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Tux Works for Microsoft?!

Jadecristal writes: "From the contact info on the USB group contact page under Microsoft's record, one might get the impression that Tux worked for Microsoft. Perhaps he is being held against his will ... " Would any Microsoft employees care to disclose the whereabouts of a certain "Mr. Tux the penguin," and perhaps say which freezers he favors while in Redmond? Better yet, would any Microsoft employees like to comment on how many internal-to-Microsoft servers Mr. Tux currently powers?

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  1. Lots of M$ employees have a Linux box or two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Right in their office! You'd think Bill'd come around and get pissed, but for some reason he doesn't. Maybe they just want to know their enemy, or maybe they're just using it because THEY LIKE IT. But if a microsoftie wants Linux, he gets another PC from supplies, gets a copy of Linux from whereever, and installs it.

    They're much less dogmatic about it then many NT shops. Or the sysop at my job, for that matter - won't allow any Linux boxes on his network unless all services are disabled and he has, in his own words, "exclusive root privilege".
    One would think that he'd never heard of a boot floppy. Maybe he hasn't - he's an SGI guy.
    He only puts up with them at all because some people like them for number-crunching, but he thinks open-source is too insecure to ever use for any type of server.

    But the NT developers team have Linux boxes in their offices. Go figure.

  2. Moderate this up as funny! :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Moderate this up!

  3. ok, now I'm confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Usually "moderate this up" refers to the parent comment, but the fact that it was moderated up made it funny.

    Was the moderator justified in moderating it up?

  4. Re:I've got a slack-7.0 box at Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    (Same person as parent thread here. Just reading and posting from work. heh.)

    Actually, not that tempted most of the time. While it was cool to segregate my 100base switch from the corporate LAN and play around, Network Security generally frowns on sending unhappy packets around. And if you ever think for a minute that they aren't watching you, all you have to do is open NetMon from the SMS2 distrobution, and normally you'll at least get some email wanting to know WHY you've got a packet capture utility on corporate LAN. They are fairly protective of their assets. :)

  5. Bruce Perens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I hereby donate this /. account to Bruce Perens, in order that he use it to advance the free software dealie - I saw so much crap pretending to be him on the main page, I registered my own permutation of the name. So, Brucie, I now declare that the UID Bruce_Perins will not be your responsibility, unless you respond to this message and give me an address. If you do, I'll give you the password, elsewise I'll just keep the account dormant. Mmmmm.... grits....

  6. No wonder I didn't get it! by mfearby · · Score: 1

    Looks like some dude hacked their site and usb.org have cleaned it up before I got there!

    And I thought I was just stupid (I know that's leaving myself open for flames there, but what the hey?)

  7. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by MoOsEb0y · · Score: 1

    1 word.... ROFTLWLMFAO!!!!!!!!! .. I am bustin up here!!!

  8. Re:Its more sinister than it appears... by osu-neko · · Score: 1
    Also, 1118 multiplied by 333/559

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  9. Now it says Mark Williams by judd · · Score: 1

    I don't see any mention of Tux, just Mark Williams.

    Interesting. This must mean that Slahdot is read in Redmond. And since this story's only been up for a couple of hours when I looked, is must be read with keen interest.

  10. Re:It comes with the job. by CYberPhreak · · Score: 1

    Yes, and it is also the case that the Dust Puppy will be helping him... I have recently removed this information from a reliable source.

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  11. Re:Tux's contact details: by hobbit · · Score: 1

    Once again, repeat after me:

    NOT ALL OF SLASHDOT'S READERSHIP IS AMERICAN

    thanks,
    Hamish

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  12. Re:Mark Williams is Tux??????? by slpalmer · · Score: 1

    I wonder if this would be the same Mark Williams that used to distribute Coherent UNIX?
    Kinda makes ya' wonder ;-)

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  13. Re: Right to copy secrets by Far� · · Score: 1
    Perhaps the policy of GPL-ing top-secret documents and spy communiqués should be reviewed and revised

    Ttttt. Don't confuse Rights and Opportunity. Everyone has the Right to copy, modify and distribute our top secret information. But if we're good, no one will have the opportunity. And if we're not so good and the information does fall into enemy hands, then no amount of weeping about bogus rights will save us.

    Of course, if someone does something wrong so as to access the information (such as breaking into our house), then we may legitimately prosecute them for this deed. But we may not prosecute them for having the information itself, or prosecute anyone else who uses it without having taken part in the possible illegitimate activities involved. If we want to secure some information, it is our duty to take appropriate measures; governments shouldn't interfere by granting "intellectual property" priviledges and otherwise asserting various "secrets".

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  14. Re:oh my gawd by PD · · Score: 1

    Klingon Lawyer: Captain Kirk to this day holds a grudge against Klingons! PLAY THE TAPE!

    Captain Kirk (recording): I can never forgive them for what they did to my penguin.

  15. Re:No doubt... by Duke+of+URL · · Score: 1

    On the subject of impersonators Ender...
    What do you do when you find out that I've been using that name on Slashdot for a long time?

  16. Re:A hack? (or crack?) by Chokai · · Score: 1

    It is not uncommon for Microsoft Research to throw up non Windows servers for some reason or other. They had a Linux box running apache up for some time IIRC.

  17. Re:Yes Virginia, Linux does exist at Microsoft by chuckw · · Score: 1

    Weeeellllllll, they do have all of the free drinks you can handle, but I never saw any food in the freezers. That would have been nice though.
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  18. Re:Mail? But Tux doesn't power their BSOD service by Roundeye · · Score: 1
    The interesting thing about this particular troll is that I think it might be a Bruce Perens comment generating Perl script. Dude - open the source, please!

