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mojo-raisin writes: "After more than a year of development, the first release of OMS has been made on www.linuxvideo.org. For those of you running Debian see this message for an easy installation to your system." Looks like you need a cutting-edge libc6, among other things.
I have a DVD in my server box, a little Pentium 200 - the DVD is there because there's no room in my workstation for another drive.
Does the "Lan" part of "VideoLan" allow me to run the decoder on my workstation, while the DVD is in a drive on my server?
AFAIK you need direct access to the device to negotiate keys - i.e. you can't decrypt an NFS mounted DVD - can you?
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Well, at least with Xine it's not possible due to the legal reasons (the authors want to keep xine legal as possible - and I can understand them). Thats why you don't see IFO parsing there also.
Hetz (Heunique)
I use xine since the early 0.3.x releases and it works really well! I can get a perfect fullscreen playback at 1280x960 (thanks xv!) with a NVidia GeForce 2 MX on a P3 550. The latest version now supports subtitles and changing audio tracks on the fly (earlier versions started supporting IFO parsing, very useful too)... everything I need!
There's even an "unofficial" input plugin to play encrypted DVDs which works perfectly.
I really love this piece of software, it's wonderful
BTW, RedHat 7 users can get a clean custom packaged version from http://redhat.aldil.org/ and play all their DVDs in no time!
-- Life wasn't meant to be easy...
If you're anal about picture, as it sounds, get a matrox card. I can barely tell the difference, but friends of mine really do. Especially in very high resolutions. (I run my Viewsonic GS815 21" in 1920x1440 from my ASUS GeForce DDR) Matrox might not have the framerate in 3D apps, but in 2D they're the best consumer-level card.
And the only reason the G4 is faster decoding is that the ATI card has DVD decoding hardware. And the Athlon is borderline for software decoding. It'll work 98%, but you'll get skips in complex scenes. Both my p3-800 (600 OCed) and my GF's Thunderbird 900 do fine, but if I clock the 800 to 600 or lower (I was testing some software I wrote and forgot to return it) the jerkiness is terrible.
Possession of "contravention devices" such as DeCSS is a felony in the U.S., under the DMCA.
But let the cops come to take me away for playing a DVD I purchased on a DVD-ROM drive that I purchased. Let the judge throw me in jail with a straight face.
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I can't decide which I like best -- the D's or
the V between them.
The disc doesn't actually detect, but it offers region free content, and zone X content, if the drive chooses the region free content it gets a black screen. Sort of a primative denial of service attack.
I'd personally love to sue the studios over this, if you buy a disk and find out it won't play because they crippled it. Just find an unmodded player that is hit by that bug, buy it, and sue the studios for false advertising. "They said it was a movie, it's a DVD of a black screen, and they did it intentionally!"
For gaming, I thought 30 was the absolute minimum for smooth believable motion.
People are begging for 200fps average frame rate so that it never gets below 60.
On film, however, 24/25 fps is the standard because that's what is available for projection and cameras. It's very easy to see the limitation on motion scenes.
In a way, yes: decryption, demuxing, audio decoding, subitiling is done by software. Some high-level MPEG video stuff is done by the software but the bulk of the effort (that is, motion compensation, inverse DCT and scaling/smoothing) is done by the video card (so playing a DVD at 1600x1200 is just as fast as 800x600). This is why this "software decoder" only works with Rage 128/Radeon (and now, GeForce2 MX). Actually it is about the same thing as what you get bundled with said cards in their retail PC version.
BTW, the hardware support in ATI chips is first-rate, quality-wise. The image is better than most hardware decoders (we checked a Hollywood-whatever and an ATI card on the same PC. The ATI's image is much cleaner)
-- Colin
VideoLan uses SDL and plays very smoothly on my 500Mhz laptop, can play directly from encrypted DVDs, and it doesn't require jumping through a lot of hoops to get compiled/running. It's usable now, releases come in reasonable timeframes, and it keeps getting better, I'll stick with it.
If you try an ATI Rage 128 with ATI's DVD player you'll get the same results as the G4 with the ATI card.
