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P2P Goes To War

lostdogfound writes "OpenP2P.com has an interview with Michael Macedonia, the chief scientist and technical director of the U.S. Army's training facility known as STRICOM, who says peer-to-peer technology could help the military build less expensive and more effective training simulations. It sounds like a holodeck sort of environment, and he hints that some major theme parks are interested in the technology."

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  1. mouth shitter 2x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  2. Why by SpanishInquisition · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    would the army would need porn and metalica mp3s? Oh I see, it's the army afterall...

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    1. Re:Why by thekingofsorrow · · Score: 1

      I'm confused by this, the current technology we have at the DOD is now where near advanced enough to generate anything even remotely resembling a "holodeck" WTF?

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    3. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that's a rhetorical question dumbass.

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  6. Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Dell's New Third-Generation Desktop Chassis


    of the chassis. This standardization lowers system qualification and service training costs for customers, and reduces the inventory of spare boards required , media devices, and hard drives are coded with "Dell access green," which indicates that a component can be removed without tools by end users.

    Levers are designed in shapes to indicate a required action, such as a twist, lift, or push motion. For example, Figure 3 shows that the expansion-card release mechanism in the small form-factor chassis is shaped in a curve to imply lifting or pulling up on the lever.

    Figure 3. OptiPlex Small Form Factor Curved Expansion-Card Lever

    Specific tool-free component removal is discussed in the following sections.

    System Boards

    OptiPlex system boards attach to a metal tray inside the chassis. The metal tray lifts out of the chassis by pulling up on a green tab, as shown in Figure 4. The system board attaches to the metal tray with a single screw.

    Figure 4. OptiPlex System-Board Tray Tab

    Power Supplies

    Power supplies are removed from all of the new chassis by pressing a green release button located on the floor of the chassis (see Figure 5). The small mini tower chassis also has two screws that anchor the power supply to the back of the chassis. Power supply units slide out of the chassis after they are released.

    Figure 5. OptiPlex Small Form Factor Power Supply Removal

    Expansion Cards

    The new chassis support varying levels of Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) expansion. The OptiPlex small form-factor chassis supports one expansion slot for a low-profile, 32-bit, 33-MHz PCI card; the small desktop chassis up to two full-size 32-bit PCI expansion cards; and the small mini tower chassis up to four full-size 32-bit PCI expansion cards. The tower chassis accommodates up to three 32-bit, 33-MHz and two 64-bit, 66-MHz PCI cards. All of the chassis also support one AGP card. No screws are used to attach the expansion cards or filler brackets in any of the new systems.

    To add or remove an expansion card in the small form-factor chassis, lift the green plastic handle that covers the card slot opening (see Figure 3).

    The small desktop chassis uses a riser board enclosed in an expansion-card cage to provide its two optional expansion slots. The expansion-card cage is removed from the system board by pulling up on the green handle attached to the top of the cage. Raise the green lever on the expansion-card cage to add cards to or remove cards from the riser board.

    The small mini tower chassis also uses a riser board to provide two additional expansion slots on the system board. A metal tab on the riser board releases it from the system board, and a green plastic lever locks expansion cards in place.

    The tower chassis uses a green plastic lever to lock PCI cards in place.

    Media Devices

    With the exception of the small form-factor chassis, the new chassis use green plastic bracket rails to install media devices, such as diskette, ZIP, CD, and DVD drives. Figure 6 shows bracket rails clipped to the inside cover of the small mini tower chassis. Drives attach to the rails with screws, and then slide into their appropriate slots. The small form-factor chassis uses a device sled to accommodate the slimline devices used in that system. Slimline optical drives attach to the sled with screws, and slimline diskette drives snap into the sled without tools. Green tabs mark the release mechanism for the bracket rails on the sled.

    Figure 6. OptiPlex Small Mini Tower Media-Device Bracket Rails

    To remove a media device in any of the chassis, simply press inward on the tops of the bracket-rail tabs and slide the media device out of the device slot.

    Hard Drives

    Hard drives use a green bracket-rail system similar to the brackets used for media devices. A vinyl polymer cushion between the hard drive and the bracket isolates hard-drive vibrations so they are not amplified in the chassis and transmitted out of the system.

    Smaller Size

    The footprints of the small mini tower, small desktop, and small form-factor chassis used for OptiPlex systems are reduced by as much as 10 percent. Reductions in the overall volume of the chassis range from 10 to 41 percent. Even though these systems are smaller, their expansion capabilities are equivalent to or better than previous-generation OptiPlex systems.

    AGP Slot

    The system board used in the OptiPlex GX150 chassis now includes an AGP graphics card expansion slot. The small mini tower chassis supports one full-height AGP 4X graphics card, and the small form-factor and small desktop chassis each support one low-profile AGP 4X card (see Figure 7). A full-height AGP 4X card or an AGP Pro card is supported in the Precision WorkStation 530 tower chassis.

    Figure 7. OptiPlex GX150 Small Desktop AGP Card Slot

    Innovative Cover Attachment

    Newly designed cover attachments require less workbench space to perform service tasks. The OptiPlex small form factor, small desktop, and small mini tower covers release by pressing shape- and color-coded buttons located on each side of the housings. The Dell Precision tower chassis cover releases by sliding a handle that is identified by a directional arrow symbol. All of the covers rotate up and out of the way on hinges, but remain attached to the chassis frame (see Figure 8). This tool-free entry, hinged-cover combination provides fast and easy access to system components, and requires workbench space no larger than the chassis footprint. The attached cover not only saves space, but also eliminates the potential to install the wrong cover and service tag number on a system.