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  19. Re:He's Free! by sakti · · Score: 1
    Nope... but Kavi does. ;)
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  20. Re:But will federal/state laws accept GPLed guns? by Felinoid · · Score: 1

    Sounds like an idea for a new 3D first person shooter...
    Guns deposited by replicator... You are allowed to add imporvments so each generation of guns is better than the preveous...

    Call it OWD Open Wepentry Develupment :)
    Just a thought

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  21. Re: an old Pentium box will work by CodeShark · · Score: 1
    --pathetic attempt at humor mode on--

    Well, that should take a while...finding an old pentium box -- that still works.

    Don't believe me? Think about it most old pentium boxes that were sold run M$ operating systems. And everybody knows that the best use for an old M$ operating system based computer is still Minesweeper. Which is a game, not work.

    --pathetic attempt at humor mode off--

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  22. NOOOO!!! by LionMan · · Score: 1

    They got him!!!! ARGH!!!!! -LLM

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  23. I'm sure it was intended to be a joke. by Edmund · · Score: 1

    I'm sure it was all intended to be a silly joke which somehow slipped through.

    Don't know what the executives are going to say about this, though... ;)

    1. Re:I'm sure it was intended to be a joke. by Haven · · Score: 1

      This is not a JOKE! Did you read the source code for the page? Its a Visual Basic script that reads the information in your swap file and transferes it to the lab at microsoft. This way they can steal your OSS project that you are running. Just do an IFCONFIG and see all those extra packets running through your internet conneciton! I'm SERIOUS!

      Oh lord, I cant believe that I woke up this morning going to my router typing 'ifconfig' and seeing that there were a lot more packets transmitted than usual. I'm hopeless. At current count 187293100 packets.

  24. Re:oh my gawd by Edward+Carter · · Score: 1

    Is this the real Bruce, or an impostor?

  25. Re:His Info by QuMa · · Score: 1
    And disallowing
     is a solution? For ascii art you could just as easily use . instead of space. However, for code and stuff not having 
     is a real pain.
  26. Re:His Info by GregWebb · · Score: 1

    Offtopic? OK...

    In case whoever moderated that is reading, that's the NEW contact information, replacing the news that Tux works for Microsoft. I suspect I wasn't the only person to post that news so I don't mind redundant, but offtopic? No way.

    Greg

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  27. Re:It no longer says Mr. Tux the penguin by inio · · Score: 1

    Well, that goes to show that someone at MS reads /. on a regular basis.

  28. Re:666? Not quite by Yeep · · Score: 1

    Well, If you run it on an old Pentium box it will work. Then: it will become 111, which is 666 if you multiply it by 6

  29. Re:satan's minion by Tony-A · · Score: 1

    evil empire
    #1

  30. Re:oh my gawd by Wah · · Score: 1

    looks like a script...

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  31. Re:oh my gawd by Pathetic+Coward · · Score: 1

    Sorry, it has to be Katz.

  32. Re:Fire Support by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

    ESR providing fire support? Well, maybe... but *I* am a U.S. Army trained Fire Support Specialist. Did fire support for a living for 3 years. Count me in! :)

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  33. Hacked... Hmm Mayyyybe? by malice95 · · Score: 1

    Combined with the original story today i would suspect that this site has been quite hacked to death by now. I sure hope whoever hacks it that
    they quietly email all the relavent documents
    to the linux/*bsd groups working on usb support.

    Malice

  34. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by Dr.+Smeegee · · Score: 1

    The OpenBSD Daemon Cop will supply a beat-down corps... armed with blowfish-hide covered batons.

  35. Schmuck? by holloway · · Score: 1
    Ok, in next weeks computer science class you'll learn signed and unsigned numbers. Any binary combination represents that many _states_ which can relate to any number/thing they wants. In this case there's no reason to hold a negative N numbers of bugs so you'd be much smarter to read the binary number off as a positive integer.

    Or unsigned, as #217 replied.

  36. Re:But will federal/state laws accept GPLed guns? by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
    OSS Guns. No one "owns" them...
    Hmmm, brings a whole new meaning to recent discussions on GPL'd "hardware".
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  37. I don't get it by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

    I don't get it. The page looks normal to me. What should I be looking for?

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  38. or by iainh · · Score: 1

    Win63K++

  39. It's changed. Can I see the old version somewhere? by Nailer · · Score: 1

    Fromt he sound of this discussion it sounds if Tux the penguin's contact details were given on Microsoft's details page. I think it's been updated: The only name I get is Mark Williams.

    Could someone please post or mirrror the content of the original?

  40. Re:"evil monopolistic company" by penguinicide · · Score: 1

    Actually, IIRC they rank pages by pages that link to them. Content on the pages linking to the returned pages of the search will also be matched up against the search terms. (I'm betting the link text is given a high priority.)

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  41. "evil monopolistic company" by BlueUnderwear · · Score: 1

    1st hit too. Probably google does these on purpose...

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  42. Re:No doubt... by limpdawg · · Score: 1

    Are you thinking of sid=moderation?

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  43. Time for a new mascot? by antdude · · Score: 1

    Okay, so Tux cheated us loyal freaks. Maybe time for a new mascot? [grin] j/k.

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  44. 666? Not quite by jedrek · · Score: 1

    Well...

    Take 1118. Shift it right one spot in base 10 and we get 111.8. Multiply that by 6(?) and we get... 670.4.

    I don't get it.