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I was pretty disappointed with LinuxVideo (LiVid) as I only got 6 fps TOPS on a Duron 700, however, a discrete link in a recent Slashdot story linked to VideoLan.org, and THEY have a client that works and works SPLENDIDLY. I got FULL framerate and EXCELLENT AUDIO as well. I've never turned back!
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Next time read the fine print. To view Matrix, buy a Matrix card. Damn.
I don't mean to try and take away from the LiViD team. They were the first to start working on a DVD player for linux, and there work has provided the basis but there are several other DVD players for linux. But there are other players which many have reported to be better than oms in the areas of configuration, performance and audio sync. One of these is call VideoLAN which several others have mentioned. It now has css support much like OMS and the performance is suppose to be quite good on lower end system. VideoLAN is not quite as old as OMS but the source was only made available more recently hence less exposure. I believe most of the code in VideoLAN was developed independently of LiViD code except css of course. There is another which has called Xine which is the newest one but reported to be one of the best. I believe this one used the LiVid video and sound system but has tweaked synchronization and performance as well as adding some other feature. This one is also designed to be compatible across several free unix type platforms including *BSD. Note that the standard version of Xine does not come with css support but it can be added with a plugin from here as well as a version with the plugin already built in here. Again what LiViD has done is great but competition as always is good. The only thing I would like to see is some unified plugin standard for these players so that any css plugin could work with any of the DVD players. That way if new DVD's come out that break the current CSS updates could occur much easier for all the projects.
Too bad the "official" Linux DVD player made their official release years after the rest of us were already getting the job done on the unofficial players. Too bad none of the assembly language code compiles on IA64.
How will this Linux player fare?
Wasn't that the whole point of DVD in the first place- a rock solid standard?
my brain hurts.
Of course, since the NS2K costs a couple hundred dollars, it's not exactly an optimal solution for most people . . .
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d00d! u must use the l33t w4r3zing tool "dd", like this: "dd if=/dev/dvd of=thematrix.dvd. It is so il33gal! We must ban "dd" now!!!!1 h0llyw00d needs rights!!!!1
Does my bum look big in this?
Maybe you should start by moving to XFree 4? recompile your SDL (if your player runs with the SDL option) with Xv support? check if you have Xv support? (by typing: xvinfo)?
Hetz (Heunique)
You are the reason why our great nation is facing difficult economic times right now. The way you flout the DVD Consortium and the Hollywood studios angers me to no end, and you are an embarassment to the millions of honest, hardworking American citizens who view DVDs using LEGAL hardware or software.
And it only took you guys about four or five years after DVDs first came out.
Why go to these lengths simply to break the law?
I will never understand you people.
Thank you, and God bless America.
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President, United States of America
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George W. Bush
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Does anyone have a good recommendation for a good DVD player? Creative seems fairly popular, but I'm curious as to what the alterantives are
I've owned several, and the ones I have been most happy with are Pioneer's models and the Ricoh CDRW/DVD combo drives.
Go here to make sure that a modified version of the firmware for you drive is availble so you can easily play discs from more than one region. The Ricoh drives are especially nice because they are not region free, but region switchable, with the propper firmware modification. Region switchable is preferred to region free because some recent discs can detect if your DVD drive is region free and will refuse to play if it is. Region switchable drives avoid that problem. There are other drives that are region switchable, the Ricoh ones just happen to be the ones I am familiar with.
Now imagine that the World Company that have almost 80% of the video publishing companies as well as several DVD Player manufacturer wants to make it's main competitor (ACME DVD, a DVD player manufacturer) bites the dust. In this case the World Company only have to remove the ACME DVD CSS key from their DVD disc, so that WC DVD cannot be played on ACME DVD.
Don't you find this unfair ?
On the other side, CSS does not prevent raw copy of DVD, hence it does not offer a good copy protection scheme.
And I don't find decrypting a DVD to play it when we have purchased it legally is violating author's right. After all buying the DVD gives us the right to watch it as much as we want, when we want, where we want (unless it is public broadcasting or other condition prohibited by law).
