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Re:pharmaceutical patents
Overall, I agree that patents don't help much with innovation. However, I think pharmaceutical patents, unlike most other patents, do, in fact, encourage innovation. The fact that they encourage the wrong kind of innovation (minor variations on existing drugs) is not a problem with patents per se, it's a problem with the costs and risks of FDA approval: it's much safer to develop a small variant of an existing drug than to develop a completely novel drug for untreatable diseases.
Sorry, guys, you can't have it all: lots of innovation, safety, and low cost. Pick any two.
No offense, but you don't know much about the pharmaceutical industry. Ben Goldacre's book Bad Pharma is a good place to start. And this article explains how, contrary to being great innovators, the big pharmaceuticals are running down their own R&D in favour of cherry picking the work of small biotech outfits and publicly funded researchers and rebranding it as their own.
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Re:Why the story is so Blackberry focused?
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Never ethical, never private, never secure
Location data and contact/address data are sensitive yet inextricably linked to how people use trackers (also known as cell phones and other portable electronic devices). Whether the device conveys GPS coordinates, can be tracked to a remarkably small area via cell tower triangulation, or unknown (to the user) parties get the information from a proprietor (such as Apple), the privacy loss inherent in ordinary tracker operation makes it impossible to "avoid storing sensitive data on the phone".
This is no accident. When societies face the combination of nonfree software (both in OS and programs people are encouraged to install later), devices that are as close to always-on as is possible for mobile computing, and a userbase as persistently distracted away from focusing on their civil liberties as most tracker users are (no thanks to sites like
/. which carry stories like these without any ethical critique to go alongside the corporate-written stockprice-sensitive spin) results like these are the outcome. Add to that the unethical ways in which trackers are made (such as Apple turning a blind eye to the environment in China or expoiting workers at Pegatron even worse than at Foxconn but Apple is certainly not alone in any of this) and you have an ugly recipe for abuse from end-to-end. Many thanks to people including Richard Stallman for compiling useful information about all of this and for his many years of warning people against nonfree software. -
Transmission costs ignored, as usual.
Rooftop Solar is
/less/ costly than any of the other alternatives, because it costs real money to get electricity from a centralized powerplant out to the customers.Even if generating at the powerplant is free, the transmission costs alone are greater than the cost of rooftop solar.
http://www.theguardian.com/com...
The gyrations of wholesale power prices are rarely reflected in consumer power bills. But letâ(TM)s imagine that the wholesale price of electricity fell to zero and stayed there, and that the benefits were passed on to consumers. In effect, that coal-fired energy suddenly became free. Could it then compete with rooftop solar?
The answer is no. Just the network charges and the retailer charges alone add up to more than 19c/kWh, according to estimates by the Australian energy market commissioner. According to industry estimates, solar ranges from 12c/kWh to 18c/kWh, depending on solar resources of the area, Those costs are forecast to come down even further, to around 10c/kWh and lower.
Math, motherfuckers.
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Re:Idiot speaks: "So.. what?"
You incorrectly assume that water in the global oceans quickly mixes with all of the other water, I expect that process takes centuries considering the size of the oceans.
Radioactive materials do not "disperse nicely"
http://www.theguardian.com/env....http://enenews.com/vancouver-s...
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Re:Funny money
How do you "flood the market" without economy of scale?
It is a process called dumping and China has been hit with tarrifs because of it by the EU. The US is investigating also.
In case you didn't know, dumping is where you sell a product in a particular market below costs usually with the intent of harming the players already in that market.
This is just protectionist propaganda from American companies interested in government enforced rent-seeking rather than competition.
No, it is a claim that has been made, investigated, and punished in some areas in Europe over a year ago and recently in the US.
Even the Chinese panels are way too expensive to make solar viable without subsidies, so they are hardly going to "kill solar" with low prices. Solar panels need to be much cheaper.
The problem is their prices to not cover their costs. If a normal company did that, they would become bankrupt and fail into historical reference. When the Chinese companies do this, they are being supported by the Chinese government and as long as their government is willing to funnel money into them, they can sell cheaper than anyone can acquire the raw materials for- let alone produce and sell something from it.