    Jay


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    1. Re:666? Not quite by jedrek · · Score: 1

      ARGH! That should be 607.8... Not enough sleep

      Jay

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    2. Re:666? Not quite by MasterMnd · · Score: 1

      well, the code MS used to figure it out had a bug. They must've stored it as a integer rather than a floating-point.. :)

  45. Naw by egbassline · · Score: 1

    Naw, they are probably trying to take a new stance. Look, like the picked on good guy, sell more software. I don't know it might be a gamble but I think they see it as minimal.

    Although if it was someone just having fun......

    ...ouch

  46. Page has been corrected by palme999 · · Score: 1

    No more tux.

  47. Someone did a pitiful job at playing X-Bill... by Maul · · Score: 1
    Obviously, someone failed to smash the little Bill that stole the Tux out of the box in his X-Bill game, and this is what happened. Thanks to that X-Bill player who did not prioritize saving Tux over the other OS Logos, our favorite penguin mascot is now in the clutches of Microsoft!

    Anyway, If Coupland cops out of this OSS guerilla-style rescue of Tux (detailed below, the one where ESR provides cover), count me in. I want a piece of those MS bastards!

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  48. Re:first? by TummyX · · Score: 1

    wanna give examples of these unfounded FUD stories?

    Perhaps Mindcraft? Oh wait, Linus alread acknowledge the problem (about the same time he announced 2.4 would fix all this and would finally be the killer kernel).

  49. Re:Shhh! Quiet!! by TheQ · · Score: 1

    65,000+ huh... Was that just the first beta, how'd they do in the others?
    TheQ

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  50. Re:oh my gawd by god_of_the_machine · · Score: 1

    Check out the user name:
    Re:oh my gawd (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Bruce Parens (bruce@perens.com) on Tuesday


    Parens != Perens. It seems we have a real imposter here... though I have to admit it fooled me for a sec! =)

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  51. Reminds me... by pnevares · · Score: 1

    This sort of reminds me of the time when Tux was held for ransom by someone wanting the Linux q3test release. They even made a little graphic of Tux with a gun to his head, IIRC. Now that was a hoot! =)

    (I would post the link, but the server it was on is gone.)

    Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".

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  52. Re:His Info by Temporal · · Score: 1

    You can thank the dumbasses with the ASCII-porn for that one.
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  53. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    I think Tux will be fine on his own. Take a look at This.

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  54. Re:Tux's contact details: by Nicholas+Vining · · Score: 1

    OK, but has anybody tried dialing the number?

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  55. another bug by nels_tomlinson · · Score: 1

    You don't really thiink that buddy bill would put anything critical on Win-anything, do you? He knows better! He's been selling that crap, not buying it, and he's too smart to believe his own lies^H^H^H^H marketing.
    I'll bet that back when DOS1.0 came out, they were using CPM86 in house. It sucked a good deal less, and I always thought that wordstar ran better on CPM.

  56. Re:Shhh! Quiet!! by greatone · · Score: 1

    From what I read there are 65,000+ known bugs in the release version of Win2K. Wish I still had the article. Damn!!! Casey

  57. Re:He's Free! by rograndom · · Score: 1

    >Looks like someone managed to rescue Tux. And
    >replace him with Mark Williams

    Yeah, what the hell is this? I go to take a look at 7:15EST and the Tux entry is gone already. Someone on the web staff is working late/early.

    andy j.

  58. Re:65,000? no -- 64 K by CatBehemoth · · Score: 1

    Well, but number of items (numbers) in set is
    2**16 == 65536 :}

  59. Whoo-dee-sodding-doo by crivens · · Score: 1

    Man you guys are getting desparate for news items to post these days. What? That was humour? Really?

  60. I always thought they claimed NT was supeiror.... by Mr.roboto · · Score: 1

    In their Liunx "facts" page, they say that NT is superior in running servers. I wonder why they are runing Linux if it an infeiror product as they claim. They created a big pile of flaimbate here, have massive amounts of fun with it. by the way, M$ has a message for you:Give us the source or the bird gets it!

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  61. Tux at M.S.... by roomfull+of+blues · · Score: 1

    He is a spy planting, um, shall we say, usefull devices at Microsoft H.Q. There is now a bear trap hidden under Bills desk. :)
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  62. His Info by CFN · · Score: 1

    Company Name Microsoft Corporation Name Mr. Tux The penguin Title Linux Mascot Email tux@linux.org Phone # 555.1212 Fax # 555.1212 Those bastards! Thats it, the next kernel should be named Bill_Gates!!!!!!

    1. Re:His Info by CFN · · Score: 1

      I meant /. does not support "pre" tags.

      I'm really batting 1000 today.

    2. Re:His Info by DaveV · · Score: 1

      Well, if you name the next kernel Bill_Gates, then it has to be buggy beyond belief.

    3. Re:His Info by CFN · · Score: 3

      Company Name Microsoft Corporation
      Name Mr. Tux The penguin
      Title Linux Mascot
      Email tux@linux.org
      Phone # 555.1212
      Fax # 555.1212


      Those bastards! Thats it, the next kernel should be named Bill_Gates!!!!!!

      Sorry about the repetition. I just learned the hard way that /. does not support tags.

  63. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by .c · · Score: 1
    I think Tux will be fine on his own. Take a look at This.

    Did you notice the following?

    'All artwork and designs for the WPILA T-shirt, with the exception of the Linux "Tux" mascot graphic, were designed by WPILA member George Caswell and are copyright 1999 WPI Linux Association.'

    How wrong is that?

    .c

  64. Mark Williams? by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1
    Mark Williams?

    I remember in the early 1990's (unfortunately before hearing of Linux) buying a copy of Coherent (a UNIX-like OS with GNU tools for x86 procesors) b/c I wanted *nix at home for my spanking new CompuAdd 386-40...