    Figure 8. OptiPlex Small Desktop Hinged Cover

    Industrial Design

    Dell selected a color scheme of midnight-gray with lighter-gray accents for the new chassis family. The curved lines, dark tones, and lighter accents provide a sleek industrial design. Chassis frames are stamped from sheets of steel and covered with durable plastic shells made of polycarbonate acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS). ABS plastic is used because of its high tensile strength and resistance to scratches.

    Improved Access to Connectors and Labels

    each chassis.

    Small Form-Factor Chassis

    System service tag number

    Express service code

    System serial number

    Microsoft® operating system certificate of authenticity

    Small Desktop and Small Mini Tower Chassis

    The removable I/O door on the front of the small desktop and small mini tower chassis covers two USB connectors and a headphone jack. This door also covers the system service tag number and the express service code label. The system serial number and Microsoft operating system certificate of authenticity labels are attached to the sides of these chassis.

    Tower Chassis

    A sliding door on the front of the tower chassis, depicted in Figure 9, provides front access for a headphone jack, two USB connectors, an IEEE 1394 connector, and diagnostic LEDs.

    Figure 9. Dell Precision Tower Chassis Front Connectors

    The tower's system identification labels are attached to the top of the chassis.

    There is also a folding front door on the tower chassis that covers externally accessible drives (see Figure 10). This drive door folds out of the way, flat against the side of the tower to provide unobstructed access to the drives. Up to three 5.25-inch drives, or up to two 5.25-inch drives and one 3.5-inch hard drive fit in the tower chassis.

    Figure 10. Dell Precision Externally Accessible Front Drive Door

    Improved Acoustics

    Dell also engineered the new chassis to run quieter than the previous-generation designs. These new systems were developed in Dell's National Voluntary Laboratory Accreditation Program (NVLAP) accredited acoustics lab. (NVLAP is a National Institute of Standards and Technology [NIST] program for providing third-party accreditation of testing and calibration laboratories.)

    Acoustics Standards

    ISO 7779:1999, ECMA-74, and ECMA-108 are acoustics standards for measurement of airborne noise emitted by information technology and telecommunications equipment.

    ECMA is an international association founded in 1961 that is dedicated to establishing standards in the information and communications fields. ECMA is a liaison organization to ISO and is involved in ISO/International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) Joint Technical Committee 1 (JTC1).



    Dell's NVLAP lab is one of only four in the U.S. accredited for International Organization for Standardization (ISO) standard 7779:1999, and the only U.S. lab accredited for European Computer Manufacturers Association-74 (ECMA-74) and ECMA-108 standards. Dell's acoustics test facility includes:

    A 74- and 24-cubic-meter hemi-anechoic chamber for system and component test

    A 24-cubic-meter predicatable field chamber for sound quality

    Brüel and Kjær and Larson-Davis instrumentation

    Automated data acquisition, analysis, and reporting

    These acoustic-design efforts resulted in chassis that operate from 20 to 60 percent quieter than previous systems, depending on the chassis size and configuration. Efficient thermal designs to optimize venting, plastic shrouds for improved control of air flow, and power-supply fans that slow down or shut down completely during periods of reduced activity contribute to the acoustic improvements. The vinyl polymer cushions on the hard-drive brackets used to isolate vibration also play a role in the acoustic improvements.

    Dual-Orientation Option

    As depicted in Figure 11, most of the third-generation chassis provide a dual-orientation option. The OptiPlex small form-factor, small desktop, and small mini tower chassis are designed for vertical or horizontal placement. The vertical, or tower, orientation minimizes the chassis footprint for under-the-desk or desk-side placement. Optionally, placing the chassis in the horizontal orientation under the system monitor minimizes the system's overall footprint.

    Figure 11. Vertical or Horizontal Orientation

    The Dell badge is adjustable so that the logo displays correctly if the chassis is in the vertical or horizontal position. The light-gray trim on the front of the small form factor snaps off the chassis so that the Dell badge can be turned. For the small desktop and small mini tower chassis, simply open the I/O door located on the front of the computer, and rotate the Dell badge to the desired position on the back of the door. The I/O door rotates up on hinged supports, or snaps off of the hinges for complete removal, as shown in Figure 12. The innovative snap-off design protects the door from accidental breakage, and easily snaps back into position.

    Figure 12. Changing the Dell Badge Orientation

    The Dell Precision tower chassis is designed for vertical orientation only, so the Dell badge does not adjust. The metal shield attached to the front of the chassis does not open; it covers air vents that facilitate cooling for large multiprocessor systems.

    Coded I/O Connectors

    A new redundant coding system for the chassis simplifies correct attachment of devices and accessories. As shown in Figure 13, system I/O connectors are labeled with color coding and internationally recognizable icons for easy identification. For example, a blue monitor input connector is mounted on a blue background marked with the international symbol that represents a monitor.

  7. Desensitization by steveo777 · · Score: 1, Interesting
    I suppose the best way to desensize people is to put them inside of a Quake III environment and having them blow crap apart. I know I don't cringe when I see someone on Saving Private Ryan get blown in half anymore. I don't even feel bad, although I probably should.

    I've read that many of the guns found on Civil War battlefields had been loaded numourus time without being fired. People just diddn't know how to be trained killers then.

    I may get flamed for it, but I know this kind of stuff is part of the reason kids are brining guns into schools and shooting people up.