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Switzerland
In Switzerland the slowest speeds you commonly get are about 15 Mbits/s, but one thing I really like is that UPC Cablecom offer 2 Mbits/s down for *free* so if you're unemployed or in financial straights you still have access to the internet that's sufficient for doing things like looking for a job, paying your bills, etc. In England, on the other hand, if they think you're not doing enough to search for work they cut you off unemployment benefits. They in effect killed someone this way recently.
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Re:The problem with American Embargos
sigh. the propaganda is strong with this one. ultimately, no good guys on either side, but before you hate someone or something because you are told to, ask - cui bono?
not a bad article..
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Re:Binary yes, planet no.
Anything that is a sphere and orbits a star is a planet. Asteroids don't have sphere shape. Same goes for comets. The reason for the name "dwarf planets" is that of naming issue. There are more than 100 planet object out there, most of them smaller than planet Mercury.
Haumea is a planet, but is minor elongated due it's rapid orbital period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...
List of other dwarf planets.
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/pl...
Then there is a chance of Earth size planets (both above and below in size and mass) in the outer region of our solar system that have not yet been discovered. At least there are clues about them today, even if they have so far not yet been found. It is my guess they are going to be found, given time and advances in technology that allows for better detection of outer orbital planets in our solar system.
http://www.space.com/7728-eart...
http://www.theguardian.com/sci...There is a lot out there that we don't have no clue about and there are discoveries to be made (if the funding holds).
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Re:what Snowden has done is like...
actually, no he wouldn't get a fair trial. He's not allowed to present much of what would be his case. Motive is a perfectly reasonable thing to enter into the record. Except he won't be allowed to do so. Even Daniel Ellsberg of the Pentagon Papers thinks so.
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Re:Not a private police force
The City of London Police Force is not a private police force, its a public body that receives government funding and is the same as any other police force in the UK, bar the fact that it doesn't have an elected police commissioner.
It's far more insidious than just the fact it doesn't have an elected police commissioner and it most definitely is not the "same as any other police force in the UK".
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Re:Nor Private Police
The City of London Police is overseen by an elected body and funded through taxes. It is not a private police force. I think that was just a transparent attempt to sensationalize a news story.
It's a police force controlled by private businesses and backed by the government.
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Good to keep in mind when using Skype
Microsoft gave the NSA pre-encryption access to all communication streams via Skype (through the rewrite they did after purchasing Skype). They've never said that access was removed.
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
It's good to keep it in mind when using Skype (or choosing to continue using Skype) that all messages, pictures, conversations and videos are probably recorded by the NSA for future use. Bummer for the Leopard users on the convenience side of things. -
Wouldn't electric cars have the opposite effect?
The energy needed to power vehicles used to come from oil-derivatives (gasoline, diesel fuel). In a way, each car was its own little power plant.
With more and more cars becoming electric — for better or worse — the need for somebody to turn fuel into electricity will increase. That somebody can only be a power company, really... Solar panels remain joke — you need too many of them and making them is rather harmful to Earth. And disposing is a problem too.
So, even if they lose some business to the consumers' ability to generate some share of their own electricity, they'll gain from our increasing total demand for electricity.
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Re:Space Junk Chain Reaction
Looks like Japan has considered that angle. I don't know about naming something from Japan "S.T.A.R.S.", though...
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Good to remember
Keep in mind just what exactly Microsoft handed the keys to the NSA for:
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
Microsoft wasn't called out as an "enthusiastic" partner in the NSA's documents for nothing. Definitely consider all versions of Skype to be damaged goods - along with all other Microsoft products - can't imagine how excited the NSA was for the Xbox One and its always on audio monitoring and (originally) required connected video camera. -
Re:Irrelevant
>> Much of electronic collection is metadata
No. This is theory. In practice, they record everything for later (mis)use :
http://gawker.com/5991731/cias...
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Wouldn't it be ironic?
If a court did throw out all the evidence, and as a result they had to return all the Sold Bitcoin?
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Re:Very disappointing.
I always found it amusing that the Author's Guild always seems to enthusiastically back whatever it is the publishers want to happen, even to the detriment of their supposed constituency...
I'd rather hear from authors, personally, than a group that fought against libraries/universities making electronic archives of books for research...