    Some time after installing the thing, I had reason to call Coherent's tech support and got a message they were out of business because of a "competing product" distrubuted for free...*sigh*

    So. Mark has resurfaced at MSFT? No surprise...

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  65. Re:It comes with the job. by gutman · · Score: 1

    So it was him who leaked the Halloween document to RMS?

  66. Re:Mail? But Tux doesn't power their BSOD service by GenCuster · · Score: 1

    No! You are forgeting the the BSOD sceensaver. The Redmond folks will be scared have to death when they watch the errors pile up and the box still work. i can't fix it boss it is still working. Can you imagine what will happen when all those techies don't have anything to do? :)

    Nate Custer

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  67. Moderate this up by weisserw · · Score: 1

    This is the best Slashdot comment I've read in a long, long time.

    -W.W.

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  68. Re:Tux's contact details: by Nastard · · Score: 1

    Phone#: 555.1212

    Just FYI: ###-555-1212 is directory assistance.

  69. Re:oh my gawd by Nastard · · Score: 1

    Followup:

    I just signed for a package. It contains Tux's left foot. *sob* Install win2k! It's the only way to save him!

  70. Even better by Believe · · Score: 1

    Try "More evil than satan", also on google

  71. Sun Slam by ryanhos · · Score: 1

    There's no way the real Tux works for MS because he never would have let this terrible slam against Sun get out!

    It's possible that the MS Tux is just the dust puppy working undercover! He couldn't stop the story because he didn't want to blow his cover! He would have had complete infiltration if it hadn't been for those pesky kids, and their dog! Err, I mean all you slashdotters.

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  72. FYI: Microsoft does run linux... by symetrix · · Score: 1

    It was pointed out to me a while back by a microserf friend that MS does it fact run linux. egg.microsoft.com WAS one such box, but it looks to have been moved to win2k in the past few weeks.

    -Mike

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  73. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by Mr.Phil · · Score: 1

    - John Romero will provide backup as long as he can find that goddamn katana-sword-thing that he lost in his hair 3 years ago.

    I almost fell out of my chair reading this.

  74. CHanging of Passwords by ejbst25 · · Score: 1

    Did Anyone notice the not on the main USB page saying this...

    USB-IF Members Only Area

    Dear USB-IF Members,

    Due to security reasons, all USB-IF member passwords have been changed on Tuesday, 29th February 2000. Member representatives have been emailed new passwords. If you have not received your new passwords yet, please contact your company's USB IF Representative. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused everyone. We are working on resolving the issues around this.

    USB-IF Administration

  75. Its more sinister than that! by Evil+Spammer · · Score: 1
    Well...

    The last part of the "sid" for this article, 2118205, which is apparently a random number, but which could be set by Rob or another slashdot admin, has an interesting property. Derive your own conclusions!!

    The prime factorization of 2118205 is 5 * 67 * 6323. (5 * 67 + 6323) / 10 rounded to the nearest integer is... !!

  76. Re:It no longer says Mr. Tux the penguin by RottenDeadite · · Score: 1

    Well, of course. One has to keep an eye on the competition. I wouldn't be suprised if MS had a squadron of web surfers to keep an eye on rival industry sites like Slashdot and Freshmeat. That is, I'm paranoid enough to not be suprised. Can you imagine a group of guys sitting around monitors all day One of them shouts "We've got a leak! Someone posted to /. saying that we run Linux boxes!" And then he punches a button, followed by swirling alarm lights and bells...

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  77. Re:satan's minion by Moneo · · Score: 1

    Google is running Linux...a humorous sys-admin?

  78. Re:I've got a slack-7.0 box at Microsoft... by Myke242 · · Score: 1

    ive got some very definative veiws on M$ and its products.

    its very simple. computing is no longer just for the geek inclind. all of win products have endevored to make the computing experiance as easy for the end user. personally i have several win machines with avariety of M$ products installed (still have a running 286 buffed up to take Win3.*) i keep these machines up and running to stay informed and praticed in what i do.

    unix/linux is a wonderful OS i think its great. i agree that OS vs OS it comes out on top, but when im on call and something happens all the linux knowledge in the world will not let me figure out WTF windows is up to with the agrivated user.

    i was never happier when the imac came out. its cute, its out of the box good to go and the average user has no idea whats going on inside. (too bad there isn't really a pc product so marketed (as far as i know))

    so im happy with cruddy M$ products they keep the majority of us employed, provide us with a scapegoat and humor. really is MS really that bad?

    because all bill is trying to do is provide a quality product that makes the customer happy and helps the computer perform the users requests. is this a bad thing? personally i dont think that the antitrust lawsuit was justified. just because MicroSoft makes a quallity product that just happens to be on 75+% of all systems doent mean MS is trying to .............

    Gahhhhh!!!!!!

    someone might want to check the coding on the new WIN2000 screen savers they make your head spin.

    KA-chunk im cocked, locked and ready to rock for the resque! all i need is a 4" target image and POW! the problem is solved.

    "this is my computer, there are many like it but this one is mine..." -AYP?

  79. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by Sri+Lumpa · · Score: 1
    Additionally, Tove will supply hand to hand training for the troops, and lead them into the building....

    Just for those that are too newbies to the Linux community to understand, he is talking about Tove Torvalds, wife of Linus and ex Finnish karate champion.

    But what is the part of the BSD daemon? Does he open a gate between MS headquarters and hell? Well, I guess he doesn't need to, it's already done ;)

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  80. Re:How about a new name by fedos · · Score: 1

    Of course, we all know that noone will need more Win640K.

  81. oops by fedos · · Score: 1

    er.. should be "more THAN Win640K."