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    1. Re:Desensitization by davey23sol · · Score: 1

      I am currently going out with a girl that just went through Basic Training. She says they actually used Saving Private Ryan in many of the classes she took. They used it to emphasize certain points of battle, but you can be sure the issue of desensitization part of the choice too.

      I'll have to ask about Quake. I didn't hear anything about that, though it is fairly common knowledge the Quake engine has been used to train military personell in certain situations.

      ... and kids are bringing guns to school because they are being mentally tortured, not because of Movies. Even this girl I go out with, who has at least been made to "not cringe" at violence, doesn't carry a side arm or threaten to kill in every day life. Something has to be there to cause violence, whether it be torture or your country telling you "that's the bad guy" (and the bad guy firing back).

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    2. Re:Desensitization by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 1

      Thats because saving private ryan is a movie and you know it. I bet you would have a much different reaction if (god forbid) your friends\classmates are really being cut in half rather than actors being digitally cut in half. I've played every "doom-like" game ever made starting at a young age and real violence always makes me very uncomfortable. Like one of the previous posters said about his girlfriend, even people trained to kill, who *are* desensitized to violence arn't necessarily going to butcher the neighbor kids. Theres a saying .. don't know where its from.. "A lion in battle, a lamb in the parlor."

    3. Re:Desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      There is no reason you should feel bad seeing someone in a movie get blown up. It's a movie. It's not real. Same goes for video games. The problem occurs when you start thinking that movies are like real life. The frightening thing is not that kids are sometimes confused about the difference between fantasy and reality, but that most adults are - and that includes [judging by the comments] a lot of people on this site.


      Desensitization is just another buzz-word which amounts to an excuse for violent behavior. There is no excuse for violent behavior, and concerned people should be making this clear rather than pandering to pop psychology.

    4. Re:Desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone knows kids bring guns to school because they listen to Judas Priest albums backwards!

    5. Re:Desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Private Ryan was a movie, it was not real. Feeling bad about the death of fictional characters is... not good IMO. Feeling bad about not feeling bad about it is worse.

    6. Re:Desensitization by davey23sol · · Score: 1

      IMHO, people feel a lot worse these days about the death of fictional characters than the death of real people.

      "50 people got killed in the explosion" doesn't even cause a new anchor to bat an eye, but kill off Zena in that final episode and people get PISSED!

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    7. Re:Desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Part, yes, but it's a part that shouldn't even be considered in terms of legal mumbo jumbo and all the 'for the children!' laws coming out today.

      At the root of the problem is lack of proper parenting. People cry, "Single mother!" and "Working parents!" all day long, but the fact remains - if you can't raise your children, don't have them. Don't use the tv, or the internet, or video games to raise your child for you, because your child will grow up with a skewed outlook on life.

      I've fragged my share of imps in Doom. I've slaughtered my share of soldiers in Half Life. I've many a time shattered the skulls of Nazi snipers in Day of Defeat. I live and breath movies like SPR and Enemy at the Gates. I enjoy scenes of vicious melee, aggressors cutting bloody swaths of gore through their victims.

      I've also been through the hell known as High School. Columbine? These other shootings? The supposed crap that other students, and even teachers, put the shooters through? Guess what, that kind of stuff goes on at almost every high school. It certainly went on in mine.

      It's funny though - I've yet to go on a shooting rampage. Maybe because my parents put their children first, everything else, including their career ambitions, second.

      As it should be. As it should be.

      If you choose to reproduce, you're responsible for your offspring. Not the television, not the internet, not even the school district or the government. *You* are responsible. Would that more people today realized that parenting is a big deal, and a grave responsibility..

    8. Re:Desensitization by russmay · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but you just pulled a logical fallacy.
      The fact that you feel that you have become emotionally detached from a movie doesn't mean that this is part of the reason that kids are bringing guns to school.

    9. Re:Desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That's only because the average middle-class American cannot even comprehend the simultaneous death of 50 people. It's a bit like telling them that a math problem will take 2^80 years to solve.


      With TV they relate to characters personally, which is no more "abnormal" than relating to a character in a book.


      My concern is people's concern with normalcy.

    10. Re:Desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've read that many of the guns found on Civil War battlefields had been loaded numourus time without being fired. People just diddn't know how to be trained killers then.

      That, and nobody had really begun to comprehend what a horror the war would become.

      Part of it is training and technology. Over the din of everything else going on, a green recruit might not notice that his weapon misfired. Error compounds on error, until finally you have the recordholder at Shiloh: 21 unfired charges in one rifle.

    11. Re:Desensitization by Mr.+Foogle · · Score: 1

      Um. Where to begin .

      The Marines (the US variety) have been using a modded version of DOOM for a while now. Last I looked they were going to mod Quake.

      How many times have you seen Private Ryan? Your not getting desensitezed to gore per se, just that damn movie.

      Cival War battles and musket loads. It's a noted fact for many wars, not just the American Civil War. It's not that they were (or weren't) trained killers - loading / firing a musket is a multiple step process and it's easy when getting shot at to get rattled and skip a step or repeat a process.

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    12. Re:Desensitization by fenriswolf · · Score: 1

      I dont think this is what's causing kids to kill each other... but soldiers definately are getting more vicious. I can see the results of playing hours of counterstrike.....sometimes I walk into a room and I get a though like...."if I was trying to hold this room..I would do it from over there" and that really scares me....giant peer-to-peer military simulations kinda scare me in genreral

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    13. Re:Desensitization by JatTDB · · Score: 2

      I got the same thing with looking for optimum grappling hook travel paths when Quake 2 was big...

