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Just for fun, I went to Yahoo! and did a search on "+gre +vpn +linux" and came up with tons o' useful links.

Always check the LDP and specifically the VPN Mini-HOWTO.

I shouldn't have to tell you this.

We've hosted several open source projects ( Linux, Linux Documentation Project, GGI and more -- even WAIS and Mosaic in ancient days).
We're open to supporting more projects. So if you have some that need www, ftp, mailing lists etc, drop us a note at webmaster@MetaLab.unc.edu

We've hosted several open source projects ( Linux, Linux Documentation Project, GGI and more -- even WAIS and Mosaic in ancient days).
We're open to supporting more projects. So if you have some that need www, ftp, mailing lists etc, drop us a note at webmaster@MetaLab.unc.edu

We've hosted several open source projects ( Linux, Linux Documentation Project, GGI and more -- even WAIS and Mosaic in ancient days).
We're open to supporting more projects. So if you have some that need www, ftp, mailing lists etc, drop us a note at webmaster@MetaLab.unc.edu

Mediaone (now Mediaone Road Runner) never explicitly supported Linux, and according to their current Service Agreement still don't support Linux. There's a FAQ now for how to hook up a cable modem to Linux, and Mediaone, while not supporting Linux, does not explicitly prohibit its use (there are many Linuxers on Mediaone).

The easiest thing to do is get your machine working with Windows, then make it work with Linux. That's what I did with Mediaone, and I never mentioned to the tech that I was planning to use Linux. I haven't used DSL, but it can't be any harder than a cable modem.

Is this disengenuous? I suppose it is a bit, but if you can figure out how Windows makes and maintains the connection, and then duplicate that with Linux, why should they care? (Just make sure your machine's secure :-) I think that a service provider would rather have someone paying for their service rather than go elsewhere because of this kind of nonsense.

ADSL, if I remember correctly, began as this weird semi-useful half-forgotten technology that somebody at Alcatel or some defense contractor came up with one day while sitting around daydreaming about how much data could theoretically be pumped down a copper wire, right?

I don't think it was ever intended to be rolled out on a massive scale, and quite frankly I think it's pretty bloody amazing that it works at all, considering the infrastructure it's working over.

It's not the fault of the technology that it has apparently fallen into the hands of an incredibly wide variety of inept and/or evil marketing and implementation goobers.

Case in point: I've got BellSouth ADSL in Chapel Hill, NC. Yes, it took me a half-dozen phone calls and two separate visits from an installer before it would work. No, they don't seem to be able to simply tell you on the phone whether you're within 3 miles of the C.O. Yes, I did have to move closer to the C.O. in order to get it (well, I was moving anyway--the getting-closer part was a happy side effect).

HOWEVER, now that it's working, I'm paying $60 a month for 256k up/1.2mb down (they made me pay $300 upfront for the installation, including purchase of a 3c905 NIC, and the Alcatel ADSL modem, which I suppose I get to keep when I move again, for all the good that'll do me.)

Web pages & file transfers happen faster than they do at work via the corporate T-1 through the firewall. I can already sense that my web pages are liable to get accidentally more bloaty just because I'm not as likely to be testing them via 28.8 dialup anymore ;-)

I think the ADSL "problem" comes from the great swirling pool of massive disappointment that is being created because most providers, like BellSouth, seem to be physically incapable of presenting the risks/problems with the technology upfront. The facts are simple, once somebody tells you: You need to have less than 3 miles of good copper, with no fiber, between your house and the C.O.

I'd say that probably eliminates 75% of the population. BellSouth's problem (and the problem of all the other providers, apparently) is that they can't figure out how to track down & market to the 25% who *are* eligible, and they can't figure out how to put a happy face on what would appear to be rather depressing odds. So they just ignore the odds & under-advertise the service in an effort to avoid mass hassles.

What they end up with, of course, is thousands of pissed-off non-customers, and a piddly handful who meet the two criteria of (a) knowing what ADSL is, and (b) having a line that qualifies.

Bottom line: ADSL is definitely the Zen connect technology. It either works or it doesn't. No amount of kvetching or calling other vendors will fix that. Throwing more money at it doesn't even help. The little light is either green or red. For that reason, I find it to be simultaneously more infuriating and much more inspiring than the myriad of run-of-the-mill networking problems-with-solutions I handle at work all day.

I mean, you have to admit it'd be kind of fun, in a sick way, to be an ADSL installer & be able to just stand there & say "nope, sorry, doesn't work" when the light's blinking red, rather than having to spend the next 5 hours sweating bullets trying to fix it with an irate customer standing over you. Well, sort of.

grady

silly question... are you running the x server with -bpp 16?

i think there is a howto. visit this index and look around; there is one for 3dfx hardware and one for quake, among others.

