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Just to be clear, I said that WP7 [apps] won't run [unmodified] on WP8. Yes, that's correct. I still stand by the original gist of that claim.

That's misleading at best and outright false at worst. Microsoft has complied 100,000+ WP7 apps in the cloud so that they work for WP8. So from the perspective of a WP7 dev, the apps run unmodified from their end and they don't have to put any effort towards modifying their app. They DO NOT have to worry about the 35+ "breaking changes" that you quote.

Again, how different is a WP7 dev's situation with WP8 coming with the Android dev's situation with a new version coming?

http://blogs.windows.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/2012/04/05/windows-8-and-the-windows-phone-sdk-pt-2.aspx

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/windows-phone-8-whats-microsofts-developer-story/12353

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsofts-windows-phone-8-finally-gets-a-real-windows-core/12975

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-details-its-strategy-for-compiling-windows-phone-apps-in-the-cloud-7000007185/

http://www.i-programmer.info/professional-programmer/i-programmer/4402-the-astonishing-tale-of-wp8-compiling-100000-apps.html

Just to be clear, I said that WP7 [apps] won't run [unmodified] on WP8. Yes, that's correct. I still stand by the original gist of that claim.

That's misleading at best and outright false at worst. Microsoft has complied 100,000+ WP7 apps in the cloud so that they work for WP8. So from the perspective of a WP7 dev, the apps run unmodified from their end and they don't have to put any effort towards modifying their app. They DO NOT have to worry about the 35+ "breaking changes" that you quote.

Again, how different is a WP7 dev's situation with WP8 coming with the Android dev's situation with a new version coming?

http://blogs.windows.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/2012/04/05/windows-8-and-the-windows-phone-sdk-pt-2.aspx

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/windows-phone-8-whats-microsofts-developer-story/12353

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsofts-windows-phone-8-finally-gets-a-real-windows-core/12975

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-details-its-strategy-for-compiling-windows-phone-apps-in-the-cloud-7000007185/

http://www.i-programmer.info/professional-programmer/i-programmer/4402-the-astonishing-tale-of-wp8-compiling-100000-apps.html

Meanwhile, iOS devices lose their magical ability to sync when iCloud goes down, and Windows Azure loses its ability to do anything when it goes down. Google Drive being down (per Google) or showing "sluggishness" (per your article) isn't any different.

Yes, but Apple and Microsoft are not pushing computers with 16GB total storage and 9GB of free space and then giving 100GB or 1TB of cloud storage(free only for a few years mind you) to placate that. Google is pretty much the only one that's heavily pushing users towards being slaves of their cloud. And yet the Linux crowd seem to cheer them on.
For example see:

  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/five-reasons-why-googles-linux-chromebook-is-a-windows-killer/8887

With backing links & pertinent quotes/excerpts from them:

SAME GOES FOR WINDOWS (it's apps on it that represent the MAJORITY of what gets exploited):

"Nearly nine out of ten security vulnerabilities in Windows computers last year were the fault of popular third-party applications, as opposed to Microsoft's own software." FROM -> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/15/secunia_vulnerability_research/

(And, that's "hot off the presses"/current...)

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Linux STILL needs patches @ the core - all the way from kernel build 2.6 thru current ones (been there for ages on this one):

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Linux STILL needs patching @ kernel level in 2013, thru ALL distros 2.6-3.8 current:

http://www.zdnet.com/linux-kernel-exploit-gets-patched-7000011844/

(Face facts, that THAT line of "b.s." of "Linux = Secure & Windows != Secure" just DOESN'T HOLD ANY WATER - the core of Linux STILL gets patched vs. vulnerabilities, just like Windows NT-based OS, & they ARE RELATIVELY THE SAME AGE too! Thus, proving (especially via ANDROID) that "the most used = most attacked"...)

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Apparently, I need to put out more on that note, so here goes (as to Linux's "fine security showing" over the past couple years now/current history):

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2012:

New Linux Rootkit Emerges:

https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/new-linux-rootkit-emerges-112012

"A new Linux rootkit has emerged and researchers who have analyzed its code and operation say that the malware appears to be a custom-written tool designed to inject iframes into Web sites and drive traffic to malicious sites for drive-by download attacks. The rootkit is designed specifically for 64-bit Linux systems."