      Look on the bright side...if you ever have to defend your home against criminals/terrorists/thought police/girl scouts/whatever, the little bonus of some strategic thinking just might save your life. Thinking like a soldier doesn't have to be a bad thing, as long as you don't act on it without reason.

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    14. Re:Desensitization by togofspookware · · Score: 1

      I think he meant he felt bad because this (WWII) really happened. God, I'm glad I wasn't there.

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    15. Re:Desensitization by jshep · · Score: 1

      <SARCASM>
      What? I thought that Marilyn Manson,
      skateboarding, and computer knowledge were the
      things that drove kids to commit murder in
      schools.
      </SARCASM>

      Please pardon my sarcasm, but I'm really getting sick of this whole argument.

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  8. moo by isudoru · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    moo? moo?

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  9. holodeck? by Jantastic · · Score: 1

    It sounds like a holodeck sort of environment...

    Replicating people running around in puppet suits?

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  10. The Army Groks Simulation by DG · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've had opportunity to train in the Close Combat Tactical Trainer at Ft Knox, and it's one of the best things I ever encountered in my military career.

    When you train live, in the real world, there's really no good way to tell who killed who. I've seen exercises with millions of dollars of equipment and dozens of highly trained, professional soldiers degenerate into a game of "I shot you first!"

    In the simulators, you get to actually employ the weapons against targets, and work with the results. Make a mistake, and you get killed. Get killed a few times, and you start learning.

    And besides, it's a kick-ass game. :) Beats Q3 down cold.

    Even as rough and clunky as the system was around the edges, it was still the best training I ever had. My biggest regret was that we didn't have one at the home unit - if we did, I'd've had the boys spend hours in it every day, practicing, and getting better and better at the job.

    Simulation is the next big military advantage, and the Army has really grabbed ahold of the idea. Watch for some cool stuff to come out of this space.

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    1. Re:The Army Groks Simulation by Alien54 · · Score: 2
      Although I noticed this bit:
      The Army's now going to something called Army Knowledge Online, and they're centralizing the funding for computers, networking and MIS management. They're not necessarily centralizing the operation, I think that'll be the next step. They're trying to come up with an AOL-like model for the Army, for computing.
      I don't know, but this seems like trouble to me.

      :)

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    2. Re:The Army Groks Simulation by Hilary+Rosen · · Score: 1

      HAVEN'T YOU NOTICED THAT ALL AOLERS TALK LIKE DRILL SERGEANTS?

      Mandatory lower case stuff to thwart the lameness filter.

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    3. Re:The Army Groks Simulation by FortKnox · · Score: 1

      I've had opportunity to train in the Close Combat Tactical Trainer at Ft Knox, and it's one of the best things I ever encountered in my military career.

      Which is why my nick is just too cool ;-)

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    4. Re:The Army Groks Simulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "You've Got Killed!" (TM)

    5. Re:The Army Groks Simulation by Coz · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Ha HA!


      I actually worked on that puppy! Rough and clunky it may be, but remember, it's a DoD procurement :> - we did the best we could with what we had at the time. Hundreds of thousands of lines of Ada - yes, Ada... and it's still one of the best things I've ever worked on.


      We used to play in 'em - "test" sessions where we'd do all kinds of strange stuff to try to crash the simulators or the CGF (computer-generated forces, everything that moved that didn't have a person behind it). We joked that if the budget fell short, we could roll up the high-bay doors and charge folks $15 for 10 minutes. You'd need to come as a crew - it takes 4 to run an Abrams (ok, 2 can do it in the sim, but the person in the turret running the gun and sights is gonna get bruised on the equipment).


      Wow. CCTT on Slashdot. My career is validated ;-)

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    6. Re:The Army Groks Simulation by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > I've had opportunity to train in the Close Combat Tactical Trainer at Ft Knox, and it's one of the best things I ever encountered in my military career.

      To the extent that you feel comfortable discussing it (uh, and to the extent you feel comfortable downloading a 64M demo ;) how did the guys at Operation Flashpoint do?

      The reason I ask is that for the past few years, I've been itching for an FPS game that does a reasonable simulation of the foot soldier's experience. I think these guys are close, but I have nothing to compare it against. (And as a civilian, I'm grateful to you .mil folks, past and present, for that lack of experience!)

      All I know is that when I tried the demo, I had a wonderfully-intense feeling of "Oh crap, stick near the rest of the guys around my CO who look like they know where they're going, and try not to get shot in the process!", which seems to my untrained mind like a major step in the right direction over the Quake and Half-Life mod scene...

  11. Here comes the flame by thekingofsorrow · · Score: 1

    Somehow I don't think that seeing the most cartoony death gib ever ::Quake:: could desensitize me to violence and death. The russian videos on stileproject, yes, Quake no. But I guess if you expose anyone to enough violence they will eventually be desensitized

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  12. CALL FOR GOATSE ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    CALL FOR GOATSE

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    15.-17. September 2001

    At Slashdot first post

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    * Frist post ASCII art
    * History of frist post from 12. century to the year 2001

    16. September - Main topic: historic trolls

    * The dawn of time: Natalie Portman and hot grits
    * Is Ogg dead ?
    * Stephen King: dead forever
    * BSD is dying: endless agony and sibling trolls

    17. September - Main topic: new developments and future trends

    * ASCII rolling: forever or until next slashcode release ?
    * High moderated thread invasion
    * The deleted post conspiracy
    * Goatse redirection - the missing link

    Please make all your goatse submissions until 12. September 2001.
    All papers will be accepted, because our reviewers didn't want
    see any more open anuses.