Hub
Right now, when you buy a DVD you own it. But I am quickly seeing things shape up where, because it is digital content, the MPAA are going to say that by buying the DVD you have just purchased a license to view it and that you must abide by some type of EULA type contract (in which I am certain they will say playing on an 'unauthorized' player will be illegal and a breach of contract). Whether they can make that stick or not is an interesting debate, and one we won't see settled until the first case of DVD EULA contract breach goes through the courts.
Just thought I'd point that out. I agree with your sentiments, and that we should own things that we have purchased, but I'm sure the movie company would disagree with you.
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The American Revolution was illegal to. What the fuck is your point? In order to change things, you need to stand up to what's accepted in society. I find the existing encryption licensing scheme to be immoral, and therefore, I am going to stand up against it.
In fact, copyright law's basis is that it should protect the creators of a works rights only to the extent that it encourages the creation and dissemination of works to the public. In this case the movie industry is trying to restrict even paying customers from fair use of the works they've bought, and that violates the very principles copyright law is built on.
If breaking CSS for fair use purposes violates any laws, it's the laws that shouldn't be as they are, and I'd break them whenever I please.
Luckily I don't live in a country that have sillyness like the DMCA (not that the UK doesn't have more than enough other crappy legislation to make up for it)
First of all, I find it rather disturbing how some people seem to be really ignorant.
We (the people) are allowed to 'view' our purchased DVDs based the the fair use law! No ands, ifs, or buts.
Now to quote you, "No it's illegal like stealing cable is illegal".
If you are paying for Cable-TV, you are ALLOWED BY LAW to be able to DESCRABLE IT. Just so long as you dont descramble the channels you are NOT paying for. Look it up, and make more informed posts next time.
To give you a little history... There one was a time when Telephone companies tried to charge you for each phone you had installed on the SAME line. You had to also purchase the telephone directly from the phone company. The courts thought otherwise. This same case was used towards the cable companies as well. Now, you are ALLOWED to purchase your own telephone just like you can purchase your own cable descambler independent from the phone/cable companies. Just as long you were PAYING for service.
But this is slashdot. We can't let ethics get in the way.
Dragging people kicking and screaming into reality since 1996.
One of the lead LiViD developers has posted a descriptive list of features in OMS/OMI. It also lists the near-term developement goals.
/me prepares to lose huge amounts of karma once the mods hit. /me also takes the troll bait.
/. as being pirates. And also to the god-believing members of /. you just accused of sinning. Give this man a cookie, he's almost a MPAA drone already.
Well, congratulations for blanketing everyone who reads
As i look over to my left, i see about 10 dvd's (I started late, ok) that are practically useless coasters in my dvd drive under *ANY* os other than a windows based os.
Choice, it's all about choice, nothing more, nothing less. Can I pirate dvd's easier w/ this, yes. Will I, NO!!! Just because I can doesn't mean I WILL.
It's like saying that because I know how to build a atomic-bomb, I will, and I will launch it at you all in your sleep. C'mon, use the white tissue between your shoulders, I WANT TO WATCH MY MOVIES, period, end-of story.
Your gun analogy is retarded as it is not legal to kill anyways. If it were illegal to even watch a DVD (obviously false) then your analogy might be correct. Nice try for you though.
A better analogy with guns: (the situation is completely fictional)
Suppose you have an H&K gun and H&K demands you to use H&K-approved bullets. Suppose Steyr makes bullets that you can use in an H&K too. Now you've got your H&K gun, but the Steyr bullets are a LOT cheaper. What would you do?
The gun is yours. There are legal uses of a gun. The conclusion? Provided that your use of the gun is legal, you can choose whatever bullet. Then, the H&K license is legally invalid.
It's a logically trivial conclusion. I wish it is so to you as well.
While I'm glad to see that we've finally got viable DVD players for my favourite OS, I wonder about the picture quality. My (uber-picky) graphics person and I got a Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2040u and a Mitsubishi Plus 200, respectivly. Both are 22", super flat screens. His is running off a 400Mhz G4 with MacOS and the stock video card (ATI Rage 128 Pro, I believe). I'm running a Guillemot 32MB Geforce2 MX on an Athlon 600 (not T-bird).