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'FIRST ever' Linux, Mac OS X-only password sniffing virus spotted:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/linux_mac_trojan/

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Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

What's health.utah.gov running too??

YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

* Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

===

2011:

KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kernel.org: (that's VERY bad - do you trust it now?)

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/08/31/2321232/Kernelorg-Compromised

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Linux.com pwned in fresh round of cyber break-ins:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/12/more_linux_sites_down/

---

Mysql.com Hacked, Made To Serve Malware:

http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/09/26/2218238/mysqlcom-hacked-made-to-serve-malware

What's that site running? You guessed it - Linux -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=mysql.com

With backing links & pertinent quotes/excerpts from them:

SAME GOES FOR WINDOWS (it's apps on it that represent the MAJORITY of what gets exploited):

"Nearly nine out of ten security vulnerabilities in Windows computers last year were the fault of popular third-party applications, as opposed to Microsoft's own software." FROM -> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/15/secunia_vulnerability_research/

(And, that's "hot off the presses"/current...)

+

Linux STILL needs patches @ the core - all the way from kernel build 2.6 thru current ones (been there for ages on this one):

---

Linux STILL needs patching @ kernel level in 2013, thru ALL distros 2.6-3.8 current:

http://www.zdnet.com/linux-kernel-exploit-gets-patched-7000011844/

(Face facts, that THAT line of "b.s." of "Linux = Secure & Windows != Secure" just DOESN'T HOLD ANY WATER - the core of Linux STILL gets patched vs. vulnerabilities, just like Windows NT-based OS, & they ARE RELATIVELY THE SAME AGE too! Thus, proving (especially via ANDROID) that "the most used = most attacked"...)

---

Apparently, I need to put out more on that note, so here goes (as to Linux's "fine security showing" over the past couple years now/current history):

---

2012:

New Linux Rootkit Emerges:

https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/new-linux-rootkit-emerges-112012

"A new Linux rootkit has emerged and researchers who have analyzed its code and operation say that the malware appears to be a custom-written tool designed to inject iframes into Web sites and drive traffic to malicious sites for drive-by download attacks. The rootkit is designed specifically for 64-bit Linux systems."

---

'FIRST ever' Linux, Mac OS X-only password sniffing virus spotted:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/linux_mac_trojan/

---

Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

What's health.utah.gov running too??

YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

* Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

===

2011:

KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kernel.org: (that's VERY bad - do you trust it now?)

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/08/31/2321232/Kernelorg-Compromised

---

Linux.com pwned in fresh round of cyber break-ins:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/12/more_linux_sites_down/

---

Mysql.com Hacked, Made To Serve Malware:

http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/09/26/2218238/mysqlcom-hacked-made-to-serve-malware

What's that site running? You guessed it - Linux -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=mysql.com

1st, get back to us when MySQL can handle *NIX dates past 2038 (known issue), as far as databases go.

Secondly, regarding THIS "trollish stupidity" out of you quoted next below - Here's some contrary data regarding Linux & it's "invulnerability" from current recent history 2011 to present:

"I'm amazed they haven't learned; don't use windows. Especially for a database and even more so for a database that hosts vulnerability information" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 14, @11:15AM (#43171307)

On databases, especially "Open SORES"? See above. On Linux "fine security"?? See next below:

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2012:

New Linux Rootkit Emerges:

https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/new-linux-rootkit-emerges-112012

"A new Linux rootkit has emerged and researchers who have analyzed its code and operation say that the malware appears to be a custom-written tool designed to inject iframes into Web sites and drive traffic to malicious sites for drive-by download attacks. The rootkit is designed specifically for 64-bit Linux systems."

---

'FIRST ever' Linux, Mac OS X-only password sniffing virus spotted:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/linux_mac_trojan/

---

Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

What's health.utah.gov running too??

YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

* Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

===

2011:

KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kernel.org: (that's VERY bad - do you trust it now?)

