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Everyone and Their Brother Opens a Linux Site
Couple of new Linux Portals to mention:
An anonymous reader sent us a link to
LinuxStart- a yahoo-ish
Linux focused site, and
FaKe wrote in to send
us JustLinux.com.
EmilEifrem sent us
Earthweb's newly announced OpenSourceIT,
which isn't a portal: More like a better designed
LinuxWorld, with
a cheesier name. It Debuts with the standard ESR and RMS
profiles. All of these sites look pretty decent- its pretty
excellent that Linux can support this much content. Anyone
else remember when it was just Me and Scoop? We've come a long
way. Very cool.
Don't forget http://www.linuxlinks.com - this is the portal site I have been using for longest. I have always found it useful and up to date.
Now it seems there are a number of linux portals to choose from. Good - the more the merrier....
let me be the first AC to say "you rock".
your site is awesome.
heh, yeah. no offense but slashdot.org is itself fairly recent on the scene,
:)
linux.org - Record created on 10-May-94.
slashdot.org - Record created on 05-Oct-97.
not exactly a close call.
This is a half-ass attempt at political correctness. A full-ass attempt would be: "Everyone and their sibling opens a web site".
I just signed up for free email as postmaster@linuxstart.com, mail@linuxstart.com, ftp@linuxstart.com and news@linuxstart.com
webmaster@linuxstart.com and root@linuxstart.com
were already taken...
Nice.
-marc
I find myself using filewatcher.org more than freshmeat.net.
HA! I remember when it was just sunsite.unc.edu !!
Anyone else remember when it was just Me and Scoop? We've come a long way. Very cool.
i remember when it was just the LDP. seems like it was just last year....
or Lars, COLA, and LSM tools?
ack ack ack.. evil eris$, evil! ;P
we're eris-free now, brah
you scare me man
The ship sank. Get over it. (This sig was cut out from another's shirt and painstakingly hand-posted)
NewHoo was already 'gobbled up' by AOLscape. It seems they've abandoned it though..
Irina Romanov
all these new sites are cool and all, but the only things i check are /. freshmeat and lwn.
henri
Not to nitpick, but "everyone" is singular, and "their" is plural... So, for plurality agreement, it should be "...his brother" or possibly "...his/her brother" :).
Alex Bischoff
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Alex Bischoff
HTML/CSS coder for hire
Developers don't want to read news, they want code. I didn't find a site I liked, so I created yet another open source site:
Links to more than 3000 applications, libraries, functions, faqs, etc.
Don't bother checking every 5 minutes for news. But if you want code. It's there.
Posted by Roland the Gunslinger:
Language is constantly evolving. What a wonderful euphemism for 'language use is degenerating thanks to those too lazy to use the language properly.' Ask a linguist? A real one, or one cranked out by the diploma mill universities we have today, where any idiot with 10 thousand dollars can receive a piece of paper certifying he could remember things long enough to take a test?
[Insert 3 hour diatribe on the decline of Western Civilization here.]
TedC
I remember before there was even a Slashdot or a Freshmeat, it really wasn't that long ago.
This happens when any underground movement begins to become popular. It is the way the dominant culture controls dissent. I liken it to the Chinese and the Mongols. Every so often, the mongols would kinda go, "Hey, World Domination! Let's go Kick Micr^H^H^H^H Chinese Butt." and the Chinese would kind of yawn, maybe fight them a little, and sometimes the Mongols would win. But it didn't matter. In two generations, the Mongols weren't Mongols anymore. They had given up riding little ponies, and hordeing, and settled down to be nice middle class Chinese shopkeepers, and every once in a while some old timer would grouse about the good old days, and how it felt to have a sword in your hand and the wind in your hair, but the kids would just ignore them, cause it didn't fit their (Chinese) world view.
Okay, for the slow, Open_Source == Mongols. Closed_Source == Chinese. The thing that makes a Mongol a Mongol, or a Hacker a Hacker, isn't the little pony, or the code, it's culture. The Chinese beat the Mongols through cultural dilution. Any movement with ideals that run counter to the dominant culture of today runs the same risk. As it's popularity soars, the percentage of people that hold it's core values decreases.
Now, you might say the Internet makes this argument irrelevant. The old timers will still have their forum in which to pass on their values to the next generation of larval hackers. The GPL will insure the code stays open.