  82. funny by _sKar · · Score: 1

    seems like somebody at microsoft is funny after all. ;)

  83. Re:I'm forming a commando squad. Who will join me? by SuperCujo · · Score: 1
    The whole story is based on a joke, so more jokes (and that was easy a 5, funny) are quite welcome and entertaining.

    Just think, if Microsoft abducted you, would the OSS guns come out for your rescue? No...

    If there was real Tux, I do believe a team of /. crack geek commandos would rescue him.

    I can see a movie based on the rescue already. 3 geek commandos, played by:
    • Linus, as himself
    • The guy who played Doogie Howser
    • The comic store guy from the Simpsons to fill the Jon Katz role

    Please excuse my rantings :)
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    --- Can i borrow your Clue-Stick(tm)? I need to go beat a few people with it...
  84. Re:Tux's contact details: by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

    Phone#: 555.1212 Just FYI: ###-555-1212 is directory assistance. -----------> Well, it's for Microsoft. If you're running Active Directory, you're gonna NEED assistance. Next question....

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    If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
  85. Re:65,000? no -- 64 K by Ig0r · · Score: 1

    The largest number you can have is 65535, if you count 0 in that set :)

    1111111111111111 == 65565

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  86. I wonder... by _xeno_ · · Score: 1
    I can't tell if whoever listed Mr. Tux the Penguin as the Microsoft contacts did it as anti-Microsoft or anti-Linux...

    Funny either way though.

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    You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
  87. IT'S GONE by herb__kornfeld · · Score: 1

    it someone saved please post a link..if you saw it but didn't save it, please look in your cache..it might be there...do this : (all on one line!) find ~/.netscape/cache -not -type d -exec grep --with-filename [Tt]ux '{}' ';' post this as informative...because it's a good tip about how to find stuff :)

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  88. Re:broken link by CarbonCopy · · Score: 1
    The page is back up now...
    Try it again...


    (Comment to Self: Damn.. idiots are funny)

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    "I do not go believe comes out therefrom that I will concentrate on always more special zones."
    --Linus To
  89. Re:first? by z___987 · · Score: 1

    A few major media outlets lately have been running stories about the weaknesses of Linux. These stories tend to be completely incorrect and often have no basis in fact whatsoever. They more convincingly fit into a class of communication known as FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) often used to damage what Microsoft likes to call mindshare.

  90. Re:65,000? no -- 64 K by Polsar · · Score: 1

    Schmuck, 1111111111111111 /= 65565 is a negative number...

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    "Gravity cannot be held accountable for people falling in love." -Einstein
  91. Re:Shhh! Quiet!! by RampageX · · Score: 1

    I have the 65K bugs article (the one posted on Yahoo!). E-mail me if you want a copy.

    Christopher Dale Campbell
    DaleCampbell@revolutionist.com

  92. Re:oh my gawd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Don't install win2k! Even if Tux dies, it's better to do as he would have wanted.

  93. satan's minion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Go to Google.
    Search for 666.

    Can sombody explain this?

    1. Re:satan's minion by Fishstick · · Score: 2

      Last time this surfaced on ./ the explanation was that Google somehow uses context from other pages that are linked to the result page. I'm not sure I understand how this works, but the expanation was that somehow there are lots of pages out there with 'evil' and 'satan' in the same part of the page with the hyperlink to www.microsoft.com

      --

      There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

  94. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by acb · · Score: 2

    Once at the security office, Young and Coupland will release Jamie Zawinski, who will entice the guards to leave by offering them free passes to his nightclub (years of working at MS will ensure that they look angstful enough to get in).

    The Dimension X people will probably be in the right uniform already. (Before MS bought them out to prevent them from enhancing Java too much, dnx.com was the alpha clique of alt.gothic.)

  95. Re:A hack? (or crack?) by adraken · · Score: 2

    egg.microsoft.com used to report that it was running Apache/Linux (by Netcraft). It was used to host "internal projects and specifications". All the information on it was unprotected, but it was next to worthless things. Now on port 80, it just redirects you to www.microsoft.com and returns an Unknown/Unknown reply.

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    -- adraken
  96. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by Chokai · · Score: 2

    The central MS Security office is in building 8 in the south east corner. I grew up 2 miles from MS, got in trouble a few times for using their athletic fields after we ripped up the local public ones playing pickup footbal so badly you couldn't stand on them. Actually their security guys were pretty nice to us most of the time. :-)

  97. Re:Tags by QuMa · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure that's really what's needed, In my html guide it says TT just does monospaced, it doesn't preserve spacing.

  98. Re:I'll supply the weapons training... by warpeightbot · · Score: 2
    Hot damn. A raid on the Evil Empire. I knew I left Dixie and came all the way out here for more than just the greenbacks.... sign me up for sniper duty!

    (you know, the truly scary part of this is that, if we really, really wanted to, we could organize and execute one of these little raids so fast Bill Gates' head would swim... vive l'Internet, ne-c'est-pas?)

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    Tar Heels don't run, Tennesseeans always Volunteer, and every Georgia boy knows his shotgun. Woe be to he who crosses the man who's all three. -- me
    "And Texas gratefully remembers them all." -- Dillon Pyron, on t.p.guns

  99. Re:He's Free! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

    > hm. I wonder if MS has a 24/7 Slashdot monitor?

    Not unless they're secretly running some systems with 24/7 stability.

    (Sorry -- the devil made me say it!)

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    Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
  100. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by Dacta · · Score: 2

    Bring along Signal 11 and a bunh of trolls as our rapid response team, so at the slightest sign of some motion, Signal 11 will write a long essay about how he agrees with whatever is being said, while the Trolls turn everything to stone.

