes. Yes they can. That is what has happened in the UK.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/...

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.c...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

Liberals cannot admit that humans are evil, and guns are merely a tool that can be used for good or for evil. Most liberals I encounter are scared of guns, and so because they are scared, everyone else should be scared of guns and be forced not to have them. The desire to ban guns is rooted in cowardice and fear.

A large part of the cost of housing in the US these days is due to codes. Yes, that is a big drain on the economy and a big obstacle to housing affordability.

You said it. If only big government would let people who clearly know what they are doing take care of hooking up their own gas lines, stop having so-called inspectors shut down private homes because they "smell funny", not harass honest builders over which materials they use in construction, and allow small busineses to take care of maintenance on their own, then life would be much better.

Think of all the money that could be saved!

Servetus was burned as a heretic by Protestants. Someone else already touched on Galileo.

Bruno was not persecuted for his scientific research either.

From http://www.theguardian.com/sci... :

The answer, it seems, is yes (a bit) and (mostly) no. In the first episode, a rather hefty portion of airtime (11 out of 43 minutes) is devoted to an animation on the life of Giordano Bruno. Burnt at the stake by the Roman Inquisition in 1600, he was there to play the role of scientific hero and martyr. It is an ill-fitting part for this idiosyncratic Dominican monk.

Laudably avoiding any temptation to snark, Meg Rosenburg took the sudden interest in this reasonably obscure figure as an opportunity to help those who might Want to Know More About Giordano Bruno. While Bruno’s cosmological poetry and mystical thought included heliocentrism, he was not, of course, a scientist, nor was he sentenced to death for “scientific” ideas or anything like “the nice-mannered, doe-eyed dissenter” that appears on the screen.

From http://motherboard.vice.com/bl... :

But the truth is that Bruno's scientific theories weren't what got him killed. Sure, his refusal to recant his belief in a plurality of worlds contributed to his sentence. But it's important to note that the Catholic Church didn't even have an official position on the heliocentric universe in 1600, and support for it was not considered heresy during Bruno's trial.

On top of that, his support for Copernican cosmology was the least heretical position he propagated. His opinions on theology were far more pyrotechnic. For example, Bruno had the balls to suggest that Satan was destined to be saved and redeemed by God. He didn't think Jesus was the son of God, but rather “an unusually skilled magician.” He even publicly disputed Mary's virginity. The Church could let astronomical theories slide, but calling the Mother of God out on her sex life? There's no doubt that these were the ideas that landed Bruno on the stake.

"A German chemical company, BASF, and a US company, Novomer, are capturing CO2 from power plants or other waste sources, using novel catalysts to make polypropylene carbonate. This plastic can be used for coatings, adhesives, foams and packaging and can replace other plastics in these applications that are currently made from oil. Both companies are moving towards commercial processes. Bayer, another large German chemical company, is also advancing a process to make polyurethane foams using carbon dioxide."

"A more brute force approach is that taken by the Solar Jet programme in Switzerland, led by Dr Aldo Steinfeld of ETH-Zurich collaborating with Shell. They designed a clever reactor that generates very high temperatures from solar energy to break down carbon dioxide and water, converting them to hydrogen and carbon monoxide. From this mixture they can make kerosene for jet fuel using well-known chemical processes. This is still at an early stage – so far they have made one litre of fuel – but sometimes these high temperature processes are more straightforward to scale up than catalyst-based approaches."

- http://www.theguardian.com/sus...

The story, by Greg Miller, recounts daily meetings with senior officials from the FBI, CIA, and State Department, all desperately trying to come up with ways to capture Snowden. One official told Miller: “We were hoping he was going to be stupid enough to get on some kind of airplane, and then have an ally say: ‘You’re in our airspace. Land.’ ” He wasn’t. And since he disappeared into Russia, the US seems to have lost all trace of him.

Thirdly, because of outside CIS reader can't read Russian, the MSM can spin story likely: 'suspected Russian submarine' crashed Irish fishing boat in May and silently revealed in September it is really the Royal Navy one (of course without apology).

How to write a propaganda piece on Russia (RT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Fourthly, yes Russians are not smart enough to use 'creative propaganda' (misleading headline, hit-n-run stories, redirected tactics, buried 'harmful' article under tons of entertainment stories...), but compare to Ukraine:
TheMoscowTimes, Novaya Gazeta (have English version) are explicitly against government, their articles are mostly in this direction, there is no 'positive' news. There Echo, NEWS.ru ... I can't confirm when I don't read Russian.