Look, if authors/publishers aren't happy with Amazon, they don't have to do business with them. They can sell their books direct to the customer, even in a format the user can load right onto their Kindle, nothing's stopping them. Saying Amazon is the "only buyer" is B.S. The term 'buyer' doesn't mean anything (in the way you're using it) when you're dealing with purely electronic goods. Amazon doesn't "buy" an inventory of ebooks to sell, there's no supply to monopolize.
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Re:Baby with bathwater
There's a couple of reasons for this:
We haven't been building them, so building few units at a time is expensive. Curiously though constructing over 50 units over 15 years didn't bankrupt France in the 1970s and 1980s.
China [world-nuclear.org] is actually building them [wikipedia.org] on time [wikipedia.org] and on budget [newswire.ca] thanks to volume purchasing, high levels of standardization and coordination.You forgot to congratulate China on their perfect record of nuclear safety.
After all, there's no evidence to the contrary, right? :-DAnd any speculation by Western running dogs who dare to cast aspersions on the glorious People's Republic can be summarily dismissed, of course.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger running man?
If the person is a paedophile as reported then it is up to law enforcement to do what they get paid to do catch criminals. The trouble with Google Gmail is we know from the Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/wor... that GCHQ, and the NSA were attaching pictures to emails to discredit people by sending those emails with the pictures attached to the persons contact list. Homo pictures and child porn were the most popular sent by GCHQ, as they say in the document discredit and blackmail. I'm not a television type of person but I think there was a film with Arnold Schwarzenegger, called the running man? when they make it appear that he has killed people when he had not. Fantasy turned into reality in today's world. You cannot believe companies like Google or English speaking authorities. Add Russia, to that one as of yesterday they are threatening people but unlike the English speaking ones they are not threatening them with indefinite prison without trial yet.
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Re:I object.
" and generally taste worse than beef does."
Small sample:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/what-does-human-taste-like_n_5233724.html
http://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2010/sep/05/human-meat-taste-cannibalSo the general consensus is either pork or veal. Properly prepared pork is very tasty but I would say that beef can beat it out depending on the cut. Especially the tender and fatty skirt steak, better than filet mignon IMHO. Diet, gender, age and lifestyle could also affect taste. Perhaps a young fit female vegan would be the tastiest while an overweight 50y/o male alcoholic smoker would taste awful.
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Re:Billions?
If Hamas were funded with billions, they wouldn't need "terror tunnels" to smuggle food across the border with Egypt.
Here's a good article about the tunnels:
Inside the tunnels Hamas built: Israel's struggle against new tactic in Gaza warThree different kinds of tunnels existed beneath Gaza, said Eado Hecht, an Israeli defence analyst specialising in underground warfare: smuggling tunnels between Gaza and Egypt; defensive tunnels inside Gaza, used for command centres and weapons storage; and --connected to the defensive tunnels --offensive tunnels used for cross-border attacks on Israel. The military says it has located about 32 to 35 offensive tunnels, of which more than half have been destroyed, and it believes that there are around 40 in total.
The offensive tunnels have been dug by hand, as the use of machinery would risk detection. Military analysts estimate that each tunnel takes two to three years to complete, and costs millions of dollars.
Destroying the tunnels is also a painstaking operation. "This is very dangerous work," said Hecht. "Firstly, locating the tunnel entrances is very difficult; they are needles in a haystack." Remote technology does not yet exist to locate and map tunnels deep underground, he said, hence the need for troops.
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Re:Good Thing
"The government argues the carbon pricing scheme has been ineffective, but national emissions have actually fallen by 0.8% in the first calendar year of its operation, the largest fall in 24 years of records."
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Re:Ridiculous
Hm?
Following are just a few sources are located on "the internet." I'm not sure who owns them but I do know they do not toe the part line. Whether you think they are valid or not, they ARE out there.
http://www.motherjones.com/
http://www.theguardian.com/us
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Re:Online in England, maybe
You're forgetting:
3a. Rush it through the legislative process, so opponents have as little time as possible to act
http://www.theguardian.com/tec...
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Re:If true. If.
"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent." J. Edgar Hoover, The Elks Magazine, 1956
Yeah, that guy would certainly know about evil conspiracies destroying all that is good and decent.