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/08/31/2321232/Kernelorg-Compromised

---

Linux.com pwned in fresh round of cyber break-ins:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/12/more_linux_sites_down/

---

Mysql.com Hacked, Made To Serve Malware:

http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/09/26/2218238/mysqlcom-hacked-made-to-serve-malware

What's that site running? You guessed it - Linux -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=mysql.com

---

London Stock Exchange serving malware:

http://slashdot.org/submission/1484548/London-Stock-Exchange-Web-Site-Serving-Malware

(I mean hey - NOT ONLY DID LINUX FALL FLAT ON ITS FACE less than a few minutes into the job http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/02/19/0147232/London-Stock-Exchange-Price-Errors-Emerged-At-Linux-Launch, & crash not only ONCE, but TWICE there? You see "Linux 'fine security'" in motion @ the LSE too!)

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DUQU ROOTKIT/BOTNET BEING SERVED FROM LINUX SERVERS:

You forgot them killing the open standard CalDAV support and replacing with their proprietary Calendar API.

http://www.zdnet.com/google-do-what-you-want-with-reader-but-dont-kill-caldav-7000012628/

Or you can completely wrong, it was ATI that did this: http://www.zdnet.com/ati-suffers-wrath-of-jobs-3002080337/

It is changing: I think S series is "overselling" (or "outselling"?) iPhones, in recent times, as exposed in news like these * sorry by my bad English - I'm Brazilian

Are you thinking ATI? Or did the same thing happen to both of them? http://www.zdnet.com/ati-suffers-wrath-of-jobs-3002080337/

"Nobody" uses ChromeOS? Perhaps this will make you should rethink your conclusion...

Microsoft used to not spend any money on political campaigns. Then, after a while, they figured out enough to post political contributions on both sides and then to hire a lobbyist to advocate for them.

Another older example

Jun 30, 2003 Â CNET News.com's Declan McCullagh explains why the software maker has quietly given marching orders to its phalanx of lobbyists to get the government to ...

Of course, Google couldn't be left behind

It's not as if this is anything new. Industry boards have long written laws: not just outlines, not just drafts, but the entire full set and exact wording just as they want it to be. That you can search for yourself. There are thousands of examples of that.

But if you actually try to make use of that source code, Google puts a spanner in the works.

Newsflash: You can't have your cake and eat it to.

If you've made an agreement to work towards making Android the dominant mobile OS, then yeah, creating an incompatible fork is likely to get you kicked out of the OHA. If you've made no such agreement, or no longer want to be a part of the OHA, you'll have no troubles.

Also, forking the SDK is now banned. How is Android open again?

It's not. Troll harder please.

Haha, the same alliance with secret agreements that banned Acer from making Aliyun phones?

http://www.zdnet.com/cn/report-google-stops-acer-from-launching-aliyun-phone-in-china-7000004246/

http://marketingland.com/google-acer-android-aliyun-21631

How "Open" is the Open Handset Alliance? Not so much. Great branding and PR by Google though.

But if you actually try to make use of that source code, Google puts a spanner in the works.

http://www.zdnet.com/cn/report-google-stops-acer-from-launching-aliyun-phone-in-china-7000004246/

Also, forking the SDK is now banned. How is Android open again?

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/01/04/1339206/the-android-sdk-is-no-longer-free-software

Their PR is amazing though, no one in this article even remembers the above and the Google shills are in full force shielding Google and blaming "evil" China.

Android is only "open" in name. Google will put the ban hammer on you if you fork it, just like Microsoft did to squelch BeOS.

http://www.zdnet.com/cn/report-google-stops-acer-from-launching-aliyun-phone-in-china-7000004246/
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Google-prevents-Acer-from-distributing-phones-with-Aliyun-OS-1709555.html

Also, forking the SDK is now banned. How is Android open again?

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/01/04/1339206/the-android-sdk-is-no-longer-free-software

Well, here's one, for real. Actually two.

http://www.zdnet.com/google-app-engine-has-a-friday-fail-7000006451/

http://techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/google-app-engine-goes-down-and-stays-down/

Warning: the Java installer will install the ask.com toolbar if you click the "yes, please just install my security update" button, even for the original install you declined the toolbar -- really an obnoxious abuse of updates. Here is a very interesting analysis of the whole back and forth between the ask.com installer and the browsers trying to keep junk out. Interesting tidbit: apparently the ask.com installer sleeps for 10 minutes, so if you try to "remove" right afterwards, it's not there yet. This is on Windows, not sure across all platforms. Oracle taking this little tiny income stream from ask.com in exchange for screwing over tons of users and admins seems like a big mistake by Oracle, and would just sort of bug me if I were an engineer at Oracle spending all this time trying to make Java better.

