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iPhone batteries "die in 40 minutes"

Apple fanboys kill the messenger

By Nick Farrell: Friday 06 April 2007, 07:14

APPLE FANBOYS have really been going for hack John C Dvorak after one of his sources in Cingular told him the iPhone's batteries lasted just 40 minutes.
During Episode 93 of the spodcast this Week in Tech (TWiT)Dvorak said he received information from "a guy at Cingular who's testing the product." The unnamed, male Cingular employee told Dvorak "there's lots of issues" with the iPhone.

Dvorak said that the iPhone was blighted with not having a removable battery, so "you run 20 minutes and you're using up half the battery power. You get 40 minutes total talk time. And the interface fouls up constantly."

The Cingular geezer or geezerette asked Dvorak not to tell anyone. OK it is a "man in the pub told me" style story, but it does not mean that there is no truth behind it. Certainly it is an odd thing to make up.

But the fan boys are up in arms about the comment and every where the story appears on the interweb there is a diatribe from at least three fanboys about how unreliable Dvorak is as a reporter.

One post said that Dvorak had a background in news and was therefore not qualified to write about technical stuff. Others sited a 1991 prediction he made that didn't come true.

One poster said that if Steve Jobs said that 40 minutes on the phone was long enough to speak to someone that must be OK and he would curtail his usage immediately. Another added that if people used their phones longer than 40 minutes there must be something wrong with them.

More here: http://www.twit.tv/93 [www.twit.tv] [www.twit.tv]

iPhone batteries "die in 40 minutes"

Apple fanboys kill the messenger

By Nick Farrell: Friday 06 April 2007, 07:14

APPLE FANBOYS have really been going for hack John C Dvorak after one of his sources in Cingular told him the iPhone's batteries lasted just 40 minutes.
During Episode 93 of the spodcast this Week in Tech (TWiT)Dvorak said he received information from "a guy at Cingular who's testing the product." The unnamed, male Cingular employee told Dvorak "there's lots of issues" with the iPhone.

Dvorak said that the iPhone was blighted with not having a removable battery, so "you run 20 minutes and you're using up half the battery power. You get 40 minutes total talk time. And the interface fouls up constantly."

The Cingular geezer or geezerette asked Dvorak not to tell anyone. OK it is a "man in the pub told me" style story, but it does not mean that there is no truth behind it. Certainly it is an odd thing to make up.

But the fan boys are up in arms about the comment and every where the story appears on the interweb there is a diatribe from at least three fanboys about how unreliable Dvorak is as a reporter.

One post said that Dvorak had a background in news and was therefore not qualified to write about technical stuff. Others sited a 1991 prediction he made that didn't come true.

One poster said that if Steve Jobs said that 40 minutes on the phone was long enough to speak to someone that must be OK and he would curtail his usage immediately. Another added that if people used their phones longer than 40 minutes there must be something wrong with them.

More here: http://www.twit.tv/93 [www.twit.tv]

iPhone batteries "die in 40 minutes"

Apple fanboys kill the messenger

By Nick Farrell: Friday 06 April 2007, 07:14

APPLE FANBOYS have really been going for hack John C Dvorak after one of his sources in Cingular told him the iPhone's batteries lasted just 40 minutes.
During Episode 93 of the spodcast this Week in Tech (TWiT)Dvorak said he received information from "a guy at Cingular who's testing the product." The unnamed, male Cingular employee told Dvorak "there's lots of issues" with the iPhone.

Dvorak said that the iPhone was blighted with not having a removable battery, so "you run 20 minutes and you're using up half the battery power. You get 40 minutes total talk time. And the interface fouls up constantly."

The Cingular geezer or geezerette asked Dvorak not to tell anyone. OK it is a "man in the pub told me" style story, but it does not mean that there is no truth behind it. Certainly it is an odd thing to make up.

But the fan boys are up in arms about the comment and every where the story appears on the interweb there is a diatribe from at least three fanboys about how unreliable Dvorak is as a reporter.

