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XBox II Revealed, Maybe

aka-ed writes: "PC Format in the UK claims to have scooped the world with a look at Home Station, an apparent successor to XBox. A multimedia gateway that sits between you and that broadband window on the world, with MS the Gatekeeper. It looks cool, and it's a product of Satan! Who wants to be bad?" "Claims" is the operative word in the above. Update: 09/09 12:42 PM GMT by M : And it's even a duplicate story. Well, news is a little slow at zero-dark-thirty Sunday morning...

117 comments

  1. I hope... by mike260 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...they do make it flat-topped like the (obviously fabricated) illustration. Making the top of the xbox curved so you can't stack stuff on it is just rude.

    1. Re:I hope... by rpozz · · Score: 1

      Given that its got quite a number of vents, I can imagine it'll be running a Pentium or AMD CPU, which will get quite 'warm', so putting stuff on it will prolly make it overheat.

      Looks like its basically a newbie's computer.

    2. Re:I hope... by cavecanem911411 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Except for the front, it looks almost exactly like my dad's VCR, which is circa 1987 or earlier. That thing still works though - who knows about this mutation?

      Probably looks like the same VCR inside, too. ;)

    3. Re:I hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ugh. I would want to see how you decorate your apartment.

      That's like saying that the butt-ugly cars of the 70s with all the sharp angles and points look better than the smooth rounded cars of today (just take a look at the new Mercedes C class!).

    4. Re:I hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Is "stacking stuff" your idea of good interior decoration?

      A couple of hints:

      1) Have as little stuff visible as possible - overstuffing your apartment is vulgar. If you have to stack stuff, stack it in a closet or something.

      2) Use the different shapes to your advantage. Nature is not all round or angular. It has all kinds of shapes. A well decorated apartment will also have a variety in the shape of things.

      3) KISS.

    5. Re:I hope... by mike260 · · Score: 2

      That's like saying that the butt-ugly cars of the 70s with all the sharp angles and points look better than the smooth rounded cars of today

      No it isn't. I'm saying that the xbox is a totally repugnant design anyway, and all the curve does is make it harder to pack it away under the TV along with the video and other consoles.

      Ugh. I would want to see how you decorate your apartment.

      Heh, I just got a mental image of you typing that message in an apartment decorated entirely in curvy black plastic with translucent green trim. How I decorate my house is to hide horribly-designed crap from view as much as possible.

    6. Re:I hope... by Telex4 · · Score: 0

      Isn't it odd how offtopic Slashdot posts get? ;-)

    7. Re:I hope... by mike260 · · Score: 2

      1) Have as little stuff visible as possible - overstuffing your apartment is vulgar. If you have to stack stuff, stack it in a closet or something.

      Wow, and I thought that stacking similarly sized boxes along the axis of their least dimension might actually reduce their visible surface area. Thanks for the tip!

      3) KISS.

      'Keep It Simple Stupid', my ass.

    8. Re:I hope... by demaria · · Score: 1

      Nintendos, they used to be flat topped. Then people would put ham sandwitches and Pepsi on top of the device. This broke some of them when the soda spilled and bread crumbs got in the circuitry.

      All Nintendos since then have been curveyed topped, so you couldn't do that.

      Likewise, if you put a VCR on top of a DVD player, bad things will happen.

  2. Interesting how times change... by km790816 · · Score: 1

    At first, companies made money by making hardware, a la IBM. Then MS came on the scene and made computers a commodity and software the place for big margins. Now that Linux and the Internet has made proprietary, licensed software somewhat unnecessary, MS is getting into the hardware game. It's come full circle.

    1. Re:Interesting how times change... by Telex4 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I don't think you can claim GNU/Linux and the Internet have made proprietary software unecessary, nor can you claim this has led to M$'s decision.

      Both of the two "revolutions" have meant that M$ has had a hard time keeping its foot in the server market, which has led to diminishing returns where usually frequent upgrades are necessary. Meanwhile most home and office desktop users rely on Windows, because GNU/Linux just isn't easy enough for them, nor is it marketed half as well as Windows. So Microsoft still dominates the desktop market, and still has a foot in the server market. The point is that people aren't buying new computers or operating systems as much any more because the market is nearing saturation - almost everyone has now bought a PC. This is why they've deliberately made Windows XP so incompatable - to drive more sales.