The thing is, the "slower" drives are plenty fast enough for Tivos and whatnot. The drive is not the limiting factor on streaming recorded HD content. It's the CPU that determines whether your digital recorder/player can do full 1080.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ou/how-higher-rpm-hard-drives-rip-you-off/322

The other issue is that faster RPMs doesn't necessarily mean better performance for your application. When dealing with large media files, it's pretty irrelevant since you're doing sequential IO the vast majority of the time.

When you can put 512 Gigabit/sec over a single fiber what's to build? Future improvements may scale that to 24,600 Gigabit per fiber.

>Its kind of ironic that you would try to do the same in they year Android is set to overtake window as the primary OS

So it's time to lift the monopoly restrictions on Microsoft, don't you think? Why is a company that is not even the primary OS being forced to show a browser dialog in EU while Google is free to abuse Android and the OEMs as it wishes? http://www.zdnet.com/cn/report-google-stops-acer-from-launching-aliyun-phone-in-china-7000004246/

Is that the same model that sold only 5000 in a few months, worse than the Kin?

http://www.zdnet.com/chromebook-looks-like-another-googleflop-4010024772/

So that they can screw up the UI with their shitty skins, install unremovable always running crapware and then not update it for a couple of years like they do with their Android phones? And then be beholden to stupid carrier crapware? Thank heavens Microsoft doesn't allow that crap to happen.

For example look at what HTC and the carriers install on Android and which cannot be uninstalled and then cause serious security issues which are never fixed.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/virtualization/bloatware-a-creeping-problem/4173

The HTC Thunderbolt is a nice HTC Android device that came with the following software that I don't use, didn't want and can't remove:
Amazon Kindle
Verizon Backup Assistant (tied to a service offering I don't use)
Bitbop
Blockbuster
Friendstream
Let's Golf 2
Mobile Hotspot (a poor replacement for the native Android hotspot that is tied to charging the user again for the "unlimited" data plan they've already purchased)
Peep (a poor Twitter client)
Rhapsody (a music service)
Rock Band (a game)
TuneWiki (lord knows what this is)
V CAST Media
V CAST Music
V CAST Tones
V CAST Videos
VZ Navigator
Several apps from Sprint or HTC come pre-installed on the HTC EVO 4G. These include:
Footprints
Amazon Mp3 Store
NASCAR Sprint Cup Mobile
Qik
Sprint Football Live
Sprint Navigation
Sprint TV

Windows Phone disallows always running services and any carrier bundled software can be easily uninstalled in about five seconds.

You have a strange definition of "no one". This was from almost a year ago too.

"When the US Gov abolishes Windows, I will assume it is serious. Until then, this is political theatre." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 19, @12:18PM (#42946135)

See my subject-line, & some INSIGHT into Linux's "fine security" in recent years (especially Android):

2012:

New Linux Rootkit Emerges:

https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/new-linux-rootkit-emerges-112012

"A new Linux rootkit has emerged and researchers who have analyzed its code and operation say that the malware appears to be a custom-written tool designed to inject iframes into Web sites and drive traffic to malicious sites for drive-by download attacks. The rootkit is designed specifically for 64-bit Linux systems."

---

'FIRST ever' Linux, Mac OS X-only password sniffing virus spotted:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/linux_mac_trojan/

---

Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

What's health.utah.gov running too??

YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

* Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

===

2011:

KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kernel.org: (that's VERY bad - do you trust it now?)

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/08/31/2321232/Kernelorg-Compromised

---

Linux.com pwned in fresh round of cyber break-ins:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/12/more_linux_sites_down/

---

Mysql.com Hacked, Made To Serve Malware:

http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/09/26/2218238/mysqlcom-hacked-made-to-serve-malware

What's that site running? You guessed it - Linux -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=mysql.com

---

London Stock Exchange serving malware:

http://slashdot.org/submission/1484548/London-Stock-Exchange-Web-Site-Serving-Malware

(I mean hey - NOT ONLY DID LINUX FALL FLAT ON ITS FACE less than a few minutes into the job http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/02/19/0147232/London-Stock-Exchange-Price-Errors-Emerged-At-Linux-Launch, & crash not only ONCE, but TWICE there? You see "Linux 'fine security'" in motion @ the LSE too!)

