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Better english language source
http://www.thelocal.se/42952/20120901/ The local is a news source for sweden translated for english speaking audience.
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Re:I saw an angry Canadian a long time ago
Well at least a mouse is pretty small.
A drunk moose on the other hand....http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/140084/just-a-drunk-swedish-moose-hanging-out-in-a-tree/
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Re:That's nice
You're mixing up two different accusations.
Go read up on the Assange case and get back to me before you spend to much time barking up the wrong tree.
Could you shine the light up there? I think I see something.
New details emerge about Assange accusers
The rape allegations stem from later that night at Miss W's home: the British court heard that Assange had sex with her without a condom while she was asleep.
The following morning, they had breakfast together, and "in an attempt to de-dramatise what happened", she made "sarcastic comments".
She then took him back to the train station and he promised to call her.
Defence lawyer Claes Borgström said the two women later discovered they had both had similar experiences with Assange and went to the police on August 20.
"They were not sure they wanted to (press charges), they wanted to get advice" and were also worried they could have contracted HIV, Borgström told reporters earlier this month.
"When they told the police officer, a woman, she realised that what (the women) were telling her about was a crime. She reported that to the public prosecutor who decided to arrest Assange," the lawyer said.
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Re:Why bother?
I cannot say what kind of rape it is, obviously, but the statistics are real. But there have been cases of false accusations of rape in Sweden, just any other country nowadays.
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Re:Why bother?
"Rape"? The case involves him failing to use a condom. The ladies involved have recanted. The prosecutor tried to drop the charges.
The allegations against him include rape a molestation. The women didn't consent to have sex with him at that time, in that way. That is sexual assault.
The women appealed to have the charges reinstated.
One prosecutor did drop the investigation, and another reinstated it shortly afterwards.How do you not know this?
This whole thing is so disgustingly shady that anyone who spends more than 5 minutes looking at it realizes it's a set up to try and get him into a US or UK controlled area so he can be disposed of properly.
Assange was in UK controlled territory for well over a year. If they wanted to dispose of him they could have done so at any time. The fact of the matter is that they were holding him to extradite him to Sweden to face the justice system.
What is shady is the way people keep repeating things that aren't true about this case. Have you spent at least five minutes looking into things? If you have you must have looked in the wrong place as you're spreading disinformation.
Renewed rape suspicions for WikiLeaks' Assange
A Swedish duty prosecutor issued an arrest warrant for Assange on August 20th over rape allegations. But chief prosecutor Eva Finne abruptly withdrew it the next day, saying new information had come to light.
Then last week Finne said there was no reason to believe a crime had been committed, adding however that she had enough evidence to keep looking into a molestation allegation from another woman against Assange.
The lawyer for Assange's alleged victims, Claes Borgstroem, lodged an appeal against Finne's decision to a special department in the public prosecutions office.
Assange, 39, has said the allegations against him are part of a "smear campaign" aimed at discrediting his whistleblowing website, which is locked in a row with the Pentagon over the release of secret US documents about the war in Afghanistan.
Ny, head of the department that oversees prosecution of sex crimes in particular, overturned Finne's decision on the rape claim, and also said the investigation into the molestation claim would be extended.
Rather than the prosecution of Assange being political, it looks to me more like dropping the changes and the many defenses of Assange using false information are political.
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Re:"Hunted like a terrorist"?
It starts with Sweden clearing him for travel. And he does so.
You don't need any clearance to travel and Sweden didn't issue any such thing. Unless an arrest warrant is placed on your head you can leave as you please. And Assange did leave.
After his lawyer was notified that an arrest warrant is coming his way
Then, he is called back.
He is not just 'called back'. An arrest warrant was placed on his head. Because he was abroad a European Arrest Warrant was issued and served. Then Assange used every possibility to fight extradition.
He's a suspicious sort, and offers to come back if he gets a guarantee he won't be extradited to the US. Sweden said no. He offers to meet in person, in the UK. But Sweden said no.
Here's where your story really stops adding up. He didn't offer a thing. He fought the arrest the best he could and when he lost he skipped bail and hid in Ecuadorean embassy. Only after that he and Ecuadorian officials started giving interviews and statements where they demanded he'll be given assurances.
Feel free to correct me and show what official way he used to ask to be interviewed on the English soil.
Sweden has not charged him with any crime.
This is the favorite spiel of Assange's lawyer. Yes, he has not been charged. An arrest warrant was issued and under Swedish law he cannot be charged before he is actually arrested.
Why has Sweden said "no" to ever offer?
What offers did he make to 'Sweden'? Through what channels? And when? Citation needed!