We played the Matrix on both, first the G4 (Apple DVD Player). Oh my God, I had to change my shorts and take a long shower. This was the best picture I have ever seen. I would swear watching full screen (1600x1200) from the G4 was comparable to being in the theatre as far as picture quality and lack of artifacts goes. We also watched a 320x240 quicktime of Battle Angel Alita, blown up to full screen. The ATI card apearently has a video scaling chip in it, the lack of artifacts (there were still some, heh it was 320x240), and the color quality was exellent.
We tested the Matrix on my box under Win2K and the WinDVD 2.3 software DVD player. Less clarity, colors were a little washed out comparitively (yes we tweaked contrast and brightness on monitor and in DVD player), and the video jittered every now and then (the G4 was as smooth as ).
I'm pretty sure that my hardware has the horsepower to hold it's own against the Apple solution, but they really put a lot of quality into they're software when it comes to multimedia applications.
I just hope that the resources being thrown at Linux DVD don't slow down at 'ok we did it'. IMNSHO, Apple's platform has set a high standard, which is why my graphics developer uses Adobe products on MacOS rather than GIMP and friends on Linux (He does a lot of high end print and 3D work, not just web design).
Besides I'm really tired of running over and having him check out the latest and greatest achievements from the Open Source community, just to have him yawn and produce a list of lacking features and quality. It's making me look bad dammit!!!
But in seriousness, this is great, just as I applaud every release of GIMP, GNOME, KDE and many of the other awesome projects that make using UNIX systems easier, I really must produce a sober reminder that we still aren't the best, or even in running for the top spot, when it comes to quality and richness of features in multimedia stuff.
These are the same reasons that Windows never won over the graphics market (surprise, it wasn't just fanaticism), so we really can't feel bad, the bar is that high.
I hope that one day soon my graphics developer will thank me when I put Yellow Dog or LinuxPPC on his G4. I've already got it on my 1999 PowerBook (did I mention Apple makes great hardware)
So thanks for everyones hard work, it's looking like a great start.
Arrogance is Confidence which lacks integrity. -- me
This is the true reason we need to support the MPAA. If they lose money to piracy, tit quality will only go down.
And then Slashdot makes sure that most people can't reach the site.
Think about it. The average user cannot copy the disk because the "blank" disks have an area burnt into them that contains data necessary for the playing of the disk. (real money-making pirates have no trouble getting "real" blank disks, so this does nothing to them). There is no reason for the contents of this area to be secret, you would be unable to play the copied disk anyway because the necessary data is missing. Other schemes that would work are "intelligent" DVD burners that would refuse to write anything recognized as a DVD, thus destroying the data so bad that it is useless. (Of course SlashDot would hate this stuff as well, but I am just pointing out that the "encryption" has nothing to do with piracy prevention).
The encryption's job is to make it impossible to get the data off the disk into viewable form without using a program under the manufacturers control, thus linking you to other "features" of this program that are not in your interest.
It is true that one of the "features" is that you cannot send the decoded output to storage. This does interfere with piracy. But not much, as still nothing is preventing the contents of the DVD from being copied to another storage, and I doubt there is much technical obstacles stopping the DVD player from being fooled into reading from this storage instead.
Yes, as long as you use XFree86 4.0.2 which has an Xvideo driver for the Rage 128 chipsets. Otherwise it's comparable to a turtle swimming through treacle (at least on my 'piddly' PIII 500)
Sure Xine is great, but don't give the developers too much credit as they "only" developed the frontend and all the "real" work is done by software from the OMS people (mpeg2dec, ac3dec). The em8300 (h+, dxr3) support is a totally independent project and yes, it works with OMS too.
The rumor is that OMS still doesn't have any method for properly synchronizing video and audio. Why would someone put a 1.0 stamp on something that doesn't handle this basic problem?