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DUQU ROOTKIT/BOTNET BEING SERVED FROM LINUX SERVERS:

http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/11/30/1610228/duqu-attackers-managed-to-wipe-cc-servers

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Linux Foundation, Linux.com Sites Down To Fix Security Breach:

There's no way I'm every going to buy the mobile operating system they've released for my desktop.

The bad news for you is the desktop is dead. The writing has been on the wall for years.

nah, they are probably playing the "Razor Scam". Sell you the main product for cheap, break-even, or even at-a-loss, then gouge you with the consumables it uses all the time, at a great markup. See also "printer ink cartridge scam".

So I'd expect the gadget itself to sell reasonable, but then these "pods" will go for $10 ea, and contain about a nickel's worth of hydrogen. And maybe a DRM chip to prevent you from refilling it.

A "solution good for the consumer" would be rechargeable pods, that you can simply fill to the line with water and then plug into the wall, where they split some water and generate some hydrogen to recharge themselves. (and either store the oxygen in the cell too, or maybe vent it outside, or pressurize some O2 cylinders you can sell back to your local airgas co?) Though they'd take awhile to recharge. I suppose it may generate O2 slowly enough to not be a hazard.

The only non-cheap part of the system is the membrane for the cell or the catalyst for the recharger.

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic about it. But I think the biggest challenge in fuel-cell technology right now is the big players in the market that will find serious new competition in fuel cells. Look at the rechargeable battery industry. When you threaten to dump a new product on the market with a much higher energy density and lower cost than the alternative they're offering, they tend to freak out. I haven't seen any public account of pressure and sabotage from those groups on fuel cell tech, but I'd expect it's happening, on a significant scale, even if out of the current public eye.

That reminds me, I recall reading a year or so ago that someone came up with a way to convert natural gas to H and 2O in the cell, and that made it powerable directly from natural gas. Imagine that, a computer that runs on a little cylinder like a 20gram CO2 from your pellet gun, full of natural gas. Fuel cells are cool. Wish we used them more.

"Your wrong the only thing Android proved is that Google were idiots for using Java!!!" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14, @04:25AM (#42893639)

1st of all - you're RIGHT on THAT account, however: Hairyfeet's NOT WRONG either!

(He knows I have said the same thing he did MANY TIMES here as well on that very note too - IN FACT, a "canned cut & paste" of my former proofs on that note are in my 'p.s.' below, that I've posted here MANY times the past 2-3 yrs. now in fact... noting Android @ its termination on the SAME POINT hairyfeet noted!).

I.E.-> Android IS A LINUX variant (based on a Linux kernel) & it's showing that once an OS is most used on ANY computing platform? It becomes the MOST ATTACKED - period!

He's also correct that Linux proper, as on PC's, does get exploited, but not as much since it is in "last place" by a HUGE margin as opposed to Windows &/or MacOS X in terms of marketshare/usership on PC desktops!

Thus, it truly HAS been hiding behind "security-by-obscurity", & Android shows that much on smartphones (where it IS "king", displacing Apple's iOS).

I've seen Linux be exploited on servers too though (where it has a valid 'niche' & is OFTEN used)...

In fact - Some "examples thereof" are listed in my 'p.s.' below in fact!

(very, Very, VERY BAD ones too, no less!)

APK

P.S.=> From recent history (2010-2013 currently):

2012:

New Linux Rootkit Emerges:

https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/new-linux-rootkit-emerges-112012

"A new Linux rootkit has emerged and researchers who have analyzed its code and operation say that the malware appears to be a custom-written tool designed to inject iframes into Web sites and drive traffic to malicious sites for drive-by download attacks. The rootkit is designed specifically for 64-bit Linux systems."

---

'FIRST ever' Linux, Mac OS X-only password sniffing virus spotted:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/linux_mac_trojan/

---

Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

What's health.utah.gov running too??

YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

* Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

===

2011:

KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kernel.org: (that's VERY bad - do you trust it now?)

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/08/31/2321232/Kernelorg-Compromised

---

Linux.com pwned in fresh round of cyber break-ins:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/12/more_linux_sites_down/

---

Mysql.com Hacked, Made To Serve Malware:

http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/09/26/2218238/mysqlcom-hacked-made-to-serve-malware

What's that site running? You guessed it - Linux -> http://uptime.netc

Hi Mrs AC shill? How is the pay from MSFT these days? in case you want to know what gave it away its the fact that you said Win 8 "launched" only 2 days ago. We all know that is a crock of shit but MSFT in its memos have been calling the release of Surface pro a "relaunch" of Win 8 so only those that are following the "reboot" theory, which is pretty much confined to Redmond, are buying that bullshit.

I mean do I REALLY have to wallpaper this page with all the figures showing win 8 has been bombing since it flopped onto the market in Oct, how the MSFT team is trying to blame OEMs for not building a pile of $1000 WinTabs that the OEMs rightly pointed out would sell about as well as the few $1000 Tablets they had which is to say none at all, so they would have ended up in the same warehouse the failed ultrabooks is now rotting in. I can also of course paste link after link of OEMs saying the same thing, win 8 is a flop that makes the Vista launch look like Win95, and of course the press have dubbed it "Windows Frankenstein" and written articles that say "Windows 8 yes its THAT bad". and even the tech writers are uninstalling it. Of course some of us and some tech sites pointed out this would happen awhile ago because it ignores even basic user conventions. while giving ZERO context or even hints as to WTF the user is supposed to do. in my own experience this is what I saw in my shop only with more frustration and cursing involved.

So if you need more links Mrs AC shill please feel free to ask, not like anything I've been saying is exactly new or radical. Nice thing about speaking the truth, you can provide plenty of citations. and just for the record i have been a Windows user and seller since 3.1 and there have only been TWO, count 'em two, times I've not stayed with and sold a version of Windows. First was WinME which was inferior in every way to Win98, the second is Windows 8. Yes I ran Vista and sold Vista units until I saw it was gonna take MSFT ages to fix the bugs I kept running into but with both winME and Win 8 the experience was just too nasty for me to dump on users, I'm sorry but they sucked the big wet titty.

No kidding.

Alternative entertainment: http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-reveals-ample-fed-access-fbi-opens-criminal-investigation-7000011073/

Wrong: "A Windows user will see 97.5 GB in File Explorer"

I wonder if this and Java are related to the HUE monster security update for IE?

Yeah it'd be crazy for major sites with millions of visitors every day to use something as untested as MariaDB.

After a decade in the console market Microsoft's Xbox 360 is the last place console this gen

(Emphasis added)

You might want to pull your head out of your ass before sticking your foot halfway down your throat:

360 Maintains Lead in US Console Market (TechNet blog - Feb 2012)
Xbox maintains Console lead in US for 18th consecutive month(ZD Net - Jul 2012)
Xbox 360 marks 22 months atop U.S. console market(Geekwire - Nov 2012)

Seriously, how the fuck do any of those stats equate to: "it's [a] failure"??

In fact, it's only when you compare world-wide figures for ALL generations of Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo consoles that Microsoft comes in 3rd place (~25% marketshare). But that's including Sony's PS/1, PS/2 AND PS/3 sales and all of Nintendo's sales against the original xBox and the 360. (Bearing in mind that Microsoft didn't enter the game until the PS/2 came out!) Nevertheless, in the current gen, Xbox has sold more current-gen consoles month over month than Sony; virtually for the entire life of the PS/3 and the 360 has surpassed both the PS/3 AND Wii sales for the past two years.

What matters though, is that at the current time, Microsoft is the king of the pile for current gen consoles in North America, and is continuing to make money for MS as the major players move towards the next-gen, so, by any measure, it's definitely not a "failure"... (it MADE Microsoft in-excess of US$56bn over the past 7 years, if that's a "failure", you can sign me up to "fail" just like that!)

So, maybe, in the future, when you're thinking about mouthing-off over something you don't know fuck-all about, you should just STFU and appear contemplative instead of retarded?

