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I actually meant to say yards instead of feet... look at this thread for example. Even if you managed to hit a drone, most drone bodies seems like they are flexible or tough enough plastic shells that it wouldn't really see any damage past 40 yards ....

I've never shot a drone but I do shoot shotguns quite a bit. The 300 yard figure is the range after which the NSCA considers #7.5 safe for humans and likely has some margin built in, but a goose is a pretty tough target and they get taken further out than you might think. One key point to remember is that the previously mentioned standard is for pretty small shot, #4 will go a lot further. For long range shooting #2 steel birdshot is generally good to about 50 yards for killing birds humanely if the shotgun patterns well. If you're not concerned about wounding a drone I bet you could stretch it past that. That's not a long way but 150 feet is not nothing either.

I actually meant to say yards instead of feet... look at this thread for example. Even if you managed to hit a drone, most drone bodies seems like they are flexible or tough enough plastic shells that it wouldn't really see any damage past 40 yards, clay shatters but I could see propeller blades just bending some under the partial hit from birdshot pellets that had spread out by that range (drone blades can take more than you would think as you can see in this video..

Check out this video of people trying to shoot down a drone with specially modified shotgun shells meant to take out drones - 3-5 shots at 70 ft. They work by using netting, more effective than birdshot...

Most drones people would be flying would be spending time a few hundred feet up at least. Maybe you could get it during the landing phase where the operator is trying to land it gently. But then if you are there, why not just shoot the operator if it's bothering you so much...

They've always suspected body-armor — if you have one, you must be up to no good. And laptops always took extra scrutiny of their own — easy to conceal a bomb in one.

Now it is going to be double-trouble for anyone traveling with it...

I know I'm going to go down in flames for this, and it's bad policy to respond to a troll...but...

That case is so full of stupid on the part of the guy who got convicted. He is a poster child for dumbass and deserved to get convicted. Any gun owner with a brain make sure people don't confuse him with responsible gun owners.

Do some research on your own, http://www.thehighroad.org/arc...

links to 1911 plans

I have a lot more documentation saved about 1911 assembly, though, because the truth is that there's often quite a lot of smithing involved just in fitting parts. When I wanted to put an extended safety on my Kimber SS Pro-Carry II, I had to fiddle it a bit to make it fit properly and work smoothly. I had to do even more work when replacing my mainspring housing, which needed substantial modification to properly clear the extended beavertail.

Having bought a slightly fancy 1911, before I went to all the trouble of building one I'd want to shoot the S&W M&P .45 sidearm. It seems like a better design. About the 1911's only real advantage over modern pistols is that it will operate in any orientation... but that's assuming that you hold it just right and it doesn't FTE because you didn't hold the grip tight enough, etc etc. But boy, it does have a sweet feel in my big fat hands, very very natural.

Which begs the question, are any of the rifles pretty? They tend to have a very boring or even ugly look. Just personal aesthetics. :-D

Some of the wooden ones, maybe. And I find the P90 attractive in a nerdchic kind of way.

See here: http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Rio-Valu-Hull-12ga-2-3_4-new_primed-blue-10mm-brass-bag_100/productinfo/RIO127010/

And as a later post notes: the small brass cap isn't there to protect the gun from exploding when it's fired. In case you were wondering, I'll tell you what it's for. It's there to ensure reliability of action over a large number of duty cycles. It does that in various ways. The brass cap takes a lot of heat with it if it's ejected directly after the shot (as in a pistol or a rifle). You only need that when you want to be able to sustain a high rate of firing. It also prevents pitting of the barrel, and it ensures low tolerances in the dimension of munitions.

So plastic cartridges are completely feasible for your basic limited-shot hijacker's weapon.

With a little tinkering you can also substitute the percussion cap with something non-metallic too: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-586081.html

If you go with off-the-shelf materials, the only metallic thingies you'll be left with are the primer and the firing pin.

And I bet you can get rid of those too, e.g. a ceramic firing pin and custom-printed plastic primers.

Wearing masks in public illegal in at least 18 states, mostly in the south-east, due to the prevalence of the KKK wearing masks and hoods while terrorizing, burning, lynching, and killing blacks and others:

A couple years ago a Florida newspaper did the same thing with concealed weapons permit holders. They did it the week before a law passed making that list non-public information. Looks like it happened in 2006, so when I saw this NY thing it wasn't the first time something like this happened and they knew it was going to have a major negative reaction just like it did in Florida. Not sure why they are even slightly suprised with the reactions, its exactly what they were hoping for. I might even bet there were no threats and they just hired guards to continue the "story".
The news outlets now work for the government, they no longer work for the people.