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There are a few possibilities. One of them is playing the DVD with software playback. This means your processor will be used to decode the MPEGII, another possibility is using a hardware decoder. This last one brings you also the possibility to watch the movie on your television because you also would have a TV-out, most of them also support DD5.1 and DTS output etc. When you use a hardware decoder it will also mean it will use less CPU resources. There are a few good decoders. The first (which I have also) is the Sigma Designs Hollywood+. It's a cheap decoder ( $100) and brings good quality. Unfortunately there are only drivers for Windows 9X/ME/NT/2000 and not for Linux. That brings me to the seconds possibility the Sigma Designs Netstream 2000, this card can also decode live streams, and has also driver support for Linux(!) which is partly open-source. Unfortunately Sigma does not release drivers that often which can cause some problems for example at the moment there is a lip sync issue with DD5.1 DVD's, this is known for half-a-year but there are still no drivers to fix this problem (that wasn't there before). But they've prommised us to release the drivers that fix this problem very soon... Ofcourse if you would buy the NS2000 that would not be a big problem if you use Linux because the most parts of the software you can fix yourself (but unofortunately due to some DVD restrictions you don't have the source to everything...). There is also an open-source Linux project for creating drivers for the Hollywood+ (and Creative DXR3, which is based on the Hollywood+) for Linux but it does not seem to make any progress anymore... Sigma's site: http://www.realmagic.com.
The performance of oms is a bit disappointing, imo. Using a 1 GHz athlon with 256 megs of ram, under gnome in redhat 7, the dvd's framerate fluctuates between 20 and 24 fps. After a while, sound tends to desynchronize itself (using the 2.4 kernel's sblive! driver), and about halfway through a dvd, it stops playing.
After reading a post here, I decided to give xine a try. It's much better. Video is smooth, sound syncs better, and I can watch the end of my dvd's!
One less reason to reboot into windows...
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Ive spent a little over an hour now going over all of the posts that you'll have been submitting, and im AMAZED that some of youll are so stupid and are puppets my the MPAA
They have you fooled into thinking they own you. the same people that are fooled into thinking Microsoft is the only way. You call us communists? You call us criminals? fucking shit, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=dvdimage.iso is perfect for trading DVDs, this shit isnt gonna make people wanna pirate movies. Youll are crazy to say 'Look you communists, you need an authorized player, thats the way. THIS IS ILLEGAL' It really pisses me off, your morons if this is your thinking. You bought the damn thing, you bought the DVD player, what does it matter? CSS doesnt stop me from ripping the disc. It just is a form of control. This is just common sense. Picture this you Windows lovers: Microsoft decides to make it to where you have to have an authorized copy of Windows media player that you have to pay for to look at your little windows media files. What would you do? Thats right, youd get the little shareware version. Of course you wouldnt code it yourselves, you dont have the knowledge. Is that why you flame us? Because
we have the SKILL to do stuff ourselves? Its really starting to piss me off.
I cant wait for the day when corporations dont have people literally brainwashed. thats what youll are... ill be glad when Mozilla is the browser of choice, where noone uses Windows. It will happen. Why? Because we can make things perfect. We have freedom. I know that you posters dont know what freedom is, but its not having to 'have an authorized player to play the DVD youve purchased'
This is just my rant, i hope someone reads it, please reply if you agree, and if you disagree, your too brainwashed, in love with Mircosoft, and have an intimate relationshit with your reset button, feel free to reply too (then just walk in front of a bus)
Posted anonymously since i know some will disagree, but really, the post tries not to be a flame/troll, but my anger is in there, so im sure it may seem like it....
There is also an official announcement for OMS.
But without mpeg2dec and ac3dec from the Livid project, Xine wouldn't exist. Xine also came along at a time when XFree86 started supporting hardware acceleration, giving them an excellent head start. Don't knock Livid, they've done a brilliant job despite the best efforts of the MPAA and the (so far) vapour from Intervideo. I've got to give Videolan a go though, sounds interesting.
But that's the whole point: if you move the CSS decryption upstream (to either the device driver or the DVD filesystem), then players wouldn't have to deal with the CSS issue anymore.
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As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
Unfortunately they aren't brave enough to bundle the CSS plug-in with it. In fact they've gone to great length to make it very unvisible and must be found here.
Have fun!
Derek
Derek Greene
So... how do I get it to not segfault on start?