    Maybe we could offer a naked, stone Natalie Portman in exchange...

    I can't believe I wrote that.. I've never mentioned NP in a message before! Ahhh... I feel the pull of the dark side!

  101. Re:No! It's not a joke. by dkh2 · · Score: 2

    Apparantly the joke's over. As of 7:48 am Wednesday 2000-03-01 the only contact information for Microsoft is Mark Williams.

    --
    My office has been taken over by iPod people.
  102. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by Yumpee · · Score: 2

    >When Tux is located, he will be hustled into the
    >parking lot where John Carmack will be waiting to
    >speed away to safety at speeds well in excess of
    >140 mph.

    Dude, you forget:
    - Carmack will come in a special Year-2000
    limited-edition Ferrari Quakemobile

    - Ultra-secret virtual reality technology
    and some bad Hollywood movie producers will
    be used to bring to life the Doom Marine,
    the Quake guy, a few cyberdemons and imps
    and maybe Sarge and Slash for some Q3A
    action. And of course, they will run in
    Nightmare mode with cheats disabled.

    - Epic have promised to provide some Unreal
    engine leg-ups so that we can watch the
    whole thing in 32-bit color, 4096x3276@100fps

    - John Romero will provide backup as long as he
    can find that goddamn katana-sword-thing that
    he lost in his hair 3 years ago.

    - We are trying to contact friends at 3D Realms
    to ask our friend Duke to help in the
    ass-kicking ceremonies at Redmond. On a
    related note, Bruce Campbell will take some
    time out of his busy schedule to call up
    BillG from the M$ front gate and ask him
    to "come get some."

    As much as I could manage ... :)

    Y.

  103. Re:I've got a slack-7.0 box at Microsoft... by overshoot · · Score: 2
    An AC deep in bowels of the Beast wrote:

    And if you ever think for a minute that they aren't watching you, all you have to do is open NetMon from the SMS2 distrobution, and normally you'll at least get some email wanting to know WHY you've got a packet capture utility on corporate LAN. They are fairly protective of their assets. :)

    How VERY interesting. Seems they have less confidence in their own network security than they want the rest of us to have.

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    Lacking <sarcasm> tags, /. substitutes moderation as "Troll."
  104. Re:I'll supply the weapons training... by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2

    It's the Open Source Militia! Cool, where do I sign up?

    "A well debugged code base, being necessary to the security of a free operating system, the right of the people to use and modify source code, shall not be infringed."

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    Tom Swiss | the infamous tms | my blog
    You cannot wash away blood with blood
  105. Re:I've got a slack-7.0 box at Microsoft... by BWindle · · Score: 2

    OK, but how often are you tempted to test out the latest anti-Windoze exploit on every single Micro$oft box on your LAN? :-) (twinge.c comes to mind...)

  106. We have to... by cdlu · · Score: 2

    "AC, linux is more important then you or me, or even Tux. There is only one thing we can do. We have to pull the plug."

  107. How about a new name by iainh · · Score: 2

    Win63K

  108. Re:Rescue Planning Already in Progress by wowbagger · · Score: 2

    Additionally, Tove will supply hand to hand training for the troops, and lead them into the building....

  109. Tux's contact details: by SuperG · · Score: 2

    From the links on the page:

    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
    Name: Mr. Tux The penguin
    Title: Linux Mascot
    Email: tux@linux.org
    Phone#: 555.1212
    Fax#: 555.1212

    Cheers,
    SuperG

  110. It has been 'corrected'. by Dman33 · · Score: 2

    Just so everyone like myself that said "Hey, what is with this Mark Williams guy, and what does /. mean about Tux???" knows, the page has been corrected.

    I am sure news like this spread real fast and some M$ people were e-mailing the admin at usb.org...

    Well, at least someone posted a screenshot here.

  111. 65,000? no -- 64 K by CatBehemoth · · Score: 2

    I think number 65,000 originates from ignorant reporters -- the actual number is 65,536 --remember old good 8086? So it proves that M$ lies about they're using all HW resources as protected mode, 3DNow, MMX, etc., as we can see they even can't break real mode 64K bound!

    -- beginner thinks 1 Kb == 1000 bytes, master knows 1 Km == 1024 m.

  112. Damn...that was fixed pretty damned quick by fluxrad · · Score: 2

    Unless the new contact has some arcane connection to tux the penguin...the link has been fixed.


    -FluX
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    "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -David Hume
  113. Yes Virginia, Linux does exist at Microsoft by Raunchola · · Score: 2

    "Would any Microsoft employees care to disclose the whereabouts of a certain "Mr. Tux the penguin," and perhaps say which freezers he favors while in Redmond?"

    Damn, if I was Tux, I'd favor 'em all. Anyone who's been to the campus knows that Microsoft has fridges and freezers stocked with sweet sweet sweet (end Simpsons allusion here) free drinks and food! Who said Microsoft was all that bad? :)

    "Better yet, would any Microsoft employees like to comment on how many internal-to-Microsoft servers Mr. Tux currently powers?"

    Well, I'm no microserf, but a relative is...and according to him, Microsoft does have some internal R&D Apache-running Linux boxes. Even though this isn't internal, Hotmail is being powered by a Unix box as well.

    Now that's surprising!

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    The real Raunchola isn't cool enough to have any imposters
  114. The new Win2K box art: by shanek · · Score: 2

    Tux with a gun to his head, and written underneath it: "BUY THIS OS OR WE SHOOT THE PENGUIN!!!!!!!" M$'s getting desperate...