I implemented a phonebook on some early PDP computer a few years ago and it was lots of fun sitting in front of the DECwriter. It's surprising that that was only two or three years ago.

If you want to learn more about old computers (not just PCs, though the definition of PC is vague at best), there's plenty of resources out there;

• Comprehensive Computer Catalogue - Though a bit old now, it's still a very valuable source for tracking down the age of a machine. Did you for example know that Zuse build the Z2 in Germany in april 1939? Six months before Atanasoff built their ABC in the USA.
• Classic Computers - Information about the CLASSICCMP mailinglist.
• CLASSICCMP related links

I implemented a phonebook on some early PDP computer a few years ago and it was lots of fun sitting in front of the DECwriter. It's surprising that that was only two or three years ago.

If you want to learn more about old computers (not just PCs, though the definition of PC is vague at best), there's plenty of resources out there;

• Comprehensive Computer Catalogue - Though a bit old now, it's still a very valuable source for tracking down the age of a machine. Did you for example know that Zuse build the Z2 in Germany in april 1939? Six months before Atanasoff built their ABC in the USA.
• Classic Computers - Information about the CLASSICCMP mailinglist.
• CLASSICCMP related links

you should try a trueType font server..
i use xfstt with the windows fonts..

-phazer

Please use MetaLab instead of our old name, sunsite.unc.edu. MetaLab is our non-vendor-specific name--tho sunsite.unc.edu still works.
http://MetaLab.unc.edu/ StarDivision/unxlnxi/so51_lnx_01.tar
Thanks

sunsite.unc.edu still works, but we prefer that you use MetaLab.unc.edu instead. it's our non-vendor-specific name.
so that would be
http://MetaLab.unc.edu/ StarDivision/unxlnxi/so51_lnx_01.tar

Thanks

STAR OFFICE 5.1 Download Sites:
FTP SITES:
Sun SITE UTK at University of Tennessee - Knoxville
TU Clausthal - Germany
Sun SITE Central Europe at RWTH-Aachen - Germany
Sun SITE Finland at the Tampere University of Technology
Sun SITE Switzerland - cnlab & SWITCH - Rapperswil & Zurich
Star Division - Germany
Star Division - Germany
AARNet Mirror Project - Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

HTTP SITES:
Sun SITE USA at University of North Carolina - UNC Chapel Hill
Sun SITE UTK at University of Tennessee - Knoxville
Sun SITE Central Europe at RWTH-Aachen - Germany
Sun SITE Finland at the Tampere University of Technology
Sun SITE Nordic at Kungliga Tekniska Högskolan - Stockholm
Sun SITE Belgium
Sun SITE Northern Europe at Imperial College - London
Sun SITE Switzerland - cnlab & SWITCH - Rapperswil & Zurich

You can download the English version from: http://sunsite.unc.edu/ StarDivision/unxlnxi/so51_lnx_01.tar and use the following info for registration...
Registration Data

Product: StarOffice 5.1
Operating System: Linux Intel
Language: English, US

Data to be filled in the User Data Dialog:
Company:
First/Last Name: bob test
Street/State: 8734 hgdfhjgsdfhjg
ZIP/City: 90210 sdf
Country: United States of America

Phone Home/Work:
Fax/eMail: sdffg@sad.com

Data to be filled in the Registration Key Dialog:
Custumer number: 8017663
Registration Key: 68L9-1RVX-7308RP-0L46C7-EJYX-YA0J

There is list with lots of software projects here .

LEDs are 'Light Emitting Diodes', the most common choice for any little blinking light on your computer (they tend to be just a little colored light.)

LCD is 'Liquid Crystal Display' which has this liquid crystal that's polarized and changes polarization when some electricity is run through it. This is what's used on digital watches, calculators, laptop displays and the little linux based MP3 player thingy that I've seen before.

If you're interested in the former, look on metalab (ex-sunsite) under Linux/system/status you'll find that there is a led-stat.txt describing a short program and cable with LEDs, etc. (there's also a ledstatus tarball and lsm) You can modify this LED status program in a number of ways, at one place I worked we had it set up with a colored "load meter" (gets higher when more load) combined with a heartbeat (goes back and forth to give you a 'feel' of how much CPU is available) and with two of the parallel port pins hooked up to a relay hooked up to the reset switch of the NT machine next to it, so we could send a specific signal to lcdmeter and reboot the NT machine when it froze.