I'm not sure on the timeline, but I didn't think that Julian was a criminal at the time Ecuador initially extended the offer for asylum.
Yes, you are clearly not sure on the timeline. But regardless of timelines, I doubt his bail conditions included stepping on Ecuadorian soil.
I didn't think it that unusual, other than the lengths that Sweden has gone to to get Julian back after they told him they would not charge him and he was released and told he could go.
Sweden issued an arrest warrant. Assange escaped Sweden. Then the Swedish prosecutor issued an European Arrest Warrant, sent it to Interpol and requested extradition.
That's it. That's all the length that the prosecutor has gone through. All the rest is Assange's and his lawyers theatrics
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Re:Yeah
And they want him back in Gothenburg (Goteborg), not Stockholm, very, very odd --- oh yeah, that's where "Extreme Rendition Airlines" a k a, Jeppesen Systems AB is located!
The prosecutors are in Stockholm. The court that issued the warrant is in Stockholm. But where the Swedish government would really like to see him is in Sweden, before the prosecutor, answering the allegations against him, just like any other alleged criminal, and not being a fugitive from justice. Most fairy tales begin with "Once upon a time", but on Slashdot they currently begin with, "No, no! The US is too clever to extradite Assange from Britain directly, because the extradition treaty would make that too easy! Once the US gets Assange to Sweden they'll secretly. . . ". To be blunt, your post is pure bull - popular bull - but still bull.
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Re:Yeah
And they want him back in Gothenburg (Goteborg), not Stockholm, very, very odd --- oh yeah, that's where "Extreme Rendition Airlines" a k a, Jeppesen Systems AB is located!
The prosecutors are in Stockholm. The court that issued the warrant is in Stockholm. But where the Swedish government would really like to see him is in Sweden, before the prosecutor, answering the allegations against him, just like any other alleged criminal, and not being a fugitive from justice. Most fairy tales begin with "Once upon a time", but on Slashdot they currently begin with, "No, no! The US is too clever to extradite Assange from Britain directly, because the extradition treaty would make that too easy! Once the US gets Assange to Sweden they'll secretly. . . ". To be blunt, your post is pure bull - popular bull - but still bull.
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Re:On extradition
He should stand trial.
He offered to go there and stand trial if the Swedish government would garantee they wouldn't send him to the USA. The Swedish government refused.
To me it seems the whole 'rape' thing is a setup. What would you do in the same circumstances?
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Re:Good
The hard facts are:
a) Extraditing Julian Assange from the UK is not necessarily easier than from Sweden. Sweden definitely has special agreements with the USA for 'temporary' transfer, with little paperwork or judicial process involved.
b) Julian Assange offered to go to Sweden if they would garantee he wouldn't be transferred to the USA. They said they wouldn't garantee that.To me, point (b) pretty much means they will send him to the USA.
There's also the matter of Hillary Clinton's visit to Sweden a few days before Julian Assange was due to be extradited.
a) The first visit to Sweden by a US secretary of state in 30-something years
b) By somebody who's taking the whole Wikileaks/Julian Assange thing very personallyWhat's that all about...?
(Yeah, I know that's conspiracy-nut territory but, come on...that's one hell of a coincidence)
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Re:On extradition
The fact that "rape" cases in Sweden are 8 times higger than in Denmark, gives us all the info we need about these crap cases and feministocracy Sweden is becoming
Wow, then we should all be so lucky as to move to Lesotho, where there's double the rape rate as in Sweden. What a feminist paradise! But then again, given that only 5-10% of rapes in Sweden are reported and Sweden has the lowest conviction rate on rape in Europe, I guess that helps improve its "feministocracy", right?
Do you realize how weird your argument is, rating a place's progress on feminism *positively* correlated with the number of rapes?
To wrap that up...
In its conclusion, Amnesty blames "deeply rooted patriarchal gender norms" of Swedish family life and sexual relationships as a "major societal flaw" and a reason for the continued prevalence of violence against women in Sweden.
To continue:
Well, this guy's penins, must be 1 in 5 bilions, cause it willingly seems to be able to "do something" to condoms and rip them at its own will.
You realize that Assange is not a quadruple amputee, right? And amazing that you managed to miss... well, the entire rest of that article, including him pinning her down, her only consenting to protected sex in order to avoid him having unprotected sex with her against her will, her feeling so unsafe afterwards because of the "violent sex" (as she referred to it to a friend that night) that she moved out of her own apartment until he left, etc. And that's just one of the two women.