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No one calling for resignations
Dianne Feinstein statement on CIA torture report 'cover-up' Ã" full text (12 March 2014)
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
"wading through the horrible details of a CIA program that never, never, never should have existed."
Feinstein accuses CIA of 'intimidating' Senate staff over torture report (12 March 2014)
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
The problem is the issues go back to many, many years. Vital information was not passed on to the FBI about the movements of bad people into the USA.
Later after an event the FBI was then given files showing that same vital information existed via US gov staff in another country.
At a later date interrogations took place in a 3rd country. The FBI used wise open court interrogation skills that got a person to talk so a real US trial could be held. The CIA and their medial staff had a free pass to try torture. The FBI got results. The CIA got to try torture.
The CIA was in change of the site and communications. The CIA passed the results back. For years the upper levels of the US gov really, really wanted to hint that CIA got real results, so did the press with contacts and sockpuppets.
The problem for the CIA is the first hidden paper trail, the promotions that have been allowed over not sharing information with the FBI and then FBI interrogation results issues.
Kind of not so easy to tell the US public, press many years later. -
No one calling for resignations
Dianne Feinstein statement on CIA torture report 'cover-up' Ã" full text (12 March 2014)
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
"wading through the horrible details of a CIA program that never, never, never should have existed."
Feinstein accuses CIA of 'intimidating' Senate staff over torture report (12 March 2014)
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
The problem is the issues go back to many, many years. Vital information was not passed on to the FBI about the movements of bad people into the USA.
Later after an event the FBI was then given files showing that same vital information existed via US gov staff in another country.
At a later date interrogations took place in a 3rd country. The FBI used wise open court interrogation skills that got a person to talk so a real US trial could be held. The CIA and their medial staff had a free pass to try torture. The FBI got results. The CIA got to try torture.
The CIA was in change of the site and communications. The CIA passed the results back. For years the upper levels of the US gov really, really wanted to hint that CIA got real results, so did the press with contacts and sockpuppets.
The problem for the CIA is the first hidden paper trail, the promotions that have been allowed over not sharing information with the FBI and then FBI interrogation results issues.
Kind of not so easy to tell the US public, press many years later. -
Re:Hamas Is 100 Percent of the Problem
But Hamas will literally stop at nothing, while Israel is at least trying to minimize civilian casualties (warning people to get out of buildings, etc.). Hamas won't even honor humanitarian ceasefires [townhall.com].
Don't you see? This very mentality is the very reason that this conflict is so intractable. "Sure, we're not perfect, but look at them!" is all we've been hearing since this whole mess started over a century ago. What you don't understand is that both sides have a virtually limitless supply of counter-arguments. For example, you say Israel is "better" because they at least try to minimize civilian casualties. Is this consistent with that claim? What about this? Are you still so sure about Israeli concern for the sanctity of life? Of course, you'll have no trouble digging up countless stories of horrors committed by Hamas. And so the world turns, and we're back where we started. Nowhere.
Neither side is perfect, but I reject any claims of moral equivalence between the two sides.
No moral equivalence here. But in the end, it is not productive to keep pointing at them to justify further violence on our part, regardless of which side we're talking about. There will be no end to this conflict until both sides can agree that both sides are wrong.
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What on earth would be the purpose for this?
It makes searching domestic telco data legal under the "reasonable articulable suspicion" part.
A few hops of friends or the wrong net logs or phone history and most people could be found to be an "agent of a foreign power, associated with an agent of a foreign power, or "in contact with, or known to, a suspected agent of a foreign power"".
Then you get all the metadata legally. The old standard of a "reasonable articulable suspicion" is much lowered by easy new domestic color of law :)
No judge needed and you get the first two hops of tracking friends/family for free. The "foreign power" part ensures any contact with the outside world is an instant total data collection win. Bulk collection is now legal and the laws around it weaker re your internet or financial records. The three hop 'the corporate store" collections showed the real past efforts safe from any Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
The House's NSA bill could allow more spying than ever. You call this reform? (26 March 2014)
http://www.theguardian.com/com...
Raiding the "Corporate Store": The NSA's Unfettered Access to a Vast Pool of Americans' Phone Data (08/02/2013)
https://www.aclu.org/blog/nati...