Compare to Ukraine, the Kiyvtimes, was actively against Yanukovich, now actively support the government (surprised!?). The opposition journalists, politicians of Ukraine were kills (about 6-7 of them) in bloody week not long after the death of Nemtsov.
The western medias not interested in this story, if they reported, they did not forget to add the story of Nemtsov beside these.
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/...
http://www.rt.com/news/250245-...

or beaten, force head of National TV to resign. (RT had some transcript):
http://www.rt.com/news/ukraine...
The MP in the video, Igor Miroshnichenko, is a member of the new parliamentary committee on freedom of speech.
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

Klitschko said that the prosecutor general, who is also from Svoboda, should launch an open and transparent investigation into the incident

Igor Miroshnichenko is still strong and healthy. (searching for Ukraine rada fighting in Youtube)

Recently, Ukraine ban 'pro-Russian' from European countries (later lifted the ban, EU journalists only), but if this is Russia, the reaction must be different:
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

The story, by Greg Miller, recounts daily meetings with senior officials from the FBI, CIA, and State Department, all desperately trying to come up with ways to capture Snowden. One official told Miller: “We were hoping he was going to be stupid enough to get on some kind of airplane, and then have an ally say: ‘You’re in our airspace. Land.’ ” He wasn’t. And since he disappeared into Russia, the US seems to have lost all trace of him.

Thirdly, because of outside CIS reader can't read Russian, the MSM can spin story likely: 'suspected Russian submarine' crashed Irish fishing boat in May and silently revealed in September it is really the Royal Navy one (of course without apology).

How to write a propaganda piece on Russia (RT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Fourthly, yes Russians are not smart enough to use 'creative propaganda' (misleading headline, hit-n-run stories, redirected tactics, buried 'harmful' article under tons of entertainment stories...), but compare to Ukraine:
TheMoscowTimes, Novaya Gazeta (have English version) are explicitly against government, their articles are mostly in this direction, there is no 'positive' news. There Echo, NEWS.ru ... I can't confirm when I don't read Russian.

Compare to Ukraine, the Kiyvtimes, was actively against Yanukovich, now actively support the government (surprised!?). The opposition journalists, politicians of Ukraine were kills (about 6-7 of them) in bloody week not long after the death of Nemtsov.
The western medias not interested in this story, if they reported, they did not forget to add the story of Nemtsov beside these.
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/...
http://www.rt.com/news/250245-...

or beaten, force head of National TV to resign. (RT had some transcript):
http://www.rt.com/news/ukraine...
The MP in the video, Igor Miroshnichenko, is a member of the new parliamentary committee on freedom of speech.
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

Klitschko said that the prosecutor general, who is also from Svoboda, should launch an open and transparent investigation into the incident

Igor Miroshnichenko is still strong and healthy. (searching for Ukraine rada fighting in Youtube)

Recently, Ukraine ban 'pro-Russian' from European countries (later lifted the ban, EU journalists only), but if this is Russia, the reaction must be different:
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

The story, by Greg Miller, recounts daily meetings with senior officials from the FBI, CIA, and State Department, all desperately trying to come up with ways to capture Snowden. One official told Miller: “We were hoping he was going to be stupid enough to get on some kind of airplane, and then have an ally say: ‘You’re in our airspace. Land.’ ” He wasn’t. And since he disappeared into Russia, the US seems to have lost all trace of him.

Thirdly, because of outside CIS reader can't read Russian, the MSM can spin story likely: 'suspected Russian submarine' crashed Irish fishing boat in May and silently revealed in September it is really the Royal Navy one (of course without apology).

How to write a propaganda piece on Russia (RT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Fourthly, yes Russians are not smart enough to use 'creative propaganda' (misleading headline, hit-n-run stories, redirected tactics, buried 'harmful' article under tons of entertainment stories...), but compare to Ukraine:
TheMoscowTimes, Novaya Gazeta (have English version) are explicitly against government, their articles are mostly in this direction, there is no 'positive' news. There Echo, NEWS.ru ... I can't confirm when I don't read Russian.

Compare to Ukraine, the Kiyvtimes, was actively against Yanukovich, now actively support the government (surprised!?). The opposition journalists, politicians of Ukraine were kills (about 6-7 of them) in bloody week not long after the death of Nemtsov.
The western medias not interested in this story, if they reported, they did not forget to add the story of Nemtsov beside these.
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/...
http://www.rt.com/news/250245-...

or beaten, force head of National TV to resign. (RT had some transcript):
http://www.rt.com/news/ukraine...
The MP in the video, Igor Miroshnichenko, is a member of the new parliamentary committee on freedom of speech.
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

Klitschko said that the prosecutor general, who is also from Svoboda, should launch an open and transparent investigation into the incident

Igor Miroshnichenko is still strong and healthy. (searching for Ukraine rada fighting in Youtube)

Recently, Ukraine ban 'pro-Russian' from European countries (later lifted the ban, EU journalists only), but if this is Russia, the reaction must be different:
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

Either the NSA has some good shit on everyone in power, and/or everyone in power values convenience over the interests of the people.

No, they have some good shit on everyone. They have said as much, without really coming out and saying it outright, if you see what I mean.

Read all about it here and here.

Snowden followed a single Twitter account: the U.S. National Security Agency

Khm, I wonder, why he is not following Kremlin's accounts. Just to, you know, hold Putin accountable...

Just because Russia is worse doesn't mean America isn't bad. If you really want to speak out against the abuses of the Medici, you're going to need the protection of the Borgias first. Hypocritical? Sure. But I'm afraid that's just how Renaissance Italy works.

Neah, he is safe in Russia. You know, the nice free country, were renegade government employees are never tortured — merely given tea with radioactive poison in it.