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An even more generous example
http://www.thelocal.se/41536/20120619/
Family-run firm Nominit in Värnamo, southern Sweden, will be paying out 114 million kronor ($16.3 million) to their current and former employees in a gesture of goodwill. The company was founded in 1937 and is the two founders and owners have no heirs to their fortune. The company, which currently has about 50 employees, manufactures rivets and has a turnover of about 100 million kronor, of which 60 comes from export.
$16,000,000 to 50 workers.
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Re:[Stupid] move
To summarize: It's the inconsistency of the whole affair that looks odd. They seriously reopened a case that was previously said to be baseless, initiated an international manhunt for one of the mildest possible sex crimes defined anywhere in the civilized world, and then put the guy in solitary?
I'm afraid you're misinformed.
Renewed rape suspicions for WikiLeaks' Assange
"There is reason to believe that a crime has been committed. Considering information available at present, my judgement is that the classification of the crime is rape," director of prosecutions Marianne Ny said in a statement.
"The basis for further considerations is not sufficient at the moment. More investigations are necessary before a final decision can be made (concerning possible charges)," she added.
A Swedish duty prosecutor issued an arrest warrant for Assange on August 20th over rape allegations. But chief prosecutor Eva Finne abruptly withdrew it the next day, saying new information had come to light.
Then last week Finne said there was no reason to believe a crime had been committed, adding however that she had enough evidence to keep looking into a molestation allegation from another woman against Assange.
The lawyer for Assange's alleged victims, Claes Borgstroem, lodged an appeal against Finne's decision to a special department in the public prosecutions office. . . .
Ny, head of the department that oversees prosecution of sex crimes in particular, overturned Finne's decision on the rape claim, and also said the investigation into the molestation claim would be extended.
"Based on the information available, the crimes in question come under the heading of sexual coercion and sexual molestation," she said.
Ny told AFP that overturning another prosecutor's decision was "not an ordinary (procedure), but not so out of the ordinary either."
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Re:[Stupid] move
The prosecutor was asked several times to come to London during the last 450+ days of house arrest but refused without saying why.
Or even better, why didn't they fly a judge from Sweden to the UK to have the trial there, acquit Assange, and send him on his way? Isn't that the way that Justice normally works? When the suspect refuses to return and fights extradition, don't you normally fly the judge to them? Is that what your country does? Why not? Do you claim that they "refused without saying why"? You seem to have a very odd view of how the judicial system works in any country, let alone Sweden.
If a prosecutor is enough of a "judicial authority" (not in this country they aren't) to authorise a EAW then the Swedish embassy is Swedish enough to be a venue for questioning.
Yes, and the point must be made once against that Sweden has its own legal system with different laws and customs than yours. There is more than one country in the EU in which prosecutors are considered judicial authorities, so there is nothing odd there. Now tell us, when has your country flown a judge or prosecutor to a foreign country to interrogate a suspect in a rape case who is a fugitive from justice and refuses to return? Why do you think Sweden should adopt this unusual practice and not your country?
Then something weird and as yet unexplained happened and another prosecutor decided he was guilty of something without including the two women the original questioning had been about.
It isn't unexplained, or weird, you are just uninformed.
Renewed rape suspicions for WikiLeaks' Assange
"There is reason to believe that a crime has been committed. Considering information available at present, my judgement is that the classification of the crime is rape," director of prosecutions Marianne Ny said in a statement.
"The basis for further considerations is not sufficient at the moment. More investigations are necessary before a final decision can be made (concerning possible charges)," she added.
A Swedish duty prosecutor issued an arrest warrant for Assange on August 20th over rape allegations. But chief prosecutor Eva Finne abruptly withdrew it the next day, saying new information had come to light.
Then last week Finne said there was no reason to believe a crime had been committed, adding however that she had enough evidence to keep looking into a molestation allegation from another woman against Assange.
The lawyer for Assange's alleged victims, Claes Borgstroem, lodged an appeal against Finne's decision to a special department in the public prosecutions office. . . .
Ny, head of the department that oversees prosecution of sex crimes in particular, overturned Finne's decision on the rape claim, and also said the investigation into the molestation claim would be extended.
"Based on the information available, the crimes in question come under the heading of sexual coercion and sexual molestation," she said.
Ny told AFP that overturning another prosecutor's decision was "not an ordinary (procedure), but not so out of the ordinary either."
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Re:Time to invest in EMC...
perhaps Sweden or Norway
Is Sweden all that safe anymore? After the issues with The Pirate Bay and Julian Assange, and crazy shit like this, Sweden doesn't seem that appealing anymore.