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Re:Radicalization
So your solution is that the Israelis roll over and succumb to Hamas rocket fire and tunnel attacks instead?
No, the solution is to not repeat Bibi's Bullshit Propaganda that is debunked if you bother to check with Israeli officials or media. Not only had Hamas faithfully held to the cease fire since 2012 - despite constant IDF attacks - it was arresting those who had.
because Hamas was also attacking Egyptian soldiers in support of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood's violent resistance to it's overthrow
So now Hamas are also bad people for resisting a violent coup to overthrow an elected government and the resulting, brutal junta? Gotcha.
Gazans have made enemies with both their neighbours with persistent violent action and that's led to their isolation
You left out the Short Skirt while explaining how they were Asking For It. Do you have any posts that aren't sagely repeating western propaganda as if it were fact?
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Ok: you have everything backwards. Everything.
The storyline put forth goes like so: this all started when Hamas kidnapped three teenagers and then killed them in June. Israel launched a search and rescue mission, and Hamas responded by firing rockets.
But it's all bullshit. The month before the teens were kidnapped, the IDF straight up murdered two Palestinian boys in the street. And the month before that Israel tried to provoke Hamas by murdering one of its members the same night that Hamas and Fatah announced a unity agreement. The day before the kidnapping, Israel murdered a member of Hamas they accused of planning rocket attacks. Despite Israel's repeated violations of it's own cease fire agreement with Hamas, the latter did not respond in kind. Finally, not only had Hamas not fired any rockets since the last time Israel violated a cease fire in 2012, it had helped arrest those who had.
But Bibi found the excuse he needed with the kidnappings of the three teenagers. Despite being pretty damned sure they were all dead - you can hear gunshots over one of the teens cell phones and the car was soon found full of blood and bullet casings - they spent weeks arresting Palestinians and bulldozing homes in Gaza for a kidnapping in the West Bank even after the Palestinian Authority was helping search for the missing teens. And even Israeli outlets admit that rockets were only fired in response to IDF attacks:
At least 16 rockets were fired at Israel Monday morning, most of them hitting open areas in the Eshkol region, the army said. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.
Since then, a thousand Palestinians have died, many of them children, for which the population equivalent would be over 200,000 people getting killed in the U.S. If anyone is defending themselves, it's Hamas defending the people of Gaza from racist Israeli provocation and aggression.
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Re: This might actually kill more than the bombs
In any case It is pretty stupid to seek shelter in a building that us used by the muslim jihad army.
Like those 15 killed (most of which were women and children) and 200 injured that were seeking shelter in a UN School?
Their missiles are pretty accurate.
Either their accurate missiles were not accurate enough to hit nearby Hamas forces without injuring innocents or they used less accurate artillery despite having co-ordinates for the shelter location provided to them by the UN, whatever the case were this was a major fuck up that should not have happened. Period! http://www.theguardian.com/wor...
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Re:pre-crime
This police bunch, it is worth noting, is the police force of the "square mile"
Indeed. This is specifically the police force of the City of London "square mile", i.e. the historic, tiny core of London, long-dominated by financial businesses, and not the police force of London as a whole.
In fact, the rest of London is served by the Metropolitan Police Service. Why would the City need its own special police force? Hmm...which is pretty much run by private corporations, making this essentially a private police force in government-backed livery. It is not strange that it would be acting "proactive" and "innovative" and whatnot in furtherance of private corporate goals.
This article may also be of interest.
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Re:pre-crime
This police bunch, it is worth noting, is the police force of the "square mile"
Indeed. To clarify, this is specifically the police force of the small area confusingly titled the "City of London" (AKA the "square mile"), i.e. the historic, tiny core of London, long-dominated by financial businesses, and not the police force of London as a whole.
In fact, the rest of London is served by the Metropolitan Police Service. Why would The City need its own special police force? Hmm...which is pretty much run by private corporations, making this essentially a private police force in government-backed livery. It is not strange that it would be acting "proactive" and "innovative" and whatnot in furtherance of private corporate goals.
This article may also be of interest.