One post said that Dvorak had a background in news and was therefore not qualified to write about technical stuff. Others sited a 1991 prediction he made that didn't come true.

One poster said that if Steve Jobs said that 40 minutes on the phone was long enough to speak to someone that must be OK and he would curtail his usage immediately. Another added that if people used their phones longer than 40 minutes there must be something wrong with them.

More here: http://www.twit.tv/93

I think this application of 454's technology is even more interesting than intestinal bacteria:

FiB Episode 011 - Ancient DNA: The Neanderthal Genome
(The Futures in Biotech podcast: http://www.twit.tv/fib11

Drs. Paabo and Jarvie talk about the Neanderthal Genome Sequencing Project...
Guests: Dr. Svente Paabo, Director of the Department of Genetics at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
Dr. Thomas Jarvie, Technical Application Manage at 454 Life Sciences

In this episode, Dr. Svante Paabo explains how he isolates the ancient DNA of Neanderthals from museum specimens. He is leading the team that is using this material to sequence the entire Neanderthal genome, which should take just over two years. By comparing our genome to that of the Neanderthals, great light will be shed on what it means to be human.

I have never used OpenNMS and don't know much about this product or any of the other commercial runner ups mentioned, but I noticed one thing from the OpenNMS homepage and that is that they have this OpenNMS Group which provides services, training and support for the product.
I think this is a model that more many other Open Source products would have a lot to gain from following.

That's excellent news. If you want to learn more about OpenNMS and it's background, I highly recommend listening to FLOSS Weekly #15.

That's great. Coincidentally enough, I just became aware of Randall Schwartz the other day when I listened to the FLOSS Weekly podcast where they interviewed him. It was a good listen (as always) - he talks about this case if anyone's interested.

>>> In essence, the Linux Samba Client was reverse-engineered by an individual, who crafted his code through straight trial-and-error on an SMB terminal, then packaged and released the client under GPL.

There is a great interview with Jeremy Allison of Samba on FLOSS weekly #14, http://www.twit.tv/floww14 where he basically tells how he made Samba. Quite a good listen really. Most interesting is his trial and error causing the Windows computer to which he was sending packets to reboot/hang/crash. I recall he said he submitted bug reports to MSFT to help them fix issues (like being able to remotely crash a windows machine over the network).

If everything Steve says is true (which I personally believe it is), then M$FT don't have a leg to stand on. If someone within the MSFT organization has looked at the Samba code and seen similarities it is only because they're talking to the same system with the same messages.

I'm talking to you in semi-coherent English, but that does not mean I've infringed any Patents on LCD/Plasma/CRT/Ass display you're reading this on.

Some months back, the TWiT Podcast Network went down. Leo Laporte hosted the RSS feeds at The Planet (where the story's poster was working when he quit/got threatened). Leo was angry at The Planet's lack of response and feedback. Someone informed him that at some point in time, The Planet started to go downhill as a company for various reasons so a bunch of their employees got together, quit, then went off to form their own hosting company, Softlayer. A number of other employees followed as well. Leo took this advice and relocated the hosting to Softlayer.

I wonder if the missing part to the submitter's story is that he quit The Planet to move to Softlayer and so The Planet's management, mad that yet another employee was leaving for that company, threatened to sue him. It would jive with the theory that this was a warning to other employees. It will ultimately fail but in the meantime it works as a band-aid for the leakage of employees to the other company.

Here...go listen to this netcast. It just *happens* to be Jeremy Allison being featured on FLOSS weekly. Pay close attention to the bits (somewhere around 35 min. into the netcast) where he mentions MS's intentions on interoperability, specifically what changes they made to the Sever Message Block protocol in Windows 2003/Vista. Yah, they might say that they want to play nice, but I have a hard time beleiving that MS has changed their tune since the creation of SMB2.

Which is why it's a good thing that a whitehat discovered the flaw. My understanding is that she alerted MS and Apple so that they can make apporpriate changes to their OS and patch the hole (in effect, basically initialize the VM during boot and keep it reserved until a valid request is made, in effect just beating the rootkit). Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte explain it a bit better than I can.