-AC

I don't usually respond to ACs, but when figures need correcting I make an exception. MS shipped 1.25m Surface tablets Q4 last year but sales figures were only around 700,000. Compared to iPad sales of 22million over the same quarter, that's awful for a major-league product from a tech titan like MS: http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-surface-with-windows-rt-tablet-sales-disappoint-in-fourth-quarter-7000010688/

Windows 8 also doesn't have anywhere else to go but up. It's first quarters numbers will always be inflated by people chasing the latest and greatest at any cost, large enterprises stockpiling licenses early. Also, while it's profit isn't exactly weak, it's certainly not as dominant as it was was 2010 Q1 and previously, especially compared to other tech companies - the eponymous Apple being on of them - that seem to be capitalising nicely on Microsoft's slow erosion. Whether it can be halted is another matter but based on recent sales figures, it's not looking good for Microsoft ever returning to it's former glory days.

As anyone who deals in this knows XNA is a dead end and DirectX most certainly is not. They are retiring the XNA part of the XNA/DirectX MVP.

Link

Microsoft is not getting rid of DirectX.

Microsoft has been harping on about this before. They previously said they themselves couldn't promise to keep their users' data private to the degree required by EU law.

As I see it, what they're doing is trying to poison the whole idea of cloud services, because in poisoning their own market they also poison Google's. And while to Microsoft, 'cloud services' are an expensive and annoying distraction, to Google it's central to their entire business strategy.

Rounded corners, rectangular design, rows of icons; pretty risky in these days of patent wars*

[*] - http://www.zdnet.com/the-verdict-is-in-samsung-vs-apple-7000003163/

Windows is/was as low as third?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/windows-drops-to-no-3-cash-cow-status-in-microsoft-latest-quarter/11696

"Windows and Office: They've been Microsoft's two biggest cash cows since... forever.

But in Microsoft's second fiscal 2012 quarter ending December 31, 2011, Windows/Windows Live dropped to No. 3, behind the Microsoft Business Division (home of Office) and Server and Tools. "

After actually reading the articles, I am still unclear about two things when your subscription expires: 1) How long will I have access to my documents? According to current documentation for enterprises and small business:

When a subscription is removed, all data is permanently lost.

http://onlinehelp.microsoft.com/En-ca/office365-enterprises/hh143495.aspx http://onlinehelp.microsoft.com/en-ca/office365-smallbusinesses/hh143522.aspx 2) Subscribers get an additional 20GB in Skydrive. What happens to my documents if I am using 100% of Skydrive (including the additional 20GB)? Is there a grace period? They don't make it easy to find the information to these questions. The answers are likely the same for any other cloud service that provides a free and paid offering but why do we have to guess.

From: http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-office-365-home-premium-what-happens-when-subscriptions-expire-7000010498/ "For users with an Office 365 Home Premium subscription, as the expiration date of that subscription approaches, users will receive notifications inside the Office applications and via e-mail to remind/nag users about the approaching expiration date. Once the subscription expires, the Office apps will enter a "read-only reduced functionality mode." This means users will be able to view or print documents, but won't be able to create any new documents or edit existing documents. Users who want to regain their full Office capabilities will be able to purchase a new subscription (via Office.com) or a set of predesignated retailers. Users also will have the choice of simply using older, existing versions of Office or to just use the free Office Web Apps on SkyDrive for basic editing. If a user has stored documents created/edited with Office 365 Home Premium in their SkyDrives, these documents will still be downloadable once subscriptions expire. Users can save SkyDrive documents to another computer or drive at any time, according to Microsoft. (With Office 365 Home Premium, users get an additional 20 GB of storage on top of their existing SkyDrive quotas.)"

Fast forward to a world of locked bootloaders and I could see PC vendors having a "no-OS, bare hardware, unlocked bootloader" checkbox on every single system they sell.

Unless Microsoft changes the terms of the Windows OEM license to make it economically infeasible to offer such an option, such as its crusade a few years ago against the "naked PC".

It would cost vendors little to do this.

Other than likely having to pay full retail for Windows if the same company sells PCs without an operating system.