      M$ have realised that software won't be able to suppor them anymore, so they've gone back to hardware. So yeah, it's gone full circle in a sense, but not for the reasons you cite. It seems M$ are finally aiming for Bill Gates' dream which he outlines in his awful book "The Road Ahead" - a world where electronic gadgets and computers fit seamlessly into our homes, and everything we do runs off Microsoft software and Microsoft connections.

    2. Re:Interesting how times change... by ichimunki · · Score: 2

      Actually it looks to me like they're somehow making most of their money off beta software and product announcements. How is it we have the XboxII when Xbox (one) hasn't even been released and successful?

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    3. Re:Interesting how times change... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to this article, the hardware itself will be sold cheaply, and probably under margin, like many consoles are today. The money will still come from the software, and now services, in rented movies and games.

    4. Re:Interesting how times change... by Datafage · · Score: 2

      It's Microsoft, they'll go through several generations of product without caring about success.

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  3. looks a lot like this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Redundant

    looks a lot like this one doesn'it?

  4. hacking by [amorphis] · · Score: 1

    what will really be interesting will be the hacking projects.

    whether you can actually play games on it or not, Linux on the Xbox will be too cool (and spite MSFT like nothing other :)

    1. Re:hacking by Loligo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >Linux on the Xbox will be too cool (and spite
      >MSFT like nothing other :)

      Anyone taking bets that MS will try to get something into the license that would somehow make it a violation of the DMCA to run any other OS on this thing?

      -l

    2. Re:hacking by Bodrius · · Score: 4, Funny

      If a significant percentage of the Slashdot readership is willing to buy an X-box for the sake of a Linux hack... maybe Microsoft finally found a way to make money out of this "Free Software" thingie...

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    3. Re:hacking by gimpboy · · Score: 2

      more likely the xbox will be full of winmodem like hardware. this will make it very diffacult to put linux on it in any usable form.

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    4. Re:hacking by Phexro · · Score: 3, Insightful

      actually, video game console manufacturers sell their hardware at a loss, and make up for it by charging for their development environment and/or licensing fees for game developers.

      sounds like a good deal to me. i get a nice linux box, microsoft loses money. everybody wins!

    5. Re:hacking by Bodrius · · Score: 1

      Since the X-box is PC-based hardware-and-software-wise, isn't Microsoft already forfeiting the usual Sony businessmodel?

      Or are there differences I don't know about?

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    6. Re:hacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it's got a proprietary bootloader and proprietary expansion connectors. MS is not forfeiting the normal console business model (instead they are ratcheting it up, taking a larger than normal loss on the console itself.)

    7. Re:hacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, even better, ditch the M$ box entirely and just hack a damn computer to do esxactly the same things - without a greedy multinational trying to sniff your every entertainment interaction for an opportunity to make money or sue you for some trivial violation of IP.


      In an age of the rise of Open-Source operating systems, with a variety of freely hackable, small-footprint, standalone-device appropriate OSes ready to go, and when in a matter of years everyone who's into computers is going to have an obsolete supercomputer on their desks waiting to get stuck in the attic and replaced by a three inch cube with a synthetic eel brain in it, the idea of giving M$ a market for set-top boxes is just simply stupid.

  5. Umm... Haven't we seen this here already? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    And, more important, why Microsoft whoring (X-Box announcements, "Pocket PC good, Palm bad", any comment along the lines "Resistance is futile") is both considered a good idea for articles, and in comments?

    Slashdot wants to make things look more controversial? Well, it succeeded -- when I am sick of Microsoft and Microsoft-inspired idiocy at work, I look at Slashdot and see more Microsoft idiocy. I mean, ok, there was one announcement about HomeStation, people talked (and karma-whored) a lot about it, we have hard multiple times again why everyone except Microsoft supporters should just wrap himself in a sheet and slowly crawl to a cemetery because Microsoft will own everything, but why should we be subjected to this bullshit again?

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    1. Re:Umm... Haven't we seen this here already? by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      OH NO! GOD FORBID THAT SLASHDOT HAVE AN ARTICLE THAT DOESN'T BASH MICROSOFT!

      Just because you do everything in your power to be an idiot and think that everything Microsoft == the spawn of the devil doesn't mean that everyone else shares that moronic viewpoint.

      Grow up.

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    2. Re:Umm... Haven't we seen this here already? by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Alex, I will tell you why I thought this article was significant.