/home/rothwell/dvd/vlc/./gvlc
Tried the unstalbe release and today's CVS.
Starting program:
VideoLAN Client - version 0.2.60 Urumov - (c)1996-2000 VideoLAN
Cannot access memory at address 0x231
(gdb) bt
#0 _dl_debug_state () at dl-debug.c:56
#1 0x4000ac3b in _dl_catch_error (errstring=0xbffff770,
operate=0x40130990 , args=0xbffff774) at dl-error.c:141
#2 0x40130d3d in _dl_open (
file=0x80b2e58 "/usr/local/lib/videolan/vlc/idctclassic.so", mode=2,
caller=0xbffff770) at dl-open.c:232
#3 0x400323d3 in dlopen_doit (a=0xbffff884) at dlopen.c:41
#4 0x4000ac3b in _dl_catch_error (errstring=0x80a67d8,
operate=0x400323a8 , args=0xbffff884) at dl-error.c:141
#5 0x400328b9 in _dlerror_run (operate=0x400323a8 ,
args=0xbffff884) at dlerror.c:125
#6 0x40032393 in __dlopen_check (
file=0x80b2e58 "/usr/local/lib/videolan/vlc/idctclassic.so", mode=2)
at dlopen.c:53
#7 0x8094ec7 in AllocateDynModule ()
#8 0x0 in ?? ()
(gdb)
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Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
It seems we have gone from none to too many movie solutions for the free unices. I am amazed at the sheer amount of duplication, but I guess that is the way we do things in the free software world.
GPL Movie systems listed from most mature to least, imo:
Q. Who would WANT to download commie hippie shit like that?
A. NOBODY.
So, therefore, Napster steals from artists who DON'T want their art disseminated FOR FREE by rich college students.
Die, Theftster, Die.
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Deepthroat my submarine, swallow my seamen.
illegal in the US != illegal everywhere
Nuff said.
//rdj
No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness.
--Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
OK, I have only one question. What movie does this screenshot come from on the site?
- I don't care if they globalize against free speech. All my best free thoughts are done in my head.
Not by =not producing= a linux client, which anyway we can do ourselves, but by pretending any linux client is necessarily meant for piracy.
This is an insult.
-- javaDragon is an instance of JavaDragon.
we're not simply reading from it, you have to be able to send keys to it or something in order to unlock the drive if it has a dvd in it. That's why... it can't be done through.
Look for an older 2nd hand one. It'll be slower. You need an RPC-1 drive. All the new ones (since 1st Jan this year or last year) are RPC-2. RPC-2 drives are region locked in the hardware. Unlocking it will take a lot more effort.
It does use some of the chipset functionality though as the change from 4.01 to 4.02 upped my frame rate in OMS from 14 to 23.
I also heard the same on various newsgroups. WinDVD is supposedly superior to PowerDVD in terms of picture and sound qualities.
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
dvds actually have 30 frames per second
Some do, particularly TV shows, and almost all anime in the US. The set top DVD players available can play 24/25fps film at 30fps (on NTSC) sometimes by manipulating extra information encoded in the stream and also interpolating it by taking advantage of the interlace frame scanning.
While the posting I am responding to was an absurd troll, it's possible that someone might take it seriously, so I'll respond to be on the safe side.
... you get the idea. There's nothing new about DVD's that innately requires the manufacturer's rights to expand and the consumers' rights to be more restricted -- they're just taking advantage of a shift in technology to attempt to create new rights for themselves. And since those rights are based on trade secrets and not legal rights, it's just fine for people to counter that effort.
Once you buy a DVD, you own it and, and of course you have the right to view it. Of course, all rights must be balanced against other rights (e.g. freedom of assembly can be regulated to ensure public safety). It's absurd to compare playing a DVD you've purchased to shooting your own children.
The issues you raise about "script kiddies threatening the format" are off-base. DVD's can be copied without decrypting them, simply by duplicating them, and in fact well before CSS was cracked DVD's were widely pirated outside of the US because it's so easy (and DVD's are relatively overpriced compared to manufacturing costs). The only thing that encrypting DVD's does is make it difficult to produce a DVD player that doesn't enforce the region coding and licensing fees, and create all sorts of hassles for consumers of the sort that killed off the DAT format (where you often couldn't even copy your own personal recordings).