    1. Re:CALL FOR GOATSE ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I don't know what the big deal was with the deleted post. I posted a comment which contained a nice little JavaScript hack exploiting the stupid [link] boxes, Michael (probably...) deleted it rather than fixing the bug.

      But it drives the slashbots mad... So I guess it's ok...

      Still no admission from the High Command though. Taco?

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  13. A new strategy by The_Messenger · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Location: Iraqi Airbase DX5
    Time: 2100 Hours

    Private Yassin: The download is almost complete, sir!
    Sergeant al-Husseini: Excellent work! We've been trying to get that video of Britney Spears' nipple for some time now, but the American pigdogs haven't let us.
    Private Yassin: Yes, sir! Without access to much of the Internet, out people are in desparate need of teen celebrity porn! Download is 90% complete, sir!
    Seeant al-Husseini: Thank Allah for Napster al-Jabbar, the Arabian P2P network! Oh, when I see her erect teen nipple, I think I'll...
    Private Yassin: Download complete, sir! Loading Windows Media Player, sir!
    Sergeant al-Husseini: Hit the "play" button, soldier!
    Private Yassin: Yes, sir! Hitting "play" button!

    Both men stand, mouths gaping, in awed silence.

    Private Yassin: Ahhh! Oh no! What is this, sir?
    Sergeant al-Husseini: The Great Satan has infiiltrated our P2P network! We are doomed!

    Camera pans to view monitor, where we see a 320x320 AVI of George W. Bush masturbating.

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    Yes, the US military's P2P research will certainly be useful in our everlasting fight against dissidents^Wevil. Don't mess with the US!

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    1. Re:A new strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Offtopic??? Hey, that was +2 funny!

  14. question: by davey23sol · · Score: 1

    Is this tech being mis-labeled as "peer to peer" when it is actually more about load balancing and resourse sharing?

    I see how asset sharing might be a peer to peer issue, but virtual environments that need a lot of processing power seem to be more in the rhelm of distributed processing rather than any "P2P" setup. Could someone explain?

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    1. Re:question: by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yes. The article was ridiculous buzzword hype.


      To use a popular example, take a game of StarCraft. There is no central game server, or "simulation authority" -- the game is distributed over all the player's machines, with tokens passed in a ring containing player commands for that timeframe. So, yes, it's "P2P" but BIG FUCKING DEAL. This is nothing new, people.

  15. Help with Mozilla, please by Flarners · · Score: -1

    Could someone please tell me how on earth I'm supposed to get plugins working with Mozilla? I've tried putting both the Java and Flash plugins into /usr/local/mozilla/plugins, and still the about:plugins screen shows nothing but the goddamn null plugin. I'm about to just give up and go back to Netscape 4. Could someone please tell me how to get this thing working?

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  16. Misread Title ;) by mESSDan · · Score: 1


    When I first saw the headline, I mistakenly thought that people had started attacking Gnutella sites. *Phew*

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  17. Army Revenue Idea by Uttles · · Score: 1

    If they do set up such a network, they should open up some restricted simulations to the public. I'd pay $5 for 5 minutes in a full scale war simulator fighting against my co-workers...

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    1. Re:Army Revenue Idea by thekingofsorrow · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the sheer joy of head shoots on my boss would be worst the dollar a minute chareg

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  18. Sure it could.... by ergo98 · · Score: 1

    After they download Operation Flashpoint (that game, er tactical simulation, absolutely KICKS ASS by the way) off of gnutella I'm sure it helped out their simulations quite a bit and helped "reduce costs".


    BTW: Don't pirate. If you like the game: buy it.

  19. Hmm... by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

    I thought Morpheus could only deliver music and pr0n. If I can get grenades and tanks now, I should really download the latest version!

  20. p2p reclassified as munitions!!!! by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 2

    All gnutella users are herby ordered to stop or risk violating national security.

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  21. politics, etc by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    So while the P2P technology gets the support of the Military, while the RIAA, etc goes after it because of their paranoia.

    Maybe national security will trump corporate interests after all.

    or will folks get discounts on their weapon purchases?

    [smile]

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  22. What does p2p have to do with anything? by patniemeyer · · Score: 1


    I have been amused by the p2p nonesense for a while now... But this story just makes no sense. In what way could p2p possibly help anyone build a simulator?

    Anything that can be done with p2p can be done just as well without p2p, if you remove legal/ip boundries.

    Pat Niemeyer

    1. Re:What does p2p have to do with anything? by Weh · · Score: 1

      it's a new buzz "word". Think along the lines of p2pMac, p2pBook, etc...

  23. History of Military Simulators by hillct · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The military has had a rich history of network based simulations. Since the dawn of real networking (with decent bandwidth) there have been military simulators, the first of which were of Naval battle. The navy sunk billions into such projects in the early 1980s, connecting unitssimulating various American, Brittish and French vessels (including submarines), as well as computer generated russian vessels which had all the unique characteristics of each. Durring that period of the Cold War, the navy has some of the most advanced network based simulations available. The technology discussed in the article isn't really that new. Granted, now we have a lot more bandwidth and processing power. You have to admire the systems built in those days specifically because of the accomplishments made dispite these limitations.

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  24. Is it kind of bad joke.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    for SUCH a person to have second name Macedonia ? The next interviewed guy will be who, Col. Teheran?