  115. I've been inside by 400tek · · Score: 2

    I was oh what's the word...contracting at MS. I do AS/400 for that big three lettered company...Italian Buisness Men....There is a very large room at redmond that is full of Linux and Apple computers for the web site. Even the guys that work in the large room will not talk about the server to anyone. But just by looking at the monitors it is obvoius that they were NOT WindowsNT or simmilar OS's. The apple servers were that i biggest joke thought. At the time they were still not liking Apple very much...

  116. I'll supply the weapons training... by ESR · · Score: 3

    ...if there aren't enough Geeks With Guns alumni
    already volunteering, that is :-)

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    >>esr>>
  117. Its more sinister than it appears... by PureFiction · · Score: 3

    Did anyone see their vendor ID #?

    Its 1118. As is readily apparent to anyone well versed in the satanic rituals, Shifted right by one in base 10, and then multiplied by 6 gives us.. *gasp* 666!

    Therfore, it is obvious that Microsoft is planning a cultish execution for our flightless mascot. Perhaps an infiltration is in order...

  118. Super OT: Interesting????????? by cancrman · · Score: 3

    Who the fsck moderated this as interesting??

    Funny. Yes
    Insiteful. Maybe (leaning toward yes)
    underated. no not really
    interesting. WTF??

    "Hmmmm. Well tux how did you feel being trapped by the microsoft consort."

    "Well Biff it was a pretty harrowing experience. honestly I've got to tell you at times it was a very insightful experence. I mean these microsoft guys can do the ctrl-alt-del vulcan nerve pince with only one finger, ALL AT THE SAME TIME! Guess they have practice, if you know what I mean (Nudge, Nudge). I mean these microsoft guys guys are a hoot, you should see Balmer's Gates impression.....

    Oh I was trying to work overrated and interesting in there but you know what? 10 budweisers take there toll on the moter reflexes after a while. And its really not all that funny anyways.

    "That's all the recycling daddy can do for one night dear...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

    Werd

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    The sole purpose of the Internet is to get porn and bomb making plans into the hands of children.
  119. Love it or LEAVE it by Gen-GNU · · Score: 3

    OK...this is off topic, I know. Moderate it down if you want to. Probably a good idea anyway... Maybe it's cause it's late and I'm still at work, or maybe it was just one too many of these 'slashdot isn't posting what I consider news for nerds' posts, but either way.. here goes.


    Jon,
    Your ceaseless barrage of non "news for nerds" and non "stuff that matters" articles are driving me up the wall!@#!
    Jon Katz must go!


    Firstly, not that it really matters, but Jon Kats didn't post this article. If you want to yell at someone, at least pick the right person.

    Secondly, (and more importantly), no-one is making you read /. If you don't like the articles, don't visit the page! What stupid sick pleasure do you get out of writing 'this posting sucks'? You not only took the time to read the story, but more time to write your useless comments on a subject that you supposedly don't care about. Here's a thought...If you don't like the stories, don't come back. Or come back less often. If the people in charge of slashdot see the number of hits dropping, they will get the idea that a number of people don't like what they have been posting lately.
    Alternatively, you could form a well crafted letter stating why you feel that a certain story or type of story does not belong on slashdot. Send that letter as an email to Mr Kats, or whoever you feel is appropriate, and try to effect real change.

    Simply posting a flame message saying Jon Kats must go! is about as intellegent as selling winblows at a Linux conference, and is likely to be about as well recieved.

  120. A hack? (or crack?) by thehermit · · Score: 3

    Looks like someone cracked into USB.org's member area and had some fun. USB's home page indicates that they're changing all members passwords as of today for "security reasons".

    Still, it would be nice to think at least one server in the microsoft.com domain is running a Linux kernel and Apache. You can just close your eyes and imagine the MS techies standing around the screen looking for NT server manager.....

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    thehermit
  121. Mark Williams is Tux??????? by morkeld · · Score: 3
    Someone changed the site recently... guess they noticed the /. effect

    Contact Information - Press Contact
    Company Name Microsoft Corporation
    Name Mark Williams
    Title
    Email markwi@microsoft.com
    Phone # 425-936-1964
    Fax # 425-936-7329

  122. Re:Shhh! Quiet!! by nicky+p · · Score: 3

    i personally don't think they needed the help...

  123. It comes with the job. by SkulkCU · · Score: 3

    I suppose by now it is now well known that Tux was actually sent in, and has been working as a spy. It is quite unfortunate (to say the least) that he was captured, but then again, I can't say I'm surprised it happened.

    Perhaps the policy of GPL-ing top-secret documents and spy communiqués should be reviewed and revised.

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    .sig last updated Jan. 14, 2000
  124. IT'S GONE (better formatting) by herb__kornfeld · · Score: 3
    IT'S GONE (Score:1) If someone saved it please post a link..if you saw it but didn't save it, please look in your cache..it might be there...do this : (all on one line!)

    find ~/.netscape/cache -not -type d -exec grep --with-filename [Tt]ux '{}' ';'

    Post this as informative...because it's a good tip about how to find stuff :) [ Reply to This | Parent ]
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  125. mmm, lazy security by hatless · · Score: 4

    www.usb.org is a BSD box (BSDI/OS, IIRC). Given the syntax of the URLs for drilling down to the contact records, it looks like the info might be in some sort of X.500-style directory, probably LDAP, or maybe NDS or Active Directory. Possibly with a default or blank Root DN password, or some other such dopey move.

    If I didn't have to get some sleep, I'd check to see if I could get to it on the default LDAP port, seeing as telnet is open on the box.

    The sysadmin there needs to be bonked on the head with a stick.