Florida - Sorry, I don't feel like looking for a better source, its an old news story.

Since you're too fucking lazy or stupid to do your own research:

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-270374.html

Let me reply in a manner less snarky and more constructive than the AC above me did.

According to people who know better than me:
http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Magazine-Spring-fatigue-t94941.html
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-116436.html

Leaving a spring compressed won't do much harm; spring fatigue comes from the act of compressing it. So, as someone said in the first forum thread, "Load 'em up!".

As someone located in East Texas i feel a little helpless.

The US Federal Judges are Appointed for life as noted elsewhere (TEXAS Judges are voted on so our gun toting citizens do get final say at the state level).

So barring another loony in body armor going crazy with an assault rifle there won't be any quick resolution to this http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=207778

So we are left with the following options.

1) We can ask our Senators and Obama to appoint some Patent Reform minded judge(s) - not sure if there are any openings soon. Maybe Obama would do something that is actually good for Texas.

2) Texas can activate its clause in its original constitution and treaty with the US and secede from the Union - unfortunately this Constitution was amended after the Civil War and this option would no doubt be messier than any Patent Litigation. I'm sure you blue guys would say good riddance but all of you red staters out there would be too envious and we'd probably end up with Civil War II

3) Educate the juries on Patent and Patent Reform. There is 0 public awareness of the patent litigation problem on the street here in East Texas. The reports in the local paper of the patent decisions get read over like little blurbs in the National news. And as we all know the lawyers immediately try to eliminate anyone with any sign of intelligence or free will from the jury pool. I wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper, not sure what else to do.

Any ideas on what could be done by East Texans? Like I mentioned before this is a problem with the U.S. Federal court so we can't use our votes to fix this problem.

You don't even need internet to get fired for what you do off job.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2005-02-16-pregnancy-bias-usat_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-22-pregnant-teacher_x.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4636907.stm

http://businessshrink.biz/psychologyofbusiness/2007/09/27/employees-fired-and-fined-for-smoking-obesity-and-blood-test-results/http://www.digg.com/health/Employees_getting_fired_for_smoking_or_being_obese
http://www.workerscompinsider.com/archives/000587.html
http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2006/11/30/off_the_job_smoker_sues_over_firing/
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-28029.html
google for more

Holy jesus, did McCarthy, Schumer or Feinstein give you that statistic?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=237381 shows testing of a Glaser round; shooting it into ballistics gel shows that this "super-deadly round" penetrates less than a regular ball or hollowpoint round, when fired directly into the block. When fired through two walls, it actually penetrates more, which is completely counter to the Glaser marketing, and barely fragments, which makes it slightly less effective as a normal ball round fired from the same gun.

Lets not make up statistics.

Any bullet moving fast is dangerous, whether it fragments or not, whether it makes a small wound, or a hole you could toss a cat through. However, a bullet is minimally dangerous to an aircraft when compared to a bad guy intent on crashing it/ blowing it up / taking it somewhere its not supposed to go. Unless, of course, its a lithium-powered rechargeable bullet.

Had he contacted any one of a dozen agencies to handle the complaint, he'd be in no legal trouble. The whisteblower law would protect him.

http://www.peeniewallie.com/2006/02/police_station .html

http://thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=2276325&post count=136

From what I've heard, incidents of stalkings and attacks are increasing in the USA. The 'tastes bad' seems to be a myth.

Bears seem to like us just fine. Treadwell hung out with them for a few years, until they ate him.
Lions, Tigers both will attack, kill, and eat humans.

The hunter's theory is that until we discovered 'conservation', we'd gotten so vicious throughout history that we killed any large predators, both because they were competition and a direct threat.

The idea is that by allowing hunting, you both maintain population numbers that can comfortably stay within their ranges(away from humans) and kill the ones least cautious around hunters, thus encouraging them to avoid humans like the plague. Stalking an armed hunter is a far different proposition than an ordinary hiker. There are places in the US that I wouldn't go without being armed or in a large group, and there are a few that I wouldn't go without being part of a large armed group.