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Even for working A devices data scrub is a wash
Check out this article in The Guardian 'Factory wipe' on Android phones left naked selfies and worse, study finds,
Really keep the thing for parts yourself. Or just keep it. You can't safely wipe it. Really. You can't. Though the chance of somebody actually harming you is small it is there. And if you have enough paranoia to ask this question then you will worry. Even years from now it will pop into your head at three AM unbidden and for no reason. Was that picture of me and Irma Plotnik really gone? Really really?
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Re:maybe
You really are being dumb about this, you know.
You are insisting that FGM be characterised as an "African" issue, when it is not.
If you were to actually listen to women who have been cut, rather than theorise some crap about FGM not "even [being] possible" in "islamic / persian / kurdish" societies, you would find out that FGM is a common barbarism in places outside 'black' Africa.
Rates are above 95% in Egypt.
http://www.theguardian.com/glo...
It happens in Brunei and Malaysia, and many other countries as well.Here are some testimonies from Indian and Pakistani women who have been mutilated. Please do them the courtesy of reading what they say and shutting the fuck up about a subject on which you are obviously very ignorant.
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Re:Or maybe you're not so good at math
The UN is so ridiculously and blatantly anti-Israel that they sanctioned israel 22 times in a single year but completely ignored genocide in Africa. Top level UN officials have repeatedly admitted the UN is biased, and a majority of the "sanctions" and "statistics" put out are directly from arab nations and representatives within the UN.
http://www.theguardian.com/com...
http://www.americanthinker.com...
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Re:Funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
You shouldn't need the American proof of that.
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Re:Nudity
These blades are highly regulated. When Oscar Pistorius lost in the 200m paralympic amputee final in London in 2012, he had a rant about the length of the blades of his opponent. It's well known that long blades give an advantage over legs, hence the regulation.
What I find difficult is the classification of disability. Whilst some disabilities are relatively easily defined, most are not. Whether you're successful or not can depend on which category you're placed in, not how good an athlete you are. See here for an example.
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Re:Scale and proportion.
That "handful of pesky terrorists" happen to be the elected Palestinian government. This is what happens when people elect terror organizations as their representatives...
More like....lies repeated by those who are useful fools at best and racists at worst. The storyline put forth goes like so: this all started when Hamas kidnapped three teenagers and then killed them in June. Israel launched a search and rescue mission, and Hamas responded by firing rockets.
But it's all bullshit. The month before the teens were kidnapped, the IDF straight up murdered two Palestinian boys in the street. And the month before that Israel tried to provoke Hamas by murdering one of its members the same night that Hamas and Fatah announced a unity agreement. Despite Israel's repeated violations of it's own cease fire agreement with Hamas, no rockets were fired.
But Bibi found the excuse he needed with the kidnappings of the three teenagers. Despite being pretty damned sure they were all dead - you can hear gunshots over one of the teens cell phones and the car was soon found full of blood and bullet casings - they spent weeks arresting Palestinians and bulldozing homes in Gaza for a kidnapping in the West Bank even after the Palestinian Authority was helping search for the missing teens. And even Israeli outlets admit that rockets were only fired in response to IDF attacks:
- At least 16 rockets were fired at Israel Monday morning, most of them hitting open areas in the Eshkol region, the army said. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.
Since then, a thousand Palestinians have died, many of them children, for which the population equivalent would be over 200,000 people getting killed in the U.S. On the Israeli side, almost all of the ~35 deaths have been soldiers, with only three civilians dying, and only one via rocket. Scale and proportion? Get some.
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Re:Heck, we probably already fund them
Saudi? Hey! And Israel! Don't forget NSA and Israel - the most moral military on earth! They bomb hospitals under UN protection with the morality of the old testament!
Troll. Can't mod you. Moron. Jihadi's are homosexuals and pork eating cowards.
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Why does anyone listen to Greenpeace?
This is the same group that in June, 2006 released a press release decrying President Bush visiting a nuclear reactor with the following text...
"In the twenty years since the Chernobyl tragedy, the world's worst nuclear accident, there have been nearly [FILL IN ALARMIST AND ARMAGEDDONIST FACTOID HERE]."
They tried to downplay it as a joke.
This is also the same group who pays an exec to commute 250 miles to work by plane.
Bottom line is Greenpeace exists to raise funds so it can exist to raise funds.