  126. oh my gawd by Nastard · · Score: 4

    I just recieved a ransom note. It reads:

    "pleeze put m1cr0s0ft wind0ze 2000 on all y0r bawks3z 0r eye will k1ll tha p3nquin -mr gat3s-"

    I think it's Bill, but given the spelling and grammar, it may be our own CmdrTaco

  127. I've got a slack-7.0 box at Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    For obvious reasons, I'm posting this as AC... :)

    I have to admit that the evil empire helps pay my rent on the 1st and the 15th of every month, but as I haven't seen anyone else step up and admit it, I will admit that I have a Slackware 7.0 box running on MS's network. The smb packages are your friend for connecting to domains and actually being able to get to all those nifty shares. :) People actually stop by my cube to talk Tux every now and then. MS isn't so anti-penguin as everyone leads everyone else to believe.

    MS even has a "Linux User Discussion" public folder in Outlook where the occassional question about "how do I get my box on the LAN, etc." gets fielded by several of us. If any other MS employees are running a box, we'd sure love to hear from you! :)

  128. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    Remember the last story about the USB Forum? The one where people figured out various username/password combinations that had not been changed from the defaults...

  129. SCREENSHOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5
    I didn't think to mirror the content, but I did capture my Netscape window while viewing the unmodified Microsoft vendor page.

    http://pangaea.dhs.org/tux.gif

    You can also get the TIFF file if you really want to see it in 24 bpp color.

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    chahast at pangaea dot dhs dot org

  130. Rescue Planning Already in Progress by Skyshadow · · Score: 5
    Fear not, citizen. The all-stars of the OSS movement are already planning how to save Tux from the clutches of Microsoft.

    Here's Plan 0.8:

    Jon Katz will disable the guards at the perimeter of the Microsoft compound, putting them to sleep with a lengthy rant about how the internet will end tooth decay. Bob Young and Michael Coupland will steal past the security cameras in the main lobby, which will be looking for long-haired, hippie-looking OSS hacker types rather than guys in suits. Once Young and Coupland have breached building security, they will ssh out and irc with Eric Raymond, who will be providing fire support from a hill overlooking the MS campus. ESR will use his first-hand knowledge of the buildings (gained in his visit last year) to guide Young and Coupland to the central security office. Once at the security office, Young and Coupland will release Jamie Zawinski, who will entice the guards to leave by offering them free passes to his nightclub (years of working at MS will ensure that they look angstful enough to get in). The three will then attempt to do something useful on the W2k-based security system, causing it to come to a screaming halt. When the building is secured, Linus Torvolds will be brought in to locate Tux (after all, Linus has the uncanny ability to always move in the right direction). While Linus and his henchman search for Tux, Richard Stallman will move into position to cover the escape with an rant which will cause money-grubbing shrink-wrap licensing capitalists to burst into flames. When Tux is located, he will be hustled into the parking lot where John Carmack will be waiting to speed away to safety at speeds well in excess of 140 mph. When the last OSS Team member has evacuated the building, the Slashdot contributors will be brought in to flame the building to cinders, finishing it off with a corosive layer of hot grits. The confusion this will cause, combined with Carmack's rather insane mode of driving, will hopefully buy enough time to secure Tux at an undisclosed (but happily fridged an herring-filled) base of operations.
    Possible bugs with this plan include both the possibility that Coupland isn't actually serious about the OSS movement and will bail at the first sign of trouble and the chance that JWZ will bail before the operation is concluded. Patches to these problems are welcome.

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  131. I'm forming a commando squad. Who will join me? by root · · Score: 5
    Ok men, here's the deal. The FreeBSD guys will create a diversion by staging a protest near the main gate demanding a port of MS Office to their platform. Second, Slashdot's main page will have all links pointing to random locations within *.microsoft.com. The masive /. effect will keep the MS IT goons off balance, and distract corporate management. Third, every Best Buy store nationwide will be simultaneously littered with flyers caiming "Free copies of Windows 2000 to the first 100,000 callers to 1-800-MICROSOFT". This will saturate all communications lines into the complex.

    Now while MS is busy, the Linux team will enter the compound, crash the WinCE running microsoft's security alarms and door locks by setting the date back to 12-31-99 and letting the clock roll over again, or by installing Explorer 5.0 or better yet, AOL Titanium. We will then move to the freezer section where the penguin is being held, free him, and get out before the crashed windows machines catch fire and fill the building with smoke. Stallman, (yes sir!) if there's time, you will go to the legal dept's office and replace the MS EULA with a copy of the GPL. And Young (yes sir!) you swap out the Win2K master CD on the assembly line with a Red Hat 6.3 distro cd.

    Ok, break!

  132. Mail? But Tux doesn't power their BSOD service by Morgaine · · Score: 5

    Well, some mail does actually make it out of Redmond, so clearly not all their servers run NT.

    But alas the Penguin just can't deliver the goods when it comes to really demanding services like BSOD. And, contrary to the usual bad press about Windows availability, the NT-based BSOD service boasts a 99.9% availability record over 5 years, totally unparalleled in the industry. Try beating that, Tux!!

    ;-)

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    "The question of whether machines can think is no more interesting than [] whether submarines can swim" - Dijkstra
  133. He's Free! by dysprosium · · Score: 5

    Looks like someone managed to rescue Tux. And replace him with Mark Williams.

  134. The light begins to dawn... by zeke · · Score: 5

    So Gates has been misquoted all these years.

    "64K (bugs) should be enough for anybody."

    - B. Gates

    zeke

  135. Shhh! Quiet!! by Harvey · · Score: 5

    Who do you think was responsible for the 65,000+ bugs in Win2K, fools??? And now you've blown his cover!!!

    Harvey