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Re:CP produced without sexual abuse of children
Supreme court in Sweden is expected to determine if manga is child porn in a few weeks.
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Not the first study on it by any means
This is roughly 2 years ago, and the study then concluded the same thing. Hey figure that back 100+ years ago, Oscar Levant wisecracked himself with the "There's a fine line between genius and insanity." Go back through classical literature on figures writing about others, and you see the same thing. Genius and Insanity are on the same coin, it's how far between the halves that makes your brain go round.
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Re:On reading the future
It must be a friend of Peter's mom: Sigbritt, 75, has world's fastest broadband
Something Scandanavians seem to desire is high-powered space heaters and clothes dryers and someone to exchange their HDTV video with during the long winter nights.
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40,960 Mbps has already been done.
Not the first:
A 75 year old woman was first. -
Re:Gee there's a surprise
It's sillier than you think: as yet there are still no charges he has to face in Sweden. My understanding is that he is wanted for questioning only. The first prosecutor in Sweden tossed the case because there was no evidence. Somehow, a second prosecutor has gotten involved, and has put in this unprecedented request for extradition for "questioning" while there still have been no civil or criminal charges laid against him by the Swedish police.
You don't quite have that right.
Lawyer appeals decision on Assange case Renewed rape suspicions for WikiLeaks' Assange
Neither of the articles you posted contradict what I said. In fact, they confirm it. The first article explains that the lawyer for the accusers didn't like the fact that the first senior prosecutor didn't think that Assange had a case to answer, and so the lawyer went crying to a second prosecutor to get a second opinion. This isn't even allowed in most countries. While the second prosecutor wants to speak to Assange, there is nothing in that article about charges having been laid.
The second article you posted also has nothing about charges being made. In fact, the second paragraph of that article specifically says:
"The basis for further considerations is not sufficient at the moment. More investigations are necessary before a final decision can be made (concerning possible charges)," she added.
The part I bolded explicitly makes clear that no charges have been made.
And let's also not forget that while Assange was in Sweden, he tried to comply with police requests as much as possible, to the point of saying to the Swedish police, "OK, I'm leaving the country now, is there anything else I have to do to help sort this out?" He left Sweden thinking that this was all over and done with.
I doubt that given this: Julian Assange applies for Swedish residency
Strange, hmmm? Applies for residency and then flees the country?
He did go to the police station to be interviewed before he left. While he probably intended to return to Sweden and stay and work, his trip to London was already planned. I don't blame him for not wanting to return to Sweden now. He is Australian, and so knows very well the importance of steering clear of countries with kangaroo courts.
With a nickname of "cold fjord", I'll assume that you are nordic, so I want you to understand that I am not impugning Sweden. There are lots of things I like about that country (free tertiary education for everyone as an example), but there are several things from when Sweden was a pure monarchy left over in Sweden's judicial system which are not democratic. It is important in a functioning democracy to separate the judicial authority from the police and prosecutorial authority. Sweden doesn't do that yet, and it leads to the abuses of authority we see here. It should be a judge that signs off on an interpol warrant, when sufficient evidence is provided to him, not a prosecutor without any evidence trying to make a big high-profile arrest.
Assange has been publicly accused of being a sex criminal with only the word of two spurned women as evidence. Nothing else. And both those women were perfectly happy until they happened to meet each other and realized that they had both slept with the same man. This situation would never have gotten this far if the justice system in Sweden was separated on correct lines.
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Re:Gee there's a surprise
It's sillier than you think: as yet there are still no charges he has to face in Sweden. My understanding is that he is wanted for questioning only. The first prosecutor in Sweden tossed the case because there was no evidence. Somehow, a second prosecutor has gotten involved, and has put in this unprecedented request for extradition for "questioning" while there still have been no civil or criminal charges laid against him by the Swedish police.
You don't quite have that right.
Lawyer appeals decision on Assange case Renewed rape suspicions for WikiLeaks' Assange
Neither of the articles you posted contradict what I said. In fact, they confirm it. The first article explains that the lawyer for the accusers didn't like the fact that the first senior prosecutor didn't think that Assange had a case to answer, and so the lawyer went crying to a second prosecutor to get a second opinion. This isn't even allowed in most countries. While the second prosecutor wants to speak to Assange, there is nothing in that article about charges having been laid.
The second article you posted also has nothing about charges being made. In fact, the second paragraph of that article specifically says:
"The basis for further considerations is not sufficient at the moment. More investigations are necessary before a final decision can be made (concerning possible charges)," she added.
The part I bolded explicitly makes clear that no charges have been made.