If you're interested in an LCD display panel, as I suspect you really are, Matrix Orbital Corporation makes a series of LCD display panels (also VFD (Vacuum Fluorescent Display) modules that appear to be completely compatible and brighter than the LCD panels) that are sold through a few different channels, including Linux Central. These appear to use RS-232, (or I2C, whatever that is) so you'll need a spare serial port.

The software to drive these is LCDproc which works on a fairly configurable client/server interface, so it should be possible to display anything you want with LCDproc as long as you can write a client that can speak the protocol.

Are you looking for the LDP? It's still there (along with the rest of sunsite) at http://metalab.unc.edu. Has never left, AFAIK :)
~luge
(A frustrated Blue Devil who is constantly embittered that something as cool as metalab is at a place as lame as UNC-Chapel Hell :)

curious to see how successful you are.

curious to see how successful you are.

As usual, we need the obligatory link to the Linux Advocacy HOWTO.

This article illustrates an important point--that overeager advoactes do more harm than good. Regardless of some people's ideas of the strengthening nature of flames, well-reasoned, well-presented arguments go farther in winning someone to your side of an argument than brimstone-laden insults. The author of the article noted that he already uses Linux. If he wasn't already familiar with the OS, I doubt that he would have bothered to try it after the torrent of flames he got.

I've seen a couple of comments pointing out that Slashdot does not represent the Linux community as a whole. Slashdot does, however, have a huge readership that is markedly pro-Linux. Even a small percentage of that readership flaming an author can generate enough vitriol to turn someone off to Linux, thinking that it's an OS used by people of an immature bent. (Yes, I'm struggling to avoid "pimply-faced 13-year-old" stereotypes.)

Please, people, try to avoid knee-jerk reactions, and work on refraining from flaming people just because you don't agree with them. If toey're wrong, there ought to be solid facts that can be quoted in your defense, and, if you are not in posession of those facts, go look for them before posting.

Depending on your browser configuration the above link will fail (the ftp server will deny the login request).

Use this one.

Try the http link instead of the ftp link given.

Really? That's funny. I turned up almost 8000 results. Did you try clicking on the little button labeled "Submit"?

A few minutes searching on the real internet turned up http://ati.veiled.net/ and http://www.core.binghamton.edu/~ins omnia/gatos/, sites which deal directly with support for the "ATI All-In-Wonder, All-In-Wonder Pro or Rage II/Pro with ATI-TV tuner card". Yes, under Linux.

I can just imagine a linux junky saying to a hapless newbie linux user who's new video card isn't supported "don't buy crap hardware!".

If you would care to show me a video card which has _no_ support under linux, then I will listen to you. Until then, you are just babbling.

Not having kernel level routines to implement UltraHyper8DQuakotronicRenderomatic instructions does not count as being "unsupported". If you have an "unsupported" video card, and bought it without bothering to spend a few minutes checking to see if it had support (an act comparable in stupidity to buying software labeled "DOS/Win95" to run on your Mac), then just run it in VGA or SVGA mode until the new drivers come out.

Ignoring a problem by having the user research for 2 weeks trying to find hardware that both performs at the expected level, has the required features, and is fully supported in linux isn't going to fix anything.

*cough cough* So you're saying that buying a new computer should be as simple as, say, buying a car or choosing a school to send your children to -- Just take whatever comes along first and expect that it will naturally meet all of your needs. Does it really take you two weeks to read the Hardware Compatibility Howto and then follow up to see if your hardware is or is not supported by the latest releases?

-D

dcross@cryogen.com

If you are looking to get the same results you could use xringd. It runs commands based on incoming ring patterns to your modem. xringd

Anyone else remember when it was just Me and Scoop? We've come a long way. Very cool.

i remember when it was just the LDP. seems like it was just last year....

It allows a "demo" install of Linux on a DOS or VFAT filesystem, or a cohabitating Linux installation without requiring a repartition of your harddrive. It allows me to say my mom has Linux on her computer (does she use it, well, that's another story...).

does anyone have any recommendations for a good Open Source typing trainer?

Here is a good dvorak typing tutor program in a tarball. Enjoy!

• The Linux Documentation Project has everything from mini-HOWTOs on single specific issues to books.
• The GNU website has pointers to documentation guidelines and a list of projects.
• I saw announcement of a kernel documentation mailing list on (urrr..) Linux Weekly News some time ago. kernel-doc? Hosted in Europe somewhere. (Helpful, no?)
• GNU also has a proof-readers' mailing list, where potential proof-readers lurk and people with documentation needing checking send calls for 'I've got this, can people get back to me on it?' or 'I write in this language, can someone check my English?'
• Loads of websites for projects seem to have contacts for feedback. Even if nothing's said about documenting, those are a good start. A lot of them have documentation - but of course each new release means someone has to update the lot - or at least check it!