If it doesn't matter enough to you to pay the price asked, then perhaps you should find other entertainment (there is other DRM-free music available) or get by without.

I've been going the "get by without" route. What music I hear is pushed at me when eating out or on TV. Instead of listening to the radio in the car, I'm listening to back podcasts of TWiT, one MP3CD-full at a time.

Though it looks like I will have to buy a portable player of some type just to block out the conversations in the neighboring cubicles, I'll probably just load it with more recent podcasts and more of them. A small iPod Shuffle will serve my desire.

This exact issue was the focus of discussion in the first episode of the This Week in Law Podcast.

The panelists seemed to agree that is is an issue which the DMCA handles well. These letters are just a system of notice; failing to comply with the letter requesting that you take down the contested content doesn't have any bearing on a subsequent legal dispute over that content. It provides a mechanism to correct copyright problems without litigation.

/.ers love to complain about these letters as a tool of oppression, and certainly there's some chilling effect because most small operations are likely to take down the contested content, however there was at least a good intention behind this system.

The author of the article seems to have this idea that any changes made in GPLv3 automagicly apply to anything that's GPLv2.

There's a really good intereview on FLOSS with Eben Moglen from the FSF on the issue of the GPLv3. Even he admits that it's probably best not for the kernel to convert to GPLv3.

http://www.twit.tv/floss13

I was going to mod you up for this post, because Quicksilver really is a godsend if I've ever known one. But I thought I should really chime in with plugging TWiT's MacBreak, which has some wonderful guides on getting a lot out of Quicksilver, specifically on eps. 12 and 17. But, do explain this flashlight interface - it's the first I've heard of it.

Leo Laporte is also floating the idea of switching the term to "netcast". Bonus advantage: helps clue people in that they don't need an iPod to listen to a "podcast" (which understandably is a common misunderstanding by those who hear the term for the first time).

So is Leo Laporte: http://www.twit.tv/

Yes, watch ads while it downloads and go back and watch ads every month thereafter *forever*. Otherwise, your license expires on the songs you've downloaded. This was discussed in TWiT #67 by Wil Harris of bit-tech.net.

madvirii - Afrociated Press, Nigeria. In what will go down as one of the largest inflation of niggernuts on this twisted zionist planet, GNAA art director JacksonBrown rotted the core of the Apple store early last week in front of a cumload of onlookers.

"So I goes to the Apple Sto' lookin' to mess shit up," JacksonBrown begins, still dehydrated from jerking off to the mp3 recording from the twit44 fagcast, "and Patrick Norton is a filthy liar, I did not have 20 windows open, and I sure as hell wasn't using vi." Brown has been pegged as a known hater of vi, the most Judenesque text editor in the long, near-sterile line of UNIX-like text editors.

"And for the records, hello.jpg was loaded 110 times in 15 minutes," Brown was quoted as saying. Apple tried to minimize their losses by fabricating details surrounding JacksonBrown's total annhiliation of their defenses. When asked about the show, Brown could only add, "it's boring, I know that...all I knew was they were going to be on my turf so I took advantage."

After viewing the glory of goatse, Patrick Norton literally could not see the light at the end of the tunnel, and furiously masturbated, and is still masturbating at this very moment. Apple has tried to downplay the incident by including goatse as the bootup splash screen in future versions of its amazingly inefficient failure of an operating system, in an attempt to make peace with the GNAA before facing total annhiliation.

About TWiT

TWiT (This Week in Tech) is a weekly fagcast showcasing Apple's latest failures in the world of technology. Featuring such personalities as "Blow" Jobs and Leo LaPorte, it is broadcast over the internet at www.lastmeasure.us.

About Apple

Apple Computer is the creator of the Macintosh, popularly known as the "gay computer". 87% of GNAA members are Mac users. Founded in 1974 by Steve "Blow" Jobs and Steve "SuperElite(tm)" Wozniak, Apple was nearly out of business in the mid 90's, when "Blow" Jobs was reinstated. He then started the now infamous iGay marketing scheme which involved both the Step 2 ???? SUKI Profit(tm) model, and a 100% effort towards marketing towards black homosexuals. The two Steves got married, and eventually introduced Intel processors as a standard in Macs by the end of 2007.