And let's also not forget that while Assange was in Sweden, he tried to comply with police requests as much as possible, to the point of saying to the Swedish police, "OK, I'm leaving the country now, is there anything else I have to do to help sort this out?" He left Sweden thinking that this was all over and done with.
I doubt that given this: Julian Assange applies for Swedish residency
Strange, hmmm? Applies for residency and then flees the country?
He did go to the police station to be interviewed before he left. While he probably intended to return to Sweden and stay and work, his trip to London was already planned. I don't blame him for not wanting to return to Sweden now. He is Australian, and so knows very well the importance of steering clear of countries with kangaroo courts.
With a nickname of "cold fjord", I'll assume that you are nordic, so I want you to understand that I am not impugning Sweden. There are lots of things I like about that country (free tertiary education for everyone as an example), but there are several things from when Sweden was a pure monarchy left over in Sweden's judicial system which are not democratic. It is important in a functioning democracy to separate the judicial authority from the police and prosecutorial authority. Sweden doesn't do that yet, and it leads to the abuses of authority we see here. It should be a judge that signs off on an interpol warrant, when sufficient evidence is provided to him, not a prosecutor without any evidence trying to make a big high-profile arrest.
Assange has been publicly accused of being a sex criminal with only the word of two spurned women as evidence. Nothing else. And both those women were perfectly happy until they happened to meet each other and realized that they had both slept with the same man. This situation would never have gotten this far if the justice system in Sweden was separated on correct lines.
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Re:Gee there's a surprise
It's sillier than you think: as yet there are still no charges he has to face in Sweden. My understanding is that he is wanted for questioning only. The first prosecutor in Sweden tossed the case because there was no evidence. Somehow, a second prosecutor has gotten involved, and has put in this unprecedented request for extradition for "questioning" while there still have been no civil or criminal charges laid against him by the Swedish police.
You don't quite have that right.
Lawyer appeals decision on Assange case Renewed rape suspicions for WikiLeaks' Assange
Neither of the articles you posted contradict what I said. In fact, they confirm it. The first article explains that the lawyer for the accusers didn't like the fact that the first senior prosecutor didn't think that Assange had a case to answer, and so the lawyer went crying to a second prosecutor to get a second opinion. This isn't even allowed in most countries. While the second prosecutor wants to speak to Assange, there is nothing in that article about charges having been laid.
The second article you posted also has nothing about charges being made. In fact, the second paragraph of that article specifically says:
"The basis for further considerations is not sufficient at the moment. More investigations are necessary before a final decision can be made (concerning possible charges)," she added.
The part I bolded explicitly makes clear that no charges have been made.
And let's also not forget that while Assange was in Sweden, he tried to comply with police requests as much as possible, to the point of saying to the Swedish police, "OK, I'm leaving the country now, is there anything else I have to do to help sort this out?" He left Sweden thinking that this was all over and done with.
I doubt that given this: Julian Assange applies for Swedish residency
Strange, hmmm? Applies for residency and then flees the country?
He did go to the police station to be interviewed before he left. While he probably intended to return to Sweden and stay and work, his trip to London was already planned. I don't blame him for not wanting to return to Sweden now. He is Australian, and so knows very well the importance of steering clear of countries with kangaroo courts.
With a nickname of "cold fjord", I'll assume that you are nordic, so I want you to understand that I am not impugning Sweden. There are lots of things I like about that country (free tertiary education for everyone as an example), but there are several things from when Sweden was a pure monarchy left over in Sweden's judicial system which are not democratic. It is important in a functioning democracy to separate the judicial authority from the police and prosecutorial authority. Sweden doesn't do that yet, and it leads to the abuses of authority we see here. It should be a judge that signs off on an interpol warrant, when sufficient evidence is provided to him, not a prosecutor without any evidence trying to make a big high-profile arrest.
Assange has been publicly accused of being a sex criminal with only the word of two spurned women as evidence. Nothing else. And both those women were perfectly happy until they happened to meet each other and realized that they had both slept with the same man. This situation would never have gotten this far if the justice system in Sweden was separated on correct lines.
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Re:Gee there's a surprise
It's sillier than you think: as yet there are still no charges he has to face in Sweden. My understanding is that he is wanted for questioning only. The first prosecutor in Sweden tossed the case because there was no evidence. Somehow, a second prosecutor has gotten involved, and has put in this unprecedented request for extradition for "questioning" while there still have been no civil or criminal charges laid against him by the Swedish police.
You don't quite have that right.