Wait, which public license was that? It's happening already. I have this image in my head, from say, 20 years after a succesfull Mongol invasion. Hordes of young Chinese wandering around imitating the Mongol style, wearing leather, and little pointy helmets, growing their hair shaggy, without a clue in the world what it means to be a Mongol. They just know it looks cool and it pisses off their parents.
So how does a numerically and socially inferior culture maintain itself while surrounded by a larger, arrogant and prosletyzing culture? I don't know for sure, but I know who to ask, and my Jewish friends all say you have to practice memetic hygene (okay, I'm paraphrasing.) You need ritual intertwined with daily life locking in the ideas of cultural importance. In Judaism, there is an interesting story behind every seemingly meaningless ritual. There is also a focus on purity (khashering, the dietary laws, etc.) Which, I think, has helped Jews keep memetic purity through the ages, and the long, lonely times in hostile lands.
I think that hackers realized the need for ritual and purity early on. Not consciously, maybe, but I see it in Hacker culture and lore. So I do beleive that Hacker culture will survive the dilution of the mass culture. Even if the mass culture rips Linux away from them (A very likely outcome) Hacker culture will survive, and if necassary, create a whole new OS from scratch, better than before.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Why did this come up anonymously?
Weird...
I think that Rob may be messing around under the hood right now.
We're running out of good domain names for linux sites. Good names like linuxworld.com and linuxplanet.com are all taken, so pretty soon sites like linuxbarn.com, linuxwoodshack.com, and linuxphonebooth.com will start popping up. I've actually thought of a really good name that hasn't been taken, but my lips are sealed until I register the dang thing.
-Eric
I'd imagine most linux users have switched quite a few win users from the dark side. It kinda comes with the territory. I've probably done 8 or 9 people.
greg
I know variety is the spice of life, and I support that, but i just wonder, wouldn't it be better to pool some resources and have 3 or 4 really good portals rather than 1,796+ mediocre ones?
Commodore 64, Loading up the dance floor!
If you're going to be bothered about non-gender pronouns then why the hell are you using everyone and their brother ???
*sigh*
I just visited linuxstart earlier today because it is one of the banners here on slashdot. (BEFORE this post came out I may add).
... and missing.
Something about this dosent set right with me... there is a banner promoting them on your site, yet you just found out about them now.
hmmmm.
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The art of flying is throwing yourself at the ground...
By my counting, we are now up to 1800 registered Linux domains in .com alone!
See http://www.base.com/gordoni/linux.html for the complete list (plus some other useful Linux market intelligence I have gathered).
: Probably a couple hundred, anyway. How does a not so witty one-liner like this recive a score of 3 when there are /. readers writting 3-4 paragraph posts that make a little more sense. Argh. Now im going to end up with a -10 score. Ohh well, its all just a status symbol, right guys? :)
symetrix. We are building a religion, a limited edition.
the security hole is fixed now.
please go use linuxstart.com
I just found a major security hole in the linuxstart email system. I emailed the webmaster, so hopefully they will fix it.
Just take my advice and dont use it til they get it fixed, it's pretty huge.
I just found a major security hole in the linuxstart email system. I emailed the webmaster, so hopefully they will fix it.
Just take my advice and dont use it til they get it fixed, it's pretty huge.
How about linux.reg.tm ?
Actually Im surprised that reg.tm isnt registrered yet.
I had just got home from work last night and also noticed the Linuxstart.com banner on slashdot. I then sighned up for email there(i did have a hotmail account but it got spammed alot). I also at the same time was at irc.slashdot.org and said that it (the banner) was on for a while.
bye the way I also have my own domain which is where I had Lancaster Co Linux User Group untill I found hypermart.net which is now hosting LCLUG. They give you cgi & 20 megs for the cost of a banner at the top of your page(free). If you own your own domain you can have BLABLABLA.org hosted by them with a banner of course for free(what a deal).
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
Give the guy a break, it's obvious what he meant.
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
I just looked at JustLinux.com once after seeing my name on slashdot (ultra elite)=P /. before all the new scoring and threshold stuff came upon us. Looks like JustLinux.com could have downloaded the old slash package and just modified the colors/templates to match their site.
Anyways, i looked at the articles and clicked More.. - surprisingly.. a comment structure extremely similar to the old
CmdrTaco: good job on all the new features. Slashdot will always be the #1 Linux News site, who cares about those portals.
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FaKe
"wERD."