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Re:Heck, we probably already fund them
Hospital
Hamas using UN ambulances
Bombing at gaza school, probably from hamas rocket falling short
Hamas rockets in two different UN schoolsThis isn't rocket surgery, not by a long shot. Hamas really is "the bad guys." Haven't even started on the tunnel stuff yet, and them using them as weapons storage. And commandeering all those materials meant for housing, and instead built it up for the sole purpose of terror, war, and screwing over the civilians.
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Re:Heck, we probably already fund them
Saudi? Hey! And Israel! Don't forget NSA and Israel - the most moral military on earth! They bomb hospitals under UN protection with the morality of the old testament!
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Re:The entire federal government
Good luck with that, your voting system has been thoroughly compromised.
The only avenue you had left was protest, but the Pentagon in 10 steps ahead of you about preventing "anti-American" protest.
Hasta la vista, freedom.
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Re:Are they forgetting that this is the UK?
Sir, I have to remind you, that, It does.
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/oct/09/human-rights-eu-law-powerful
Take your uneducated astroturfing shit elsewhere
When your taxpayers have to pay whopping fines, and you are in the guardian and other business (broadsheet newspapers) because you're wasting taxpayers money on non-compliance. Nice way of being kicked out of number 10.
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Re:I found this article to be more informative
Smallpox sent in soldiers to burn crops and kill women and children in villages? Wiped out entire tribes or forced them to travel hundreds of miles on death marches?
I trust you'll be relieved to read this paper: Did the U.S. Army Distribute Smallpox Blankets to Indians? Fabrication and Falsification in Ward Churchill's Genocide Rhetoric
Reading? How'd you manage to take all those propaganda electives at Imperialist Psychopath High School without nailing down basic reading comprehension? Nobody's talking about infecting tribes with smallpox but you and your fellow genocide excuser, HornWumpus. Smallpox wasn't paying bounties on the scalps taken from natives with a "discount" for children under the age of 12. Smallpox didn't send the cavalry off to massacre tribes that had been allies, much less ones that fought back in response to having their land and lives taken by force.
And which "holocaust" was that? You'll have to be more explicit about which faÃade you are referring to.
Doubling down on insulting your own intelligence as well as mine? The formation and expansion of the United States was impossible without the organized mass slaughter of any native tribe that dared to try and hold onto their lands in the face of colonialist aggression.
Are you perchance "rabidly anti-Zionist"? You certainly seem to have a sort of European slant to your thinking on these matters.
You mean you'd like to deflect from your racist colonialism and imperalism. Too bad, as I am always for the oppressed: the Seminoles that were first slaughtered by the Spanish and then English settlers; the Africans taken as slaves, the Jews that were forced into ghettos by the Popes; the Palestinians murdered by Zionists wanting their lands. I am always against the oppressor: the rich taking all the land and charging rent from the poor; the slavemaster; the Inquisition; the IDF occupation that has even used starvation as a collective punishment alongside it's many many other crimes against humanity.
Which is why I have a problem with you, cold fjord: you are one evil fuck who makes it his personal business to defend the worst actions of humanity.
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Re:Here we go...
Care to back that up with any references to recent statement about Israel not recognizing Palestine's right to exist? Here is evidence counter to that argument.
Oh, 5 years ago. I was wondering where you got that from. Yes, Bibi said he would accept the Palestinian state, subject to a long list of unacceptable conditions -- such as continuing to expand the settlements. Since that time, Palestine applied to the United Nations and the Israelis (through the US) prevented the UN from considering it.
The Guardian, Sunday 14 June 2009 16.22 EDT
The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, last night said for the first time he would accept an independent Palestinian state, but only on condition it was demilitarised and that the Palestinians recognised Israel as the state of the Jewish people.
In a key policy speech intended to address growing US pressure for a move towards peace in the Middle East, Netanyahu defended Israel's position and said he wanted to make peace, but despite his mention of a Palestinian state he offered few substantial concessions.
He praised the Jewish settlers who live in east Jerusalem and on the occupied West Bank and refused US calls for a halt to all settlement growth. He also said Palestinian refugees, who were forced out or fled from their homes during the 1948 war, would not be allowed to return to what is today Israel. Jerusalem, he said, must remain united under Israeli control.