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Found a suitable program for you. It's called iPod rip. It doesn't remove the fairplay DRM, but it will recover the files for you.

iPod Rip for Windows:
http://www.thelittleappfactory.com/software/ipodripwin.php

iPod Rip for Mac:
http://www.thelittleappfactory.com/application.php?app=iPodRip

Found a suitable program for you. It's called iPod rip. It doesn't remove the fairplay DRM, but it will recover the files for you.

iPod Rip for Windows:
http://www.thelittleappfactory.com/software/ipodripwin.php

iPod Rip for Mac:
http://www.thelittleappfactory.com/application.php?app=iPodRip

Yeah, the same thing almost happened to me when my laptop was stolen. Luckily, I still had my iPod, so I used iPodrip to recover my music. Since then, every month or so I check to see how much music I've bought from iTMS and I burn whatever I have to disc. And I've also bought a kensington lock ;-)

So, how do you transfer to an OpenZaurus then? Please enlighten me, twitter. If it requires any special software, you automatically fail.

By Compact Flash or SD and any music player or program that can write to such.

You can transfer from iPod to computer using EphPod and GTKPod. You can plug your iPod into your PC without "self destructing", you either don't have iTunes installed so it won't do anything or you click the "Don't Replace" button when iTunes pops up. So long as you didn't buy your music from iTMS, you can move it around as much as you like.

That all sounds so easy.... for you. No, I don't believe you over what I read in Wikipedia and what people who own the device have told me.

Twitter, you've never used iTunes, you've never used an iPod and you are babbling on about something you only superficially know about from Wikipedia.

That's true. A brief overview of how iPod works is enough for me to not want one. People I know have failed to push the right button at the right time and had to go through a "restore" process he described as a pain in the ass. I'm not giving my money to a company that makes things hard for me and I don't need to. The briefest of google searches pulls up all sorts of problems on iPod besides trying to make it work with free software.

• Having to format the hard drive or lose battery life.
• One of many copy and restore programs, because iTunes apparently does not do what users want.
• A failed restore
• Apple's trouble shooting recommendations.

SHUT THE FUCK UP. Let people who actually know what they are talking about participate in this discussion, you go and sit in the corner and talk to yourself.

No. The discussion I started here is about how people like you reject the iTunes music store. Why don't you tell me about how cool DRM'd music is and how long you have been looking forward to it? Tell me what a cool company Apple is and how all of their stuff does exactly what you want, without modification and how happy you are with your non free iPod. No? tell me about how easy it is to work with Apple and how supportive they have been of GTKpod and others.

It is possible to recover music from your iPod, just not supported. I suppose Apple is getting pressure from the recording industry to not enable this functionality, but a little google searching will turn up five or six apps each for Mac and Windows.

My laptop died a horrible death the other day due to me stupidly checking it in my luggage on an overseas flight. I picked up a new machine on the weekend, and got my entire collection back off my iPod within an hour. I used iPodRip, which, aside from being a little crashy, successfully recovered my collection. It left a temp dir (~/Music/iPodRip/temp) with over 1000 mp3s behind, but I deleted that when I noticed it later.

Sure there are cancers that can be beaten like ALL but what state does it leave the body in to fight off relapses and the obvious immune system deficiences inherent in fighting it? Cases such as this one (story on my company website) are really quite common even though the underlying cancer has been "cured".

The real cure will come when the body can safely shake off cancer and remain in a state that it can survive long term, whether that means the kidneys remain functional or the immune system is not massively compromised. My opinion is that this will only occur when we can synthesize and instruct immune system cells outside the body to attack the underlying cause, whether that be cancer, a virus or even a bacterium. Then they will simply get daily injections of those synthetic cells until they truly are cured.

That day surely cannot be too far away.

Man, you are a better person than me. It is perhaps a little too late to point out a useful little app called ipod rip. I think this one costs - does anyone know is there a free equivalent?

There's also this spiffy-looking Dashflix dashboard thingy, which is only a viewer not an editor, but still neat... and free...

Ephpod will allow windows users the same ability. get it here!

Ephpod runs pretty well under wine.

Yes I know apple doesn't include that ability in iTunes. But that just leaves opportunities open for third party apps. The RIAA can now be more at ease with Apple and can concentrate on suing their customers. I'll bet the number of people who download mp3's and don't own CD's of any music is pretty slim. Lawsuits can only make people more determined not to get caught.

When you change your iPod from PC to Mac it will delete all of the songs you've put on it.

I've had iPodRip recommended to me as a good solution. You can find it on the link below

http://www.thelittleappfactory.com/application.php ?app=iPodRip

The only problem with doing a copy like that is that it doesn't bring across your playlists, play counts or ratings. Also, songs that are .wav's do not have their meta data brought across as they cannot contain any.

Neither of the programs listed in the article seem to do either, and as a developer of this exact type of software, I know how valuable it can be.

Here are some of the options I find worthy (Mac OS X only):
- iPodRip - I wrote this, so it is a plug for me. Recovers everything. Ten unrestricted uses, so feel free to download it, recover and delete it.
- PodWorks - Cheaper than iPodRip but it contains restrictions. Does not recover all meta data.
- Senuti - Does not recover playlists or any meta data. Free, although if you wanted to recover for free, simply use iPodRip and throw it away.

In the end for most users it is all about ease of use and trust. You can't ask the developer of terminal or the Unix command line for assistance, but you can ask the developer of an application. You also may not feel safe in a CLI, where as a GUI can provide that comfort zone. Those apps only require a single button press and that gives users peace of mind.

once upon a time OS X 10.3 messed up my HD completely with the encryption of a large file and not enough HD space. that meant total system crash, and therefore mp3 collection gone. after searching around, i came across ipodrip which trivially restored my data off the ipod. costs $10, but then $10 compared to a whole music collection is peanuts -- and you want to support the smart guys who figured out to undo the weirdness of the ipod filesystem...

If you had authorized the laptop, you would have been able to play from the iPod, but only if you DIDN'T synch. There is a program called iPodRip that you can use to copy the songs from the iPod to your hard drive and then add them to iTunes (and again, if you authorize the laptop, you're all set). The no multiple downloads thing is a bad idea, I think, but the one-way synching was a requirement imposed by the major record labels.

http://www.thelittleappfactory.com/application.php ?app=iPodRip iPodRip, your friend next time.

My 20GB 2nd-gen iPod (as in, the no-dock variety) was giving me trouble too, so I restored it to factory settings, and the install worked fine. Just make sure you pull off anything you can't live without (if you need to pull the songs off, I'd recommend iPodRip or iPod Access). Good luck to ya!