      We are nearing the point now where "intellectual property owners" are capable of keeping their IP in their "physical possession," in the form of copyable bytes on a remote server.

      In the new licensable-not-purchasable world, MS would like to be the gatekeeper. This story describes a device that sounds like a box-o-fun, but is designed to channel your credit card transactions, and funnel a good percentage of those funds to the gatekeepers.

      As an illustration of Microsoft's current strategy and its logical destination, this article is either skillful fiction, or scary fact. Despite the "artist's concept" illo, I suspect this story is entirely true, because it dovetails so well with what is known about MS and its plans.

      I do not think this is a good thing. I like owning my CD's and videos and games. I don't want my credit acct to be charged a nickel every time I play a song. I won't enjoy music much under such circumstances.

      That is why I think this is newsworthy. Michael says it's a duplicate story, but I don't know what it duplicates, a search for "Home Station" brings up zip.

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    3. Re:Umm... Haven't we seen this here already? by east_bay_pete · · Score: 1

      try searching for "Home Station". Slashdot search sure ain't google.

    4. Re:Umm... Haven't we seen this here already? by esper_child · · Score: 1

      because MicroSoft has made them its bitch :)

  6. What the fuck is wrong with you, michael? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What was the point of that last comment? Aren't people allowed to admit that MS could put together something that looks good. Of all the editors here, you are the most fucken retarded. When slashdot bites it, you aer out of a job with nowhere to go. I will never stop laughing at you.

    1. Re:What the fuck is wrong with you, michael? by Telex4 · · Score: 0

      You've misread what he said. The first sentence says that PC format "claim" to have the first scoop. They don't - it was on Slashdot and lots of other web sites a while ago. Michael was pointing out that PC Format's "claim" was a little dubious.

      Stop lashing into people because they have bias. A world without bias is a world of drones.

  7. This is the best link about it! by Troed · · Score: 4, Redundant
    right here


    ... no more comments about Slashdot editors.

    1. Re:This is the best link about it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't believe how the editors can be as dumb as pigshit! Can't even remember a post from little under two days ago? This sounds like I'm trolling, but please guys, use your common sense it isn't that much to ask.

      Just goes to show none of the /. crew actually read /.

      Ohh the irony.

    2. Re:This is the best link about it! by dimator · · Score: 2, Troll

      funny, not informative. moderators should at least follow links...

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    3. Re:This is the best link about it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did follow the link. It is to a /. story that links to the exact same PC Format story. Unlike this story, it has 117 comments. More importantly, it was posted to the front page 3 days ago. So I'd say that this comment is Informative, not Funny.

  8. Hey everyone! by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The children that I'm planning on having just announced that they're going to have children! I'm going to be a grandfather! Woo-hoo!

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  9. Linux based set top box?!? by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

    I'm guessing strong arm tatics are going to kill any chance of running X on my TV huh? We all know every major network/film studio/EVERYONE will have to work with the MS only set top box standard.

    Please support the Linux project - I don't want to watch MSNBC all day!

  10. That's how close to a PC the XBox is... by DeepFyre · · Score: 0

    ...when you've bought it, there's already something better(?) out. :)

  11. I remain unimpressed by datavortex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They're trying to make a little dinky console do too much. I don't think that anyone (especially Microsoft) can integrate so many disparate functions so easily. They should have just stuck more with trying to make it competitive in its core purpose: gaming. I just want my stinking gamecube.

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    1. Re:I remain unimpressed by Scivitri · · Score: 1

      Ah, but adding 'features' to a product is an ingrained practice. Granted, some features added to a product are nice. But most of the time they're not features you would ever want, or could use. They're just added so the price can be raised, and/or as an incentive to purchase.

      And let's face it, is there anyone better at adding useless or unwanted 'features' to a product than Microsoft?

  12. The back... by pixphys · · Score: 0, Redundant
    1. Re:The back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's been ripped straight from the back of a Pace Micro set-top-box. They've put no effort into this blatant forgery, you usually find some creativity at least, but that box is just a complete take of their nearest rival

      Thinking about it... when it comes to MS, that could actually be a legit picture.

    2. Re:The back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, look at the top towards the front. It says "Home station". *Some* effort was put into it, and for the moment I can't even find a picture of the back of a Pace box.