Jim March and Gun Owners (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 24, @03:44PM (#14551318)

Jim March of Black Box Voting

Jim March is also active in trying to get a concealed weapons bill passed in California.

http://www.equalccw.com/

http://thehighroad.org/member.php?u=396

Jim March of Black Box Voting

Jim March is also active in trying to get a concealed weapons bill passed in California.

http://www.equalccw.com/

http://thehighroad.org/member.php?u=396

What America lacks is not more gun freedom, but more gun sense. Every yahoo can get a gun, fine, but the real trouble starts when you lose the gun to someone due to poor storage sense. I guess that if the US would try to improve on the huge loss of firearms to criminals every year, the NRA would freak out and go to Capitol Hill chaning the second amendment. I don't see anywhere that the second amendment calls for moronic storage of their firearms? I'm a bit scared when I read bout civilians storing 10+ firearmsin their home, just locking them in a closet. Here, that is punisable because you don't want to give the thieves an edge. Over there, it's "part of my freedom, dangnabbit!".

No. Thanks to the 14th Amendment, most (all? IANAL) Constitutional restrictions on the federal government also apply to state and local government. That is why a school teacher paid from local property taxes in Podunk, Idaho is bound by First Amendment freedom of religion restrictions. And the Peoples' Republic of Berkeley can't outlaw firearms (Second Amendment).

No. Thanks to the 14th Amendment, most (all? IANAL) Constitutional restrictions on the federal government also apply to state and local government. That is why a school teacher paid from local property taxes in Podunk, Idaho is bound by First Amendment freedom of religion restrictions. And the Peoples' Republic of Berkeley can't outlaw firearms (Second Amendment).

We were discussing this on The highroad and the general consensus that these pirates could have been dealt with, permanently, with things varying from various sizes of machine gun(.30-.50+ calibers), to airgun launched grenades/dynamite, over/under shotguns.

Scruitinizing the incident, the articles never seemed to deny the cruise line having firearms, merely that firearms weren't used.

Make sure you know the knife laws for your locality. You might not think of a Leatherman as a weapon, but the local police may disagree--especially around schools and colleges. Here are some useful links:
http://www.thehighroad.org/library/blades/knifelaw s.html
http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/sta-law.htm

California-specific laws:
http://www.equalccw.com/knifelaw.html

Always keep in mind that info on the Internet may be wrong or out of date, so take with appropriate seasonings.

Eric

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid =18516

It's a 158meg Bittorrent file (GEMSDEMO.avi.torrent) - if you have a client installed such as Azureus:

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php ...it'll auto-start.

Playing time is only 15 minutes. File size is that big because it's in 800x600 .AVI :).

I "filmed" it with a screen record utility with audio commentary voice-over. Sound is a bit low, but crank the volume and it'll work. It uses the Intel Indeo codex which I understand is problematic on Macs...sorry. Windoze Media handles it and I would suspect there's some Linux player available?

If anybody here doesn't "get it" yet about how screwed up their "security" (ha!) is, this will do. Makes sense to most non-techies, too.

Jim March broke the news last night over on The High Road; I submitted the story last night, but was rejected. Anyhow, follow the link, and you can read Jim's commentary, and discuss the case with him (he's a senior member and very active participant over at THR). All sorts of little tidbits over there--the suit has been in the works since November, but a gag order was just lifted yesterday. Somebody else mentioned that the plaintiffs get a 30% bounty on the damages, or 20% if the state provides legal assistance (that should be 15%, not 20%, BTW). He also discusses the basis for the fraud suit, and the somewhat unique method (Qui Tam) they've chosen to fight Diebold; he likens it to the tax evasion case against Al Capone. Definitely a good, lively discussion over there; well worth a read.

They tried this on a spokesman for the National Rifle Association. It backfired. "I came *this* close to pulling a knife on his dumbass. Had my hand all the way in my pocket. Paused there, thought better of it."

The Jim March story is presented here. The debate show and their producers have lawyers all over now and will probably find out what happens you keep f*cking with people that have access to good laywers.

MTV degraded so badly in the last decade that they should go under. But then, not a whole lot of TV channels kept up with high standards on both sides of the big pond so I resolved to watching much less TV.

The issue of Schmerber v. California which is relevant to my objection is that it involved a DWI accident. It wasn't merely a random or gratuitous stop, which more recent rulings by SCOTUS show are not allowed under the 4th amendment. See e.g., City of Indianapolis v Edmond.

Nevertheless, I'll grant you that it is rather frightening that Schermber strictly allows for involuntary bodily violations, regardless of the circumstances, and overall I don't doubt that a further expansion of California's DNA database will have no problem passing constitutional muster. Scary.

I'll be sure to look further into this model legislation you mention.