About GNAA:
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

Are you GAY ?
Are you a NIGGER ?
Are you a GAY NIGGER ?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!
Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member.
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today!

Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!

• First, you have to obtain a copy of GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it. You can download the movie (~130mb) using BitTorrent.
• Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA

-Eric

The story of TechTV began with the MSNBC show, The Site which starred Soledad O'Brien and a computer generated character, Dev Null, who was voiced and controlled by Leo Laporte. I never saw the Site, but TVNewser has a good overview of the show.

After the Site was cancelled, came ZDTV which was owned by Ziff Davis. When Ziff Davis sold the channel to Paul Allen, they changed the name to TechTV.

During that time G4 was started. Owned by Comcast, they bought TechTV and merged the channels calling it G4TechTV, closing down TechTV's San Francisco studio and cancelling Call For Help. From the start there were signs that buying TechTV was simply a way for Comcast to get G4 into more houses by canibalizing the audience of TechTV. They did not offer ScreenSavers host Patrick Norton a contract and while they initially were going to have Leo Laporte appear in pretaped segments, they never actually did that. They also cancelled Fresh Gear and all of TechTV's other shows except for the ScreenSavers and X-Play. Then several months later, G4 dropped the "TechTV" and any pretense that they were going to continue having any technology focus.

After a few months, the Canadian version of G4 offered to hire Laport and begin to tape new episodes of Call For Help, informally called Call For Help 2.0. In August of 2005 the US G4 began to air Call For Help 2.0, but early in the morning with little to no advertising. After several months it was taken off the air. It is still airing in Canada and on the How To channel in Australia. Recently, it has been made available for purchase from Google Video in the USA and is easilly found on torrent trackers.

Now G4 has begun airing Star Trek:TNG and the original Star Trek, as well as the Man Show and Fastlane and increasingly decreasing videogame coverage. Many people have begun to call G4 a SpikeTV clone.

In brighter news, many TechTV alumni have gone on to particiapte in online podcasts and vid casts such as This Week In Tech, dl.tv, Cranky Geeks, Hook Me Up and The Chris Pirillo Show which, when combined, probably produce more original weekly content than TechTV ever did.

Not exactly, but if you want what TechTV was go here and then poke around. You'll end up finding Revision3 and DL.TV. Don't bother about what happened. Just enjoy what has resulted. TechTV controlled by the people on the air for the people who liked to watch it.

I hope this gets discussed at FLOSS Weekly or This week in Tech.

I too mourned the death of TechTV, but I no longer miss it.

I now watch DL.TV and TWIT.TV, which gives me about 80% of what I got from TechTV.

True, it was convenient to have everything gathered on one cable channel (if you ignored all of the useless repeats), but I'd argue that the natural environment for TechTV's content is the web. Plus, now, using a good RSS feed reader, you can roll your own TechTV. Can't you do that with TIVO and Freevo now?

Now, all we need is for Joshua "Yoshi" DeHerrera to start up a modding video podcast then all will truly be right with the world, with all TechTV goodness gathered on the web, in nicely downloadable / streamable gobbits.

What will ultimately happen is that players will support both disk types after a while

That won't happen. Part of the contract companies sign to be able to produce Blu-Ray players specifically state that they cannot produce dual Bluray/HD-DVD players. I don't have a direct link available, but it's been discussed ad nauseum on Twit. This really angered companies like LG and Sanyo who already had dual-players in R&D.

It already exists. I remember Patrick Norton talking about one in TWiT podcast a few months back.

Inside the net interviewed them back in March. Pretty good listen.

http://twit.tv/itn15

Revision3 also distributes their shows on bittorrent.

madvirii - Afrociated Press, Nigeria. In what will go down as one of the largest inflation of niggernuts on this twisted zionist planet, GNAA art director JacksonBrown rotted the core of the Apple store early last week in front of a cumload of onlookers.