  13. Xbox II?? by DrD8m · · Score: 2, Funny

    Xbox has not yet failed and Microsoft are thinking about Xbox II?

    1. Re:Xbox II?? by alexalexis · · Score: 1

      The XBox II (or HomeStation) is the key to an "all or nothing" campaign, which is how Microsoft does everything. The general idea is to throw a ton of money into marketing an inital product, and if/when that product gains a reasonable market share, release a newer version which incorporates more non-traditional technology in the niche market they're targeting. Also known as embrace and extend - instead of focusing on making the game console better at playing games, they make it do a whole bunch of other things, which essentially forces the competition to follow their lead if the XBox becomes a successful platform. The trick is to have that second (greatly expanded) product waiting quietly in the wings, so that it can be released before the competition has a chance to develop and retool their production line to incorporate the new features.

      From a marketing perspective, it makes a lot of sense for a company with enough resources to do this sort of thing, and it's (obviously) been a very successful tactic in the past. Microsoft can afford to bury their unsuccessful products -- like the oft sited Bob, which undoubtedly had a second revision waiting for release in the event that Bob 1.0 was a huge success.

  14. Fine, slashdot editors. by Kappelmeister · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have it on good authority that the box will actually be called "My Games Console".

    Can I have my 4 karma points now? (with apologies to Ayon Rantz.)

    1. Re:Fine, slashdot editors. by Troed · · Score: 1

      ... it's even more funny than 4+ that you got them .. *lol*

  15. Re:Who's house? I said Ron's house by Spootnik · · Score: 0

    Why, thanks! Laden or unladen?

  16. Re:Xbox III?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Xbox-III will be the killer, remember they don't get anything right until at least version 3.0

  17. Planned Obsolescence, Anyone? by surfimp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While this sort of thing is certainly normal, it's kind of shocking to see XBoxII well along in it's development before XBoxI has even hit the store shelves. This thing's product lifecycle makes Microsoft's proposed 3-year licensing/upgrade scheme look pretty tame by comparison.

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    1. Re:Planned Obsolescence, Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony started planning Playstation III with IBM months before Playstation II was released.

  18. Someone has to say it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, it's just a faked image and a stupid story to boot. But can you imagine a beowolf cluster of these?!?!?


    *GRIN*

  19. Yes it's a "Manufactured" image, BUT- by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    Yes, we can all see it's not a photograph, but a computer-generated image. But does that in ANY WAY AT ALL challenge its authenticity? Do you ever see Any Photographs of what a new product is going to look like just after the first rumors of it came out? Of course not. The actual product hasnt been made yet, so there are no photographs.
    Did you see a Photograph of the Playstation 2 when people first started hearing about that? No, of course you didnt, you saw a Computer-Generated image of what they thought it was going to look like.
    Of course the image is Manufactured, The Product hasnt been Made yet. Because it's manufactured, does that make it /fake/? Not at all. In fact my only problem with the image is the font used to write out "Home Station" is one not made by Microsoft, and they probably wouldnt want to go through any legal battles when the original creator decides that he has a stake in the trademark.

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  20. I love Microsoft. You should too. by notestein · · Score: 0

    Bill is just plain great.

  21. Vaporware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MS is announcing this well, well in advance to make it look like the X-Box 1st edition look more promising. Good strategy, even the Slashdot geeks have fallen for it! :)

    1. Re:vaporware by Chris+Johnson · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but it's an alarmingly stupid move. People will hold off buying X-Box because they're waiting for X-Box II to come out... especially in an unenthusiastic economy.

  22. vaporware by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 1

    It's all vaporware. there is no such thing. the people at PC Format aer a bunch of asses looking for another story to fill their pages.
    just the national enquirer of tech.

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  23. Re:Xbox III?? by ChadN · · Score: 1

    With Direct 3D, it took until at least version 7 to even get close...

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  24. What good is a rumor like this anyways? by forgoil · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is just about to release the XBox, and already talk about the successor/set top box version/pr0n machine/whatever. Remember the PS2? Remember the rumors about PS3? If you guys aren't satisfied with that is comming our way, live with the fact that there won't be a super machine just around the corner...

  25. what about XBOX 3 ? by ciupman · · Score: 1

    Its funny, XBOX isn't even out here in portugal (as well as i'm aware of) , and they're already talking about the XBOX 2, ok, ok, i know i live in a 3rd world country.. , but have u guys fiddle enough with the XBOX to be asking for an XBOX 2 already ..