Lawyer appeals decision on Assange case
Renewed rape suspicions for WikiLeaks' AssangeAnd let's also not forget that while Assange was in Sweden, he tried to comply with police requests as much as possible, to the point of saying to the Swedish police, "OK, I'm leaving the country now, is there anything else I have to do to help sort this out?" He left Sweden thinking that this was all over and done with.
I doubt that given this: Julian Assange applies for Swedish residency
Strange, hmmm? Applies for residency and then flees the country?
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Re:Gee there's a surprise
It's sillier than you think: as yet there are still no charges he has to face in Sweden. My understanding is that he is wanted for questioning only. The first prosecutor in Sweden tossed the case because there was no evidence. Somehow, a second prosecutor has gotten involved, and has put in this unprecedented request for extradition for "questioning" while there still have been no civil or criminal charges laid against him by the Swedish police.
You don't quite have that right.
Lawyer appeals decision on Assange case
Renewed rape suspicions for WikiLeaks' AssangeAnd let's also not forget that while Assange was in Sweden, he tried to comply with police requests as much as possible, to the point of saying to the Swedish police, "OK, I'm leaving the country now, is there anything else I have to do to help sort this out?" He left Sweden thinking that this was all over and done with.
I doubt that given this: Julian Assange applies for Swedish residency
Strange, hmmm? Applies for residency and then flees the country?
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Re:Gee there's a surprise
It's sillier than you think: as yet there are still no charges he has to face in Sweden. My understanding is that he is wanted for questioning only. The first prosecutor in Sweden tossed the case because there was no evidence. Somehow, a second prosecutor has gotten involved, and has put in this unprecedented request for extradition for "questioning" while there still have been no civil or criminal charges laid against him by the Swedish police.
You don't quite have that right.
Lawyer appeals decision on Assange case
Renewed rape suspicions for WikiLeaks' AssangeAnd let's also not forget that while Assange was in Sweden, he tried to comply with police requests as much as possible, to the point of saying to the Swedish police, "OK, I'm leaving the country now, is there anything else I have to do to help sort this out?" He left Sweden thinking that this was all over and done with.
I doubt that given this: Julian Assange applies for Swedish residency
Strange, hmmm? Applies for residency and then flees the country?
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Re:UK...
I must admit, it is easy to forget an important detail: the original prosecutor dropped the case entirely, citing a lack of evidence. Sounds pretty nebulous to me...
Not really, no.
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Re:UK...
I must admit, it is easy to forget an important detail: the original prosecutor dropped the case entirely, citing a lack of evidence. Sounds pretty nebulous to me...
Not really, no.
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Re:The story so far
In case you have forgotten, the charges against Julian Assange were already dropped by the original prosecutor in the case, due to a lack of evidence, and new charges have not even been filed.
You don't quite have that right in detail and flavor.
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Re:The story so far
In case you have forgotten, the charges against Julian Assange were already dropped by the original prosecutor in the case, due to a lack of evidence, and new charges have not even been filed.
You don't quite have that right in detail and flavor.
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Re:I'm confused
What Julian did was have *consensual sex* with two different women. Neither woman was angry with him, until several days later when they met one another and discovered he was a two-timer. THEN they decided to accuse him of "not wearing a condom" during the consensual sex. THAT'S what Julian is being charged with, and it's a bunch of bullshit.
Assange allegedly engaged in intercourse with a sleeping woman - you can't give consent if you are asleep. Beyond that, she had only previously consented to intercourse if he wore a condom - which he wasn't when he began intercourse while she was asleep. Now, what is sexual intercourse without consent? Four letters, starts with an "R".
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that fraud is rampant .......now why would anyone think that?????
http://www.thelocal.se/39070/20120213/
So far, around 150 children in Sweden have developed narcolepsy from the Pandemrixswine flu vaccine, but that number could rise, according to Tomas Norberg, chair of the Swedish Narcolepsy Association (Narkolepsiföreningen).
http://dangerousprescriptiondrugs.weebly.com/flu-vaccine--narcolepsy.html
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=10
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Legislative_Exchange_Council
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Gulags in Sweden
Yes, because gulags are a real problem in countries like Sweden.
And tax rates in Sweden pushing upwards to 74% when all the "hidden taxes" are included does not constitute a kind of gulag?
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Re:Apple / Macintosh's ideal of a closed system
Most profitable company
Record iPad sales.
Record iPhone sales.Apple takes 52% of all smartphone profits
Apple takes 66% of all smartphone profits
Apple takes 75% of all smartphone profitsHow long before they are at 100%?
LG Posts net loss
Motorola Mobility net loss
Sony Ericsson net lossWhat do you think will happen to android market share when every company stops making them because they went out of business?