Snowden followed a single Twitter account: the U.S. National Security Agency

Khm, I wonder, why he is not following Kremlin's accounts. Just to, you know, hold Putin accountable...

Chernobyl for one was certainly not "very localized" and whether it "kill[ed] very few people" is contested.

The figure of "just a few thousand" as given by the WHO for Chernobyl ignores the huge uncertainties given by the nature of radiation exposure, and is not least thanks to an 56 year old agreement with the IAEA that provides the latter with "an effective veto on any actions by the WHO that relate in any way to nuclear power".

(Source: http://www.theguardian.com/com... )

Chernobyl was communist fuck-ups that lied about what they were doing with the reactor, what went wrong with the reactor, and who died.

The US, are not communist fuck-ups. Maybe, a different kind of fuck-up, but not likely to the same degree.

Just in case you're not familiar with the name:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/...
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

If you have access to 80s & 90s UK newspaper archives, there are many more contemporary reports which are interesting reading.

Just in case you're not familiar with the name:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/...
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

If you have access to 80s & 90s UK newspaper archives, there are many more contemporary reports which are interesting reading.

The figure of "just a few thousand" as given by the WHO for Chernobyl ignores the huge uncertainties given by the nature of radiation exposure, and is not least thanks to an 56 year old agreement with the IAEA that provides the latter with "an effective veto on any actions by the WHO that relate in any way to nuclear power".

(Source: http://www.theguardian.com/com... )

Yes something wrong with the European standards. http://www.theguardian.com/env... Volkswagen’s rigging of emissions tests for diesel cars comes after nearly 20 years of the technology being incentivised in Europe in the knowledge that its adoption would reduce global warming emissions but lead to thousands of extra deaths from increased levels of toxic gases.

Maybe no one listened last time - but this is not the first time this has been announced. http://www.theguardian.com/tec...

The Spanish brand SEAT, part of VW group, used some 500.000 of these tampered engines. Jürgen Stackmann, the CEO of SEAT is also leaving this company.

However, apparently he is not being fired, instead he will become the group worldwide sales chief (link in German).

Interesting and sad to see how some people are being blamed and fired, while others (in the same position in other company of the group) manage to leave unpunished and even use this opportunity to climb in the group.

"Now NATO have added basically all of eastern Europe, and are trying to incorporate Ukraine."

Incorrect, NATO has not been trying to get either Ukraine or Georgia to join, it has offered them support with things like troop training, but has been well aware of Russia's sensitivity on the issue. If joining NATO was on the cards, they'd already be members.

Unfortunately, despite NATO rejecting membership for the foreseeable future, Russia felt it was okay to impose it's will on them by force regardless. When NATO says no, and Russia says "tough shit, we're invading you" I don't know how anyone can rationally try and paint NATO as the bad guy. NATO doesn't make anyone join by force, countries only join NATO because it's the democratic will of the population, and because NATO is happy for them to join - you cannot paint a mutual democratic agreement as ever unacceptable without arguing that Russia's paranoia should trump national sovereignty. It's effectively an argument that Russia gets to dictate what sovereign nations can and can't do, hence revoking their sovereignty. Making that argument whilst turning a blind eye to outright Russia invasion of countries like Ukraine and Georgia is twisted at best.

"But without this context it is not actually possible to understand the situation."

It's possible to understand that even with a clear rejection from NATO, Putin still invaded, hence making the argument that joining NATO is actually the best option, because if they had managed to join, Putin wouldn't have invaded, and because they weren't able to join, he did.

"Consider how the US would react if Russia were spending billions toward unconstitutional regime change in Mexico with the aim of installing a virulently anti-american regime there? 'Cause that is pretty much what happened in Ukraine."

Yeah, except that didn't really happen. A bit of typical funding for NGOs that support ideas like democracy and so forth is hardly akin to billions spent influencing actual political parties, you know, kind of like how Russia is pouring money into the far right across Europe pretty much like in your example?

http://www.theguardian.com/com...

Oh, and by the way - the fact you used the word "unconstitutional" is what gives you away as a Russian shill. There was nothing constitutional about Ukraine's regime change. A majority voted (73%) to begin the impeachment process which required an investigation into Yanukovych, and should that investigation find there were grounds for impeachment a 3/4 majority of 75% would've been required to remove him. Unfortunately, as soon as that 73% vote to begin the process passed, he decided to renounce his presidency and leave the country. He then decided to change his mind, but unfortunately that IS unconstitutional.

But even without that, there was a clear majority will against a continued Russian quasi-dictator running the country, so democracy must be allowed to trump authoritarianism regardless. Should a leader become so unpopular a few years into his rule that people are willing to risk their lives to overthrow him, then it's not unreasonable to hold new elections (preferably without your protection squad shooting a bunch of protesting civilians and police officers trying to maintain order dead). This may not have happened had it not been for actual Russian meddling in Ukraine for years, you know, like poisoning presidential candidates Russia didn't like:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

The current problem with Russia is all on Russia, I know you Russian shills like to try and play the victim, but at the end of the day had you not spent 15 years trying to enforce a quasi-dictatorship on the Ukrainian people that they did not want, had you not continued to oppress them, invade them, and generally make life shit for them, and had you instead simply given them the sa