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    1. Re:what about XBOX 3 ? by donglekey · · Score: 1

      It isn't out anywhere. It won't come out in the united states until november 8th.

  26. in other news... by Phexro · · Score: 2

    the xbox still isn't for sale.

    not like this article is premature or anything...

    1. Re:in other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      not like this article is premature or anything...

      And while we're at it, why are there plans for a 2.5 kernel series? Is this a hint that Linux 2.4 was a failure?

  27. And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had to reload the main page twice because I was sure I saw the news before...

  28. PS3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    before the PS2 came out sony already had plans for the ps3 and i working on the ps4 even as we speak. PS3 will be out in 2003, so if you don't already have a PS2, you might as well wait.

    1. Re:PS3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except for one thing; the life cycle of a home console is closer to five years these days.

      PSX - 1995
      PS2 - 2000
      (PS3? Hide and watch, but my guess is ~2005)

      NES - 1985
      SNES - 1990
      N64 - 1996 (Yeah, I know, six years here)
      Gamecube - 2001

  29. They still make their money on software. by telstar · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but when it comes down to it ... Microsoft will be losing money on the XBOX hardware, and only making that money back on the software. That's why they promote bundling ... to offset some of that initial loss right up-front.

    1. Re:They still make their money on software. by Zeno_1 · · Score: 1

      Ive heard that they have to sell about 6 games to make up for the cost of the XBOX hardware.

      Also, I was thinking, how long do you think it would take someone to make an emulator for pc that will play XBOX games?

  30. flamebait? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sir, you are full of shit indeed, but your comment was more Offtopic than otherwise. See those moderators in Metamod .

    Sincerely, Mike Bouma

  31. wait a second... by masteroveride · · Score: 1

    If Microsoft makes their products like they write their code... we're all in a lot of trouble ;-)

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  32. Broadband connected 'home automation device' uh-oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With Mickysoft's dysmal track record for security, a device like that should be a juicy target for hackers. 'Homestation', indeed! If MS get their tentacles in bed with X10 we should finally be able to hook into all those voyeur spycams they been selling. I'm so not gonna allow any MS 'devices' in my house, on my LAN - no fricking way.

  33. Marketed by SNL by InfoVore · · Score: 2, Funny

    A: "Its a Game Machine."
    B: "Its a Digital Recorder."
    A: "Game Machine!"
    B: "Digital Recorder!!!"

    MS: "Its a Game Machine AND a Digital Recorder!"

    Sound familiar?

    IV

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    1. Re:Marketed by SNL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AND its a floorwax.

    2. Re:Marketed by SNL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a dessert topping, you COW!

  34. Leak,just days after Justice Dept says no breakup? by dogbot · · Score: 1

    Interesting timing.

  35. Time to postpone my home entertainment purchases by heroine · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Because, like the XBox, HomeStation is going to be 100 times better than anything else available today. In fact when Microsoft announces a future product any competitor might as well consider it here today.

    You can be sure any company in the "home entertainment nexus" business, and there are many, who sees that Microsoft is going to enter it some time in the future is going to get out of the business soon enough. The fact that we've seen nothing but XBox news for most of 2001 even though the XBox was never sold and probably never will be is immaterial. What matters is the perception.

    Just as Microsoft might as well have sold millions of XBoxes in 2001. Microsoft might as well have sold millions of HomeStations in 2001 too.

  36. yes, flamebait by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 1
    Actually, the point of the joke was that they're announcing version 2 of a product whose version 1 hasn't even been released yet. So, the original moderator was right on saying that it was flamebait.

    Now, the REAL question is whether or not THIS post will get modded +1 Informative.

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    1. Re:yes, flamebait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the point of this response, is that all of you are f@#$king morons. Microsoft hasn't announced jack $#!+.

      I bet you believe everything you see in the super market tabloids as well.

  37. Re:Xbox III?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not every version of DirectX was made publically available.

  38. Clarify please? by aka-ed · · Score: 1

    Michael, what does this story duplicate?

    And, since I posted this Saturday afternoon, what's this about early am Sunday?

    Don't be messing with my karma!

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    1. Re:Clarify please? by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Sorry, Michael - never mind about the duplication; Troed's link educated me...I wish search worked better.