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Re:Sweden???!!!
I'd be more worried about data breaches and server seizures due to their crazy politicians, crazy justice system! and willingness to bend over for all manner of privacy invading measures to satisfy foreign interests. It will be a hot day in Iceland before we move any servers to Sweden. Go Iceland!
You have to be careful trusting the Local for news. We have them in Switzerland too, same company, and all they do is poorly translate then over-sensationalize stories. Can't speak for the other sources, though.
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Sweden???!!!
I'd be more worried about data breaches and server seizures due to their crazy politicians, crazy justice system! and willingness to bend over for all manner of privacy invading measures to satisfy foreign interests. It will be a hot day in Iceland before we move any servers to Sweden. Go Iceland!
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Re:Always torn on these cases
In Sweden 150 kids got narcolepsy after vaccination. That's quite a lot. Citation: http://www.thelocal.se/39070/20120213/
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Re:Homelessness Doesn't Break the American Dream.
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Germany, The Netherlands, just to mention a few.
Bullshit, bullshit, and more bullshit, just to name a few.
We take care of our people here, no matter how desperate their situations.
You sure do.
You know when people start saying stuff that is
... not just stupid, but as utterly absurd as what you just said... I have to wonder ... are you really that stupid? Or do you think that everyone else is?This is like Ahmadinejad standing up in front of the audience at Columbia, and, with a straight face, telling them there are no homosexuals in Iran. "We don't have that phenomenon, like you do in the US. I don't know who told you we have". Your statements are on that level of absurdity. The immediate response of any rational individual is uncontrollable laughter. Why would you say something like that?
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Re:I just got back from a job fair today
Which is why some politicians, unions, researchers and even some companies are promoting the 6 hours a day workday.
http://www.6hourday.org/ http://www.informationweek.com/news/6502155 http://www.petitiononline.com/6hourday/petition.html http://dollarsandsense.org/archives/2001/0901mutari.htmlBe well rested, happy and then work more effectively for shorter time produces better end result than less effective work over longer time. Apparently. Maybe more applicable for office / knowledge workers, not so much for tollbooth attendants, truck drivers, shop keepers. But you could say a happy rested waiter gets more tips than a tired snappy one...
Although the 6h day has also been discredited by other researchers. http://www.thelocal.se/2238/20051007/
Personally I think 6 hours is not the solution. It takes a while before I find my flow, my coding happy zone, http://memeagora.blogspot.com/2008/10/code-forrest-code.html and 6 hours would mean most of day is wasted on meetings, lunch, and other interruptions. 40 hours seems a good balance.
Having just had 21 fully paid weeks off last year due to 14 weeks paternity leave and the rest as holiday I shouldn't complain about Norwegian vacation laws.
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Re:I'm shocked
How can people be expected to take a group with such a name seriously?
If you care to look beyond your preconceived notions of what "pirate" means in this context you might realize that the political ideas in the Pirate Party movement (elected representatives into both international as well as local parliaments) are those many in the digital population agree with.
Rick Falkvinge, personally, was selected as a Top 100 Global Thinker by Foreign Policy magazine recently: http://www.thelocal.se/37642/20111129/
Tell me, why should we take your posts seriously?
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Fuck Sweden!
The "conservative" government of Swedens wants Ericsson to make lots of money selling mobile networks to Syria:
http://www.stockholmnews.com/more.aspx?NID=8116
http://www.thelocal.se/37720/20111203/
PEN club is diappoint:
http://www.pen-international.org/12/2011/ericsson-in-syria-statement-from-swedish-pen/
Fuck you, Swedish government.
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Re:For non US-filtered search results
You are also aware that you can be prosecuted for creating child pornography for taking pictures of your baby.
No, that is wrong. The law says that child pornography is an image designed to be sexually provocative. There was a case years back when the law was brought in where an artist exhibited nude pictures of her children at the beach. The police looked into it and decided not to prosecute. Of course the definition of "sexually provocative" is fuzzy and basically boils down to a judgement call by a jury, but generally speaking photos of your children in the bath or whatever are fine.
Maybe I was fuzzy about the arrested / prosecuted angle, but still:
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/are-bathtime-photos-pornographic/
http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2010/11/naked-baby-photos-lead-to-parents-arrest.html
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Re:Where's the potential?
I get that this is the Nobel prize - but these people appear to have already accomplished something. Indeed, the noteworthy achievement for which they are receiving the prize is over a decade in the past. I thought the Nobel prize was awarded to encourage responsible action?