"So I goes to the Apple Sto' lookin' to mess shit up," JacksonBrown begins, still dehydrated from jerking off to the mp3 recording from the twit44 fagcast, "and Patrick Norton is a filthy liar, I did not have 20 windows open, and I sure as hell wasn't using vi." Brown has been pegged as a known hater of vi, the most Judenesque text editor in the long, near-sterile line of UNIX-like text editors.

"And for the records, hello.jpg was loaded 110 times in 15 minutes," Brown was quoted as saying. Apple tried to minimize their losses by fabricating details surrounding JacksonBrown's total annhiliation of their defenses. When asked about the show, Brown could only add, "it's boring, I know that...all I knew was they were going to be on my turf so I took advantage."

After viewing the glory of goatse, Patrick Norton literally could not see the light at the end of the tunnel, and furiously masturbated, and is still masturbating at this very moment. Apple has tried to downplay the incident by including goatse as the bootup splash screen in future versions of its amazingly inefficient failure of an operating system, in an attempt to make peace with the GNAA before facing total annhiliation.

About TWiT

TWiT (This Week in Tech) is a weekly fagcast showcasing Apple's latest failures in the world of technology. Featuring such personalities as "Blow" Jobs and Leo LaPorte, it is broadcast over the internet at www.lastmeasure.us.

About Apple

Apple Computer is the creator of the Macintosh, popularly known as the "gay computer". 87% of GNAA members are Mac users. Founded in 1974 by Steve "Blow" Jobs and Steve "SuperElite(tm)" Wozniak, Apple was nearly out of business in the mid 90's, when "Blow" Jobs was reinstated. He then started the now infamous iGay marketing scheme which involved both the Step 2 ???? SUKI Profit(tm) model, and a 100% effort towards marketing towards black homosexuals. The two Steves got married, and eventually introduced Intel processors as a standard in Macs by the end of 2007.

About GNAA:
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

Are you GAY ?
Are you a NIGGER ?
Are you a GAY NIGGER ?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!
Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member.
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today!

Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!

• First, you have to obtain a copy of GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it. You can download the movie (~130mb) using BitTorrent.
• Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA First Post on slashdot.org, a popular "news for trolls" website.
• Third,

(which is relevant, because once you have other people deciding what is quality and what isn't, the spammers want to jump in, pretend to be anonymous, and say Hey! my adverts are quality stuff everyone should look at!)

You are so right, listen to this pod cast.
http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3?http://med ia.libsyn.com/media/twit/TWiT49AH.mp3
From twit.tv http://twit.tv/node?from=10

http://www.twit.tv/ , http://digitallifetv.com/ and http://crankygeeks.com/ are your friend.

In this TWIT POD cast, John C. Dvorak claims there is evidence that Apple is planning to dump OS X and run windows once everything switches to Intel!!

That Dvorak has not been torn limb from limb by crowds of angry Mac users is a testiment to their self restraint.

I Agree...Free Talk Live is Great! Listening to it is the most important part of my day. I highly recommend it -- it may change your life.

I also enjoy:

• Distorted View
• The Dawn and Drew Show
• TWiT -- This Week In Tech
• The Daily Source Code
• Pacific Coast Hellway
• The Zedcast

I wrote my own personal aggregator...it's similar to bashpodder...it is just a PHP script to download them every day.

For convenient podcast downloads for NON-iPod MP3 players, try iTunes + iTunes Agent.

iTunes
http://www.apple.com/itunes/

iTunes Agent - use any MP3 player with iTunes
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=54 9637

My Morning Playlist
Nature Podcast (science journal)
http://www.nature.com/nature/podcast/

NPR 5-minute News Summary
NPR Health & Science
NPR Technology
http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_directory.p hp?type=topic

Democracy NOW! (news - better than NPR in some ways)
http://democracynow.org/podcast_help.shtml#feeds

Diggnation (latest general blog news from digg.com)
http://revision3.com/diggnation

This Week in Tech (weekly tech news)
http://twit.tv/podcastinfo

Security Now! (tech/security news)
http://www.grc.com/SecurityNow.htm

President's Weekly Radio Address (comedy)
http://weeklyradioaddress.com/

and I used to listen to Ricky Gervais (comedy), but he charges $$ now.
http://www.rickygervais.com/podcast.php

I listen to a few...