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  39. Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know if everyone just doesn't have the eyes for it or what, but the picture in the article is a 3d rendered model :>

  40. Content on Demand = No HD by Vegan+Pagan · · Score: 2

    MS can't profit from broadband content-on-demand as long as end users have hard drives, because hard drives allow for piracy. To stop piracy, MS has to stop HDs.

    The ideal entertainment center (from MS's point of view) is broadband plus a smart card reader, game controller, DV camera, microphone, speakers and monitor. With that set up, not only do consumers get content on demand by payment on request, but they also get videophones that double as a spying device! Otherwise, customers have privacy and piracy, which they don't want us to have.

    So, as long as MS is using broadband and hard drive in the same sentence, they're not that serious about becoming entertainment leaders.

  41. Re:Preach the GPL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    free kiddie porn? -jr'axis

  42. vaporware by stripey357 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like BS to make people support the X-box so we can then reap the benefits of this "amazing" next product.

  43. Morons by NeoMage · · Score: 1

    You people will believe anything you read.

  44. Sony's gona sue for sure...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PlaySTATION... HomeSTATION... I smell legal action! :-)

  45. Got 'em. by Kappelmeister · · Score: 1

    Thanks.

  46. if i run .... by esper_child · · Score: 1

    If i run X windows on this will it really be an X-box :)

  47. But is it real..? by Sentry23 · · Score: 0

    Having asked a question about homestation on the MS xbox group, there came an answer from a sender with an IP from within microsoft saying:
    'don't believe everything you read'

    The real question is ofcourse now 'written by who?'

    PC Format has a lot to gain with enormous exposure, but MS has even more to lose if it already shows the 'next step after Xbox' and consumers wait with buying an XBox.

    Should microsoft stay silent on it though (officially that is), i think its time to take the article serious, and have another look at the options.

    Leon

  48. Sick Of M$ B$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this product takes over I am leaving the industry.

  49. Re:MCDONALDSOFT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you could get your own cows and garlic, but then you have to rely on the sun for energy, god you guys are lazy, that poor sun, having to give power to everyone at the cost of burning itself up in a few billion years!

  50. Anit-Homestation Rant part dux by levinas · · Score: 1
    I'll post this rant again in case you didnt catch it first time around,

    Personally I am really, really, really sick of this whole "computer as a componiant philosophy". Computers will always be distinct from entertainment systems. This is just another technology that noone asked for like HDTV, WAP and Webterminals. The only people who dig shit like this are marketing exec's who fantasise about total market penatration and hardware geeks who what to put linux on it. Not to dis M$ but they seem to be falling into this trap hook, line and sinker with the xbox and now this home station. This thing is never going to float

    Amiga tryed this same idea years ago with the cdtv and it was a complete flop and since then it has been shown over and over again that the market does not what to pay more then $199 for a console with the failure of the 3do etc etc

    Feature creep and hardware bloat are all right if your are a monopolistic software company only interested in crushing any possible competition before they can even gain ground but they are not the things that you what to see in a console. Consoles are simple single use item's that my grandmother could use, who the hell is going to do ten different thing's from it just cause all the games aint worth playing.

    Clearly, at some stage the point of computers got perverted.

    The whole point of computer's are not to provide a mean's to access MSN or AOL but that of simple personal empowerment. PC's where created becasue some guy/girl got sick and tired of having to rent time on the local college mainframe. Computers are used for writing reports, compiling program's, touching up photo's and, recentlly, editing home movies. Could someone please tell M$ that cause they dont seem to have a clue if they continue to come up with crap like this IMHO.

  51. Xbox2??? by phoenix71 · · Score: 1

    The speculation on the M$Box2, the GameCube (a crap-bucket if I ever saw one) whatever Sony's working on next, and the disappointment (IMHO) of the GBA... makes me glad I can still pick up a TurboGrafx 16 or a SNES for $20 and games for next to nothing.

    Metroid and Pole Position II will live forever-- or at least longer than Pokemon.

  52. little update from MS by Sentry23 · · Score: 0

    which said:

    'any non-announced project from Microsoft is just that.
    many things get looked at, few get chosen.
    take any "behind-the-scenes" news like this - take it with a grain of salt -
    as until it becomes an announced project its all speculation.'

    Which sort of confirms they are working on it, though nothing is definate.
    Make of it what you want, but its definatly not 'just games' MS is after.

    Leon
    -no brain, no pain