Your country is no different. Neither is mine. In fact, these laws and punishments are pretty universals.

http://www.zdnet.com/au/cybercrime-bill-passes-senate-set-to-become-law-7000002971/

Meanwhile, Microsoft is offering a free copy of Windows 8 to anyone who cracks Windows 8. Accounting for pi percent of their anemic sales.

http://www.zdnet.com/news/amazon-pays-40-million-to-settle-patent-dispute/144171

A gem from the not too distant past

The code was "written" by a contractor, and MIcrosoft immediately took action. I think turning that into "Microsoft has already stolen code" is unfair. Much as I dislike Microsoft and their business practices, I'm pretty sure they don't make a habit of "stealing" GPL code themselves. It would make very little sense for them to do so.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-admits-its-gpl-violation-will-reissue-windows-7-tool-under-open-source-license/4547

Fiber is futureproof.
Cat 7 is a little better than Cat 5 for new cabling.
$20 buys 100 feet.
It will do 100 Gigabit.

London Stock Exchange serving malware:

http://slashdot.org/submission/1484548/London-Stock-Exchange-Web-Site-Serving-Malware

(I mean hey - NOT ONLY DID LINUX FALL FLAT ON ITS FACE less than a few minutes into the job:

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/02/19/0147232/London-Stock-Exchange-Price-Errors-Emerged-At-Linux-Launch

Then, & crash not only ONCE, but TWICE there? You see "Linux 'fine security'" in motion @ the LSE too!

LESSON - A RECENT HISTORY OF LINUX IN SECURITY!

2012:

New Linux Rootkit Emerges:

https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/new-linux-rootkit-emerges-112012

"A new Linux rootkit has emerged and researchers who have analyzed its code and operation say that the malware appears to be a custom-written tool designed to inject iframes into Web sites and drive traffic to malicious sites for drive-by download attacks. The rootkit is designed specifically for 64-bit Linux systems."

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'FIRST ever' Linux, Mac OS X-only password sniffing virus spotted:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/linux_mac_trojan/

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Medicaid hack update: 500,000 records and 280,000 SSNs stolen:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/medicaid-hack-update-500000-records-and-280000-ssns-stolen/11444

So, what's dts.utah.gov running everyone?

LINUX (and yes, it got HACKED) -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=dts.utah.gov

What's health.utah.gov running too??

YOU GUESSED IT: LINUX AGAIN -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=health.utah.gov

* Ah, yes - see the YEARS OF /. "BS" FUD is CRUMBLING AROUND THE PENGUINS EARS HERE & 2012's starting out just like 2011 did below!

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2011:

KERNEL.ORG COMPROMISED - The Cracking of Kernel.org: (that's VERY bad - do you trust it now?)

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/08/31/2321232/Kernelorg-Compromised

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Linux.com pwned in fresh round of cyber break-ins:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/12/more_linux_sites_down/

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Mysql.com Hacked, Made To Serve Malware:

http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/09/26/2218238/mysqlcom-hacked-made-to-serve-malware

What's that site running? You guessed it - Linux -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=mysql.com

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London Stock Exchange serving malware:

http://slashdot.org/submission/1484548/London-Stock-Exchange-Web-Site-Serving-Malware

(I mean hey - NOT ONLY DID LINUX FALL FLAT ON ITS FACE less than a few minutes into the job http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/02/19/0147232/London-Stock-Exchange-Price-Errors-Emerged-At-Linux-Launch, & crash not only ONCE, but TWICE there? You see "Linux 'fine security'" in motion @ the LSE too!)

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DUQU ROOTKIT/BOTNET BEING SER

they tried to advertise Windows and .NET with one of their "studies" years ago when the London Stock Exchange started using their products for it's trading system and they even made a nice video about it:

Get the Facts: The London Stock Exchange
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSM55bsCrM

but it looks like it didn't turn out that well..

London Stock Exchange to abandon failed Windows platform
http://blogs.computerworld.com/london_stock_exchange_to_abandon_failed_windows_platform

London Stock Exchange dumps Windows for Linux
http://www.linuxtoday.com/high_performance/2009100702835NWDPSV

The London Stock Exchange moves to Novell Linux
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-london-stock-exchange-moves-to-novell-linux/8285

maybe they learned their lesson now