  25. Don't do it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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    1. Re:Don't do it! by trollercoaster · · Score: 0

      you rule. keep it up (as long as the lameness filter lets you).

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  26. Sun Tzu said it best... by mellifluous · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The ultimate deployment is formless.

    If you cannot analyze your opponent's organization, then you cannot fight it. This is especially apropos in the digital battlefield, where a P2P network minimizes the dependence on any one node.

  27. Stephen King, author, dead at 54 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll


    I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Turly an American icon.

    1. Re:Stephen King, author, dead at 54 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just heard some gay news on talk radio - Your ass was found dead in your boyfriend's cock this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure every fag in Slashdot will miss your ass - even if they didn't fuck it, there's no denying your gayness. Truly an American faggot.

    2. Re:Stephen King, author, dead at 54 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Louis Armstrong, trumpet player and Jazz pioneer, died yesterday morning in his Los Angelos home. He was 71. Armstrong's last performance was at James Madison University's Convocation Center on March 24, 2001, where he played to a standing room only 5,000. Armstrong was helped off the stage by his wife of 20 years, and he later told a reporter for the campus newspaper "I don't know how much longer I can do this. This may be one of my last shows." His final song was his biggest hit, Hello Dolly! He is survived by his wife, 3 children and 6 grandchildren.

  28. OHH YEAA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  29. Saving Lives by marvin+tph · · Score: 1

    We now have the army claiming P2P saves lives. Will the RIAA care? Will the MPAA care? Will the courts care? No. They didn't care about all the previous arguments in favour of P2P and they will be quick to dismiss this one. It doesn't matter how much good it does, if even 1 britney spears song gets through it threatens the economic balance of america.

    1. Re:Saving Lives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This military technology has absolutely nothing to do with Napster other than the fact that they share a common buzzword, P2P.

  30. K-12 P2P client - encrypted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I would have thought the military would been more insterested in K12's peer to peer client. 3DES encryption combined with IPSec with bit-to-bit verification. Hell, I thought the Marines were already using it.

  31. Invidia and Altima rule! by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I can't wait to get me an Invidia card and play me some Altima Online!

    1. Re:Invidia and Altima rule! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well what do you expect from an O'Reilly journalist? :-P

  32. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Style and originallity. I like it

    Meta-meta-moderation:

    (Score:4 Insightfull)

  33. Troll turf war claims three by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The ongoing turf war among troll warlords has claimed three more trolls today, said Brigadier General John Big Boote, head of the UN peacekeeping forces on slashdot. "The breakdown in civil order since the introduction of slascode 2.2 has left a power vacuum, and now these trolllords are moving to fill that vacuum" Gen. Boote continued. "This is worse tha Somolia in '93 -- or the Congo in 1996" Gen. Boote said. "Hell, with the exception of Egypt and Lybia, all of Africa is a festering hellhole of AIDS, cannablism and Chineese AK-47s" Boote said.

    Among the causualties in the recent chaos was "Stephen King found dead". Authorities cofirmed that this promising up and coming troll was found dead in an alley last Tuesday. "The poor bastard never saw it coming" said coroner John Thomas. "He was gang-raped by a mob of hearless annonymous cowards over in a story about the DMCA" coroner Thomas said. "At first it was the usual beating the dead horse troll, but once that mob got ahold of it, they just posted it to every damn story. That's what is so pernicious in this mimetic warfare being waged across the pages of slashdot these days. Once a troll reaches a certain degree of public recognition, it becomes public property, unlike copyright" said Thomas. Another such casualty of late was the "BSD is dying" troll.

    In related news, the "I WILL KICK YOUR ASS" troll has not been seen recently, and is presumed to have been killed in the bomb blast at Patrick "Shithook" Bateman's compound. The notorious trolllord, Cmdr. CYIaBCoX SUYA, leader of the anti-Beowulf-cluster troll resistance claimed responsiblity for the blast. Speaking from his headquarters under the 57th street bridge, Cmdr. SUYA expressed regret that his mentor "I WILL KICK YOUR ASS" may have succumbed in the attempt on the Beowulf cluster stronghold. "But," contiued Cmdr. SUYA, "no price is to high to pay if we can rid slashdot of the scourage of Beowulf cluster trolls."

    In political news, the Annoymous Coward ASCII art front stated that it will continue carpet bombing discussion threads until Cmdr. Taco ends ethnic cleansing against trolls and repudiates the lameness filter. Cmdr. Taco was quoted as responding to the news with a long tirade about freedom of speech, but only for people who happen to run their own website. For a full account of the speech, see page eight.



    (The correspondant who filed this report was found sliced in half in a dumpster behind Krispy Kreme.)

  34. Wheee... by zulux · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    I wanna be like the Army, they get to play Altima Online with their Invidia graphics cards. Or somthing.

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    1. Re:Wheee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoever mod parent offtopic - diden't read the article. Read article first, *then* moderate. A redundant would have been fine, someone else made the joke first.

  35. Bruce Sterling described trend in first Wired! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The private sector builds the toys

    A long, scary article. P2P version is a press release in comparison.

  36. cock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I like shoving my cock into little boy's asses.

    Jon Katz

  37. lady in red by buttahead · · Score: 1

    "We call it "simulation on demand," so that when you need to learn something, when you need to experience something, when you need to plan something, you can instantly get it."

    how long before our boys figure out they can simulate a 6', blonde lady. Definate bombshell learning.