The Signal; A podcast about Firefly and Serenity.
http://signal.serenityfirefly.com/

TWIT; Basically Leo Laporte and his crew talk about tech stuff for an hour.
http://www.twit.tv/

Slice of SciFi; for all the science fiction news you could shake a stick at.
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/

FireflyTalk is good too...
http://fireflytalk.libsyn.com/

TWiT: This Week in Tech (former Tech TV Screensavers)
dl.tv (former Tech TV Screensavers)
diggnation (again, former Tech TV Screensavers)
CreativeCOW.net (Digital Media)
Shields and Brooks (Newshour Political Podcast)
NPR Technology (collected stories about tech from the previous week)
KCRW's The Treatment
Ricky Gervais (BBC's The Office, Extras)

There's also an interview with him in yesterday's Security Now! podcast

http://www.twit.tv/

When my ipod broke i had 800mb of unlistend podcasts i eventually just deleted them but it counted as a download for a podcaster so they could say "i'm the #1 most listend to podcast"

Dvorak's game is to make leaping predictions, and he's always been obvious about that. Many of the things he says are conclusions that Stretch Armstrong couldn't reach -- but he does have ones that have come true. Still actually good to listen to, at least on TWIT. Praise for Leo Laporte.

I don't know how many of you listen to the TWiT (This Week in Tech) podcast. But this weeks show (26) has an interesting discussion with Leo Laporte, John C. Dvorak, Roger Chang and the rest about the current nature of the net and ICANN's worries.

Here's a link: http://www.twit.tv/

• Former TechTV ScreenSavers host Leo Laporte, Patrick Norton, John C. "I get no spam" Dvorak and others are doing TWIT and just announced video is next.
• Former ScreenSavers hosts Alex Albrecht and Kevin Rose at Diggnation are shooting video while they podcast and Kevin Rose is doing SYSTM
• Robert X. Cringley's NerdTV debuts. Now you may be wondering, "So what?". It's IPTV...that's what. There aren't a lot of great examples out there yet, but most of the smart podcasters -- who are mini-celebrities or have something people would like to see -- are simultaneously podcasting and shooting video (many in high definition just in case). Read an article about a new report here.
• Silicon Valley podcaster John Furrier from Podtech is embarking on video to augment his podcasting.

They are now recording video and the first and second shows are now free for the taking!

http://twit.tv/

The Screen Savers have returned, all must rejoice!
Leo LaPorte, Patrick Norton, Roger and just about everyone in the geek world who used to guest on TechTV are showing up weekly.

....is doing at http://twit.tv

iPodderX does support BitTorrent. I use it to grab the TWiT podcast. The only thing it doesn't do is leave the client open after it finishes downloading.

This was discussed in the 10th espisode of This Week in Tech.

...and you should be able to hack anything you own -- it's yours.

I heard Dvorak on the episode 8 twitcast basically bragging he "called" this x86 switch a couple of years back.

he's completely extatic about it, and discuss the x86 switch as a done deal.

He's also going off on his blog.

I'm still not sold, and the debunk arguments by Gruber seems reasonable.

Digg is not his; it was made and is run by a friend of his. Kevin's involvement in dig is that he's an active user on it.

Well, maybe I misunderstood something, but I just listened to the TWiT Podcast (#3) http://www.twit.tv/ and he says "yeah, digg is mine".

A lot of the former Screen Savers hosts now do This Week in Tech, a weekly podcast about the state of technology.

If only he could call up Leo and Patrick and have them help out...that would be excellent.

Leo, Patrick, Kevin, and occasionally Roger, Yoshi, and some others have been doing a weekly Podcast called This Week in Tech... TWiT site