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For the md5sums: http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/8.10/MD5SUMS

Nothing wrong with links, but you simply have to try w3m. It's also a pager.

Or just use w3m , and get vim-like bindings to your web browsing :)

• Opera
• Konqueror
• Mozilla
• Galeon
• Skipstone
• Netscape

The article did not review a number of browsers. Here are a some more that you may want to try:

• Arena
• Amaya
• Chimera
• MMM
• Emacs/W3
• Lynx (text based)
• Links (text based)
• Debris (text based)
• w3m (text based)
• Libwww (text/line based)
• HowJava
• Express
• Armadillo (was Gzilla)
• Mnemonic
• Kde (file manager with builtin browser)
• mMosaic
• QtMozilla
• QWeb
• Mosaic
• Arachne
• Beest
• Beonex
• BrowseX
• Grail
• Dillo
• NetRaider

And how the disclaimers: The list above by no means complete. The browers above were listed in j-random order. Some browsers are in early alpha stage, some in Beta and others are in full release. Some of the browsers may suck, some are OK and some are good. Your mileage may vary. Sorry If I left out your favorite browser. IE was left off the list for obvious reasons. Good while supply lasts or until Bill Gates takes over. I'm not a member of the FCIA. Void where cast as (void).

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Guess what browser was used to post this comment?

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Agreed! Except I'm using w3m instead. It is basically like lynx but renders tables and frames, and it is a lot lighter.

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Leknor

...But it would seem that the ISPs named in the law suit could simply put a disclaimer (the other legal favorite) that says to use the hyperlink one MUST use a mouse. Based on the description of the patent...

"...an operator is enabled to key-in to a key pad provided for the terminal numbers identifying a particular page of information which he requires "

it would seem that they have a patent on hyperlink use with a keyboard/keypad.
Of course, the drawback to this is that they would then try to sue the makers of Lynx, w3m, and other browsers that rely on the use of the keyboard.

So, surf with the mouse and use the fingers you save for BT.

Links is text WWW browser, similar to Lynx. Links displays tables, downloads on background and uses HTTP/1.1 keepalive connections. Get it from freshmeat. I can warmly recommend it over lynx any day [screenshot ]. w3m is worth a try also but I prefer Links to it.
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w3m is a full-featured character-cell web browser. Unlike Lynx, w3m supports tables, making web site layout look more like what the designers intended.
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XGNOME vs. KDE: the game!

...or links
...or w3m
...or wannaBe^2

Try w3m or, even better, links.

For raw Gecko access under Linux, put the Mozilla working directory in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH and run the TestGtkEmbed executable contained therein. For slightly less raw Gecko access, see the up and coming Galeon, a very bare bones Gnome/GTK+ browser which "wraps around" an existing Mozilla; point it to your working directory and away you go. Between these and w3m, you should be farting through silk.

From the standpoint of a business you are a poor potential customer choice.

I agree with you on this point. Sheeple that will accept whatever crap a business peddles make far better customers than those who aren't willing to be fucked around and will demand the quality that they deserve. Just ask Micros~1.

IME customers go both ways - perhaps yours want whizz-bang graphics that explode off the page at them. When I was teaching a course on browsing the web with Netscape, most of the newbie-students I was teaching were overwhelmed by how loud many of the pages were. ("It's so busy" were one's exact words.)

As for hardware, running Netscape 4.0 on a P120/16MB is a painful experience. Netscape 6 is miserable. Opera is bearable but costs money. None of them are open source, and if it was my decision my Win95 install would be on the losing end of a HD reformat. I am far happier with lynx and w3m.

Lynx requires a 386 and several MB of RAM -- if old, cheap hardware is its target, why don't they support DOS on a 286 with 1MB of RAM?

I would imagine because lynx is 32-bit code. There is a browser called Bobcat, based on Lynx, that has a subset of its functionality and runs on 16-bit machines."

Don't whine to me about the situation you have chosen to put yourself in.

If you think I'm whining, that's your problem. I wouldn't be using lynx if I didn't think that I was further ahead in doing so. When I come across a page that looks a mess and fire up Netscape to view it, I seldom find that I'm rewarded with a page proportionate to the effort required. More often, the site is remarkably content-free.