    1. Re:lady in red by Nick+Number · · Score: 1

      how long before our boys figure out they can simulate a 6', blonde lady. Definate bombshell learning.

      Ensign Barclay! That is NOT appropriate use of the holodeck!

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  38. Welcome to Internet 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The immersive environment is exactly what Gibson was writing about in Neuromancer and other 'Net screeds. Looks like we may not have to hardwire everyone in to make it happen.

    I'm typing this in a computer class where I am exhausted from playing World War II Online all night, another online game similar to the ones mentioned. Make no mistake, this kind of stuff is addictive moreso then any other experience.

    This kind of training/prior simulation can be expanded to other jobs where mistakes are expensive- medical operations, heavy equipment operation/maintenance, even driving school.

    So many things come to mind- will we have to have car safety laws to prevent drivers from reading maps on their glasses?

    Will warfare be that much more lethal with everyone prepared to the nth degree?

    Will this type of online crack make current netaholics look like orange juice drinkers?

    Will there be a distinction anymore between being online and being in the real world?

    Will I have to suffer through local tourist trap pop-up ads while using my HUD on vacation?

    And anybody want to bet it will be the porn industry that gets this rolled out first?

  39. OT: P2P resources by PureFiction · · Score: 3, Informative

    The emerging P2P scene is still pretty interesting. For the curious there are a few good resources out there for the latest info on peer networks in general:

    www.infoanarchy.org

    www.peertal.com

    Decentralization mailing list

    P2P-hackers mailing list

  40. Augmented Reality by Talinom · · Score: 1

    I believe that Slashdot had an article on a related subject. There is a link or two about this on the 'net.

    According to some of the work done in the field, some of their largest problems have to do with the location of the person, the direction that the person is facing, and the angle that their head is at to properly display WHERE the graphics are going to be put.

    Read the links posted above as they describe more effectively that I ever could what is going on.

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  41. SAT Range? by Usquebaugh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This sounds very much like the 'Small Arms Training' range.

    I've been in the process of setting one of these up in my living room :-) Well ok maybe a simplified version. It's no where near complete yet http://home.pacbell.net/ajmoir/LightGun.htm

    It also helps that the old American Laser Games, MadDog McCree etc are soon to be released on DVD :-) http://www.digitalleisure.com/pr010517.html

    If you like the idea of playing these sort of games then drop me a line.

  42. Actually, it does not by supabeast! · · Score: 2

    "...it sounds like a holodeck sort of environment..."

    What the article describes is a head mounted display connected to a powerful 3D engine. In the long run, the same thing could be done with a nice virtual reality helmet and a Quake Mod.

  43. IF I EVER MEET YOU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I WILL KICK YuOR ASS!!!11!! ,!-- goodbye lameness filter please go away now -->

  44. Yea well check this VR-Quake out. by Neck_of_the_Woods · · Score: 1


    http://www.vr-atlantis.com/default.htm

    This place already has units in Korea, and a couple other amusement parks. I spoke with the Pres at one time about a job. Very nice set up they have and they plan to ip them world wide.

    Strap into a VR-Quake machine for 5 bucks and play someone half way around the world in life size VR.

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  45. This signals the end of the United States. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm deadly serious.

    The next war we fight.. Our soldiers will not fight back.

    Instead, they'll crouch behind cover, while shouting..

    "You freaking campers!"

    (:

  46. Dick and Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >military build less expensive

    Huh? With Bush in office? Riiight.

    SuperZike.com

  47. Not just desensitization by sconeu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Marine Corps at one point used a customized version of DOOM for training... wish I could remember the URL!

    Now to more serious stuff...

    STRICOM is the Simulation, Training, and Instrumentation Command. They are heavily into distributed simulation (especially DIS and HLA).

    I recall that at one point they ran some exercise (I think it was REFORGER, but I could be wrong) completely simulated, involving units from all over the world. This was back in the '95-'96 time frame.

    Also, simulation isn't just for desensitization. It's mainly used for vehicle simulations. Remember, those planes/tanks/whatevers ain't cheap! Not to mention the ability to train soldiers under battle conditions without risk to their lives.

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    1. Re:Not just desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sheesh, you are quite the little karma whore, aren't you?

    2. Re:Not just desensitization by gmanske · · Score: 1

      I believe it was the MCMSMO (MARINE CORPS MODELING AND SIMULATION MANAGEMENT OFFICE).
      and for some background: Marine Doom.

    3. Re:Not just desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, thanks for the info. I'm so goddamn stupid, I never would have either been able to learn that on my own or just known it beforehand. Thanks for enlightening those of us not quite as gifted as you are, dumbass.

  48. this article is fucking gay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    and that's all that's worth saying about it.

  49. Peer to Peer??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is that a bit like Docking? No wonder the army would be up for it.

    Your comment violated the postersubj compression filter. Comment aborted

  50. fi nig pos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i would just like to say that this is the first nigger post.

  51. Theme park technology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, it's Larry Niven's Dream Park coming alive... freaky.

  52. WTF ? That doesnt make sense ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ok ... How could they use a network protocol (P2P) to create virtual environement "ala" holodeck ? That'ld be like programming Quake III using only winsock.h ... ... Or maybe I just dont have enough info about P2P .. Anyway ... WHATEVER !

  53. They just want... by KajiCo · · Score: 1

    to stop all those damn rookie accidents. One cool thing out of it, is that by the time the military adapts it, it will be standard practice for us. It's a cool idea. Will it work though?
    My favorite quote though is the following:
    Now one of the major theme park companies is very interested. I will not reveal their name though, but did you notice that we're in Orlando?
    I can just see it's a small world after all in a holodeck enviornment. LET ME AT THAT SNIPER RIFLE!