As someone who relies heavily on HOWTOs and man pages and so on, I have to say: pick one! And good luck and thanks in advance :)

Posted by ExpPiI:

I only read the second article (ie. Freshmeat Editorial). The author forgot to mention another way that non-programmers can help: participation in Linux newsgroups and IRC channels. Newbies can be won over by quick and correct responses from these sources. Just make sure you don't flame them for asking stupid questions (unless they are in the category of "Teach me how to get root!"). Maxim: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

There is also the Linux Advocacy mini-HOWTO - a must-read for all Linux enthusiasts.

Adam Fuller is indeed lookin for a job, but not because MetaLab might be changing.... He's lookin because he's being called home.

me too! we gave it to a student group who took it out of service after about 18 months. but laUNChpad lasted for several years on an antique computer.
sunsite just took a rename to metalab where sun became a lesser supporter than say some local folks.
until we read the directive posted on metalab.unc.edu we thought we'd be here longer...

me too! we gave it to a student group who took it out of service after about 18 months. but laUNChpad lasted for several years on an antique computer.
sunsite just took a rename to metalab where sun became a lesser supporter than say some local folks.
until we read the directive posted on metalab.unc.edu we thought we'd be here longer...

Posted by stu vanderhoffenstoffen:

No no! It's true! Adam Fuller confirmed it with me this morning in our programming class. That poor sucker is out of a job now!

This should confirm the change for you.

Maybe that dork Adam Fuller can get a real job now.

SPITE is really funny, especially in the context of all of our talk about flameage in the community. Check out the "bitter guy" comics. A flamer's mascot, at last!

It xfstt (X Font Server -- True Type)) has made my web browsing easier on the eyes.

Yes, as a matter of fact, there is steady constant work being done on the USB subsystem, it's being done mainly by one advernturesome soul who is in school right now. You can check his progress at the web site. You can always find information about inportant projects at the Linux Documentation Project. I know they have keyboards, hubs, mice and several interfacec cards working right now. They are doing some weird crap too... the guy that's doing it noticed that his code puked when he added the seventh mouse...

Well, it can make coffee...

Here's a good How-To for glibc, might come in handy for those of you deciding to try slackware 4.0, and wanting to setup glibc.

Uh, Alpha's have been available from many OEM vendors for quite some time.

The LDP lists many vendors which sell Alpha Linux systems.

there are actually several different file wipers available. freshmeat has two of them. my version of wipe is at: metalab and freshmeat.
the next version will add block device support for linux. anyone know how to get block device sector counts under *bsd? in linux, it's a BLKGETSIZE ioclt

ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/packages/infosystems/WWW /clients/Netscape/m ozilla-source/mozilla/releases/m3/
and
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/packages/infosystems/WW W/clients/Netscape /mozilla-source/mozilla/releases/m3/
We keep'em regularly updated as an official mirror so for those of you closer the North Carolina than to North Europe--Enjoy

ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/packages/infosystems/WWW /clients/Netscape/m ozilla-source/mozilla/releases/m3/
and
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/packages/infosystems/WW W/clients/Netscape /mozilla-source/mozilla/releases/m3/
We keep'em regularly updated as an official mirror so for those of you closer the North Carolina than to North Europe--Enjoy

Too bad people like Elliotte Rusty Harold is everywhere:
"One wonders what Eric Raymond was doing up on the stage with Steve Jobs at the announcement. Did he actually read the license before endorsing it?"

Should software authors be required to sign their software and patches as a condition of acceptance onto FTP sites? Signing your software is a vital protection against malicious modifications by third parties and is less onerous than writing it. For those unfamiliar with the signing process, there is an excellent HOWTO document describing the process.

Surely contributors to the FSF should set an example and insist on software signing? Unfortunately, despite the risks of unsigned software, eloquently explained at Linux World, most of the software available by FTP around the world has not been signed. For example, on the alpha GNU it appears that none of the software is signed. Major FTP sites like SunSITE and XFree86 have mostly unsigned software.

Roger McGuinn founder of the Byrds

http://metalab.unc.edu/pjones/test.mpeg.html

I appreciate the tip, but that site didn't appear to have anything that pertained to the large HDs.

It's amongst the mini-HOWTOs; did you check that section?

Here's the Large Disk (mini-)HOWTO.

There are several places that will sell you a low cost linux box. For example, sunset systems, TCU-inc, OEMcomputers. See The LDP hardware page for a list of vendors that will preload linux. Some of them have good prices.
--
Donovan Rebbechi

BEAT DOOK!!