...but here in the Real World, language is constantly evolving. Proper English doesn't have non-gender specific singular pronouns, so the language is changing so that "their" and related words have come to apply to one person of any gender. Ask a linguist if you want to hear the gritty details.
Well, i'd like to invited you to check out a linux portal that doesn't sound so linuxy.. its http://www.smallproductions.com.. we chose the name since we are small, we produce content, websites, and link information and news..
and some other new goodies are under our belt, we have been working on a complete gui based linux for a bit now (included gui install) we have been working for on some modem drivers, video drivers and a bunch of other code to help bring linux to all.. (such as winmodem support, dsp based sound cards and what not)
we look forward to your visits, and let us know what you think!
horray for boobies
The "Portal" i have been working on is www.smallproductions.com
We carry, LinuxGames, LinuxToday, Freshmeat, Slashdot and many other headlines included linux.announce and will be offering our own search
engine and other goodies soon..
plus there is free tech support
you forgot about the new www.linux-support.net web site.
now where's my endorsement fee for giving props to the new site, Marko? i usually charge $1000/endorsement - just donate it to GNU as usual.
-- ken williams
Good idea.
Good site.
With the PortalWars ensuing I wonder how long they will last before being gobbled up by AOL, Yahoo or maybe even Microsoft.
I can see it now.
MSNLU
Microsuck Network for Linux Users
If you can beat em, buy em out.
Madhatter --It's no wonderland out there.
I wish sites like this were around when I first started using linux... woulda helped immensely!
A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God.
Yeah, everyone has a site these days... and that can be a good thing... (Heck even I have a site that has some Linux content.)
But think about how many sites there are out there dedicated to MS products... yuck. Can you imagine being a borg groupie?
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BlackNova Traders
Yeah... I only found out about /. a year or so ago...
I come for the news... but if actually want to know something I go to my local LDP mirror.
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BlackNova Traders
Actually I didn't know about Linuxstart until today and it is a good looking site although many of it's links are either broken or lead to dead ends because of subsequent broken links.
The actual look of the site will probably be something like this.
I can type some more, if you like. :-)
Running a Linux news page with about 50 readers may seem like a waste of time, but it's not. From August 31, 1998 through the end of February, 1999, I helped 3 Windows users get Linux installed and configured for the first time. I didn't know any of these people prior to them sending me email via a link on my page. So if the trend continues, I will have helped 6 people per year become new Linux users. I don't want to sound like I'm selling Amway, but if everyone did this we could drastically increase the size of the Linux user base in less than a year. Just a thought.
TedC
Cough. I don't think so:
Linux Gazzette
Linux Now!
Linux toybox
Uncounted BBSes before the 'net
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Actually, Linuxstart has been around since early March. What's really cool about it is that searches are multilingual (i.e. if it's a french page, you get the french page). Thus it makes it a bit more global (in my opinion, that is).
The problem now, is, what to do when searching for linux news?! I've got slashdot, linuxtoday, lwn, metalab, freshmeat, and now all these portals (well, Linuxstart carries Linuxtoday and Slashdot news...and Linuxtoday carries Freshmeat and Slashdot...and, well you get the idea). If any of them could reach the customization of Yahoo!, I'd be all over that...or better yet if Linuxtoday, Freshmeat, and Slashdot could become content providers to MyYahoo...oh the options the options.
Jesse
These businessman, regard linux users as a dumb crowd.
.com
Some of us, are infect a dumb crowd,
using Linux just because of the hype.
but the most of don't need portals.
we know what we want to do.
These peope think: "hmmmm.... linux has 7 million reachable users, thats a good target, let's get them".
It won't work.
Portals are made for internet newbies, and these sites never thought that linux users arent such.
if a linux newbie is looking for info, he'll search the ldp.
if he wants news, he'll go to slashdot/linuxtoday.
want jokes? he'll go to segfault.
need files? freshmeat is the place. (not linuxberg)
the unix way is to spererate different services,
and that's what they don't understand.
(slashdot may be regarded as a portal to some people, but as a recent poll showed,
for most, it's just a news/discussion site)
on the future, though,
when there will be many "just-for-the-hype" newbies,
that come from windows, yahoo, tucows, and zdnet,
these portals will have audience.
also the saturation of the market with so many linux sites,
is not good for anyone.
on a different note,
there are many cool services in justlinux (the one i checked out).
such as email forwarding, dns for dynamic ip's (that's a rather good idea) and redirection.
too bad all of the domains end with a
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