  54. 3 of 8, just to test /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just testing how fast this reply/post messages grow... 3 of 8 when start submiting this reply

  55. Another optical solution? by cr0sh · · Score: 2

    This would work - but a good hi-res projector is going to be expensive (it possible to build a cheap video projector though, I guess). If you are real serious about this though, price won't be an issue.

    You mentioned on your site that you didn't like an all optical system, but you didn't give much in the way of detail why. You mentioned refresh rates and such, so I imagine you are talking about the scanline based systems for determining where you shot at.

    Here is another possibility - optical as well, though:

    The gun is optical, has a lens to focus the light from the monitor/crt onto a phototransistor. When the trigger is pulled, all the targets can flicker at different frequencies, alternating between the normal image and an all-white image. The phototransistor would pick up which one you are aiming at based on brightness and frequency.

    At least, it is a theory. Probably wouldn't work great, though. Using a laser pointer is good, but the projector portion is going to be the bad part (expen$ive)...

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  56. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Something that 1% of 1% of 1% of computer users care about.

  57. Another SIMNET/DoD Simulation alumnus by mr_death · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was one of the original SIMNET developers at BBN in the 80s. One of the problems we had at that time was scalibility -- we used broadcast ethernet to relay vehicle state to all other vehicles. As you might imagine, this doesn't work very well once you get up to 500 or so vehicles.

    HLA uses a single or multi-server architecture, which allows entities to "sign up" for objects and event they find interesting. Each entity can also be a server, which might be the way to make the P2P part work.

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    1. Re:Another SIMNET/DoD Simulation alumnus by Coz · · Score: 1

      I'm an HLA plankholder - have the certificate around here somewhere. Was on a team that modified the CCTT CGF to play in HLA way back when, around '96-'97 or so.

      We had a couple of SIMNET units to compare against - "played" in them some evenings, too, to figure out how some of the interactions worked. We bumped up against the limits of the DIS protocol pretty fast - biggest cost was that the update processing from all those other entities eventually stole all the processing time your local CPU had to do its simulation in. Multicast helped, but managing the groups was a pain. HLA's publish-subscribe model worked better, but the RTIs (Run-time Interface, for those playing along at home - the "servers" in HLA) didn't perform too well - didn't scale for us. But that was then - I'm sure they're MUCH better now.

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    2. Re:Another SIMNET/DoD Simulation alumnus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Judging from the memory & speed requirements of the current sample implementation (RTI NG) you would think not. (I get sick just from looking at the size of those CORBA .dll's!)

      Still we've scrapped that for the MÄK RTI on our project, and that is much nicer!

      Good to listen to comments by old dogs of war from SIMNET & HLA in the middle of all these rants from Quake heads!

    3. Re:Another SIMNET/DoD Simulation alumnus by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Wow. I got so hung up on the acronyms, I spent several seconds trying to figure out what MUCH stood for.

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    4. Re:Another SIMNET/DoD Simulation alumnus by mr_death · · Score: 1

      The two founders of MaK were also "old dogs of war" from SIMNET. John Morrison and Warren Katz (the M and K in MaK) did excellent work on SIMNET for BBN, and it doesn't surprise me that their RTI works well.

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  58. From the article... by megaduck · · Score: 2

    One of the big things that's coming out today, or the last two years, has been EverQuest, which is a 3-D virtual reality game. There's other ones called Asheron's Call and Altima Online.

    Altima Online!

    Drive your Nissan Altima around in a virtual world populated with thousands of boring commuter automobiles! Avoid parking tickets! Quest for cheap gasoline! Rack up mileage! Altima Online, coming soon to a PC near you.

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  59. Retarded by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 1
    With the exception of a couple people reminiscing about working on military simulators back in the day, I have found every single comment to be exceptionally retarded.

    Please go learn something, then come back and have an intelligent discussion.

    Thank you.

  60. They can't outspend Microsoft? by Ecyrd · · Score: 2

    Microsoft will spend 2 billion dollars on the XBox... The entire Army budget for research and development this year is $1.6 billion. So Microsoft is spending more money on a game console than the Army is spending on basic and applied research. So we're in a dilemma here. We can't outspend Microsoft.

    Doesn't anyone else think this is scary?

  61. The line blurs a little more by Nick+Number · · Score: 1

    The truth feathered and tarred
    Memories erased and promise gone
    Trading your history for a VCR
    Cinema, simulated life and trauma
    Birthright, culture, Americana
    Chained to the dream they got your searchin' for
    The thin line between entertainment and war

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  62. Desensitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me ask you a question. Since you have been desensitized (so you think). Have you ever been in a combat situation? Have you ever been fired upon by someone intent on killing you?

  63. An alternative to war? by DrCode · · Score: 2
    If it's that much fun, perhaps countries could use simulators instead of having real battles. Seems like a lot of wars are about culture, religion, or just egos. In other words, they're not about anything physical.


    So set the leaders and top military commanders up with one of these 'games'. If it's fun enough, they'll get so engrossed that they'll forget what they were fighting about.

    1. Re:An alternative to war? by Moofie · · Score: 2

      Which wars are those? I'm curious for your viewpoint...all the wars I America has been involved in were a) in response to direct threats to national soverignty (and, yes, in the 50's and 60's the expansion of communism was percieved as such a threat) or b) treaty obligations.

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