As noted, this is the Nobel Prize in Physics, which is to be awarded to "the person who shall have made the most important discovery or invention within the field of physics"
Look at the photo at the linked article - three white males.
OK, fine. Yeah, the physics prize has mostly gone to white males, but there's C. V. Raman (if "Indian" counts as "non-white"), Hideki Yukawa, Tsung-Dao Lee, Chen Ning Yang, Sin-Itiro Tomonaga, Leo Esaki, Samuel C. C. Ting, Abdus Salam (if "Pakistani" counts as "non-white"), Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar (see previous comments), Steven Chu, Daniel C. Tsui, Masatoshi Koshiba, Makoto Kobayashi, Toshihide Maskawa, Yoichiro Nambu, and Charles K. Kao. Oh, yeah, and Marie Skodowska Curie and Maria Goeppert-Mayer.
By the way, what the hell is up with "dividing" a Nobel prize like it's some sort of peach pie? Half for one white male, while the other two share the other half?
Not all "most important [discoveries] or [inventions] within the field of physics" - or any of the other fields for which there are Nobel prizes - can be uniquely credited to one individual. (And sometimes it's split between Asians, or between an Asian and a white guy, or....
:-))Who comes up with this stuff?
The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences. (Hint: you may think that as a random geek with a
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Re:A real problem?Monthly salary for a teaching assistant in Sweden: 19 500 Swedish kronor = 2 835.456 U.S. dollars
(source: http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=14142)
Cost of GPS widget: 25 U.S. dollars
If it saves 2 hours a year per child (2835 / month ~= 100 a day ~= US$ 25 for 2 hrs) , it's worth it.
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Re:Overkill much?
I don't think its the kind of raid you see before you. I'm guessing they came by, knocked on the door and asked to see his experiment, then asked him to join them to the police station for questioning and took the equipment. Not exactly kicking down the door with a full swat team swarming into the apartment kind of raid.
No indeed, that kind of raid is reserved for more severe criminal cases, such as people harbouring hedgehogs in Hälsingland.
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Re:What are you in for?
She was caring for a hedgehog. From the same source... http://www.thelocal.se/35230/20110729/ Those Sweeds are a bunch of criminals!
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Re:Funny...
Essentially every Nordic country? That's Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and Iceland?
Meanwhile, in the aforementioned Nordic countries....
- Officers charged for assaulting whistleblower
Cops probed for beating handicapped driver
Police brutality caught on tape
Nigerian man beaten to death by Trondheim Police
Danish police beating unarmed civillians
Five Finnish narcotics police to face misconduct charges
Photographers pepper-sprayed in Iceland
Mind you, I don't doubt that each of these countries has a better police force than the US. I'm sure they have the best police on Earth!
But even so, it seems to me that Nordic civilians might occasionally have cause to record their own generally-trustworthy police.
- Officers charged for assaulting whistleblower
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Re:Funny...
Essentially every Nordic country? That's Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and Iceland?
Meanwhile, in the aforementioned Nordic countries....
- Officers charged for assaulting whistleblower
Cops probed for beating handicapped driver
Police brutality caught on tape
Nigerian man beaten to death by Trondheim Police
Danish police beating unarmed civillians
Five Finnish narcotics police to face misconduct charges
Photographers pepper-sprayed in Iceland
Mind you, I don't doubt that each of these countries has a better police force than the US. I'm sure they have the best police on Earth!
But even so, it seems to me that Nordic civilians might occasionally have cause to record their own generally-trustworthy police.
- Officers charged for assaulting whistleblower
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Re:Funny...
Essentially every Nordic country? That's Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and Iceland?
Meanwhile, in the aforementioned Nordic countries....
- Officers charged for assaulting whistleblower
Cops probed for beating handicapped driver
Police brutality caught on tape
Nigerian man beaten to death by Trondheim Police
Danish police beating unarmed civillians
Five Finnish narcotics police to face misconduct charges
Photographers pepper-sprayed in Iceland
Mind you, I don't doubt that each of these countries has a better police force than the US. I'm sure they have the best police on Earth!
But even so, it seems to me that Nordic civilians might occasionally have cause to record their own generally-trustworthy police.
- Officers charged for assaulting whistleblower
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Re:And so what?
Well, and Julian Assange... who... gets called a terrorist....
Actually he is allegedly a rapist.
Sweden renews Assange arrest warrantThe Stockholm district court had ordered on November 18th an arrest warrant for Assange for questioning on suspicions of "rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion" in Sweden in August.
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Gallery
Man, have you seen the photo gallery on the original post site? http://www.thelocal.se/gallery/nightlife/ You gotta love Sweden.