Keep in mind that many other media formats have succeeded without any encryption: radio, TV, newspapers, books, CD's, LP's, cassette tapes, VHS, laserdisk
On your Windows test, you should have used either Cinemaster(on an ATI Chipset, using ATI DVD player) or PowerDVD (2.55+, 3.0 preferably), because those two players are well known to provide the highest support and the best picture on the Wintel platform. They're both software players, and should provide more than equal performance to the Apple G4, especially if you're matching the technology (i.e., using a ATI Rage128 or Radeon chipset with ATI DVD, which is what the G4 uses). Your results would probably hold up better on the x86 side then.
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Otherwise....those Mitsubishi monitors are nice aren't they? I picked up one of those Diamond Pro 200's myself about nine months ago...I love it
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I dont mind encrypted DVD's what I object to is the region coding. I understand perfectly why an artist, a studio or a softwaredeveloper wants to keep his/her movie/music/software from being pirated. After all they did put alot of effort, money, creativity and brainpower into producing it and want to be able to live off the results of their labour. Just like I (or any of I assume) do not want to slave away for years to pay for a car only to have it stolen a week after buying it. I do not save for a car so that some lazy bastard can get a car for free.
What bugs me is this whole reginon code nonsense. There is really no reason for it to exist other than to create artificial trade barriers. I do not mind paying for DVD movies but I will continue to approve of efforts like OMS while idiotic schemes like Region codes continue to come out of messed up brains of Hollywood beancounters.
For better or for worse, Da Rabbit has spoken!!
Only to idiots, are orders laws.
-- Henning von Tresckow
Nevertheless, they do NOT have a license from the DVD CCA, so therefore, it's illegal.
DVD CCA doesn't have a right to license it in the first place -- neither algorithm, nor keys are protected under any law, they are merely trade secrets, so as long as they were not published by people who had access to them, everyone is free to discover what they are and do with them whatever they want.
DVD CCA can license their software that implements the encryption/decryption algorithms, however no one needs it now anyway, as long as algorithm was reverse-engineered, so DVD CCA can stuff everything they can license into their collective ass.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
No, it's illegal in the same way that breaking and entering is illegal- you break the lock on the dvd, then you 'look around inside'. No again... its like breaking the lock on the dvd YOU OWN, and then viewing the Data that YOU OWN, its like breaking into your own HOUSE, and getting in trouble for not getting a LICENSE TO USE THE DOOR.... Its the end of the world as we know it, and I feel Fine......
It isn't mentioned on the Livid-site (they mention support for dxr2, but not dxr3), but there IS an OMS-plugin for RealMagic Hollywood and Creative dxr3 -cards here. Don't know why the OMS-site doesn't seem to know about it though.
Don't know about the german magazine, but I have tested Xine 0.3.7 with the 0.3 libCSS patch (you can grab it on the #xine channel on IRC.Openprojects.Net) and I have tested over 180 DVD's (region 1 and 2) and so far I got great DVD playback + subtitles support + AC3 sound without any problem...
Machine: Athlon 800, Redhat 7, Matrox G400 Dual Head
Hetz (Heunique)
MPAA: (Re)move DeCSS. For great justice.
You can stop the pirates just as well (ie poorly) with a completely open system, provided you make it illegal to sell blank disks without an unwritable track burned into them. It does not matter whether the contents of this track are secret or not, as in either case somebody could outwit this with hardware or software that provides the data on this track. That cannot be prevented, but if all commercial devices cannot do this it would make the bulk pirates job a lot harder!
Since the existing scheme does nothing to stop the bulk pirates, it is apparent it's goal is something else. Like many here, I believe it is to control the players, so that users cannot fast forward through ads, and so that a pay-per-view system can be gradually implemented in the future.
Didn't you hear? "Rogue players" have been changed to "players of concern."
-schussat
The hour of noon has passed. Let us go and get some Kentucky Fried Chicken.