As a "crusty old" lynx user, I must say that I'm thrilled by the support I'm finding here. Maybe I should start a support group. =)
Seriously, what really pisses me off (whether I'm using lynx or arachne or Netscape 6.x) is the sheer ignorance of a significant number of webmasters. Not only do they assume that you have the latest (ie, most bloated) browser and plugins, they also presume that you're running windoze, have plenty of memory for new windows, and lots of screen real estate for gargantuan graphics and zillions of frames. The biggest problem, though, is that they really don't want to be told that they're shutting users out. They don't give a rat's ass. I've e-mailed at least a hundred (with calm, reasonable, and intelligible messages, unlike this post), none of whom made the slightest change to their websites as a result. I've given up. I guess they just want a page that looks good when viewed by the CEO on his T1-connected P-III 700 running Win2000 & Internet Exploiter 6.
Making a page that everyone can use isn't hard, and doesn't have to be bland. Ditch the frames (unless absolutely necessary), make images, scripting, plugins, and all those other multimedia goodies all optional. (And put in ALTs for fsck's sake!)

(sigh)
(PS. If you use lynx, take a look at w3m. It's an HTML pager that complements Lynx well in that it renders well the documents that lynx does poorly, and vice versa.)

Technically it is not really Konqueror supporting https but rather the kio_https module of KDE's kio system. Every KDE application can do HTTPS.

By the way, Mozilla can do HTTPS as well with the right plugins. Both have Java, Javascript support, render fast and almost with full compliancy to the specs. Konqueror can even do Netscape plugins such as Flash, I'm not sure about Mozilla but I expect that it will since it is ment to replace Navigator sooner or later.

And if that's not enough, w3m (Lynx only better ;-) can do it as well!

It works fine in the w3m text browser, which can do tables properly. I use w3m in an rxvt terminal when I don't have the ram to spare to run the Nutscrape browser, or when I am sharing files with gnapster and want to save bandwidth.

Get links at http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mi kulas/links/

W3m can be found at http://ei5nazha.yz.yamagata-u.ac .jp/~aito/w3m/eng/

I guess I should also clarify that by "doesn't handle frames", I meant that it handles them lynx-style, instead of rendering them.

Anyway, get Links at http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links
or get w3m at http://ei5nazha.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/~aito/w3m/eng/
or check out a quick text browser comparison at http://www.zinescene.org/home/browser.ht ml

1) I've not yet seen framecapable text browsers

Look at w3m, which converts frames into tables to display them.

http://ei5nazha.yz.yamagata-u.ac .jp/~aito/w3m/eng/

"w3m is a pager/text-based WWW browser. It is similar to Lynx, but has several features Lynx doesn't have. It can render tables, frames (by converting frames into tables), display a document given from standard input, and is small."

http://ei5nazha.yz.yamagata-u.ac .jp/~aito/w3m/eng/

I've downloaded it before: it works well. The page isn't responding at the moment, but you can download it at ftp://ftp.umlauf.de/pub/w3m/

Although it may look bad in Lynx. w3m is able to render it fairly well. The left column scrolls down a long way compared to the rest but its certainly usable.

I'm amazed at how many table/framed sites w3m is able to render as a text mode browser.

You can find it at http://ei5nazha.yz.yamagata-u.ac .jp/~aito/w3m/eng/

thanks, will try out. I don't read Japanese though, so the English version is preferred. :)

I recently had a harddrive crash, and my old P75 isn't too keen on running X. Mail & news is done with emacs, so I had no trouble with that, but when I wanted to check out some web sites for my daily doze of news: forget it! There's no good structural markup so Lynx is badly choking.

Go download w3m. It's smaller, faster, and cleaner than Lynx, and it does an incredible job rendering tables. It's unbelievably good -- I use it as my standard browser. If I had to choose between w3m and Netscape, I'd throw away Netscape without a second thought.

w3m has pretty much obsoleted Lynx. It's a text mode browser that supports tables, frames, and generally renders much better than Lynx does. Akinori Ito is the man.

The only real problem with lynx is lack of support for tables. Currently, I'm using w3m, a text based browser with table support. It works great for ebay, streetprices, etc. I still use lynx for slashdot because the tables on slashdot don't really contribute anything.